As I was fixing the tacos for our dinner tonight, I got to thinking about
this. I might go into an old folk's home. And if I do? Will the type of
food fixed for them change? I ask this because... I asked my dad if they
ever got Mexican food where he was at and he said that he did not. I have
seen some of what they get and I can say that I would not want to eat it!

The mashed potatoes are instant. Okay, I guess I could deal with that
but... One night they served them with chicken in bottled BBQ sauce. And
what did they put over the mashed potatoes? Not gravy! You guessed it!
Additional BBQ sauce! I just can't imagine having to try to eat that!

I don't know who is in charge of ordering the food. But I do think part of
the problem at least at his facility is that they have people working there
who do not know how to cook. One woman who is no longer there had to look
up a recipe for cupcakes on her smart phone and then was astounded that they
came out right. When we got there the other day, something smelled good.
One of the new employees was trying to make Snickerdoodles. But they did
not work. Not sure what didn't work about them. But my dad was sad because
they've always been his favorite cookie and there wasn't going to be any.

Most of the time the food they get isn't even what I would call cooked.
Rice A Roni, frozen chicken nuggets, soup from a can, bologna sandwiches,
egg salad sandwiches, and often strange combinations. I think another part
of it is that they hire a lot of foreigners who perhaps don't know what
kinds of foods we would normally eat here. The other night, I questioned
the strange, purplish brown lump on my dad's plate. It was accompanied by
the instant mashed potatoes and a little dab of the Costco mixed frozen
vegetables that they seem to have night after night after endless night. I
was told that it was beef. And as we left, I muttered to my mom, "Beef from
what kind of animal?"

When my friend's mom was in a nursing home, she hated the food so badly that
she begged my friend to bring her a loaf of bread an a jar of peanut butter
every week or so.

So this just got me to thinking. I supposed part of what they are fed is
based on medical or other needs. For instance, a person with dentures or
dental problems might need soft foods. I understand the chicken nuggets
because I have read that often it is hard for seniors to use forks and
spoons and that finger food is easier for them. And most of the people
where my dad is are pretty deep into dementia so probably wouldn't even know
or remember if they were being served the same food day after day. Like the
frozen vegetables.

But another thing! I'd be willing to bet that a lot of the people who are
in such places now were accustomed to eating different things when they were
growing up than we do now. Unless they were born in another country, they
probably didn't have Thai or Mexican or Chinese, except perhaps for whatever
faux version of a recipe was in their mom's cookbook at the time. I have
some of my parent's old cookbooks and there are recipes for Chinese things
or Italian things that bear no resemblance to the real thing.

So... When I go into such a place (assuming that I will), I sure hope that
I don't have to eat those meals like my dad is eating now! Mostly they seem
to give them very tiny portions of things that look either pretty flavorless
or the wrong flavor. Like BBQ sauce on instant mashed potatoes. I also
love my raw veggies and they don't seem to get a lot of that. They do serve
salad from time to time but it seems like mostly just some iceberg lettuce.
I never see anything exciting like olives or some onion on there to liven it
up.

Do you think by the time I get into one of those places (age 54 now) there
will be a demand for better food? Tastier food? More variety? Right now,
my dad thinks he doesn't like Mexican food, perhaps because he doesn't
remember it. But when I was growing up, we had Mexican food at least once a
week. Often more. We did bring him Chinese food and he wolfed it right
down like he was starved. And he loved it! My brother also brings him
Italian although it is from Olive Garden. He does like Olive Garden though.

Yeah, I'm rambling. But also thinking ahead to my future. And I hope it
doesn't include BBQ sauce!

Sqwertz wrote:
> OTOH, you'll have plenty to bitch about all day long. Real question
> is, will anybody listen to you?

You need a face-ectomy Sqwerty, you gutless ****.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:49:25 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> As I was fixing the tacos for our dinner tonight, I got to thinking about
>> this. I might go into an old folk's home. And if I do?
>
> Then you better bring a lot of canned beans.

Thankfully Angela already knows this. We have discussed it. She will bring
me beans, peanut butter and crackers or bread.
>
> OTOH, you'll have plenty to bitch about all day long. Real question
> is, will anybody listen to you?

Highly doubt it. Back when my dad could still use his phone, he would call
people all the time, desperate to talk to someone. Nobody talks to him
there. The workers pay them little mind and they can't talk to each other
much because none can hold a conversation. Sadly, my dad is starting to get
that way now.

On Monday, July 29, 2013 8:49:25 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
> As I was fixing the tacos for our dinner tonight, I got to thinking about
>
> this. I might go into an old folk's home. And if I do? Will the type of
>
> food fixed for them change? I ask this because... I asked my dad if they
>
> ever got Mexican food where he was at and he said that he did not. I have
>
> seen some of what they get and I can say that I would not want to eat it!
>
>
>
> The mashed potatoes are instant. Okay, I guess I could deal with that
>
> but... One night they served them with chicken in bottled BBQ sauce. And
>
> what did they put over the mashed potatoes? Not gravy! You guessed it!
>
> Additional BBQ sauce! I just can't imagine having to try to eat that!
>
>
>
> I don't know who is in charge of ordering the food. But I do think part of
>
> the problem at least at his facility is that they have people working there
>
> who do not know how to cook. One woman who is no longer there had to look
>
> up a recipe for cupcakes on her smart phone and then was astounded that they
>
> came out right. When we got there the other day, something smelled good.
>
> One of the new employees was trying to make Snickerdoodles. But they did
>
> not work. Not sure what didn't work about them. But my dad was sad because
>
> they've always been his favorite cookie and there wasn't going to be any.
>
>
>
> Most of the time the food they get isn't even what I would call cooked.
>
> Rice A Roni, frozen chicken nuggets, soup from a can, bologna sandwiches,
>
> egg salad sandwiches, and often strange combinations. I think another part
>
> of it is that they hire a lot of foreigners who perhaps don't know what
>
> kinds of foods we would normally eat here. The other night, I questioned
>
> the strange, purplish brown lump on my dad's plate. It was accompanied by
>
> the instant mashed potatoes and a little dab of the Costco mixed frozen
>
> vegetables that they seem to have night after night after endless night. I
>
> was told that it was beef. And as we left, I muttered to my mom, "Beef from
>
> what kind of animal?"
>
>
>
> When my friend's mom was in a nursing home, she hated the food so badly that
>
> she begged my friend to bring her a loaf of bread an a jar of peanut butter
>
> every week or so.
>
>
>
> So this just got me to thinking. I supposed part of what they are fed is
>
> based on medical or other needs. For instance, a person with dentures or
>
> dental problems might need soft foods. I understand the chicken nuggets
>
> because I have read that often it is hard for seniors to use forks and
>
> spoons and that finger food is easier for them. And most of the people
>
> where my dad is are pretty deep into dementia so probably wouldn't even know
>
> or remember if they were being served the same food day after day. Like the
>
> frozen vegetables.
>
>
>
> But another thing! I'd be willing to bet that a lot of the people who are
>
> in such places now were accustomed to eating different things when they were
>
> growing up than we do now. Unless they were born in another country, they
>
> probably didn't have Thai or Mexican or Chinese, except perhaps for whatever
>
> faux version of a recipe was in their mom's cookbook at the time. I have
>
> some of my parent's old cookbooks and there are recipes for Chinese things
>
> or Italian things that bear no resemblance to the real thing.
>
>
>
> So... When I go into such a place (assuming that I will), I sure hope that
>
> I don't have to eat those meals like my dad is eating now! Mostly they seem
>
> to give them very tiny portions of things that look either pretty flavorless
>
> or the wrong flavor. Like BBQ sauce on instant mashed potatoes. I also
>
> love my raw veggies and they don't seem to get a lot of that. They do serve
>
> salad from time to time but it seems like mostly just some iceberg lettuce.
>
> I never see anything exciting like olives or some onion on there to liven it
>
> up.
>
>
>
> Do you think by the time I get into one of those places (age 54 now) there
>
> will be a demand for better food? Tastier food? More variety? Right now,
>
> my dad thinks he doesn't like Mexican food, perhaps because he doesn't
>
> remember it. But when I was growing up, we had Mexican food at least once a
>
> week. Often more. We did bring him Chinese food and he wolfed it right
>
> down like he was starved. And he loved it! My brother also brings him
>
> Italian although it is from Olive Garden. He does like Olive Garden though.
>
>
>
> Yeah, I'm rambling. But also thinking ahead to my future. And I hope it
>
> doesn't include BBQ sauce!

