On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 6:12:33 AM UTC-5, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
>
> says...
>
> >
>
>
>
> > If you are worried about what daddy eats, bring him home to live with you and then you'll have another picky eater, possibly, to post about.
>
>
>
> Coming soon; Daddybove escapes into the garden, turns feral and
>
> lives under the porch, telling Angela he prefers catfood to beans,
>
> beans, beans. Angela starts new diet of canned fish and kittykibble.
>
In this scenario, does Angela get spayed? Oh, please tell me she does.
>
> Janet UK

--Bryan

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> We don't like anything even mildly spicy and never have.

Hmmm... I grew up eating spaghetti red and that's pretty spicy! Although
my mom wasn't really big on seasononings, she did use a lot of chili powder.
Spaghetti red is just pasta in tomato sauce with ground beef and lots of
added chili powder. Apparently it is traditionally served with spaghetti
but in our house we only ever had it with macaroni. We also had brick chili
a lot in Wichita. It was the makings for chili frozen into a brick-like
shape. I haven't had it for so many years, I can't recall what all you had
to put in it. Perhaps the meat and/or beans.

On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 6:12:33 AM UTC-5, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
>
> says...
>
> >
>
>
>
> > If you are worried about what daddy eats, bring him home to live with you and then you'll have another picky eater, possibly, to post about.
>
>
>
> Coming soon; Daddybove escapes into the garden, turns feral and
>
> lives under the porch, telling Angela he prefers catfood to beans,
>
> beans, beans. Angela starts new diet of canned fish and kittykibble.
>
In your scenario, does Angela get spayed. Oh, please tell me she does.
>
> Janet UK

--Bryan

On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:43:22 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> >
>
> > No, but you have been asked by a ton of people over the years to snip your
>
> > posts, and since you are now posting that you're forgetful, possibly you
>
> > need reminding day to day. Don't bother to answer, since I am not asking
>
> > what you think about my posts either, just take it under consideration.
>
She's lazy and stupid.
>
> I'll respond where I want to. I am not the only one who doesn't always
>
> snip. I snip sometimes. Other times I don't. And your reminding me isn't
>
> going to help there.

What needs to be snipped are Angela's fallopian tubes.

--Bryan

On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 5:26:02 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I had my horoscope done when I was 12 and it said I would die in middle age.

In this case, it's sad that astrology is pure bunkum.

--Bryan

On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:42:31 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
>
> I wish a very painful old age for you.
>
I'm impressed.

--Bryan

"Julie Bove" > wrote in news:ktfa3m$6mg$1@dont-
email.me:

> Nancy2 wrote:
>> Julie, what you can eat now probably won't be, in a large part, what
>> you can eat in twenty or thirty years....bodies and what they can
>> easily tolerate or process, change over time. I bet most of the
>> people at your dad's place can't tolerate spicy food like how most
>> Mexican food is prepared, for example. You won't know until you get
>> there. It isn't something I would worry about.
>
> Not all Mexican food is spicy. What I eat isn't very spicy
>
> But just curious. Why couldn't they tolerate spicy food? I do know of
> medical problems that require a special diet but not many that would
> prohibit a spicy diet.
>
>
>
I'm 78 and like somewhat spicy foods. I love burritos - I usually use
Jalapeno flavored refried beens, cheese & meat - usually leftover
chicken.


--
"Where there's smoke there's toast!" Anon

On 8/1/2013 5:53 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Not all Mexican food is spicy. What I eat isn't very spicy
>
> But just curious. Why couldn't they tolerate spicy food? I do know of
> medical problems that require a special diet but not many that would
> prohibit a spicy diet.
>
>

That's a good question. I don't know. What I do know is that older
people like bland, soft, food. The soft part probably has to do with
problems with teeth and chewing. About 70% of the old folks around here
eat the same thing for breakfast - oatmeal and papaya. Why people
gravitate around these two foods is a mystery. What this all means is
that oatmeal is going to be a very popular food item in the future.

Old folks also tend to suffer from a general loss of appetite and
keeping weight on is usually a problem at an advanced age.

