On 5/13/2013 6:25 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> Helpful person wrote:
>>
>> Like most items, there is a large difference in quality from different
>> suppliers. Obviously Costco does not buy the best quality. (In my
>> limited experience true for many items.)
>>
>> For the naysayers, there is an enormous difference between top quality
>> spices and supermarket spices. Try buying some Tellicherry pepper
>> from Penzeys and you will notice the difference. There is more "snap"
>> to the flavor and there are aromatics you don't get with most other
>> pepper.
>>
>> I would expect whole peppercorns to last longer than two years if
>> properly sealed and kept in the dark. It will lose a little but not
>> enough to throw it out.
>>
> I have only used this new stuff a few times but it doesn't seem to have much
> of a bite to it at all. I have never ordered from Penzy's and probably
> wouldn't. I do order from Great American Spice. I will try some of their
> pepper the next time I buy from them.
>
>
But... you're the online food ordering queen! Why wouldn't you order
from Penzeys? They have wonderful herbs and spices.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/13/2013 6:25 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> Helpful person wrote:
>>>
>>> Like most items, there is a large difference in quality from different
>>> suppliers. Obviously Costco does not buy the best quality. (In my
>>> limited experience true for many items.)
>>>
>>> For the naysayers, there is an enormous difference between top quality
>>> spices and supermarket spices. Try buying some Tellicherry pepper
>>> from Penzeys and you will notice the difference. There is more "snap"
>>> to the flavor and there are aromatics you don't get with most other
>>> pepper.
>>>
>>> I would expect whole peppercorns to last longer than two years if
>>> properly sealed and kept in the dark. It will lose a little but not
>>> enough to throw it out.
>>>
>> I have only used this new stuff a few times but it doesn't seem to have
>> much
>> of a bite to it at all. I have never ordered from Penzy's and probably
>> wouldn't. I do order from Great American Spice. I will try some of
>> their
>> pepper the next time I buy from them.
>>
>>
> But... you're the online food ordering queen! Why wouldn't you order from
> Penzeys? They have wonderful herbs and spices.
>
> Jill


I like My Spice Sage. They usually have a freebie with orders over 25.00 and
no shipping fees for any amount over 10.00 they do have a small fee of 3.00
if ordering less than 10.00, but really, who would? They ship really fast,
and the quality is good.

Cheri

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/13/2013 6:25 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> Helpful person wrote:
>>>
>>> Like most items, there is a large difference in quality from different
>>> suppliers. Obviously Costco does not buy the best quality. (In my
>>> limited experience true for many items.)
>>>
>>> For the naysayers, there is an enormous difference between top quality
>>> spices and supermarket spices. Try buying some Tellicherry pepper
>>> from Penzeys and you will notice the difference. There is more "snap"
>>> to the flavor and there are aromatics you don't get with most other
>>> pepper.
>>>
>>> I would expect whole peppercorns to last longer than two years if
>>> properly sealed and kept in the dark. It will lose a little but not
>>> enough to throw it out.
>>>
>> I have only used this new stuff a few times but it doesn't seem to have
>> much
>> of a bite to it at all. I have never ordered from Penzy's and probably
>> wouldn't. I do order from Great American Spice. I will try some of
>> their
>> pepper the next time I buy from them.
>>
>>
> But... you're the online food ordering queen! Why wouldn't you order from
> Penzeys? They have wonderful herbs and spices.

I looked at their website and their stuff didn't impress me. I like
American Spice. I'll stick with them.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
> I like My Spice Sage. They usually have a freebie with orders over 25.00
> and no shipping fees for any amount over 10.00 they do have a small fee of
> 3.00 if ordering less than 10.00, but really, who would? They ship really
> fast, and the quality is good.

American Spice also offers free shipping but I can't remember over what
dollar amount. I also get my popcorn oil from them but they stopped
carrying the Yoder's and that was my favorite. I think they went out of
business.

On May 15, 10:08*am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
> > But... you're the online food ordering queen! *Why wouldn't you order from
> > Penzeys? *They have wonderful herbs and spices.
>
> I looked at their website and their stuff didn't impress me. *I like
> American Spice. *I'll stick with them.