Maybe you will have a stroke or a heart attack. Maybe you'll hit your head when you trip over your broom and mop, or a pan will just jump out at you and slit your jugular. Regardless, I think you should focus on the real live world.

merryb wrote:
> On Monday, July 29, 2013 8:49:25 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
>> As I was fixing the tacos for our dinner tonight, I got to thinking
>> about
>>
>> this. I might go into an old folk's home. And if I do? Will the
>> type of
>>
>> food fixed for them change? I ask this because... I asked my dad
>> if they
>>
>> ever got Mexican food where he was at and he said that he did not.
>> I have
>>
>> seen some of what they get and I can say that I would not want to
>> eat it!
>>
>>
>>
>> The mashed potatoes are instant. Okay, I guess I could deal with
>> that
>>
>> but... One night they served them with chicken in bottled BBQ
>> sauce. And
>>
>> what did they put over the mashed potatoes? Not gravy! You guessed
>> it!
>>
>> Additional BBQ sauce! I just can't imagine having to try to eat
>> that!
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't know who is in charge of ordering the food. But I do think
>> part of
>>
>> the problem at least at his facility is that they have people
>> working there
>>
>> who do not know how to cook. One woman who is no longer there had
>> to look
>>
>> up a recipe for cupcakes on her smart phone and then was astounded
>> that they
>>
>> came out right. When we got there the other day, something smelled
>> good.
>>
>> One of the new employees was trying to make Snickerdoodles. But
>> they did
>>
>> not work. Not sure what didn't work about them. But my dad was sad
>> because
>>
>> they've always been his favorite cookie and there wasn't going to be
>> any.
>>
>>
>>
>> Most of the time the food they get isn't even what I would call
>> cooked.
>>
>> Rice A Roni, frozen chicken nuggets, soup from a can, bologna
>> sandwiches,
>>
>> egg salad sandwiches, and often strange combinations. I think
>> another part
>>
>> of it is that they hire a lot of foreigners who perhaps don't know
>> what
>>
>> kinds of foods we would normally eat here. The other night, I
>> questioned
>>
>> the strange, purplish brown lump on my dad's plate. It was
>> accompanied by
>>
>> the instant mashed potatoes and a little dab of the Costco mixed
>> frozen
>>
>> vegetables that they seem to have night after night after endless
>> night. I
>>
>> was told that it was beef. And as we left, I muttered to my mom,
>> "Beef from
>>
>> what kind of animal?"
>>
>>
>>
>> When my friend's mom was in a nursing home, she hated the food so
>> badly that
>>
>> she begged my friend to bring her a loaf of bread an a jar of peanut
>> butter
>>
>> every week or so.
>>
>>
>>
>> So this just got me to thinking. I supposed part of what they are
>> fed is
>>
>> based on medical or other needs. For instance, a person with
>> dentures or
>>
>> dental problems might need soft foods. I understand the chicken
>> nuggets
>>
>> because I have read that often it is hard for seniors to use forks
>> and
>>
>> spoons and that finger food is easier for them. And most of the
>> people
>>
>> where my dad is are pretty deep into dementia so probably wouldn't
>> even know
>>
>> or remember if they were being served the same food day after day.
>> Like the
>>
>> frozen vegetables.
>>
>>
>>
>> But another thing! I'd be willing to bet that a lot of the people
>> who are
>>
>> in such places now were accustomed to eating different things when
>> they were
>>
>> growing up than we do now. Unless they were born in another
>> country, they
>>
>> probably didn't have Thai or Mexican or Chinese, except perhaps for
>> whatever
>>
>> faux version of a recipe was in their mom's cookbook at the time. I
>> have
>>
>> some of my parent's old cookbooks and there are recipes for Chinese
>> things
>>
>> or Italian things that bear no resemblance to the real thing.
>>
>>
>>
>> So... When I go into such a place (assuming that I will), I sure
>> hope that
>>
>> I don't have to eat those meals like my dad is eating now! Mostly
>> they seem
>>
>> to give them very tiny portions of things that look either pretty
>> flavorless
>>
>> or the wrong flavor. Like BBQ sauce on instant mashed potatoes. I
>> also
>>
>> love my raw veggies and they don't seem to get a lot of that. They
>> do serve
>>
>> salad from time to time but it seems like mostly just some iceberg
>> lettuce.
>>
>> I never see anything exciting like olives or some onion on there to
>> liven it
>>
>> up.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you think by the time I get into one of those places (age 54 now)
>> there
>>
>> will be a demand for better food? Tastier food? More variety?
>> Right now,
>>
>> my dad thinks he doesn't like Mexican food, perhaps because he
>> doesn't
>>
>> remember it. But when I was growing up, we had Mexican food at
>> least once a
>>
>> week. Often more. We did bring him Chinese food and he wolfed it
>> right
>>
>> down like he was starved. And he loved it! My brother also brings
>> him
>>
>> Italian although it is from Olive Garden. He does like Olive Garden
>> though.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah, I'm rambling. But also thinking ahead to my future. And I
>> hope it
>>
>> doesn't include BBQ sauce!
>
> Maybe you will have a stroke or a heart attack. Maybe you'll hit your
> head when you trip over your broom and mop, or a pan will just jump
> out at you and slit your jugular. Regardless, I think you should
> focus on the real live world.

Hmmm... I don't think that I asked what you thought I should focus on.

*Looks around*

No. No I didn't. At any rate, my dad and his food *is* the real world. I
have to see and smell what he eats!

On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:54:08 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> At any rate, my dad and his food *is* the real world. I
>
> have to see and smell what he eats!
>
>
If you are worried about what daddy eats, bring him home to live with you and then you'll have another picky eater, possibly, to post about.

wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:54:08 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> At any rate, my dad and his food *is* the real world. I
>>
>> have to see and smell what he eats!
>>
>>
> If you are worried about what daddy eats, bring him home to live with
> you and then you'll have another picky eater, possibly, to post
> about.

That's not possible. He's in there because he falls. And when he falls, he
can't get up and we can't get him up. Plus we have a tiny house that is not
equipped for a person in a wheel chair. And you are quite nasty.

