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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
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> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 23:05:02 -0700, sf > wrote:
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>
>>>
>>> Better yet is cremation and scatter the ashes. I've never been one to
>>> visit graves so that way my kids won't feel guilty for not visiting my
>>> grave either.

>>
>>At least you know where they are planted when they're buried. Neither
>>set of my grandparents went the funeral route (they could well afford
>>it, but opted out). One set of grandparents went for cremation and
>>scattering - the other set got planted after cremation. I prefer
>>planting. It feels right to me as a surviving relative.

>
> I know where my relatives are buried but it is 300 miles from where I
> live. I've never been back to the graves in most cases. I guess it
> depends on how you look at the remains. The person is gone, the
> spirit is gone, all that is left is a decaying body. It has no
> personality. I still have pleasant memories of them but a photograph
> is more inspiration than a grave site.
>
> Whatever works for you though.


That is how I feel too, but to each his/her own.

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On 8/11/2013 12:30 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 23:29:43 -0400, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
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>
>
>> Nowadays lot's of folks opt for composite granite headstones, they
>> cost a lot less than natural granite.

>
> Better yet is cremation and scatter the ashes. I've never been one to
> visit graves so that way my kids won't feel guilty for not visiting my
> grave either.
>

My parents were cremated but the cremains, in urns, were interred at the
National Cemetery. I have no offspring. While I prefer cremation it
really doesn't matter where my ashes wind up. (I suppose I could
specify they be scattered on the front steps of The Club! LOL)

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Nancy Young wrote:
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> On 8/11/2013 12:30 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 23:29:43 -0400, Brooklyn1
> > > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> Nowadays lot's of folks opt for composite granite headstones, they
> >> cost a lot less than natural granite.

> >
> > Better yet is cremation and scatter the ashes. I've never been one to
> > visit graves so that way my kids won't feel guilty for not visiting my
> > grave either.
> >

> I was just saying that the other day. Toss me in the ocean or
> something. I don't visit graves, myself, and I don't want to be
> a source of guilt. If I was to be buried (I won't be), I'd have
> a granite bench as a headstone so any visitors to the area can be
> comfortable.


When I a young lad, visiting my grandparents, I took a trip up into
the woods with my grandfather. He was going to bury one of his beloved
rabbit dogs (a beagle) that had died. We drove way up in the
wilderness, then walked out into the woods for about a mile.

Then he dug a grave, lined it with fresh branches with leaves, put his
doggie in there, covered him with more fresh branches with leaves. He
then said a few words then put in the dirt to cover the grave. Then
he scattered leaves and dirt all around to make the gravesite
disappear. No marker or anything, way out in the deep forest.

That really impacted me and that's what is best to this day. This is
how I buried my 2 ferrets and I only wish I could be buried right
there beside them when my time comes.

I think all these funeral laws are creepy these days. Why do you have
to pay some funeral director to suck out all your soft parts before
burial then pump your body full of preservatives. It's very ghoulist
to me.

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> Oh we want burned and our ashes scattered in our favourite place. Happy
> memories are not in a piece of dirt.


Agreed. My burial of choice would be out in the woods with no marker.
But you can't do that legally. Creamation and buried or scattered in
the woods would be my 2nd choice. I'm not sure that's legal either.
;-o

My 2 ferrets are out in the woods buried together. (I dug up the
first grave to put the second one that died right beside the other
one)....about 1.5 years later. On top of that grave I planted a small
pine tree. That tree is doing well and I can go there occasionally
and talk to the tree as it's growing from their essence. It's my
"ferret tree."

As far as me, you are welcome to throw me into a dumpster once I die.
I'm gone and done with the body...it's only refuse from then on. I
would not care a bit, seriously.

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> My 2 ferrets are out in the woods buried together. (I dug up the
> first grave to put the second one that died right beside the other
> one)....about 1.5 years later. On top of that grave I planted a small
> pine tree. That tree is doing well and I can go there occasionally
> and talk to the tree as it's growing from their essence. It's my
> "ferret tree."


*smile* nice

> As far as me, you are welcome to throw me into a dumpster once I die.
> I'm gone and done with the body...it's only refuse from then on. I
> would not care a bit, seriously.


