"merryb" > wrote in message
...
> And was looking for opinions from others who have. This will be on the
> Royal Princess in early January for 7 days with my Mom & sis. I thought
> George L and Becca? might have some valuable info as to stuff to see/
> shop/eat in ports that are off the tourist trail. Any other tips would be
> greatly appreciated too- this all happened over the weekend!

Whatever you do, enjoy))


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"Ophelia" > wrote in
:

> "merryb" > wrote in message
> ...
>> And was looking for opinions from others who have. This will be on
>> the Royal Princess in early January for 7 days with my Mom & sis. I
>> thought George L and Becca? might have some valuable info as to stuff
>> to see/ shop/eat in ports that are off the tourist trail. Any other
>> tips would be greatly appreciated too- this all happened over the
>> weekend!
>
> Whatever you do, enjoy))
>
>

Even a bit more OT, but I recently (July of this year) took my first
Viking River Cruise. It definitely won't be my last. Eight days of
lesiurely cruising up the Rhone River in the south of France, no wasted
days cruising with no land in sight like on the ocean cruises, a free
included tour each day and affordable optional tours, good food, and wine
and beer included with lunch and dinner.

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 04:03:48 -0600, Alan Holbrook >
wrote:


>
>Even a bit more OT, but I recently (July of this year) took my first
>Viking River Cruise. It definitely won't be my last. Eight days of
>lesiurely cruising up the Rhone River in the south of France, no wasted
>days cruising with no land in sight like on the ocean cruises, a free
>included tour each day and affordable optional tours, good food, and wine
>and beer included with lunch and dinner.

I have no desire to take an ocean cruise, but the Viking River Cruise
does look interesting. No crowds of 5000 people going ashore at the
same time either.

On 11/19/2013 5:03 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:

> Even a bit more OT, but I recently (July of this year) took my first
> Viking River Cruise. It definitely won't be my last. Eight days of
> lesiurely cruising up the Rhone River in the south of France, no wasted
> days cruising with no land in sight like on the ocean cruises, a free
> included tour each day and affordable optional tours, good food, and wine
> and beer included with lunch and dinner.

The ads give me the impression that all the passengers hang out in
a large room or two, is that how it is?

nancy

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 08:22:33 -0500, Nancy Young
> wrote:

>On 11/19/2013 5:03 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:
>
>> Even a bit more OT, but I recently (July of this year) took my first
>> Viking River Cruise. It definitely won't be my last. Eight days of
>> lesiurely cruising up the Rhone River in the south of France, no wasted
>> days cruising with no land in sight like on the ocean cruises, a free
>> included tour each day and affordable optional tours, good food, and wine
>> and beer included with lunch and dinner.
>
>The ads give me the impression that all the passengers hang out in
>a large room or two, is that how it is?

Those river boats are small but you don't spend a lot of time on them.
The boats take you to various towns along the river where you tour the
town and dine/sleep at some land accomodation. The river boats are
essentially a water taxi, far from luxurious.

In article >, gravesend10
@verizon.net says...
>
> On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 08:22:33 -0500, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
>
> >On 11/19/2013 5:03 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:
> >
> >> Even a bit more OT, but I recently (July of this year) took my first
> >> Viking River Cruise. It definitely won't be my last. Eight days of
> >> lesiurely cruising up the Rhone River in the south of France, no wasted
> >> days cruising with no land in sight like on the ocean cruises, a free
> >> included tour each day and affordable optional tours, good food, and wine
> >> and beer included with lunch and dinner.
> >
> >The ads give me the impression that all the passengers hang out in
> >a large room or two, is that how it is?
>
> Those river boats are small but you don't spend a lot of time on them.
> The boats take you to various towns along the river where you tour the
> town and dine/sleep at some land accomodation. The river boats are
> essentially a water taxi, far from luxurious.

You do talk some rubbish

http://www.globalrivercruising.co.uk...s-of-southern-
france-itinerary-prices-dates.html

Janet UK

On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:49:28 PM UTC-8, Janet wrote:
> In article >, gravesend10
>
> @verizon.net says...
>
> >
>
> > On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 08:22:33 -0500, Nancy Young
>
> > > wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >On 11/19/2013 5:03 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > >> Even a bit more OT, but I recently (July of this year) took my first
>
> > >> Viking River Cruise. It definitely won't be my last. Eight days of
>
> > >> lesiurely cruising up the Rhone River in the south of France, no wasted
>
> > >> days cruising with no land in sight like on the ocean cruises, a free
>
> > >> included tour each day and affordable optional tours, good food, and wine
>
> > >> and beer included with lunch and dinner.
>
> > >
>
> > >The ads give me the impression that all the passengers hang out in
>
> > >a large room or two, is that how it is?
>
> >
>
> > Those river boats are small but you don't spend a lot of time on them.
>
> > The boats take you to various towns along the river where you tour the
>
> > town and dine/sleep at some land accomodation. The river boats are
>
> > essentially a water taxi, far from luxurious.
>
>
>
> You do talk some rubbish
>
>
>
> http://www.globalrivercruising.co.uk...s-of-southern-
>
> france-itinerary-prices-dates.html
>
>
>
> Janet UK

I remember seeing a show about river cruising- I think it was in England. Not a river by ones I am used to seeing- these are what I would call a wide creek. They went through little locks, and stopped at little B & Bs along the way. It looked absolutely lovely!