In article >,
says...
>

> If you are worried about what daddy eats, bring him home to live with you and then you'll have another picky eater, possibly, to post about.

Coming soon; Daddybove escapes into the garden, turns feral and
lives under the porch, telling Angela he prefers catfood to beans,
beans, beans. Angela starts new diet of canned fish and kittykibble.

Janet UK

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...

> Do you think by the time I get into one of those places (age 54 now) there
> will be a demand for better food? Tastier food? More variety? Right
> now, my dad thinks he doesn't like Mexican food, perhaps because he
> doesn't remember it. But when I was growing up, we had Mexican food at
> least once a week. Often more. We did bring him Chinese food and he
> wolfed it right down like he was starved. And he loved it! My brother
> also brings him Italian although it is from Olive Garden. He does like
> Olive Garden though.
>
> Yeah, I'm rambling. But also thinking ahead to my future. And I hope it
> doesn't include BBQ sauce!

I fear that unless you are very rich and can afford a private nursing home,
you will have to put up with that they give you



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"merryb" > wrote in message
...
> Maybe you will have a stroke or a heart attack. Maybe you'll hit your head
> when you trip over your broom and mop, or a pan will just jump out at you
> and slit your jugular.

Yes and maybe you will not be able to live with yourself, remembering how
much you went out of your way to be hurtful. I wish a very painful old age
for you.
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On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:54:08 AM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
> merryb wrote:
>
> > On Monday, July 29, 2013 8:49:25 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >> As I was fixing the tacos for our dinner tonight, I got to thinking
>
> >> about
>
> >>
>
> >> this. I might go into an old folk's home. And if I do? Will the
>
> >> type of
>
> >>
>
> >> food fixed for them change? I ask this because... I asked my dad
>
> >> if they
>
> >>
>
> >> ever got Mexican food where he was at and he said that he did not.
>
> >> I have
>
> >>
>
> >> seen some of what they get and I can say that I would not want to
>
> >> eat it!
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> The mashed potatoes are instant. Okay, I guess I could deal with
>
> >> that
>
> >>
>
> >> but... One night they served them with chicken in bottled BBQ
>
> >> sauce. And
>
> >>
>
> >> what did they put over the mashed potatoes? Not gravy! You guessed
>
> >> it!
>
> >>
>
> >> Additional BBQ sauce! I just can't imagine having to try to eat
>
> >> that!
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> I don't know who is in charge of ordering the food. But I do think
>
> >> part of
>
> >>
>
> >> the problem at least at his facility is that they have people
>
> >> working there
>
> >>
>
> >> who do not know how to cook. One woman who is no longer there had
>
> >> to look
>
> >>
>
> >> up a recipe for cupcakes on her smart phone and then was astounded
>
> >> that they
>
> >>
>
> >> came out right. When we got there the other day, something smelled
>
> >> good.
>
> >>
>
> >> One of the new employees was trying to make Snickerdoodles. But
>
> >> they did
>
> >>
>
> >> not work. Not sure what didn't work about them. But my dad was sad
>
> >> because
>
> >>
>
> >> they've always been his favorite cookie and there wasn't going to be
>
> >> any.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> Most of the time the food they get isn't even what I would call
>
> >> cooked.
>
> >>
>
> >> Rice A Roni, frozen chicken nuggets, soup from a can, bologna
>
> >> sandwiches,
>
> >>
>
> >> egg salad sandwiches, and often strange combinations. I think
>
> >> another part
>
> >>
>
> >> of it is that they hire a lot of foreigners who perhaps don't know
>
> >> what
>
> >>
>
> >> kinds of foods we would normally eat here. The other night, I
>
> >> questioned
>
> >>
>
> >> the strange, purplish brown lump on my dad's plate. It was
>
> >> accompanied by
>
> >>
>
> >> the instant mashed potatoes and a little dab of the Costco mixed
>
> >> frozen
>
> >>
>
> >> vegetables that they seem to have night after night after endless
>
> >> night. I
>
> >>
>
> >> was told that it was beef. And as we left, I muttered to my mom,
>
> >> "Beef from
>
> >>
>
> >> what kind of animal?"
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> When my friend's mom was in a nursing home, she hated the food so
>
> >> badly that
>
> >>
>
> >> she begged my friend to bring her a loaf of bread an a jar of peanut
>
> >> butter
>
> >>
>
> >> every week or so.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> So this just got me to thinking. I supposed part of what they are
>
> >> fed is
>
> >>
>
> >> based on medical or other needs. For instance, a person with
>
> >> dentures or
>
> >>
>
> >> dental problems might need soft foods. I understand the chicken
>
> >> nuggets
>
> >>
>
> >> because I have read that often it is hard for seniors to use forks
>
> >> and
>
> >>
>
> >> spoons and that finger food is easier for them. And most of the
>
> >> people
>
> >>
>
> >> where my dad is are pretty deep into dementia so probably wouldn't
>
> >> even know
>
> >>
>
> >> or remember if they were being served the same food day after day.
>
> >> Like the
>
> >>
>
> >> frozen vegetables.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> But another thing! I'd be willing to bet that a lot of the people
>
> >> who are
>
> >>
>
> >> in such places now were accustomed to eating different things when
>
> >> they were
>
> >>
>
> >> growing up than we do now. Unless they were born in another
>
> >> country, they
>
> >>
>
> >> probably didn't have Thai or Mexican or Chinese, except perhaps for
>
> >> whatever
>
> >>
>
> >> faux version of a recipe was in their mom's cookbook at the time. I
>
> >> have
>
> >>
>
> >> some of my parent's old cookbooks and there are recipes for Chinese
>
> >> things
>
> >>
>
> >> or Italian things that bear no resemblance to the real thing.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> So... When I go into such a place (assuming that I will), I sure
>
> >> hope that
>
> >>
>
> >> I don't have to eat those meals like my dad is eating now! Mostly
>
> >> they seem
>
> >>
>
> >> to give them very tiny portions of things that look either pretty
>
> >> flavorless
>
> >>
>
> >> or the wrong flavor. Like BBQ sauce on instant mashed potatoes. I
>
> >> also
>
> >>
>
> >> love my raw veggies and they don't seem to get a lot of that. They
>
> >> do serve
>
> >>
>
> >> salad from time to time but it seems like mostly just some iceberg
>
> >> lettuce.
>
> >>
>
> >> I never see anything exciting like olives or some onion on there to
>
> >> liven it
>
> >>
>
> >> up.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> Do you think by the time I get into one of those places (age 54 now)
>
> >> there
>
> >>
>
> >> will be a demand for better food? Tastier food? More variety?
>
> >> Right now,
>
> >>
>
> >> my dad thinks he doesn't like Mexican food, perhaps because he
>
> >> doesn't
>
> >>
>
> >> remember it. But when I was growing up, we had Mexican food at
>
> >> least once a
>
> >>
>
> >> week. Often more. We did bring him Chinese food and he wolfed it
>
> >> right
>
> >>
>
> >> down like he was starved. And he loved it! My brother also brings
>
> >> him
>
> >>
>
> >> Italian although it is from Olive Garden. He does like Olive Garden
>
> >> though.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> Yeah, I'm rambling. But also thinking ahead to my future. And I
>
> >> hope it
>
> >>
>
> >> doesn't include BBQ sauce!
>
> >
>
> > Maybe you will have a stroke or a heart attack. Maybe you'll hit your
>
> > head when you trip over your broom and mop, or a pan will just jump
>
> > out at you and slit your jugular. Regardless, I think you should
>
> > focus on the real live world.
>
>
>
> Hmmm... I don't think that I asked what you thought I should focus on.
>
>
>
> *Looks around*
>
>
>
> No. No I didn't. At any rate, my dad and his food *is* the real world. I
>
> have to see and smell what he eats!