DH wrote it very nicely in our wills a long time ago and our children know
it very well Our ashes will be scattered together in our favourite place
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On 8/11/2013 11:40 AM, Gary wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:


>> I was just saying that the other day. Toss me in the ocean or
>> something. I don't visit graves, myself, and I don't want to be
>> a source of guilt. If I was to be buried (I won't be), I'd have
>> a granite bench as a headstone so any visitors to the area can be
>> comfortable.

>
> When I a young lad, visiting my grandparents, I took a trip up into
> the woods with my grandfather. He was going to bury one of his beloved
> rabbit dogs (a beagle) that had died. We drove way up in the
> wilderness, then walked out into the woods for about a mile.
>
> Then he dug a grave, lined it with fresh branches with leaves, put his
> doggie in there, covered him with more fresh branches with leaves. He
> then said a few words then put in the dirt to cover the grave. Then
> he scattered leaves and dirt all around to make the gravesite
> disappear. No marker or anything, way out in the deep forest.


I think it's a really nice way to say goodbye to a pet.

> That really impacted me and that's what is best to this day. This is
> how I buried my 2 ferrets and I only wish I could be buried right
> there beside them when my time comes.
>
> I think all these funeral laws are creepy these days. Why do you have
> to pay some funeral director to suck out all your soft parts before
> burial then pump your body full of preservatives. It's very ghoulist
> to me.


Have you heard of natural burial? Maybe you'd be interested. Would
be fine with me, too.

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> My 2 ferrets are out in the woods buried together. (I dug up the
>> first grave to put the second one that died right beside the other
>> one)....about 1.5 years later. On top of that grave I planted a small
>> pine tree. That tree is doing well and I can go there occasionally
>> and talk to the tree as it's growing from their essence. It's my
>> "ferret tree."

>
> *smile* nice
>
>> As far as me, you are welcome to throw me into a dumpster once I die.
>> I'm gone and done with the body...it's only refuse from then on. I
>> would not care a bit, seriously.

>
> DH wrote it very nicely in our wills a long time ago and our children know
> it very well Our ashes will be scattered together in our favourite
> place so we will be together for etenity


It occurs to me, that if you have anyone who could do it for you, since that
is a very special place, you could have your ashes scattered around that
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> On 8/11/2013 11:40 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Nancy Young wrote:

>
>>> I was just saying that the other day. Toss me in the ocean or
>>> something. I don't visit graves, myself, and I don't want to be
>>> a source of guilt. If I was to be buried (I won't be), I'd have
>>> a granite bench as a headstone so any visitors to the area can be
>>> comfortable.

>>
>> When I a young lad, visiting my grandparents, I took a trip up into
>> the woods with my grandfather. He was going to bury one of his beloved
>> rabbit dogs (a beagle) that had died. We drove way up in the
>> wilderness, then walked out into the woods for about a mile.
>>
>> Then he dug a grave, lined it with fresh branches with leaves, put his
>> doggie in there, covered him with more fresh branches with leaves. He
>> then said a few words then put in the dirt to cover the grave. Then
>> he scattered leaves and dirt all around to make the gravesite
>> disappear. No marker or anything, way out in the deep forest.

>
> I think it's a really nice way to say goodbye to a pet.
>
>> That really impacted me and that's what is best to this day. This is
>> how I buried my 2 ferrets and I only wish I could be buried right
>> there beside them when my time comes.
>>
>> I think all these funeral laws are creepy these days. Why do you have
>> to pay some funeral director to suck out all your soft parts before
>> burial then pump your body full of preservatives. It's very ghoulist
>> to me.

>
> Have you heard of natural burial? Maybe you'd be interested. Would
> be fine with me, too.


Explain please, Nancy?

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On 8/11/2013 12:42 PM, Ophelia wrote:
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>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote


>> Have you heard of natural burial? Maybe you'd be interested. Would
>> be fine with me, too.

>
> Explain please, Nancy?


You would be buried in a natural setting like a wildlife sanctuary,
maybe, in a biodegradable coffin. Ashes to ashes, etc.

I see from searching that there are these sites in many places,
including the UK.

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On 8/11/2013 11:40 AM, Gary wrote:
> I think all these funeral laws are creepy these days. Why do you have
> to pay some funeral director to suck out all your soft parts before
> burial then pump your body full of preservatives. It's very ghoulist
> to me.
>
> G.