On 11/19/2013 3:16 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 08:22:33 -0500, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
>
>> On 11/19/2013 5:03 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:
>>
>>> Even a bit more OT, but I recently (July of this year) took my first
>>> Viking River Cruise. It definitely won't be my last. Eight days of
>>> lesiurely cruising up the Rhone River in the south of France, no wasted
>>> days cruising with no land in sight like on the ocean cruises, a free
>>> included tour each day and affordable optional tours, good food, and wine
>>> and beer included with lunch and dinner.
>>
>> The ads give me the impression that all the passengers hang out in
>> a large room or two, is that how it is?
>
> Those river boats are small but you don't spend a lot of time on them.
> The boats take you to various towns along the river where you tour the
> town and dine/sleep at some land accomodation. The river boats are
> essentially a water taxi, far from luxurious.
>


The ones I've been on are quite luxurious. They had well-appointed
staterooms with private bathrooms and lovely amenities. We are looking
at the possibility of one in Myanmar in 2015.

Sheldon, you really should refrain from posting about things you know
nothing about.

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On 11/19/2013 4:54 PM, merryb wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:49:28 PM UTC-8, Janet wrote:
>> In article >, gravesend10
>>
>> @verizon.net says...
>>
>>>
>>
>>> On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 08:22:33 -0500, Nancy Young
>>
>>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>>> On 11/19/2013 5:03 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>> Even a bit more OT, but I recently (July of this year) took my first
>>
>>>>> Viking River Cruise. It definitely won't be my last. Eight days of
>>
>>>>> lesiurely cruising up the Rhone River in the south of France, no wasted
>>
>>>>> days cruising with no land in sight like on the ocean cruises, a free
>>
>>>>> included tour each day and affordable optional tours, good food, and wine
>>
>>>>> and beer included with lunch and dinner.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> The ads give me the impression that all the passengers hang out in
>>
>>>> a large room or two, is that how it is?
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Those river boats are small but you don't spend a lot of time on them.
>>
>>> The boats take you to various towns along the river where you tour the
>>
>>> town and dine/sleep at some land accomodation. The river boats are
>>
>>> essentially a water taxi, far from luxurious.
>>
>>
>>
>> You do talk some rubbish
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.globalrivercruising.co.uk...s-of-southern-
>>
>> france-itinerary-prices-dates.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Janet UK
>
> I remember seeing a show about river cruising- I think it was in England. Not a river by ones I am used to seeing- these are what I would call a wide creek. They went through little locks, and stopped at little B & Bs along the way. It looked absolutely lovely!
>

I've been on two river cruises. The first one was from Budapest to
Amsterdam on the Danube, Main and Rhine. The boat was lovely, the food
was marvelous and the included and optional tours were fabulous. The
river boats are small with around 100 guests aboard. They are very
intimate. I met the chef one night in the lounge and we did karaoke
together. Then he gave me a personal tour of the galley. It was amazing
how much could be done in such a small space.

The second one we did was from Moscow to St. Petersburg on the Volga and
it's tributaries.

On both cruises we got to see so much countryside as well as small towns
and insights into the lives and customs of the local folks.

River cruising is expensive (we tend towards the higher-end companies
with better cabins and dry baths) but the places you see, the amount of
free time available for exploring on your own and being able to get up
close and personal with the country is worth it.

I'd love to do one in the South of France, one in Portugal (Duro River)
and this new one in Myanmar looks spectacular. I have to wait until
Thursday before making any long-range plans as that is when I get the
results of my PET scan.

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On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:18:43 -0600, Janet Wilder
> wrote:

> On 11/19/2013 4:54 PM, merryb wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:49:28 PM UTC-8, Janet wrote:
> >> In article >, gravesend10
> >>
> >> @verizon.net says...
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >>> On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 08:22:33 -0500, Nancy Young
> >>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >>>> On 11/19/2013 5:03 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:
> >>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>>>> Even a bit more OT, but I recently (July of this year) took my first
> >>
> >>>>> Viking River Cruise. It definitely won't be my last. Eight days of
> >>
> >>>>> lesiurely cruising up the Rhone River in the south of France, no wasted
> >>
> >>>>> days cruising with no land in sight like on the ocean cruises, a free
> >>
> >>>>> included tour each day and affordable optional tours, good food, and wine
> >>
> >>>>> and beer included with lunch and dinner.
> >>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>>> The ads give me the impression that all the passengers hang out in
> >>
> >>>> a large room or two, is that how it is?
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >>> Those river boats are small but you don't spend a lot of time on them.
> >>
> >>> The boats take you to various towns along the river where you tour the
> >>
> >>> town and dine/sleep at some land accomodation. The river boats are
> >>
> >>> essentially a water taxi, far from luxurious.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> You do talk some rubbish
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.globalrivercruising.co.uk...s-of-southern-
> >>
> >> france-itinerary-prices-dates.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Janet UK
> >
> > I remember seeing a show about river cruising- I think it was in England. Not a river by ones I am used to seeing- these are what I would call a wide creek. They went through little locks, and stopped at little B & Bs along the way. It looked absolutely lovely!
> >
>
> I've been on two river cruises. The first one was from Budapest to
> Amsterdam on the Danube, Main and Rhine. The boat was lovely, the food
> was marvelous and the included and optional tours were fabulous. The
> river boats are small with around 100 guests aboard. They are very
> intimate. I met the chef one night in the lounge and we did karaoke
> together. Then he gave me a personal tour of the galley. It was amazing
> how much could be done in such a small space.
>
> The second one we did was from Moscow to St. Petersburg on the Volga and
> it's tributaries.
>
> On both cruises we got to see so much countryside as well as small towns
> and insights into the lives and customs of the local folks.
>
> River cruising is expensive (we tend towards the higher-end companies
> with better cabins and dry baths) but the places you see, the amount of
> free time available for exploring on your own and being able to get up
> close and personal with the country is worth it.
>
> I'd love to do one in the South of France, one in Portugal (Duro River)
> and this new one in Myanmar looks spectacular. I have to wait until
> Thursday before making any long-range plans as that is when I get the
> results of my PET scan.

You are my cruise muse, Janet! We did your Budapest - Amsterdam trip
in the other direction and thoroughly enjoyed it (on Viking). I think
the only thing you missed was the way they introduction their guest to
Budapest... it's done when the city and bridge lighting is on, with
period music in the background and occasional narration about points
of interest easily viewed from the ship.

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"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
eb.com...

> Sheldon, you really should refrain from posting about things you know
> nothing about.

But then he wouldn't post at all unless he had some animal pic to show us.

Ed Pawlowski > wrote in
:

> On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 04:03:48 -0600, Alan Holbrook >
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Even a bit more OT, but I recently (July of this year) took my first
>>Viking River Cruise. It definitely won't be my last. Eight days of
>>lesiurely cruising up the Rhone River in the south of France, no
>>wasted days cruising with no land in sight like on the ocean cruises,
>>a free included tour each day and affordable optional tours, good
>>food, and wine and beer included with lunch and dinner.
>
> I have no desire to take an ocean cruise, but the Viking River Cruise
> does look interesting. No crowds of 5000 people going ashore at the
> same time either.
>

The ship I was on carried 150 passengers. In 8 days, I managed to get to
know most of them.

Nancy Young > wrote in
:

> On 11/19/2013 5:03 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:
>
>> Even a bit more OT, but I recently (July of this year) took my first
>> Viking River Cruise. It definitely won't be my last. Eight days of
>> lesiurely cruising up the Rhone River in the south of France, no
>> wasted days cruising with no land in sight like on the ocean cruises,
>> a free included tour each day and affordable optional tours, good
>> food, and wine and beer included with lunch and dinner.
>
> The ads give me the impression that all the passengers hang out in
> a large room or two, is that how it is?
>
> nancy
>

Sort of. On the one I was on, there was a passenger lounge with bar and
comfortable seating, and an on-deck area with chairs, tables, and
umbrellas. The reason I said "sort of" is that you don't do all that much
hanging out because you have so much shore time available.

If you're the "chill-out on deckchairs and work on your tan" kind of
cruiser, stick with ocean cruising. If you're the touring type, river
cruises are for you.

In article >,
says...
> > > Those river boats are small but you don't spend a lot of time on them.
> >
> > > The boats take you to various towns along the river where you tour the
> >
> > > town and dine/sleep at some land accomodation. The river boats are
> >
> > > essentially a water taxi, far from luxurious.
> >
> >
> >
> > You do talk some rubbish
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.globalrivercruising.co.uk...s-of-southern-
> >
> > france-itinerary-prices-dates.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Janet UK
>
> I remember seeing a show about river cruising- I think it was in England.

Not a river by ones I am used to seeing- these are what I would call a wide creek. They went through little locks,

Those "little creeks with locks" are not tivers, they are manmade
canals dug over dry land as transport links, between rivers, or
landlocked cities. The locks are gates to control the water levels (to
move boats between different levels when the canals were built on land
that's not flat). Locks were invented by Leonardo da Vinci.

how locks work

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiMsYzL1ziU

the barges were often towed by horses walking on a towpath beside the
canal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canals_...History_of_com
mercial_carrying


Janet UK

Brooklyn1 > wrote in
:

> On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 08:22:33 -0500, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
>
>>On 11/19/2013 5:03 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:
>>
>>> Even a bit more OT, but I recently (July of this year) took my first
>>> Viking River Cruise. It definitely won't be my last. Eight days of
>>> lesiurely cruising up the Rhone River in the south of France, no
>>> wasted days cruising with no land in sight like on the ocean
>>> cruises, a free included tour each day and affordable optional
>>> tours, good food, and wine and beer included with lunch and dinner.
>>
>>The ads give me the impression that all the passengers hang out in
>>a large room or two, is that how it is?
>
> Those river boats are small but you don't spend a lot of time on them.
> The boats take you to various towns along the river where you tour the
> town and dine/sleep at some land accomodation. The river boats are
> essentially a water taxi, far from luxurious.
>

Not on Viking. You sleep on board.