Yes, but you were rambling about yourself, not your dad.

On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:42:31 AM UTC-7, Ophelia wrote:
> "merryb" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Maybe you will have a stroke or a heart attack. Maybe you'll hit your head
>
> > when you trip over your broom and mop, or a pan will just jump out at you
>
> > and slit your jugular.
>
>
>
> Yes and maybe you will not be able to live with yourself, remembering how
>
> much you went out of your way to be hurtful. I wish a very painful old age
>
> for you.
>
> --
>
> --
>
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

Hold on!! I wasn't being hurtful- just pointing out that worrying about something that may never happen is silly. We never know when our time will be up.

On 7/30/2013 11:39 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Do you think by the time I get into one of those places (age 54 now)
>> there will be a demand for better food? Tastier food? More variety?
>> Right now, my dad thinks he doesn't like Mexican food, perhaps because
>> he doesn't remember it. But when I was growing up, we had Mexican
>> food at least once a week. Often more. We did bring him Chinese food
>> and he wolfed it right down like he was starved. And he loved it! My
>> brother also brings him Italian although it is from Olive Garden. He
>> does like Olive Garden though.
>>
>> Yeah, I'm rambling. But also thinking ahead to my future. And I hope
>> it doesn't include BBQ sauce!
>
> I fear that unless you are very rich and can afford a private nursing
> home, you will have to put up with that they give you
>
>
>
Unfortunately this is true. And unless the person has a Long-Term Care
insurance policy nursing homes are not cheap. Medicare only covers a
portion of the cost of a nursing home *after* a three-day qualifying
hospital stay. The Medicare web site doesn't say how much will be
covered or for how long. I seem to recall it is something like 90 or
120 days. They don't indicate the percentage of the cost covered.

Jill

"merryb" > wrote in message
...

> Hold on!! I wasn't being hurtful- just pointing out that worrying about
> something that may never happen is silly. We never know when our time will
> be up.

You usually are very hurtful. You are right that we don't know when our
time will come. You might like to think about that.

--
--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...

> Hmmm... I don't think that I asked what you thought I should focus on.

I think you should stop being so lazy with your posts and focus on snipping
for relevance.

Cheri

In article >,
"Julie Bove" > wrote:

> As I was fixing the tacos for our dinner tonight, I got to thinking about
> this. I might go into an old folk's home. And if I do? Will the type of
> food fixed for them change? I ask this because... I asked my dad if they
> ever got Mexican food where he was at and he said that he did not. I have
> seen some of what they get and I can say that I would not want to eat it!

you mean your husband and daughter wouldn't take care of you?

In article >,
lid says...
>
> In article >,
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
> > As I was fixing the tacos for our dinner tonight, I got to thinking about
> > this. I might go into an old folk's home. And if I do? Will the type of
> > food fixed for them change? I ask this because... I asked my dad if they
> > ever got Mexican food where he was at and he said that he did not. I have
> > seen some of what they get and I can say that I would not want to eat it!
>
> you mean your husband and daughter wouldn't take care of you?

They can't cook, so how could they?

Janet

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Do you think by the time I get into one of those places (age 54 now)
>> there will be a demand for better food? Tastier food? More variety?
>> Right now, my dad thinks he doesn't like Mexican food, perhaps because he
>> doesn't remember it. But when I was growing up, we had Mexican food at
>> least once a week. Often more. We did bring him Chinese food and he
>> wolfed it right down like he was starved. And he loved it! My brother
>> also brings him Italian although it is from Olive Garden. He does like
>> Olive Garden though.
>>
>> Yeah, I'm rambling. But also thinking ahead to my future. And I hope it
>> doesn't include BBQ sauce!
>
> I fear that unless you are very rich and can afford a private nursing
> home, you will have to put up with that they give you

I think the way it works here is that all of the nursing homes are private.
But I could be wrong. These are private places I am talking about.

"merryb" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:42:31 AM UTC-7, Ophelia wrote:
>> "merryb" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> > Maybe you will have a stroke or a heart attack. Maybe you'll hit your
>> > head
>>
>> > when you trip over your broom and mop, or a pan will just jump out at
>> > you
>>
>> > and slit your jugular.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes and maybe you will not be able to live with yourself, remembering how
>>
>> much you went out of your way to be hurtful. I wish a very painful old
>> age
>>
>> for you.
>>
>> --
>>
>> --
>>
>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/
>
> Hold on!! I wasn't being hurtful- just pointing out that worrying about
> something that may never happen is silly. We never know when our time will
> be up.

I'm not so much worrying about it as wondering. For instance, I have read
that in a lot of nursing homes, the people living there are now listening to
heavy metal music or hip hop and have Ipads and computers. So if they are
changing in those ways... Will they also change the foods to accomodate our
tastes? Oddly enough after I posted this, I was watching that new
Supermarket show where they have people competing to get new food products
on the market. They said that the American palate is changing. This is
what I was getting at although I may not have expressed myself well. They
said that "foreign" foods are no longer foreign to us and are becoming far
more commonplace in our diet.

So I guess what I was wondering was... Will they continue to serve the same
types of foods that they are now in those places? Or will they have to
change to accomodate our new palate?

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "merryb" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Hold on!! I wasn't being hurtful- just pointing out that worrying about
>> something that may never happen is silly. We never know when our time
>> will
>> be up.
>
> You usually are very hurtful. You are right that we don't know when our
> time will come. You might like to think about that.

Of course nobody knows when their time will come. I had my horoscope done
when I was 12 and it said I would die in middle age. Well, I'm 54 now.
Almost a senior. When I was 12, IO thought middle age was 35. Heh. But my
family tends to live for a long time and go into dementia so it's highly
likely that I'll go that route too. I am going everything in my power to
stave it off but already I am seeing signs of the mind going. Just am
getting more and more forgetful and sometimes it is extremely hard to think
things through.

Like the other day when I had the flat tire. I had Angela call my mom to
say that we could not come over and bring the food from the freezer when it
broke. My mom asked where we were. Angela knew full well where we were. I
did too. I was just exhausted and worn out from having so many things go
wrong at once. So when Angela asked where we were, all I could do was
stammer that I didn't know and I would call my mom back. I then had to come
home, sit for a few minutes, have a cold drink (it was very hot that day)
and think things through. My mom would say that I was being hysterical but
it wasn't really that. It was just that my brain went on overload.

I used to think that I could multitask very well. I have read that nobody
can but when we are younger, we think we can. I do think this is true. I
can't do it now and it does seem that it takes me longer and longer to do
things. I thought about this last night. We got home from grocery and
other shopping. I was trying to put things away, pick out the specific
things I needed for dinner, get the dinner going, was cooking vegetarian
tacos for Angela and beef ones for husband and me. Also had two kinds of
beans. Vegetarian and not. And I was putting cheese, sour cream and
guacamole on their plates. So kind of like three different meals. And
feeding the cats. And putting stuff away. And of course I got two phone
calls in the middle of this. Oh and I had mail to deal with and needed to
fill the refrigerator with cold drinks and also take out the trash and
recycling. I did have Angela helping me but... This required more brain
power because I had to tell her what to do. For instance, take out the
lettuce and green onions before putting the rest of the produce away.
Otherwise she would bury them in the drawer.