Penzeys is generally accepted as the best. Didn't like them without
even trying. Very American (or childish).

http://www.richardfisher.com

On 5/15/2013 12:27 PM, Helpful person wrote:
> On May 15, 10:08 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>
>>> But... you're the online food ordering queen! Why wouldn't you order from
>>> Penzeys? They have wonderful herbs and spices.
>>
>> I looked at their website and their stuff didn't impress me. I like
>> American Spice. I'll stick with them.
>
> Penzeys is generally accepted as the best. Didn't like them without
> even trying. Very American (or childish).
>
Hey, don't drag America into this! This is a Julie-ism. We're talking
to someone who bought threw out peppercorns (probably improperly stored)
based on a random expiration date. She bought pepper at Costco,
complained about it, later said it was okay and blamed it on old
peppercorns left in the grinder (which at first she apparently liked,
until she replaced them). Don't try to figure this out. You'll give
yourself a headache.

Jill

"Helpful person" > wrote in message
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On May 15, 10:08 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
> > But... you're the online food ordering queen! Why wouldn't you order
> > from
> > Penzeys? They have wonderful herbs and spices.
>
> I looked at their website and their stuff didn't impress me. I like
> American Spice. I'll stick with them.

Penzeys is generally accepted as the best. Didn't like them without
even trying. Very American (or childish).

http://www.richardfisher.com

==========

No reason not to stick with what you like. What I like is generally accepted
as the best to me. YMMV

Cheri

On Wed, 15 May 2013 09:27:13 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> wrote:

> On May 15, 10:08*am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> >
> > > But... you're the online food ordering queen! *Why wouldn't you order from
> > > Penzeys? *They have wonderful herbs and spices.
> >
> > I looked at their website and their stuff didn't impress me. *I like
> > American Spice. *I'll stick with them.
>
> Penzeys is generally accepted as the best. Didn't like them without
> even trying. Very American (or childish).
>

Penzy's mail order is okay for sheeple who may not know about any
other option. If those who live in a metropolitan area (where it's
easy enough to find high quality herb and spices) still choose to shop
there, then fine... but don't pretend it's the only game in town.


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Helpful person wrote:
> On May 15, 10:08 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>
>>> But... you're the online food ordering queen! Why wouldn't you
>>> order from Penzeys? They have wonderful herbs and spices.
>>
>> I looked at their website and their stuff didn't impress me. I like
>> American Spice. I'll stick with them.
>
> Penzeys is generally accepted as the best. Didn't like them without
> even trying. Very American (or childish).
>
> http://www.richardfisher.com

They didn't impress me from their website and I disliked some of their mixes
due to addititves. Not childless at all. Dunno if it's American or not but
don't care.

jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/15/2013 12:27 PM, Helpful person wrote:
>> On May 15, 10:08 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> But... you're the online food ordering queen! Why wouldn't you
>>>> order from Penzeys? They have wonderful herbs and spices.
>>>
>>> I looked at their website and their stuff didn't impress me. I like
>>> American Spice. I'll stick with them.
>>
>> Penzeys is generally accepted as the best. Didn't like them without
>> even trying. Very American (or childish).
>>
> Hey, don't drag America into this! This is a Julie-ism. We're
> talking to someone who bought threw out peppercorns (probably
> improperly stored) based on a random expiration date. She bought
> pepper at Costco, complained about it, later said it was okay and
> blamed it on old peppercorns left in the grinder (which at first she
> apparently liked, until she replaced them). Don't try to figure this
> out. You'll give yourself a headache.

I didn't throw them out based on a random date. The date only confirmed
what I alread suspected. They had lost their potency. I did say that I
found myself having to use so much to get the flavor that I wanted that the
ending dish was gritty!

I don't know for sure what the issue with the new peppercorns was. They
*do* look different but when I looked up pics of them, they look like what
they should. I only know that the first couple of times after I filled the
grinder, the pepper was different. That's why I asked here. There is no
way I could be certain of anything here other than that I bought both
containers of pepper at Costco and both were Tellicherry.

Cheri wrote:
> "Helpful person" > wrote in message
> ...
> On May 15, 10:08 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>
>>> But... you're the online food ordering queen! Why wouldn't you order
>>> from
>>> Penzeys? They have wonderful herbs and spices.
>>
>> I looked at their website and their stuff didn't impress me. I like
>> American Spice. I'll stick with them.
>
> Penzeys is generally accepted as the best. Didn't like them without
> even trying. Very American (or childish).
>
> http://www.richardfisher.com
>
> ==========
>
> No reason not to stick with what you like. What I like is generally
> accepted as the best to me. YMMV

True. And I have not seen anywhere but here that they are accepted as best.
If this were something well known then I might pay their high prices to ship
some pepper to me. But it isn't. So...