"Sheldon, you really should refrain from posting about things you know
nothing about."

Best of luck, there. You just pinned his favorite subject. Ask him about the proper storage of mustard and how it ages. Another classic where he was 180 from truth.

On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 03:38:18 -0600, Alan Holbrook >
wrote:

> Ed Pawlowski > wrote in
> :
>
> > On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 04:03:48 -0600, Alan Holbrook >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >>Even a bit more OT, but I recently (July of this year) took my first
> >>Viking River Cruise. It definitely won't be my last. Eight days of
> >>lesiurely cruising up the Rhone River in the south of France, no
> >>wasted days cruising with no land in sight like on the ocean cruises,
> >>a free included tour each day and affordable optional tours, good
> >>food, and wine and beer included with lunch and dinner.
> >
> > I have no desire to take an ocean cruise, but the Viking River Cruise
> > does look interesting. No crowds of 5000 people going ashore at the
> > same time either.
> >
>
> The ship I was on carried 150 passengers. In 8 days, I managed to get to
> know most of them.

Hubby calculated that if we sat with different people at every meal,
we would have had a conversation with all the passengers by the time
we disembarked (under 200 people, longer cruise). I happen to love
sea days and want to take a trans Atlantic cruise for that very
reason, but that's me.

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On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:18:43 PM UTC-5, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 11/19/2013 4:54 PM, merryb wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:49:28 PM UTC-8, Janet wrote:
>
> >> In article >, gravesend10
>
> >>
>
> >> @verizon.net says...
>
> >>
>
> >>>
>
> >>
>
> >>> On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 08:22:33 -0500, Nancy Young
>
> >>
>
> >>> > wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>>
>
> >>
>
> >>>> On 11/19/2013 5:03 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>>>
>
> >>
>
> >>>>> Even a bit more OT, but I recently (July of this year) took my first
>
> >>
>
> >>>>> Viking River Cruise. It definitely won't be my last. Eight days of
>
> >>
>
> >>>>> lesiurely cruising up the Rhone River in the south of France, no wasted
>
> >>
>
> >>>>> days cruising with no land in sight like on the ocean cruises, a free
>
> >>
>
> >>>>> included tour each day and affordable optional tours, good food, and wine
>
> >>
>
> >>>>> and beer included with lunch and dinner.
>
> >>
>
> >>>>
>
> >>
>
> >>>> The ads give me the impression that all the passengers hang out in
>
> >>
>
> >>>> a large room or two, is that how it is?
>
> >>
>
> >>>
>
> >>
>
> >>> Those river boats are small but you don't spend a lot of time on them..
>
> >>
>
> >>> The boats take you to various towns along the river where you tour the
>
> >>
>
> >>> town and dine/sleep at some land accomodation. The river boats are
>
> >>
>
> >>> essentially a water taxi, far from luxurious.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> You do talk some rubbish
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> http://www.globalrivercruising.co.uk...s-of-southern-
>
> >>
>
> >> france-itinerary-prices-dates.html
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> Janet UK
>
> >
>
> > I remember seeing a show about river cruising- I think it was in England. Not a river by ones I am used to seeing- these are what I would call a wide creek. They went through little locks, and stopped at little B & Bs along the way. It looked absolutely lovely!
>
> >
>
>
>
> I've been on two river cruises. The first one was from Budapest to
>
> Amsterdam on the Danube, Main and Rhine. The boat was lovely, the food
>
> was marvelous and the included and optional tours were fabulous. The
>
> river boats are small with around 100 guests aboard. They are very
>
> intimate. I met the chef one night in the lounge and we did karaoke
>
> together. Then he gave me a personal tour of the galley. It was amazing
>
> how much could be done in such a small space.
>
>
>
> The second one we did was from Moscow to St. Petersburg on the Volga and
>
> it's tributaries.
>
>
>
> On both cruises we got to see so much countryside as well as small towns
>
> and insights into the lives and customs of the local folks.
>
>
>
> River cruising is expensive (we tend towards the higher-end companies
>
> with better cabins and dry baths) but the places you see, the amount of
>
> free time available for exploring on your own and being able to get up
>
> close and personal with the country is worth it.
>
>
>
> I'd love to do one in the South of France, one in Portugal (Duro River)
>
> and this new one in Myanmar looks spectacular. I have to wait until
>
> Thursday before making any long-range plans as that is when I get the
>
> results of my PET scan.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Janet Wilder
>
> Way-the-heck-south Texas
>
> Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.
>
>
>
> ---
>
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>
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A friend just returned from a cruise similar to yours. St Pete, Riga, you name it. Only thing she hated was the flight to Amsterdam from the states and DID get sick on the North Sea. But, raved about the itin, the food, the service, the accommodations. She went early October.