Sounds like ancient Egypt. Remove the organs and set them in jars.
Uh... yeah, except I don't own a pyramid.

I was more than a tad disturbed to learn they'd cut my father open to
find out if he had a pacemaker. Pacemakers and crematoriums don't work
well together. But hell, they could have just asked.

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> On 8/11/2013 12:42 PM, Ophelia wrote:
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>>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>
>>> Have you heard of natural burial? Maybe you'd be interested. Would
>>> be fine with me, too.

>>
>> Explain please, Nancy?

>
> You would be buried in a natural setting like a wildlife sanctuary,
> maybe, in a biodegradable coffin. Ashes to ashes, etc.
>
> I see from searching that there are these sites in many places,
> including the UK.


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Ophelia wrote:
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> "Nancy Young" wrote:
> > Have you heard of natural burial? Maybe you'd be interested. Would
> > be fine with me, too.

>
> Explain please, Nancy?


I'd like to hear about that too.

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On 8/11/2013 1:28 PM, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "Nancy Young" wrote:
>>> Have you heard of natural burial? Maybe you'd be interested. Would
>>> be fine with me, too.

>>
>> Explain please, Nancy?

>
> I'd like to hear about that too.


You could also search on Green burials.

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On 8/11/2013 1:28 PM, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "Nancy Young" wrote:
>>> Have you heard of natural burial? Maybe you'd be interested. Would
>>> be fine with me, too.

>>
>> Explain please, Nancy?

>
> I'd like to hear about that too.
>
> G.
>

I don't know about what Nancy is referring to. But you could always
donate your body to the "body farm" so scientists can study decomposing
bodies.

http://fac.utk.edu/

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On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:12:40 -0700, Michael Press >
wrote:

>In article >,
> Brooklyn1 > wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 23:57:05 -0700, Michael Press >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article >, Gary > wrote:
>> >
>> >> sf wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Darker granite is supposedly harder (less porous) than lighter colored
>> >> > granite and it certainly isn't like cast iron because the slab is
>> >> > composed of more than one type of rock. If you're banging where a
>> >> > quartz crystal is you might chip it out - but those chips can be
>> >> > repaired/filled with a little resin.
>> >>
>> >> Granite countertops and glasstop stoves are great for show kitchens,
>> >> not for serious cooks.
>> >>
>> >> Just my opinion. I would refuse buying or renting a house that had
>> >> either.
>> >
>> >All my tops are wood; I do not own a cutting board.

>>
>> Makes no sense to use a knife directly on a wooden countertop...

>
>Makes sense to me, so you are wrong.


You're an imbecile... only an imbecile would want to hack up their
countertop regardless of what it's made.


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On 8/11/2013 11:40 AM, Gary wrote:

> I think all these funeral laws are creepy these days. Why do you have
> to pay some funeral director to suck out all your soft parts before
> burial then pump your body full of preservatives. It's very ghoulist
> to me.


Not only that but the funeral directors seem to try to make you feel
guilty if you don't spend a lot on the funeral and casket. They did that
to my mom when my dad died and I was livid. I had to keep telling her to
stick to her budget and that daddy wouldn't want her to spend a lot.

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On 8/11/2013 9:33 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 8/11/2013 11:40 AM, Gary wrote:



> Not only that but the funeral directors seem to try to make you feel
> guilty if you don't spend a lot on the funeral and casket. They did that
> to my mom when my dad died and I was livid. I had to keep telling her to
> stick to her budget and that daddy wouldn't want her to spend a lot.
>


Most are out to make a buck when the family is most vulnerable. When mt
MIL died we used the same FD the family used for years. My wife went to
school with the son now in charge. He made suggestions on how to cut
costs.

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In article >,
Brooklyn1 > wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:12:40 -0700, Michael Press >
> wrote:
>>In article >,
>> Brooklyn1 > wrote:
>>> On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 23:57:05 -0700, Michael Press >
>>> wrote:
>>>>In article >, Gary > wrote:
>>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Darker granite is supposedly harder (less porous) than lighter colored
>>>>>> granite and it certainly isn't like cast iron because the slab is
>>>>>> composed of more than one type of rock. If you're banging where a
>>>>>> quartz crystal is you might chip it out - but those chips can be
>>>>>> repaired/filled with a little resin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Granite countertops and glasstop stoves are great for show kitchens,
>>>>> not for serious cooks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just my opinion. I would refuse buying or renting a house that had
>>>>> either.
>>>>
>>>>All my tops are wood; I do not own a cutting board.
>>>
>>> Makes no sense to use a knife directly on a wooden countertop...