So it wound up taking me about an hour to do all of this stuff. And I think
in the old days I could have probably whipped it all out in a half an hour.

"merryb" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:54:08 AM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
>> merryb wrote:
>>
>> > On Monday, July 29, 2013 8:49:25 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> >> As I was fixing the tacos for our dinner tonight, I got to thinking
>>
>> >> about
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> this. I might go into an old folk's home. And if I do? Will the
>>
>> >> type of
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> food fixed for them change? I ask this because... I asked my dad
>>
>> >> if they
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> ever got Mexican food where he was at and he said that he did not.
>>
>> >> I have
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> seen some of what they get and I can say that I would not want to
>>
>> >> eat it!
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> The mashed potatoes are instant. Okay, I guess I could deal with
>>
>> >> that
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> but... One night they served them with chicken in bottled BBQ
>>
>> >> sauce. And
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> what did they put over the mashed potatoes? Not gravy! You guessed
>>
>> >> it!
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> Additional BBQ sauce! I just can't imagine having to try to eat
>>
>> >> that!
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> I don't know who is in charge of ordering the food. But I do think
>>
>> >> part of
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> the problem at least at his facility is that they have people
>>
>> >> working there
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> who do not know how to cook. One woman who is no longer there had
>>
>> >> to look
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> up a recipe for cupcakes on her smart phone and then was astounded
>>
>> >> that they
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> came out right. When we got there the other day, something smelled
>>
>> >> good.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> One of the new employees was trying to make Snickerdoodles. But
>>
>> >> they did
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> not work. Not sure what didn't work about them. But my dad was sad
>>
>> >> because
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> they've always been his favorite cookie and there wasn't going to be
>>
>> >> any.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> Most of the time the food they get isn't even what I would call
>>
>> >> cooked.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> Rice A Roni, frozen chicken nuggets, soup from a can, bologna
>>
>> >> sandwiches,
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> egg salad sandwiches, and often strange combinations. I think
>>
>> >> another part
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> of it is that they hire a lot of foreigners who perhaps don't know
>>
>> >> what
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> kinds of foods we would normally eat here. The other night, I
>>
>> >> questioned
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> the strange, purplish brown lump on my dad's plate. It was
>>
>> >> accompanied by
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> the instant mashed potatoes and a little dab of the Costco mixed
>>
>> >> frozen
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> vegetables that they seem to have night after night after endless
>>
>> >> night. I
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> was told that it was beef. And as we left, I muttered to my mom,
>>
>> >> "Beef from
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> what kind of animal?"
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> When my friend's mom was in a nursing home, she hated the food so
>>
>> >> badly that
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> she begged my friend to bring her a loaf of bread an a jar of peanut
>>
>> >> butter
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> every week or so.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> So this just got me to thinking. I supposed part of what they are
>>
>> >> fed is
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> based on medical or other needs. For instance, a person with
>>
>> >> dentures or
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> dental problems might need soft foods. I understand the chicken
>>
>> >> nuggets
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> because I have read that often it is hard for seniors to use forks
>>
>> >> and
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> spoons and that finger food is easier for them. And most of the
>>
>> >> people
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> where my dad is are pretty deep into dementia so probably wouldn't
>>
>> >> even know
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> or remember if they were being served the same food day after day.
>>
>> >> Like the
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> frozen vegetables.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> But another thing! I'd be willing to bet that a lot of the people
>>
>> >> who are
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> in such places now were accustomed to eating different things when
>>
>> >> they were
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> growing up than we do now. Unless they were born in another
>>
>> >> country, they
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> probably didn't have Thai or Mexican or Chinese, except perhaps for
>>
>> >> whatever
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> faux version of a recipe was in their mom's cookbook at the time. I
>>
>> >> have
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> some of my parent's old cookbooks and there are recipes for Chinese
>>
>> >> things
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> or Italian things that bear no resemblance to the real thing.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> So... When I go into such a place (assuming that I will), I sure
>>
>> >> hope that
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> I don't have to eat those meals like my dad is eating now! Mostly
>>
>> >> they seem
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> to give them very tiny portions of things that look either pretty
>>
>> >> flavorless
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> or the wrong flavor. Like BBQ sauce on instant mashed potatoes. I
>>
>> >> also
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> love my raw veggies and they don't seem to get a lot of that. They
>>
>> >> do serve
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> salad from time to time but it seems like mostly just some iceberg
>>
>> >> lettuce.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> I never see anything exciting like olives or some onion on there to
>>
>> >> liven it
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> up.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> Do you think by the time I get into one of those places (age 54 now)
>>
>> >> there
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> will be a demand for better food? Tastier food? More variety?
>>
>> >> Right now,
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> my dad thinks he doesn't like Mexican food, perhaps because he
>>
>> >> doesn't
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> remember it. But when I was growing up, we had Mexican food at
>>
>> >> least once a
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> week. Often more. We did bring him Chinese food and he wolfed it
>>
>> >> right
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> down like he was starved. And he loved it! My brother also brings
>>
>> >> him
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> Italian although it is from Olive Garden. He does like Olive Garden
>>
>> >> though.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> Yeah, I'm rambling. But also thinking ahead to my future. And I
>>
>> >> hope it
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> doesn't include BBQ sauce!
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Maybe you will have a stroke or a heart attack. Maybe you'll hit your
>>
>> > head when you trip over your broom and mop, or a pan will just jump
>>
>> > out at you and slit your jugular. Regardless, I think you should
>>
>> > focus on the real live world.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hmmm... I don't think that I asked what you thought I should focus on.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Looks around*
>>
>>
>>
>> No. No I didn't. At any rate, my dad and his food *is* the real world.
>> I
>>
>> have to see and smell what he eats!
>
> Yes, but you were rambling about yourself, not your dad.

No, I was rambling in general, I think.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Hmmm... I don't think that I asked what you thought I should focus on.
>
> I think you should stop being so lazy with your posts and focus on
> snipping for relevance.

I didn't ask what you thought either.

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >,
> lid says...
>>
>> In article >,
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>
>> > As I was fixing the tacos for our dinner tonight, I got to thinking
>> > about
>> > this. I might go into an old folk's home. And if I do? Will the type
>> > of
>> > food fixed for them change? I ask this because... I asked my dad if
>> > they
>> > ever got Mexican food where he was at and he said that he did not. I
>> > have
>> > seen some of what they get and I can say that I would not want to eat
>> > it!
>>
>> you mean your husband and daughter wouldn't take care of you?
>
> They can't cook, so how could they?

I wouldn't expect a family member to take care of me. People do have their
own lives. I saw how well that worked with my MIL. It didn't! That kind
of care nearly killed her. Of course each case is different. But much of
the time it comes down to a person needing a level of care that the ordinary
person can not provide.