On 11/20/2013 4:43 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:
> Nancy Young > wrote

>> On 11/19/2013 5:03 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:
>>
>>> Even a bit more OT, but I recently (July of this year) took my first
>>> Viking River Cruise.

>> The ads give me the impression that all the passengers hang out in
>> a large room or two, is that how it is?

> Sort of. On the one I was on, there was a passenger lounge with bar and
> comfortable seating, and an on-deck area with chairs, tables, and
> umbrellas. The reason I said "sort of" is that you don't do all that much
> hanging out because you have so much shore time available.
>
> If you're the "chill-out on deckchairs and work on your tan" kind of
> cruiser, stick with ocean cruising. If you're the touring type, river
> cruises are for you.

I'm a third type. Tanning, to me, that makes attending a status
meeting sound interesting. Still, hanging out on a boat watching
the water go by, I love that. I am just too cheap and lazy to own
a boat myself. I also enjoy sightseeing, so I would love a river
cruise in that way.

Not really into mingling, though, and it would be a tough sell to
my better half, so who knows. But I'd like to go.

nancy

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:54:17 -0800 (PST), merryb >
wrote:

>On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:49:28 PM UTC-8, Janet wrote:
>> In article >, gravesend10
>>
>> @verizon.net says...
>>
>> >
>>
>> > On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 08:22:33 -0500, Nancy Young
>>
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> > >On 11/19/2013 5:03 AM, Alan Holbrook wrote:
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >> Even a bit more OT, but I recently (July of this year) took my first
>>
>> > >> Viking River Cruise. It definitely won't be my last. Eight days of
>>
>> > >> lesiurely cruising up the Rhone River in the south of France, no wasted
>>
>> > >> days cruising with no land in sight like on the ocean cruises, a free
>>
>> > >> included tour each day and affordable optional tours, good food, and wine
>>
>> > >> and beer included with lunch and dinner.
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >The ads give me the impression that all the passengers hang out in
>>
>> > >a large room or two, is that how it is?
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Those river boats are small but you don't spend a lot of time on them.
>>
>> > The boats take you to various towns along the river where you tour the
>>
>> > town and dine/sleep at some land accomodation. The river boats are
>>
>> > essentially a water taxi, far from luxurious.
>>
>>
>>
>> You do talk some rubbish
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.globalrivercruising.co.uk...s-of-southern-
>>
>> france-itinerary-prices-dates.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Janet UK
>
>I remember seeing a show about river cruising- I think it was in England. Not a river by ones I am used to seeing- these are what I would call a wide creek. They went through little locks, and stopped at little B & Bs along the way. It looked absolutely lovely!

Fine if what one prefers but still those boats are little more than a
small ferry... they call it a river cruise but one can do just as well
if not better traveling by bicycle, as most Euro rivers don't smell
any too sweet.
http://www.trektravel.com/region/eur...FRQaOgodnDYAIQ
A river cruise is really a way to tour for the old and/or infirm...
it's like touring the US National Parks by Greyhound bus.

Nancy Young wrote:
>
>I'm a third type. Tanning, to me, that makes attending a status
>meeting sound interesting. Still, hanging out on a boat watching
>the water go by, I love that. I am just too cheap and lazy to own
>a boat myself. I also enjoy sightseeing, so I would love a river
>cruise in that way.
>
>Not really into mingling, though, and it would be a tough sell to
>my better half, so who knows. But I'd like to go.

No need to fly to the other side of the planet when there are far
better river cruises in the US, and I've been on several, in Canada
too. I've no need to jet set just so I can play the snob.
I've cruised the Hudson four times, wonderful... and it's a short
drive for me.
http://www.americancruiselines.com/f...-river-cruises
Many of my neighbors have their own cruising boats moored on the
HUdson half the year, during winter they trailer it home... my
neighbor across the road has a 40 foot double pontoon sailboat that
I'm invited on all the time.
I've cruised the Mississipi, the River Rouge, St Lawrence, Great
Lakes, Lake Tahoe, and several day cruises on the Lung Guyland Sound
that were superb... The Staten Island ferry is better than any
fercocktah filthy smelly river Euro cruise.
Nancy, I'm sure there are wonderful cruises not far from your front
door.

On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 5:54:17 PM UTC-5, merryb wrote:
>
> I remember seeing a show about river cruising- I think it was in England. Not a river by ones I am used to seeing- these are what I would call a wide creek. They went through little locks, and stopped at little B & Bs along the way. It looked absolutely lovely!

It is idyllic, of course depending on the
weather. I've cruised both the upper
Thames and the Avon. We slept on the boat,
made our our breakfast and chugged along to
a pub for lunch. This was our main meal as
lunch is much cheaper than dinner. There
were 4 of us on the boat.