On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 05:45:20 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 20:53:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>>Nancy2 wrote:
>>> Julie, what you can eat now probably won't be, in a large part, what
>>> you can eat in twenty or thirty years....bodies and what they can
>>> easily tolerate or process, change over time. I bet most of the
>>> people at your dad's place can't tolerate spicy food like how most
>>> Mexican food is prepared, for example. You won't know until you get
>>> there. It isn't something I would worry about.
>>
>>Not all Mexican food is spicy. What I eat isn't very spicy
>>
>>But just curious. Why couldn't they tolerate spicy food? I do know of
>>medical problems that require a special diet but not many that would
>>prohibit a spicy diet.
>>
>
>Most older people I know do not like spicy foods. Many have not had
>it even when young, especially in the northeast part of the country.
>
>What my wife considers mild is at my maximum tolerance for heat. Some
>of that is our heritage I'm sure. All of my grandparents are from
>Poland and the hottest food was horseradish on kielbasa. If I was in
>a nursing home, I'd not want Mexican food. A taco every few months is
>plenty for me.

You'd probably like real Mexican food... real Mexican cusine is not
that border town tex mex crap, they dine on a lot of fresh seafood and
produce. In most of Mexico you'd be hard pressed to find a bowl of
chili on a menu unless you stay at a gringo hotel... if you vacation
at the Sheraton and its ilk then you may as well have stayed home.

On Fri, 2 Aug 2013 10:59:42 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

As folks age many develop digestive/alimentary issues so can no longer
tolerate very spicey hot foods. When I was young I could eat spicey
hot like I had a cast iron stomach... now I still like spicey hot but
spicey hot doesn't like me... I apply spicey hot very judiciously. I
can eat hot mustard and horseradish like it's going out of style but
not hot pepper.

On Fri, 2 Aug 2013 09:45:43 -0500, barbie gee >
wrote:

>
>
>On Thu, 1 Aug 2013, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Nancy2 wrote:
>>> Julie, what you can eat now probably won't be, in a large part, what
>>> you can eat in twenty or thirty years....bodies and what they can
>>> easily tolerate or process, change over time. I bet most of the
>>> people at your dad's place can't tolerate spicy food like how most
>>> Mexican food is prepared, for example. You won't know until you get
>>> there. It isn't something I would worry about.
>>
>> Not all Mexican food is spicy. What I eat isn't very spicy
>>
>> But just curious. Why couldn't they tolerate spicy food? I do know of
>> medical problems that require a special diet but not many that would
>> prohibit a spicy diet.
>
>GERD, for starters.

Hemorrhoids for enders.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 2 Aug 2013 10:59:42 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
> As folks age many develop digestive/alimentary issues so can no longer
> tolerate very spicey hot foods. When I was young I could eat spicey
> hot like I had a cast iron stomach... now I still like spicey hot but
> spicey hot doesn't like me... I apply spicey hot very judiciously. I
> can eat hot mustard and horseradish like it's going out of style but
> not hot pepper.

Err I didn't write the above

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http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

Intolerances of spicy foods (and some other foods) sometimes increase with age. It is changes in one's body and how it works, not what people are used to so much.

N.

On 8/2/2013 2:58 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

>
> You'd probably like real Mexican food... real Mexican cusine is not
> that border town tex mex crap, they dine on a lot of fresh seafood and
> produce. In most of Mexico you'd be hard pressed to find a bowl of
> chili on a menu unless you stay at a gringo hotel... if you vacation
> at the Sheraton and its ilk then you may as well have stayed home.
>
You are right

, It has been years since
we've been to Mexico but the food was not memorable at the time. I'd do
it differently today.

"barbie gee" > wrote in message
hcrg.pbz...
>
> GERD, for starters.

Nonsense! I have GERD. Spicy food is not a problem.

On 8/2/2013 9:29 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> Err I didn't write the above
>


At least I hope you wrote it... Misattribution, along with not fessing
up to it seems to be running rampant these days. I expect this to
increase along with the resulting hilarity to follow. :-)

On 8/2/2013 4:45 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> Most older people I know do not like spicy foods. Many have not had
> it even when young, especially in the northeast part of the country.
>
> What my wife considers mild is at my maximum tolerance for heat. Some
> of that is our heritage I'm sure. All of my grandparents are from
> Poland and the hottest food was horseradish on kielbasa. If I was in
> a nursing home, I'd not want Mexican food. A taco every few months is
> plenty for me.

You are right, for the majority of people. As children, we were exposed
to spicy food, but I still can not eat as many jalapenos as my mother,
she really likes it hot. My husband made head cheese and gave some to my
mother, she liked it but wished it was spicier. Everything doesn't have
to be spicy.