On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:49:25 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>As I was fixing the tacos for our dinner tonight, I got to thinking about
>this. I might go into an old folk's home. And if I do? Will the type of
>food fixed for them change? I ask this because... I asked my dad if they
>ever got Mexican food where he was at and he said that he did not. I have
>seen some of what they get and I can say that I would not want to eat it!
>
>The mashed potatoes are instant. Okay, I guess I could deal with that
>but... One night they served them with chicken in bottled BBQ sauce. And
>what did they put over the mashed potatoes? Not gravy! You guessed it!
>Additional BBQ sauce! I just can't imagine having to try to eat that!
>
>I don't know who is in charge of ordering the food. But I do think part of
>the problem at least at his facility is that they have people working there
>who do not know how to cook. One woman who is no longer there had to look
>up a recipe for cupcakes on her smart phone and then was astounded that they
>came out right. When we got there the other day, something smelled good.
>One of the new employees was trying to make Snickerdoodles. But they did
>not work. Not sure what didn't work about them. But my dad was sad because
>they've always been his favorite cookie and there wasn't going to be any.
>
>Most of the time the food they get isn't even what I would call cooked.
>Rice A Roni, frozen chicken nuggets, soup from a can, bologna sandwiches,
>egg salad sandwiches, and often strange combinations. I think another part
>of it is that they hire a lot of foreigners who perhaps don't know what
>kinds of foods we would normally eat here. The other night, I questioned
>the strange, purplish brown lump on my dad's plate. It was accompanied by
>the instant mashed potatoes and a little dab of the Costco mixed frozen
>vegetables that they seem to have night after night after endless night. I
>was told that it was beef. And as we left, I muttered to my mom, "Beef from
>what kind of animal?"
>
>When my friend's mom was in a nursing home, she hated the food so badly that
>she begged my friend to bring her a loaf of bread an a jar of peanut butter
>every week or so.
>
>So this just got me to thinking. I supposed part of what they are fed is
>based on medical or other needs. For instance, a person with dentures or
>dental problems might need soft foods. I understand the chicken nuggets
>because I have read that often it is hard for seniors to use forks and
>spoons and that finger food is easier for them. And most of the people
>where my dad is are pretty deep into dementia so probably wouldn't even know
>or remember if they were being served the same food day after day. Like the
>frozen vegetables.
>
>But another thing! I'd be willing to bet that a lot of the people who are
>in such places now were accustomed to eating different things when they were
>growing up than we do now. Unless they were born in another country, they
>probably didn't have Thai or Mexican or Chinese, except perhaps for whatever
>faux version of a recipe was in their mom's cookbook at the time. I have
>some of my parent's old cookbooks and there are recipes for Chinese things
>or Italian things that bear no resemblance to the real thing.
>
>So... When I go into such a place (assuming that I will), I sure hope that
>I don't have to eat those meals like my dad is eating now! Mostly they seem
>to give them very tiny portions of things that look either pretty flavorless
>or the wrong flavor. Like BBQ sauce on instant mashed potatoes. I also
>love my raw veggies and they don't seem to get a lot of that. They do serve
>salad from time to time but it seems like mostly just some iceberg lettuce.
>I never see anything exciting like olives or some onion on there to liven it
>up.
>
>Do you think by the time I get into one of those places (age 54 now) there
>will be a demand for better food? Tastier food? More variety? Right now,
>my dad thinks he doesn't like Mexican food, perhaps because he doesn't
>remember it. But when I was growing up, we had Mexican food at least once a
>week. Often more. We did bring him Chinese food and he wolfed it right
>down like he was starved. And he loved it! My brother also brings him
>Italian although it is from Olive Garden. He does like Olive Garden though.
>
>Yeah, I'm rambling. But also thinking ahead to my future. And I hope it
>doesn't include BBQ sauce!

I believe that institutions in the U.S. - schools, prisons, and
hospitals - are required to conform to the USDA dietary guidelines. I
would imagine that nursing homes would be included in this group.

So you should be guaranteed to at least get food deemed to be healthy,
though it may not be to your particular liking.

Where I live, there are some nursing/retirement homes that are run by
and for different ethnic groups, like Eastern European, Chinese, etc,
and the food in these places would be geared more towards the
preferences of the residents.

Doris

On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 3:42:40 PM UTC-7, Doris Night wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:49:25 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> >As I was fixing the tacos for our dinner tonight, I got to thinking about
>
> >this. I might go into an old folk's home. And if I do? Will the type of
>
> >food fixed for them change? I ask this because... I asked my dad if they
>
> >ever got Mexican food where he was at and he said that he did not. I have
>
> >seen some of what they get and I can say that I would not want to eat it!
>
> >
>
> >The mashed potatoes are instant. Okay, I guess I could deal with that
>
> >but... One night they served them with chicken in bottled BBQ sauce. And
>
> >what did they put over the mashed potatoes? Not gravy! You guessed it!
>
> >Additional BBQ sauce! I just can't imagine having to try to eat that!
>
> >
>
> >I don't know who is in charge of ordering the food. But I do think part of
>
> >the problem at least at his facility is that they have people working there
>
> >who do not know how to cook. One woman who is no longer there had to look
>
> >up a recipe for cupcakes on her smart phone and then was astounded that they
>
> >came out right. When we got there the other day, something smelled good..
>
> >One of the new employees was trying to make Snickerdoodles. But they did
>
> >not work. Not sure what didn't work about them. But my dad was sad because
>
> >they've always been his favorite cookie and there wasn't going to be any..
>
> >
>
> >Most of the time the food they get isn't even what I would call cooked.
>
> >Rice A Roni, frozen chicken nuggets, soup from a can, bologna sandwiches,
>
> >egg salad sandwiches, and often strange combinations. I think another part
>
> >of it is that they hire a lot of foreigners who perhaps don't know what
>
> >kinds of foods we would normally eat here. The other night, I questioned
>
> >the strange, purplish brown lump on my dad's plate. It was accompanied by
>
> >the instant mashed potatoes and a little dab of the Costco mixed frozen
>
> >vegetables that they seem to have night after night after endless night. I
>
> >was told that it was beef. And as we left, I muttered to my mom, "Beef from
>
> >what kind of animal?"
>
> >
>
> >When my friend's mom was in a nursing home, she hated the food so badly that
>
> >she begged my friend to bring her a loaf of bread an a jar of peanut butter
>
> >every week or so.
>
> >
>
> >So this just got me to thinking. I supposed part of what they are fed is
>
> >based on medical or other needs. For instance, a person with dentures or
>
> >dental problems might need soft foods. I understand the chicken nuggets
>
> >because I have read that often it is hard for seniors to use forks and
>
> >spoons and that finger food is easier for them. And most of the people
>
> >where my dad is are pretty deep into dementia so probably wouldn't even know
>
> >or remember if they were being served the same food day after day. Like the
>
> >frozen vegetables.
>
> >
>
> >But another thing! I'd be willing to bet that a lot of the people who are
>
> >in such places now were accustomed to eating different things when they were
>
> >growing up than we do now. Unless they were born in another country, they
>
> >probably didn't have Thai or Mexican or Chinese, except perhaps for whatever
>
> >faux version of a recipe was in their mom's cookbook at the time. I have
>
> >some of my parent's old cookbooks and there are recipes for Chinese things
>
> >or Italian things that bear no resemblance to the real thing.
>
> >
>
> >So... When I go into such a place (assuming that I will), I sure hope that
>
> >I don't have to eat those meals like my dad is eating now! Mostly they seem
>
> >to give them very tiny portions of things that look either pretty flavorless
>
> >or the wrong flavor. Like BBQ sauce on instant mashed potatoes. I also
>
> >love my raw veggies and they don't seem to get a lot of that. They do serve
>
> >salad from time to time but it seems like mostly just some iceberg lettuce.
>
> >I never see anything exciting like olives or some onion on there to liven it
>
> >up.
>
> >
>
> >Do you think by the time I get into one of those places (age 54 now) there
>
> >will be a demand for better food? Tastier food? More variety? Right now,
>
> >my dad thinks he doesn't like Mexican food, perhaps because he doesn't
>
> >remember it. But when I was growing up, we had Mexican food at least once a
>
> >week. Often more. We did bring him Chinese food and he wolfed it right
>
> >down like he was starved. And he loved it! My brother also brings him
>
> >Italian although it is from Olive Garden. He does like Olive Garden though.
>
> >
>
> >Yeah, I'm rambling. But also thinking ahead to my future. And I hope it
>
> >doesn't include BBQ sauce!
>
>
>
> I believe that institutions in the U.S. - schools, prisons, and
>
> hospitals - are required to conform to the USDA dietary guidelines. I
>
> would imagine that nursing homes would be included in this group.
>
>
>
> So you should be guaranteed to at least get food deemed to be healthy,
>
> though it may not be to your particular liking.
>
>
>
> Where I live, there are some nursing/retirement homes that are run by
>
> and for different ethnic groups, like Eastern European, Chinese, etc,
>
> and the food in these places would be geared more towards the
>
> preferences of the residents.
>
>
>
> Doris