>>
>>Makes sense to me, so you are wrong.

>
> You're an imbecile...


So---you got nothin'. That means, wait for it, you are still rong.

> only an imbecile would want to hack up their
> countertop regardless of what it's made.


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> On 8/11/2013 9:33 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> On 8/11/2013 11:40 AM, Gary wrote:

>
>
>> Not only that but the funeral directors seem to try to make you feel
>> guilty if you don't spend a lot on the funeral and casket. They did that
>> to my mom when my dad died and I was livid. I had to keep telling her to
>> stick to her budget and that daddy wouldn't want her to spend a lot.
>>

>
> Most are out to make a buck when the family is most vulnerable. When mt
> MIL died we used the same FD the family used for years. My wife went to
> school with the son now in charge. He made suggestions on how to cut
> costs.


He was lucky, I bet not many do that! But it is a business after all.

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jmcquown wrote:
> While I prefer cremation it
> really doesn't matter where my ashes wind up. (I suppose I could
> specify they be scattered on the front steps of The Club! LOL)


Perhaps they will use you in a new recipe someday. (entree tonight:
sauteed blah blah blah, lightly dusted with essence of Jill, and
served on a fresh toasted Kaiser roll with coleslaw)

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On 8/11/2013 8:33 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 8/11/2013 11:40 AM, Gary wrote:
>
>> I think all these funeral laws are creepy these days. Why do you have
>> to pay some funeral director to suck out all your soft parts before
>> burial then pump your body full of preservatives. It's very ghoulist
>> to me.

>
> Not only that but the funeral directors seem to try to make you feel
> guilty if you don't spend a lot on the funeral and casket. They did that
> to my mom when my dad died and I was livid. I had to keep telling her to
> stick to her budget and that daddy wouldn't want her to spend a lot.


Cremation has become popular in my family, and that is what I want,
personally. I do not want to be embalmed, just cremate me, have a
memorial service, then drop my ashes off a cruise ship in the Caribbean.

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On 8/11/2013 11:02 AM, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> Oh we want burned and our ashes scattered in our favourite place. Happy
>> memories are not in a piece of dirt.

>
> Agreed. My burial of choice would be out in the woods with no marker.
> But you can't do that legally. Creamation and buried or scattered in
> the woods would be my 2nd choice. I'm not sure that's legal either.
> ;-o
>
> My 2 ferrets are out in the woods buried together. (I dug up the
> first grave to put the second one that died right beside the other
> one)....about 1.5 years later. On top of that grave I planted a small
> pine tree. That tree is doing well and I can go there occasionally
> and talk to the tree as it's growing from their essence. It's my
> "ferret tree."
>
> As far as me, you are welcome to throw me into a dumpster once I die.
> I'm gone and done with the body...it's only refuse from then on. I
> would not care a bit, seriously.


Send Me To Glory In A Glad Bag

People tell me I ought to save my money
So that I could be laid away in style
In a walnut box with all the fancy trimmin'
Vacuum sealed to keep me fresh awhile
But...

Send me to glory in a Glad bag
Don't waste a fancy coffin on my bones
Just put me out on the curb next Tuesday
Let the Sanitation Local bear me home

But maybe I am not bound for glory
But to that other place I would not choose
And if it seems that I'm headed in that direction
Then an oven bag would be the thing to use

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On 8/12/2013 1:58 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:
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> Cremation has become popular in my family, and that is what I want,
> personally. I do not want to be embalmed, just cremate me, have a
> memorial service, then drop my ashes off a cruise ship in the Caribbean.


Other than my ashes dropped off of a cruise ship, that's what I want.
Cremation. They just have to be sure I'm dead first.

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Nancy Young wrote:
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> On 8/13/2013 3:33 AM, Janet wrote:
> > In ye olde days when British naval officers died at sea they were sewn
> > into a bit of old canvas sail with weights to make it sink, and thrown
> > overboard. To make sure they were dead, the last stitch was made through
> > the nose of the corpse.


That's interesting trivia. I knew about the burial in sails but didn't
know that nose part.