Becca

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/2/2013 9:29 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> Err I didn't write the above
>>
>
>
> At least I hope you wrote it... Misattribution, along with not fessing up
> to it seems to be running rampant these days. I expect this to increase
> along with the resulting hilarity to follow. :-)

yers ...

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On Friday, August 2, 2013 5:41:53 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> "barbie gee" > wrote in message
>
> hcrg.pbz...
>
> >
>
> > GERD, for starters.
>
>
>
> Nonsense! I have GERD. Spicy food is not a problem.

Of course you do! Listen, ****. Spicy food IS a problem with untreated GERD. YOU are a hypochondriac or perhaps just a liar.

> wrote in message
...
> On Friday, August 2, 2013 5:41:53 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "barbie gee" > wrote in message
>>
>> hcrg.pbz...
>>
>> >
>>
>> > GERD, for starters.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nonsense! I have GERD. Spicy food is not a problem.
>
> Of course you do! Listen, ****. Spicy food IS a problem with untreated
> GERD. YOU are a hypochondriac or perhaps just a liar.

I know plenty of people with GERD. It's a very individual thing as to what
might set it off. For me, it can be chocolate. I know others who can't
have tomatoes, peppers or onions. All are fine for me.

On Friday, August 2, 2013 6:25:47 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On Friday, August 2, 2013 5:41:53 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >> "barbie gee" > wrote in message
>
> >>
>
> >> hcrg.pbz...
>
> >>
>
> >> >
>
> >>
>
> >> > GERD, for starters.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> Nonsense! I have GERD. Spicy food is not a problem.
>
> >
>
> > Of course you do! Listen, ****. Spicy food IS a problem with untreated
>
> > GERD. YOU are a hypochondriac or perhaps just a liar.
>
>
>
> I know plenty of people with GERD. It's a very individual thing as to what
>
> might set it off. For me, it can be chocolate. I know others who can't
>
> have tomatoes, peppers or onions. All are fine for me.

It's "a very individual thing" but "spicy food is not a problem"? Did you have a head injury lately? Google it and you'll find that most people who ACTUALLY have GERD (and not just a craving for attention) are bothered by spicy food. Not only is it an observed fact, it makes sense to anyone who's not...slow. I have suffered from it for over 30 years. I can tell you first hand - it hurts very much when I eat spicy food and don't treat the condition. Prilosec takes care of that.

You have a pathological relationship with food. Actually worse than a simple eating disorder. You're passing it on to your obese daughter. I know you're depressed because you married a pig-man, but try to give your daughter a chance to be normal.

wrote:
> On Friday, August 2, 2013 6:25:47 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> On Friday, August 2, 2013 5:41:53 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>>> "barbie gee" > wrote in message
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> hcrg.pbz...
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>> GERD, for starters.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Nonsense! I have GERD. Spicy food is not a problem.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Of course you do! Listen, ****. Spicy food IS a problem with
>>> untreated
>>
>>> GERD. YOU are a hypochondriac or perhaps just a liar.
>>
>>
>>
>> I know plenty of people with GERD. It's a very individual thing as
>> to what
>>
>> might set it off. For me, it can be chocolate. I know others who
>> can't
>>
>> have tomatoes, peppers or onions. All are fine for me.
>
> It's "a very individual thing" but "spicy food is not a problem"? Did
> you have a head injury lately? Google it and you'll find that most
> people who ACTUALLY have GERD (and not just a craving for attention)
> are bothered by spicy food. Not only is it an observed fact, it makes
> sense to anyone who's not...slow. I have suffered from it for over 30
> years. I can tell you first hand - it hurts very much when I eat
> spicy food and don't treat the condition. Prilosec takes care of
> that.

I don't know that *most* people do. I was given a list of foods when I was
diagnosed with it. I don't recall spicy foods being on it. As I said, for
me the only food that has ever caused pain is chocolate. And that was in
the past. I seem to be able to eat it now with no problems.

I can not take any of the normal GERD meds. For me, they cause GERD
symptoms that I did not have before. Had I not been diagnosed with it, I
never would have known that I had it because I had no symoptoms. The meds
also caused severe migraines.
>
> You have a pathological relationship with food. Actually worse than a
> simple eating disorder. You're passing it on to your obese daughter.
> I know you're depressed because you married a pig-man, but try to
> give your daughter a chance to be normal.