This is true- when my oldest son was 13 months old, he had to go into the hospital for an extended time. I had to fill out a menu for him- I was amazed to see Spaghetti-os as an option. I asked the nurse about that, and she shrugged and said that it was something kids would eat.

On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:55:55 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote:

> I think you should stop being so lazy with your posts and focus on snipping
>
> for relevance.

SNIPPING? Surely an unknown concept .

In article > ,
Janet > wrote:

> In article >,
> lid says...
> >
> > In article >,
> > "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> >
> > > As I was fixing the tacos for our dinner tonight, I got to thinking about
> > > this. I might go into an old folk's home. And if I do? Will the type
> > > of
> > > food fixed for them change? I ask this because... I asked my dad if
> > > they
> > > ever got Mexican food where he was at and he said that he did not. I
> > > have
> > > seen some of what they get and I can say that I would not want to eat it!
> >
> > you mean your husband and daughter wouldn't take care of you?
>
> They can't cook, so how could they?
>
> Janet

well they could work extra shifts and hire a cook

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:49:25 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>As I was fixing the tacos for our dinner tonight, I got to thinking about
>>this. I might go into an old folk's home. And if I do? Will the type of
>>food fixed for them change? I ask this because... I asked my dad if they
>>ever got Mexican food where he was at and he said that he did not. I have
>>seen some of what they get and I can say that I would not want to eat it!
>>
>>The mashed potatoes are instant. Okay, I guess I could deal with that
>>but... One night they served them with chicken in bottled BBQ sauce. And
>>what did they put over the mashed potatoes? Not gravy! You guessed it!
>>Additional BBQ sauce! I just can't imagine having to try to eat that!
>>
>>I don't know who is in charge of ordering the food. But I do think part
>>of
>>the problem at least at his facility is that they have people working
>>there
>>who do not know how to cook. One woman who is no longer there had to look
>>up a recipe for cupcakes on her smart phone and then was astounded that
>>they
>>came out right. When we got there the other day, something smelled good.
>>One of the new employees was trying to make Snickerdoodles. But they did
>>not work. Not sure what didn't work about them. But my dad was sad
>>because
>>they've always been his favorite cookie and there wasn't going to be any.
>>
>>Most of the time the food they get isn't even what I would call cooked.
>>Rice A Roni, frozen chicken nuggets, soup from a can, bologna sandwiches,
>>egg salad sandwiches, and often strange combinations. I think another
>>part
>>of it is that they hire a lot of foreigners who perhaps don't know what
>>kinds of foods we would normally eat here. The other night, I questioned
>>the strange, purplish brown lump on my dad's plate. It was accompanied by
>>the instant mashed potatoes and a little dab of the Costco mixed frozen
>>vegetables that they seem to have night after night after endless night.
>>I
>>was told that it was beef. And as we left, I muttered to my mom, "Beef
>>from
>>what kind of animal?"
>>
>>When my friend's mom was in a nursing home, she hated the food so badly
>>that
>>she begged my friend to bring her a loaf of bread an a jar of peanut
>>butter
>>every week or so.
>>
>>So this just got me to thinking. I supposed part of what they are fed is
>>based on medical or other needs. For instance, a person with dentures or
>>dental problems might need soft foods. I understand the chicken nuggets
>>because I have read that often it is hard for seniors to use forks and
>>spoons and that finger food is easier for them. And most of the people
>>where my dad is are pretty deep into dementia so probably wouldn't even
>>know
>>or remember if they were being served the same food day after day. Like
>>the
>>frozen vegetables.
>>
>>But another thing! I'd be willing to bet that a lot of the people who are
>>in such places now were accustomed to eating different things when they
>>were
>>growing up than we do now. Unless they were born in another country, they
>>probably didn't have Thai or Mexican or Chinese, except perhaps for
>>whatever
>>faux version of a recipe was in their mom's cookbook at the time. I have
>>some of my parent's old cookbooks and there are recipes for Chinese things
>>or Italian things that bear no resemblance to the real thing.
>>
>>So... When I go into such a place (assuming that I will), I sure hope
>>that
>>I don't have to eat those meals like my dad is eating now! Mostly they
>>seem
>>to give them very tiny portions of things that look either pretty
>>flavorless
>>or the wrong flavor. Like BBQ sauce on instant mashed potatoes. I also
>>love my raw veggies and they don't seem to get a lot of that. They do
>>serve
>>salad from time to time but it seems like mostly just some iceberg
>>lettuce.
>>I never see anything exciting like olives or some onion on there to liven
>>it
>>up.
>>
>>Do you think by the time I get into one of those places (age 54 now) there
>>will be a demand for better food? Tastier food? More variety? Right
>>now,
>>my dad thinks he doesn't like Mexican food, perhaps because he doesn't
>>remember it. But when I was growing up, we had Mexican food at least once
>>a
>>week. Often more. We did bring him Chinese food and he wolfed it right
>>down like he was starved. And he loved it! My brother also brings him
>>Italian although it is from Olive Garden. He does like Olive Garden
>>though.
>>
>>Yeah, I'm rambling. But also thinking ahead to my future. And I hope it
>>doesn't include BBQ sauce!
>
> I believe that institutions in the U.S. - schools, prisons, and
> hospitals - are required to conform to the USDA dietary guidelines. I
> would imagine that nursing homes would be included in this group.
>
> So you should be guaranteed to at least get food deemed to be healthy,
> though it may not be to your particular liking.
>
> Where I live, there are some nursing/retirement homes that are run by
> and for different ethnic groups, like Eastern European, Chinese, etc,
> and the food in these places would be geared more towards the
> preferences of the residents.

Probably. My dad is not in a nursing home. He's in an adult family home
and they don't give food choices.