>
> I say make it the first stitch.


Whenever my animals have died, I always doubt they're really dead
until they turn stiff. THEN I'll believe it and bury them.

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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 23:29:43 -0400, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>
>
>
>> Nowadays lot's of folks opt for composite granite headstones, they
>> cost a lot less than natural granite.

>
> Better yet is cremation and scatter the ashes. I've never been one to
> visit graves so that way my kids won't feel guilty for not visiting my
> grave either.


I'd like a green burial, so my components feed the flora and
fauna. I would also like my name etc. carved into a rock that is
left at the site. Period. I just hope there are green burials in
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jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/11/2013 12:30 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 23:29:43 -0400, Brooklyn1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Nowadays lot's of folks opt for composite granite headstones, they
>>> cost a lot less than natural granite.

>>
>> Better yet is cremation and scatter the ashes. I've never been one to
>> visit graves so that way my kids won't feel guilty for not visiting my
>> grave either.
>>

> My parents were cremated but the cremains, in urns, were interred at the
> National Cemetery. I have no offspring. While I prefer cremation it
> really doesn't matter where my ashes wind up. (I suppose I could
> specify they be scattered on the front steps of The Club! LOL)
>
> Jill


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Gary wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 8/11/2013 12:30 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 23:29:43 -0400, Brooklyn1
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Nowadays lot's of folks opt for composite granite headstones, they
>>>> cost a lot less than natural granite.
>>> Better yet is cremation and scatter the ashes. I've never been one to
>>> visit graves so that way my kids won't feel guilty for not visiting my
>>> grave either.
>>>

>> I was just saying that the other day. Toss me in the ocean or
>> something. I don't visit graves, myself, and I don't want to be
>> a source of guilt. If I was to be buried (I won't be), I'd have
>> a granite bench as a headstone so any visitors to the area can be
>> comfortable.

>
> When I a young lad, visiting my grandparents, I took a trip up into
> the woods with my grandfather. He was going to bury one of his beloved
> rabbit dogs (a beagle) that had died. We drove way up in the
> wilderness, then walked out into the woods for about a mile.
>
> Then he dug a grave, lined it with fresh branches with leaves, put his
> doggie in there, covered him with more fresh branches with leaves. He
> then said a few words then put in the dirt to cover the grave. Then
> he scattered leaves and dirt all around to make the gravesite
> disappear. No marker or anything, way out in the deep forest.
>
> That really impacted me and that's what is best to this day. This is
> how I buried my 2 ferrets and I only wish I could be buried right
> there beside them when my time comes.
>
> I think all these funeral laws are creepy these days. Why do you have
> to pay some funeral director to suck out all your soft parts before
> burial then pump your body full of preservatives. It's very ghoulist
> to me.
>
> G.


I have come to believe that it is wrong to lock your body away in
some impregnable box.

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Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>> Oh we want burned and our ashes scattered in our favourite place. Happy
>> memories are not in a piece of dirt.

>
> Agreed. My burial of choice would be out in the woods with no marker.
> But you can't do that legally. Creamation and buried or scattered in
> the woods would be my 2nd choice. I'm not sure that's legal either.
> ;-o
>
> My 2 ferrets are out in the woods buried together. (I dug up the
> first grave to put the second one that died right beside the other
> one)....about 1.5 years later. On top of that grave I planted a small
> pine tree. That tree is doing well and I can go there occasionally
> and talk to the tree as it's growing from their essence. It's my
> "ferret tree."
>
> As far as me, you are welcome to throw me into a dumpster once I die.
> I'm gone and done with the body...it's only refuse from then on. I
> would not care a bit, seriously.
>
> G.


Yup. Plant a nice tree on top of me!!!!

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Nancy Young wrote:
> On 8/11/2013 12:42 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>
>>> Have you heard of natural burial? Maybe you'd be interested. Would
>>> be fine with me, too.

>>
>> Explain please, Nancy?

>
> You would be buried in a natural setting like a wildlife sanctuary,
> maybe, in a biodegradable coffin. Ashes to ashes, etc.
>
> I see from searching that there are these sites in many places,
> including the UK.
>
> nancy
>


Perfect. I hope the natural burial movement is expanding. I have
not checked for a while, but there was NOTHING even near
Massachusetts when I did. I want to be part of nature, I want my
body to be subjected to natural processes.