What's your excuse? You are just rude and mean to everyone.

wrote:
> It's "a very individual thing" but "spicy food is not a problem"? Did
> you have a head injury lately? Google it and you'll find that most
> people who ACTUALLY have GERD (and not just a craving for attention)
> are bothered by spicy food. Not only is it an observed fact, it makes
> sense to anyone who's not...slow. I have suffered from it for over 30
> years. I can tell you first hand - it hurts very much when I eat
> spicy food and don't treat the condition. Prilosec takes care of
> that.
>
> You have a pathological relationship with food. Actually worse than a
> simple eating disorder. You're passing it on to your obese daughter.
> I know you're depressed because you married a pig-man, but try to
> give your daughter a chance to be normal.

I did just look it up. Although spicy food may be a problem for you, it
certainly isn't for everyone.

http://www.webmd.com/heartburn-gerd/...-9/spicy-foods

On Friday, August 2, 2013 7:00:43 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> wrote:
>
> > It's "a very individual thing" but "spicy food is not a problem"? Did
>
> > you have a head injury lately? Google it and you'll find that most
>
> > people who ACTUALLY have GERD (and not just a craving for attention)
>
> > are bothered by spicy food. Not only is it an observed fact, it makes
>
> > sense to anyone who's not...slow. I have suffered from it for over 30
>
> > years. I can tell you first hand - it hurts very much when I eat
>
> > spicy food and don't treat the condition. Prilosec takes care of
>
> > that.
>
> >
>
> > You have a pathological relationship with food. Actually worse than a
>
> > simple eating disorder. You're passing it on to your obese daughter.
>
> > I know you're depressed because you married a pig-man, but try to
>
> > give your daughter a chance to be normal.
>
>
>
> I did just look it up. Although spicy food may be a problem for you, it
>
> certainly isn't for everyone.
>
>
>
> http://www.webmd.com/heartburn-gerd/...-9/spicy-foods

I'll point you back to your previous post:

"Nonsense! I have GERD. Spicy food is not a problem".

That is just untrue and you would know that if you truly had it. Granted, not everyone who is diagnosed with GERD has a problem with spicy foods. That's probably because a lot of people diagnosed with it don't really have it. You say you were diagnosed with it, yet you seem to not have any of the typical symptoms. Just like you claim to have been diagnosed with all kinds of maladies.

Don't make blanket statements when you don't know what you are talking about. A little bit of tobasco may not bother you, but it does bother millions of others with GERD.

wrote:
> I'll point you back to your previous post:
>
> "Nonsense! I have GERD. Spicy food is not a problem".
>
> That is just untrue and you would know that if you truly had it.
> Granted, not everyone who is diagnosed with GERD has a problem with
> spicy foods. That's probably because a lot of people diagnosed with
> it don't really have it. You say you were diagnosed with it, yet you
> seem to not have any of the typical symptoms. Just like you claim to
> have been diagnosed with all kinds of maladies.

Actually some people have GERD and no symptoms or none that they relate to
it. I did have symptoms for all of my life but my mom kept telling me that
they were allergies. The symptom being my frequent throat clearing. Turns
out that the reason I was doing that was to clear out the bile that was
coming up. It didn't have a burning feeling and I did not otherwise notice
it.

I did have what I thought was heart pain once following being forced to eat
pepperoni which I hate. I was probably around 12 or 13 at the time. We
were camping and had gone hiking after eating. I stopped and clutched at my
chest, complaining of pain and telling my mom that I thought I was having a
heart attack. She just laughed it off and said that it was heartburn. I
guess I will never know what it was because she never took me to the Dr. for
it but the pain was directly where my heart is.

As an adult, I would notice at times when I bent over that I could taste
bile coming up. There was never any burning feeling or anything like that.

The other symptom I have that I did not relate is my voice. It has been
described as husky or raspy. I just assumed that came about from 27 years
of smoking but the Dr. said it was caused by the GERD. He said he could
tell right away from my voice that I had it.

The GERD was confirmed when he did an Endoscopy to look for Gastroparesis
which I also have. That in and of itself usually causes GERD. But the Dr.
surmised that I likely had the GERD for most to all of my life. I now have
Barrett's Esophogus.