I can highly recommend this type of vacation.

http://www.richardfisher.com

On 11/20/2013 1:57 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>> I'm a third type. Tanning, to me, that makes attending a status
>> meeting sound interesting. Still, hanging out on a boat watching
>> the water go by, I love that. I am just too cheap and lazy to own
>> a boat myself. I also enjoy sightseeing, so I would love a river
>> cruise in that way.
>>
>> Not really into mingling, though, and it would be a tough sell to
>> my better half, so who knows. But I'd like to go.
>
> No need to fly to the other side of the planet when there are far
> better river cruises in the US, and I've been on several, in Canada
> too. I've no need to jet set just so I can play the snob.
> I've cruised the Hudson four times, wonderful... and it's a short
> drive for me.
> http://www.americancruiselines.com/f...-river-cruises

I have 'cruised' up the Hudson but only to West Point. Love that.
And I am mad for the Circle Line tour. I really meant to go this
fall. Oh, well.

> Many of my neighbors have their own cruising boats moored on the
> HUdson half the year, during winter they trailer it home... my
> neighbor across the road has a 40 foot double pontoon sailboat that
> I'm invited on all the time.

My bil has a sailboat, as a matter of fact, he started making his
fortune when he invented a sailboat accessory. I guess that's the
word. We never got out to Michigan in the summer to go out on it,
unfortunately.

> I've cruimsed the Mississipi, the River Rouge, St Lawrence, Great
> Lakes, Lake Tahoe, and several day cruises on the Lung Guyland Sound
> that were superb... The Staten Island ferry is better than any
> fercocktah filthy smelly river Euro cruise.
> Nancy, I'm sure there are wonderful cruises not far from your front
> door.

It's true. Thanks.

nancy

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
>>
> Fine if what one prefers but still those boats are little more than a
> small ferry... they call it a river cruise but one can do just as well
> if not better traveling by bicycle, as most Euro rivers don't smell
> any too sweet.
> http://www.trektravel.com/region/eur...FRQaOgodnDYAIQ

My B-I-L and I have just booked our 4th cycling holiday in France at a
considerably cheaper price than those in the link. We've ridden in Provence,
including the Camargue, the Dordogne and Burgundy. Next spring it will be
Bordeaux.
Obviously, we like wine!
Graham

On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:24:17 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
>
> eb.com...
>
>
>
> > Sheldon, you really should refrain from posting about things you know
>
> > nothing about.
>
>
>
> But then he wouldn't post at all unless he had some animal pic to show us.

Maybe someday you'll grace us with something you DO know something about other than junk food BOGOs and cat psychics.

On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:03:57 -0500, Nancy Young
> wrote:

> Not really into mingling, though, and it would be a tough sell to
> my better half, so who knows. But I'd like to go.

Mingling is not mandatory. You know that right?

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 11/20/2013 3:22 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:03:57 -0500, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
>
>> Not really into mingling, though, and it would be a tough sell to
>> my better half, so who knows. But I'd like to go.
>
> Mingling is not mandatory. You know that right?
>
True, but seems like if you're stuck on a boat with 100 people someone
is bound to strike up a conversation.

Jill

On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 15:33:03 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 11/20/2013 3:22 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:03:57 -0500, Nancy Young
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Not really into mingling, though, and it would be a tough sell to
> >> my better half, so who knows. But I'd like to go.
> >
> > Mingling is not mandatory. You know that right?
> >
> True, but seems like if you're stuck on a boat with 100 people someone
> is bound to strike up a conversation.
>

Most, although not all, people on cruises are outgoing, excellent
conversationalists and very pleasant to be around. We've met exactly
one person we couldn't stand (but his wife was lovely). We chose a
large table to sit at for dinner, so we could meet a lot of new people
all at once and he was the only dud in the bunch.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:44:03 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 15:33:03 -0500, jmcquown >
>wrote:
>
>> On 11/20/2013 3:22 PM, sf wrote:
>> > On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:03:57 -0500, Nancy Young
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Not really into mingling, though, and it would be a tough sell to
>> >> my better half, so who knows. But I'd like to go.
>> >
>> > Mingling is not mandatory. You know that right?
>> >
>> True, but seems like if you're stuck on a boat with 100 people someone
>> is bound to strike up a conversation.
>
>Most, although not all, people on cruises are outgoing, excellent
>conversationalists and very pleasant to be around. We've met exactly
>one person we couldn't stand (but his wife was lovely). We chose a
>large table to sit at for dinner, so we could meet a lot of new people
>all at once and he was the only dud in the bunch.

I see no point in meeting a bunch of people on a cruise who you will
never speak to again and they don't want to speak to you
again either... it's like talking to someone at the check out at the
stupidmarket... then you leave and it's adios forever. sf is full of
doodoo... and with all the acres her obeastie ass occupies it's a LOT
of doodoo.