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On 8/15/2013 11:01 PM, Jean B. wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:


>> My parents were cremated but the cremains, in urns, were interred at
>> the National Cemetery. I have no offspring. While I prefer cremation
>> it really doesn't matter where my ashes wind up. (I suppose I could
>> specify they be scattered on the front steps of The Club! LOL)
>>
>> Jill

>
> You will be made into Kaiser rolls.
>

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On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 23:00:25 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 23:29:43 -0400, Brooklyn1
> > > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> Nowadays lot's of folks opt for composite granite headstones, they
> >> cost a lot less than natural granite.

> >
> > Better yet is cremation and scatter the ashes. I've never been one to
> > visit graves so that way my kids won't feel guilty for not visiting my
> > grave either.

>
> I'd like a green burial, so my components feed the flora and
> fauna. I would also like my name etc. carved into a rock that is
> left at the site. Period. I just hope there are green burials in
> Massachusetts when the time comes.


Are you talking about a plain cardboard box?

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"Jean B." wrote:
>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>>> Nowadays lot's of folks opt for composite granite headstones, they
>>> cost a lot less than natural granite.

>>
>> Better yet is cremation and scatter the ashes. I've never been one to
>> visit graves so that way my kids won't feel guilty for not visiting my
>> grave either.

>
>I'd like a green burial, so my components feed the flora and
>fauna. I would also like my name etc. carved into a rock that is
>left at the site. Period. I just hope there are green burials in
>Massachusetts when the time comes.


What's not green about burial in a wooden box and a rock to mark the
spot? Cremation is not green, all that energy wasted to do exactly
what nature will accomplish for free in the ground. My feeling is
that one must be very angry at their family/friends and very
dissatisfied with how they lived their life to opt for cremation and
scattered ashes, by depriving them of the opportunity to visit their
grave in rememberance, respect, and soul cleansing... I've given this
a lot of profound thought... cremation is literally the cowardly way
out, cremation translates to a big **** Yoose All after the fact. I
wouldn't cremate a pet, they deserve a marked grave... I believe that
everyone deserves a marked grave, even a serial killer, so at least
everyone will know where to defecate on their head. Cremation and
scattering ashes is saying one never existed because their life wasn't
worth a shit. I don't visit my parent's grave anymore because it's
too far but I have photographs of their memorial stone, every so often
I spend a moment looking at them as a reminder that they existed. And
just because I don't visit doesn't mean no one else does. On the
property right across the road there's a small family cemetary that
dates back to Revolutionary times, contains maybe 20 head stones,
there are lots of such cemetaries around here. There's a group of
people who clean and maintain these cemetaries, I help pull the weeds
at the one across the road. I very often see people visiting the
plot, probably decendants or people from the historical society,
occasionally I notice that someone planted flowers.


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On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 23:06:38 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

>Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 8/11/2013 12:42 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>>
>>>> Have you heard of natural burial? Maybe you'd be interested. Would
>>>> be fine with me, too.
>>>
>>> Explain please, Nancy?

>>
>> You would be buried in a natural setting like a wildlife sanctuary,
>> maybe, in a biodegradable coffin. Ashes to ashes, etc.
>>
>> I see from searching that there are these sites in many places,
>> including the UK.
>>
>> nancy
>>

>
>Perfect. I hope the natural burial movement is expanding. I have
>not checked for a while, but there was NOTHING even near
>Massachusetts when I did. I want to be part of nature, I want my
>body to be subjected to natural processes.


Every cemetery around here is a wildlife sanctuary, and last I heard
most coffins are very biodegradable wood.
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In article >,
Brooklyn1 > wrote:
>a lot of profound thought... cremation is literally the cowardly way
>out, cremation translates to a big **** Yoose All after the fact.


I don't have any children or siblings. What's the point in a grave?
Once my husband and I are both dead (and I'm quite likely to outlive
him), there won't be anybody who gives a shit anyway.

My grandparents are in cardboard boxes in my mother's linen closet.
Once Mom is gone, my grandparents are going in the dumpster.


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Janet wrote:
> If a naked body was left out in wild country, all the soft tisue would
> be consumed remarkably fast (at least in summer) and foxes/corvids etc
> would take the bones away.
>
> Janet UK


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