I never suspected it at all because the people I know who have it would
describe very painful symptoms to me. Since then I have had a few such
attacks. Usually following the eating of dark chocolate which I have given
up. And on a few occasions, I have awakened, choking on the bile and having
a difficult time breathing because of it. But I can not relate those
incidents to any certain food or any certain amount of food. From what I
have read, eating large amounts of food can cause this too, regardless of
the food eaten.

> Don't make blanket statements when you don't know what you are
> talking about. A little bit of tobasco may not bother you, but it
> does bother millions of others with GERD.

I'm not the one who made the blanket statement. The person who said that
people with GERD can't eat spicy food is the one who did that. I was not
told to avoid spicy food. As for tabasco, I do not keep the regular kind in
the house, nor have I ever eaten it AFAIK. Does not look appealing to me.
I do have the Jalapeno kind and I can eat that with no problem. I do not
normally make spicy food for myself because I don't like a lot of heat. But
once in awhile I will make something too spicy or get it that way in a
restaurant. It has never caused heartburn. Never.

I also remember some years ago, my dad being told to avoid spicy food. But
then some years later, he was told that it was old advice and if he found
that spicy food did not bother him, he could eat it. And it doesn't bother
him. I also go to his Dr.

On 03/08/2013 11:14 AM, barbie gee wrote:
>
does bother millions of others with GERD.
>>
>> I'm not the one who made the blanket statement. The person who said that
>> people with GERD can't eat spicy food is the one who did that.
> <snip>
>
> sigh.
>
> If you don't want people jumping on you all the time for saying stupid
> things, please just take the time to QUALIFY your statements with "in my
> experience", or "in my opinion". That you treat all your personal
> experiences (anecdotal evidence) as if they were the experiences of the
> whole world, and therefore the ONLY data that matters is maddening.
> That's why people give you shit ALL THE TIME.
>


You seem not to understand Bovine. She lives for the abuse. I don't
think that there is much doubt that she says dumb things because she
wants people to respond to her. She craves the attention.

In article >,
"Ophelia" > wrote:

> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 2 Aug 2013 10:59:42 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > As folks age many develop digestive/alimentary issues so can no longer
> > tolerate very spicey hot foods. When I was young I could eat spicey
> > hot like I had a cast iron stomach... now I still like spicey hot but
> > spicey hot doesn't like me... I apply spicey hot very judiciously. I
> > can eat hot mustard and horseradish like it's going out of style but
> > not hot pepper.
>
> Err I didn't write the above

Nobody says you did.

--
Michael Press

In article >,
dsi1 > wrote:

> On 8/2/2013 9:29 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > Err I didn't write the above
> >
>
>
> At least I hope you wrote it... Misattribution, along with not fessing
> up to it seems to be running rampant these days. I expect this to
> increase along with the resulting hilarity to follow. :-)

There was no misattribution.

--
Michael Press

"barbie gee" > wrote in message
crg.pbz...
>
>
> On Fri, 2 Aug 2013, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>
>> "barbie gee" > wrote in message
>> hcrg.pbz...
>>>
>>> GERD, for starters.
>>
>> Nonsense! I have GERD. Spicy food is not a problem.
>>
>
> Stop taking any and all of your GERD related meds, and then get back to
> us.

I don't TAKE GERD meds!

"barbie gee" > wrote in message
crg.pbz...
>
>
> On Fri, 2 Aug 2013, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I can not take any of the normal GERD meds. For me, they cause GERD
>> symptoms that I did not have before. Had I not been diagnosed with it, I
>> never would have known that I had it because I had no symoptoms. The
>> meds
>> also caused severe migraines.
>
>
> So you were diagnosed how? endoScoped for some other reason?

Yes. For Gastroparesis. That's how it was confirmed. I have Barrett's
Espophogus too.