My MIL is in a nursing home in another state. They always have 2-3 food
choices for each meal. And if they don't like those things they can always
opt for a peanut butter or cheese sandwich.

merryb wrote:
> This is true- when my oldest son was 13 months old, he had to go into
> the hospital for an extended time. I had to fill out a menu for him-
> I was amazed to see Spaghetti-os as an option. I asked the nurse
> about that, and she shrugged and said that it was something kids
> would eat.

Angela was in Children's in Oakland when she had her appendix out. She was
too ill to eat much other than Popsicles. Turned out that it was not her
appendix at all but Peritonitis. Anyway... Nothing like Spaghettios there.
But they did have pizza and chicken nuggets. But they also had tons of
healthy food served in small portions. Cheese cubes, string cheese, baby
carrots, black olives, all sorts of fruit and vegetables including canned
green beans which Angela loved. Instead of ordering meals, you ordered by
the item and it was room service which could be ordered any time between
something like 9:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Hmmm... I don't think that I asked what you thought I should focus on.
>>
>> I think you should stop being so lazy with your posts and focus on
>> snipping for relevance.
>
> I didn't ask what you thought either.

No, but you have been asked by a ton of people over the years to snip your
posts, and since you are now posting that you're forgetful, possibly you
need reminding day to day. Don't bother to answer, since I am not asking
what you think about my posts either, just take it under consideration.

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> No, but you have been asked by a ton of people over the years to snip your
> posts, and since you are now posting that you're forgetful, possibly you
> need reminding day to day. Don't bother to answer, since I am not asking
> what you think about my posts either, just take it under consideration.

I'll respond where I want to. I am not the only one who doesn't always
snip. I snip sometimes. Other times I don't. And your reminding me isn't
going to help there.

On 7/30/2013 12:55 PM, Cheri wrote:

> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Hmmm... I don't think that I asked what you thought I should focus on.
>
> I think you should stop being so lazy with your posts and focus on
> snipping for relevance.
>
> Cheri

She really isn't the only one, though she posts a lot more than some
others. It's the google groupers who add the double spaced posts and
then add not snipping, and you end up with a one-line reply to a 500
line post. It's getting annoying.

--
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On Thursday, August 1, 2013 3:32:50 PM UTC-7, Cheryl wrote:

>
> She really isn't the only one, though she posts a lot more than some
> others. It's the google groupers who add the double spaced posts and
> then add not snipping, and you end up with a one-line reply to a 500
> line post. It's getting annoying.
>

The recent elimination of the old googlegroups interface made things
horrible, unless you go back in and fix everything by hand.

On 8/1/2013 12:44 PM, wrote:
> On Thursday, August 1, 2013 3:32:50 PM UTC-7, Cheryl wrote:
>
>>
>> She really isn't the only one, though she posts a lot more than some
>> others. It's the google groupers who add the double spaced posts and
>> then add not snipping, and you end up with a one-line reply to a 500
>> line post. It's getting annoying.
>>
>
> The recent elimination of the old googlegroups interface made things
> horrible, unless you go back in and fix everything by hand.
>

Google is trying to optimize GG for tablets and mobile devices. They're
not doing a very good job - it takes a while to load on my iPad and
Nexus 7 tablets - sometimes it crashes the browser. It's one big bummer.

Julie, what you can eat now probably won't be, in a large part, what you can eat in twenty or thirty years....bodies and what they can easily tolerate or process, change over time. I bet most of the people at your dad's place can't tolerate spicy food like how most Mexican food is prepared, for example. You won't know until you get there. It isn't something I would worry about.

N.

Nancy2 wrote:
> Julie, what you can eat now probably won't be, in a large part, what
> you can eat in twenty or thirty years....bodies and what they can
> easily tolerate or process, change over time. I bet most of the
> people at your dad's place can't tolerate spicy food like how most
> Mexican food is prepared, for example. You won't know until you get
> there. It isn't something I would worry about.

Not all Mexican food is spicy. What I eat isn't very spicy

But just curious. Why couldn't they tolerate spicy food? I do know of
medical problems that require a special diet but not many that would
prohibit a spicy diet.

On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 20:53:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>Nancy2 wrote:
>> Julie, what you can eat now probably won't be, in a large part, what
>> you can eat in twenty or thirty years....bodies and what they can
>> easily tolerate or process, change over time. I bet most of the
>> people at your dad's place can't tolerate spicy food like how most
>> Mexican food is prepared, for example. You won't know until you get
>> there. It isn't something I would worry about.
>
>Not all Mexican food is spicy. What I eat isn't very spicy
>
>But just curious. Why couldn't they tolerate spicy food? I do know of
>medical problems that require a special diet but not many that would
>prohibit a spicy diet.
>

Most older people I know do not like spicy foods. Many have not had
it even when young, especially in the northeast part of the country.

What my wife considers mild is at my maximum tolerance for heat. Some
of that is our heritage I'm sure. All of my grandparents are from
Poland and the hottest food was horseradish on kielbasa. If I was in
a nursing home, I'd not want Mexican food. A taco every few months is
plenty for me.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 20:53:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>Nancy2 wrote:
>>> Julie, what you can eat now probably won't be, in a large part, what
>>> you can eat in twenty or thirty years....bodies and what they can
>>> easily tolerate or process, change over time. I bet most of the
>>> people at your dad's place can't tolerate spicy food like how most
>>> Mexican food is prepared, for example. You won't know until you get
>>> there. It isn't something I would worry about.
>>
>>Not all Mexican food is spicy. What I eat isn't very spicy
>>
>>But just curious. Why couldn't they tolerate spicy food? I do know of
>>medical problems that require a special diet but not many that would
>>prohibit a spicy diet.
>>
>
> Most older people I know do not like spicy foods. Many have not had
> it even when young, especially in the northeast part of the country.
>
> What my wife considers mild is at my maximum tolerance for heat. Some
> of that is our heritage I'm sure. All of my grandparents are from
> Poland and the hottest food was horseradish on kielbasa. If I was in
> a nursing home, I'd not want Mexican food. A taco every few months is
> plenty for me.

We don't like anything even mildly spicy and never have.

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On Monday, July 29, 2013 11:17:44 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:49:25 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> As I was fixing the tacos for our dinner tonight, I got to thinking about
>
> >> this. I might go into an old folk's home. And if I do?
>
> >
>
> > Then you better bring a lot of canned beans.
>
>
>
> Thankfully Angela already knows this. We have discussed it. She will bring
>
> me beans, peanut butter and crackers or bread.
>
Maybe that's when here hatred of you will surface. She'll realize that
you've let her become fat and repulsive, and defective in a thousand other
ways, and she'll punish you by leaving you to rot in front of a plate of
instant mashed potatoes, smothered in the cheapest available BBQ sauce.

--Bryan

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...

> Most older people I know do not like spicy foods. Many have not had
> it even when young, especially in the northeast part of the country.

Hmmm... My dad is from the Midwest and he *loves* spicy food!
>
> What my wife considers mild is at my maximum tolerance for heat. Some
> of that is our heritage I'm sure. All of my grandparents are from
> Poland and the hottest food was horseradish on kielbasa. If I was in
> a nursing home, I'd not want Mexican food. A taco every few months is
> plenty for me.

Oh wow. I'd be Jonesing if I only got one every few months. And the tacos
I eat aren't spicy.