On 11/20/2013 5:52 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:44:03 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 15:33:03 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/20/2013 3:22 PM, sf wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:03:57 -0500, Nancy Young
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not really into mingling, though, and it would be a tough sell to
>>>>> my better half, so who knows. But I'd like to go.
>>>>
>>>> Mingling is not mandatory. You know that right?
>>>>
>>> True, but seems like if you're stuck on a boat with 100 people someone
>>> is bound to strike up a conversation.
>>
>> Most, although not all, people on cruises are outgoing, excellent
>> conversationalists and very pleasant to be around. We've met exactly
>> one person we couldn't stand (but his wife was lovely). We chose a
>> large table to sit at for dinner, so we could meet a lot of new people
>> all at once and he was the only dud in the bunch.
>
> I see no point in meeting a bunch of people on a cruise who you will
> never speak to again and they don't want to speak to you
> again either... it's like talking to someone at the check out at the
> stupidmarket... then you leave and it's adios forever.

That's an odd comparison. One can always leave the store at the
supermarket without having a long conversation. You also don't have to
answer if someone asks you a question if the encounter you in an isle.
That's not "mingling". It's being cordial.

Jill

On 11/20/2013 4:52 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:44:03 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 15:33:03 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/20/2013 3:22 PM, sf wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:03:57 -0500, Nancy Young
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not really into mingling, though, and it would be a tough sell to
>>>>> my better half, so who knows. But I'd like to go.
>>>>
>>>> Mingling is not mandatory. You know that right?
>>>>
>>> True, but seems like if you're stuck on a boat with 100 people someone
>>> is bound to strike up a conversation.
>>
>> Most, although not all, people on cruises are outgoing, excellent
>> conversationalists and very pleasant to be around. We've met exactly
>> one person we couldn't stand (but his wife was lovely). We chose a
>> large table to sit at for dinner, so we could meet a lot of new people
>> all at once and he was the only dud in the bunch.
>
> I see no point in meeting a bunch of people on a cruise who you will
> never speak to again and they don't want to speak to you
> again either... it's like talking to someone at the check out at the
> stupidmarket... then you leave and it's adios forever. sf is full of
> doodoo... and with all the acres her obeastie ass occupies it's a LOT
> of doodoo.
>
That's the difference between you and civilized people. We've met
people on cruises that have become dear and close friends and we are in
contact with them well after the cruises were over.

Once again, you enlighten us with your lack of knowledge.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

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On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:15:33 PM UTC-8, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 11/20/2013 4:52 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:44:03 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 15:33:03 -0500, jmcquown >
>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>> On 11/20/2013 3:22 PM, sf wrote:
>
> >>>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:03:57 -0500, Nancy Young
>
> >>>> > wrote:
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>>> Not really into mingling, though, and it would be a tough sell to
>
> >>>>> my better half, so who knows. But I'd like to go.
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> Mingling is not mandatory. You know that right?
>
> >>>>
>
> >>> True, but seems like if you're stuck on a boat with 100 people someone
>
> >>> is bound to strike up a conversation.
>
> >>
>
> >> Most, although not all, people on cruises are outgoing, excellent
>
> >> conversationalists and very pleasant to be around. We've met exactly
>
> >> one person we couldn't stand (but his wife was lovely). We chose a
>
> >> large table to sit at for dinner, so we could meet a lot of new people
>
> >> all at once and he was the only dud in the bunch.
>
> >
>
> > I see no point in meeting a bunch of people on a cruise who you will
>
> > never speak to again and they don't want to speak to you
>
> > again either... it's like talking to someone at the check out at the
>
> > stupidmarket... then you leave and it's adios forever. sf is full of
>
> > doodoo... and with all the acres her obeastie ass occupies it's a LOT
>
> > of doodoo.
>
> >
>
> That's the difference between you and civilized people. We've met
>
> people on cruises that have become dear and close friends and we are in
>
> contact with them well after the cruises were over.
>
>
>
> Once again, you enlighten us with your lack of knowledge.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Janet Wilder
>
> Way-the-heck-south Texas
>
> Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.
>
>
>
> ---
>
> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active.
>
> http://www.avast.com

My mom has been on a lot of cruises, and has made good friends. One of them even played violin at her husbands funeral. It is what you make of it...

On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:52:19 PM UTC-8, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:44:03 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 15:33:03 -0500, jmcquown >
>
> >wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> On 11/20/2013 3:22 PM, sf wrote:
>
> >> > On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:03:57 -0500, Nancy Young
>
> >> > > wrote:
>
> >> >
>
> >> >> Not really into mingling, though, and it would be a tough sell to
>
> >> >> my better half, so who knows. But I'd like to go.
>
> >> >
>
> >> > Mingling is not mandatory. You know that right?
>
> >> >
>
> >> True, but seems like if you're stuck on a boat with 100 people someone
>
> >> is bound to strike up a conversation.
>
> >
>
> >Most, although not all, people on cruises are outgoing, excellent
>
> >conversationalists and very pleasant to be around. We've met exactly
>
> >one person we couldn't stand (but his wife was lovely). We chose a
>
> >large table to sit at for dinner, so we could meet a lot of new people
>
> >all at once and he was the only dud in the bunch.
>
>
>
> I see no point in meeting a bunch of people on a cruise who you will
>
> never speak to again and they don't want to speak to you
>
> again either... it's like talking to someone at the check out at the
>
> stupidmarket... then you leave and it's adios forever. sf is full of
>
> doodoo... and with all the acres her obeastie ass occupies it's a LOT
>
> of doodoo.