"barbie gee" > wrote in message
crg.pbz...
>
>
> On Fri, 2 Aug 2013, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>> I'll point you back to your previous post:
>>>
>>> "Nonsense! I have GERD. Spicy food is not a problem".
>>>
>>> That is just untrue and you would know that if you truly had it.
>>> Granted, not everyone who is diagnosed with GERD has a problem with
>>> spicy foods. That's probably because a lot of people diagnosed with
>>> it don't really have it. You say you were diagnosed with it, yet you
>>> seem to not have any of the typical symptoms. Just like you claim to
>>> have been diagnosed with all kinds of maladies.
>>
>> Actually some people have GERD and no symptoms or none that they relate
>> to
>> it. I did have symptoms for all of my life but my mom kept telling me
>> that
>> they were allergies. The symptom being my frequent throat clearing.
>> Turns
>> out that the reason I was doing that was to clear out the bile that was
>> coming up. It didn't have a burning feeling and I did not otherwise
>> notice
>> it.
>>
>> I did have what I thought was heart pain once following being forced to
>> eat
>> pepperoni which I hate. I was probably around 12 or 13 at the time. We
>> were camping and had gone hiking after eating. I stopped and clutched at
>> my
>> chest, complaining of pain and telling my mom that I thought I was having
>> a
>> heart attack. She just laughed it off and said that it was heartburn. I
>> guess I will never know what it was because she never took me to the Dr.
>> for
>> it but the pain was directly where my heart is.
>>
>> As an adult, I would notice at times when I bent over that I could taste
>> bile coming up. There was never any burning feeling or anything like
>> that.
>>
>> The other symptom I have that I did not relate is my voice. It has been
>> described as husky or raspy. I just assumed that came about from 27
>> years
>> of smoking but the Dr. said it was caused by the GERD. He said he could
>> tell right away from my voice that I had it.
>>
>> The GERD was confirmed when he did an Endoscopy to look for Gastroparesis
>> which I also have. That in and of itself usually causes GERD. But the
>> Dr.
>> surmised that I likely had the GERD for most to all of my life. I now
>> have
>> Barrett's Esophogus.
>>
>> I never suspected it at all because the people I know who have it would
>> describe very painful symptoms to me. Since then I have had a few such
>> attacks. Usually following the eating of dark chocolate which I have
>> given
>> up. And on a few occasions, I have awakened, choking on the bile and
>> having
>> a difficult time breathing because of it. But I can not relate those
>> incidents to any certain food or any certain amount of food. From what I
>> have read, eating large amounts of food can cause this too, regardless of
>> the food eaten.
>>
>>> Don't make blanket statements when you don't know what you are
>>> talking about. A little bit of tobasco may not bother you, but it
>>> does bother millions of others with GERD.
>>
>> I'm not the one who made the blanket statement. The person who said that
>> people with GERD can't eat spicy food is the one who did that.
> <snip>
>
> sigh.
>
> If you don't want people jumping on you all the time for saying stupid
> things, please just take the time to QUALIFY your statements with "in my
> experience", or "in my opinion". That you treat all your personal
> experiences (anecdotal evidence) as if they were the experiences of the
> whole world, and therefore the ONLY data that matters is maddening. That's
> why people give you shit ALL THE TIME.
>
> Your QED is broken.

People *don't* give me shit all the time. Just a few here do. And I did
post a link. It is not standard advice any more to tell people to avoid any
sort of food. They have found that diet plays a lot less into GERD than was
once though.

You didn't qualify your statement either. You said people with GERD can't
have spicy foods.

"barbie gee" > wrote in message
crg.pbz...
>
>
> On Fri, 2 Aug 2013, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>> I'll point you back to your previous post:
>>>
>>> "Nonsense! I have GERD. Spicy food is not a problem".
>>>
>>> That is just untrue and you would know that if you truly had it.
>>> Granted, not everyone who is diagnosed with GERD has a problem with
>>> spicy foods. That's probably because a lot of people diagnosed with
>>> it don't really have it. You say you were diagnosed with it, yet you
>>> seem to not have any of the typical symptoms. Just like you claim to
>>> have been diagnosed with all kinds of maladies.
>>
>> Actually some people have GERD and no symptoms or none that they relate
>> to
>> it. I did have symptoms for all of my life but my mom kept telling me
>> that
>> they were allergies. The symptom being my frequent throat clearing.
>> Turns
>> out that the reason I was doing that was to clear out the bile that was
>> coming up. It didn't have a burning feeling and I did not otherwise
>> notice
>> it.
>>
>> I did have what I thought was heart pain once following being forced to
>> eat
>> pepperoni which I hate. I was probably around 12 or 13 at the time. We
>
> pepperoni = greasy AND spicy!
>
> so which was it, the spicy or the greasy that gave you GERDy symptoms?

Or the fact that it was meat. I eat very little meat and very little greasy
foods. Both sit in my stomach like a lead weight. Again, I was 12 or 13.
I am 54 now. That is the *only* time I have ever had a symptom like that.
So really, no worries there.