Why not? You never know, and life is too short! You might meet a single cat loving gal who is well endowed below and lighter on top :P

On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:02:26 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 11/20/2013 5:52 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:44:03 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 15:33:03 -0500, jmcquown >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 11/20/2013 3:22 PM, sf wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:03:57 -0500, Nancy Young
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Not really into mingling, though, and it would be a tough sell to
> >>>>> my better half, so who knows. But I'd like to go.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mingling is not mandatory. You know that right?
> >>>>
> >>> True, but seems like if you're stuck on a boat with 100 people someone
> >>> is bound to strike up a conversation.
> >>
> >> Most, although not all, people on cruises are outgoing, excellent
> >> conversationalists and very pleasant to be around. We've met exactly
> >> one person we couldn't stand (but his wife was lovely). We chose a
> >> large table to sit at for dinner, so we could meet a lot of new people
> >> all at once and he was the only dud in the bunch.
> >
> > I see no point in meeting a bunch of people on a cruise who you will
> > never speak to again and they don't want to speak to you
> > again either... it's like talking to someone at the check out at the
> > stupidmarket... then you leave and it's adios forever.
>
> That's an odd comparison. One can always leave the store at the
> supermarket without having a long conversation. You also don't have to
> answer if someone asks you a question if the encounter you in an isle.
> That's not "mingling". It's being cordial.
>
He's either on crack or living in a fantasy land of his own creation.
My grandparents had many longtime friends they became acquainted with
on cruises... and yes, I met them - so, they existed.

Sheldon can say whatever he wants to say about European river cruises,
but it doesn't change the fact that they are wonderful.

In any case, I'm not against cruising American rivers. I want to do
it eventually - but only after I can't stand those long flights over
seas anymore (coming soon, btw).

In the mean time, I want to see more of the world. I NEED to see
Scotland (for reasons of heritage + literary romance) and a river trip
or two in France ultimately, but I really, really, really want to see
those onion domes in St. Petersburg first.... Oh yes, I also want to
do an African safari somewhere in that time frame too. Hubby wants to
do things in South America, but I think what Janet Wilder did is right
up my alley.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Brooklyn1 > wrote in
:

>
> No need to fly to the other side of the planet when there are far
> better river cruises in the US, and I've been on several, in Canada
> too. I've no need to jet set just so I can play the snob.
>

Kind of hard to make a comparison if you haven't experienced both, isn't
it? I'm sure there are very nice river cruises available in the US and
Canada. I'm not sure that everyone would agree they're "far better."

Oh, and by the way, commenting that you don't need to jet set just to play
the snob makes you one...

On 11/21/2013 2:59 AM, sf wrote:

> In the mean time, I want to see more of the world. I NEED to see
> Scotland (for reasons of heritage + literary romance)

There a two or three of us here, who would be glad to provide
suggestions, when you decide to visit Scotland.

"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/21/2013 2:59 AM, sf wrote:
>
>> In the mean time, I want to see more of the world. I NEED to see
>> Scotland (for reasons of heritage + literary romance)
>
> There a two or three of us here, who would be glad to provide suggestions,
> when you decide to visit Scotland.

True and if she is my area, to meet up for a drink or coffee or something)


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On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 15:21:11 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "S Viemeister" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 11/21/2013 2:59 AM, sf wrote:
> >
> >> In the mean time, I want to see more of the world. I NEED to see
> >> Scotland (for reasons of heritage + literary romance)
> >
> > There a two or three of us here, who would be glad to provide suggestions,
> > when you decide to visit Scotland.
>
> True and if she is my area, to meet up for a drink or coffee or something)
>
I can do that.


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On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:42:50 -0500, S Viemeister
> wrote:

> On 11/21/2013 2:59 AM, sf wrote:
>
> > In the mean time, I want to see more of the world. I NEED to see
> > Scotland (for reasons of heritage + literary romance)
>
> There a two or three of us here, who would be glad to provide
> suggestions, when you decide to visit Scotland.

Thanks, it's not in the works yet- but someday.

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 15:21:11 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "S Viemeister" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On 11/21/2013 2:59 AM, sf wrote:
>> >
>> >> In the mean time, I want to see more of the world. I NEED to see
>> >> Scotland (for reasons of heritage + literary romance)
>> >
>> > There a two or three of us here, who would be glad to provide
>> > suggestions,
>> > when you decide to visit Scotland.
>>
>> True and if she is my area, to meet up for a drink or coffee or
>> something)
>>
> I can do that.

Cool)

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