On 8/3/2013 10:24 AM, Michael Press wrote:
> In article >,
> dsi1 > wrote:
>
>> On 8/2/2013 9:29 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> Err I didn't write the above
>>>
>>
>>
>> At least I hope you wrote it... Misattribution, along with not fessing
>> up to it seems to be running rampant these days. I expect this to
>> increase along with the resulting hilarity to follow. :-)
>
> There was no misattribution.
>

My guess is that you have no idea what I was referring to. Better luck
next time.

On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 13:46:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"barbie gee" > wrote in message
hcrg.pbz...
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 2 Aug 2013, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> I can not take any of the normal GERD meds. For me, they cause GERD
>>> symptoms that I did not have before. Had I not been diagnosed with it, I
>>> never would have known that I had it because I had no symoptoms. The
>>> meds
>>> also caused severe migraines.
>>
>>
>> So you were diagnosed how? endoScoped for some other reason?
>
>Yes. For Gastroparesis. That's how it was confirmed. I have Barrett's
>Espophogus too.

Hah! Deep throat! How'd I know that... hehe

In article >,
dsi1 > wrote:

> On 8/3/2013 10:24 AM, Michael Press wrote:
> > In article >,
> > dsi1 > wrote:
> >
> >> On 8/2/2013 9:29 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Err I didn't write the above
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> At least I hope you wrote it... Misattribution, along with not fessing
> >> up to it seems to be running rampant these days. I expect this to
> >> increase along with the resulting hilarity to follow. :-)
> >
> > There was no misattribution.
> >
>
> My guess is that you have no idea what I was referring to. Better luck
> next time.

You do not know what I referred to. No guessing.

--
Michael Press

barbie gee wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 1 Aug 2013, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Nancy2 wrote:
>>> Julie, what you can eat now probably won't be, in a large part, what
>>> you can eat in twenty or thirty years....bodies and what they can
>>> easily tolerate or process, change over time. I bet most of the
>>> people at your dad's place can't tolerate spicy food like how most
>>> Mexican food is prepared, for example. You won't know until you get
>>> there. It isn't something I would worry about.
>>
>> Not all Mexican food is spicy. What I eat isn't very spicy
>>
>> But just curious. Why couldn't they tolerate spicy food? I do know of
>> medical problems that require a special diet but not many that would
>> prohibit a spicy diet.
>
> GERD, for starters.

Maybe. I have GERD, and I do eat spicy food. I do try not to eat
it later in the day though, and I cut off all eating hours before
I head off to bed.

I wonder how nursing homes, ALFs, etc. can satisfy all of their
inhabitants. I don't like bland food. I would want some spicy
food, and I certainly would want flavorful food.

--
Jean B.

dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/1/2013 5:53 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> Not all Mexican food is spicy. What I eat isn't very spicy
>>
>> But just curious. Why couldn't they tolerate spicy food? I do know of
>> medical problems that require a special diet but not many that would
>> prohibit a spicy diet.
>>
>>
>
> That's a good question. I don't know. What I do know is that older
> people like bland, soft, food. The soft part probably has to do with
> problems with teeth and chewing. About 70% of the old folks around here
> eat the same thing for breakfast - oatmeal and papaya. Why people
> gravitate around these two foods is a mystery. What this all means is
> that oatmeal is going to be a very popular food item in the future.
>
> Old folks also tend to suffer from a general loss of appetite and
> keeping weight on is usually a problem at an advanced age.

The bland part sounds stereotypical to me. And I sure hope I am
never ANYWHERE where I am expected to eat oatmeal. That would
cause a serious loss of appetite.

--
Jean B.

On 2013-07-30, Sqwertz > wrote:

> is, will anybody listen to you?

Who gives a rat's ass? Bove is already brain dead..

The bottom line for seniors, getting them to eat ....anything!!

One of my biggest probs is getting my mother to eat. I got her breaky
down. Eats it all, but lunch and dinner are something else. She may
be going into a home jes so she will get fed properly, a chore the
local home has down to a science, unlike myself.

nb

On 8/2/2013 6:47 AM, Vegan Earthworm Holocaust wrote:

>>
> In this scenario, does Angela get spayed? Oh, please tell me she does.
>>
>> Janet UK
>

Now that's funny!

On 7/29/2013 11:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote:


What?