"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/12/2013 7:13 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:11:27 -0500, "Polly Esther"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Today I had to sign a form at our accountants that I did NOT want to
>>>> file
>>>> electronically. We are not receiving a refund. Why would filing
>>>> electronically benefit me? For the lst time, I'll join the line of
>>>> folks
>>>> down at the post office and mail payment on April 15th.
>>>
>>> The main advantage is, you don't have to go to the post office and
>>> stand in line. I owed this year and it did not cost me anything extra
>>> to file electronically and I get to choose the date I want the money
>>> taken from my checking account.
>>>
>>> Saves a stamp, writing a check and is convenient. Done with a couple
>>> of mouse clicks. If you like going to the PO, enjoy the trip.
>>
>> Why would you have to go to the post office to mail something?
>> (snip)
>>
> You've never heard of this? People who owe money to the government wait
> until the last possible minute to file. Why give them your money (which
> they can stick in an account and earn interest on) any sooner than you
> have to? As long as the tax return is postmarked by Midnight, April 15th
> you aren't penalized for late filing. Many Post Office branches stay open
> until Midnight on 4/15 for this reason.

But that still wouldn't require a trip to the post office. Even if I were
to mail it in, I'd just put it in my mail box.

On 3/12/2013 10:25 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 3/12/2013 7:13 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:11:27 -0500, "Polly Esther"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Today I had to sign a form at our accountants that I did NOT want to
>>>>> file
>>>>> electronically. We are not receiving a refund. Why would filing
>>>>> electronically benefit me? For the lst time, I'll join the line of
>>>>> folks
>>>>> down at the post office and mail payment on April 15th.
>>>>
>>>> The main advantage is, you don't have to go to the post office and
>>>> stand in line. I owed this year and it did not cost me anything extra
>>>> to file electronically and I get to choose the date I want the money
>>>> taken from my checking account.
>>>>
>>>> Saves a stamp, writing a check and is convenient. Done with a couple
>>>> of mouse clicks. If you like going to the PO, enjoy the trip.
>>>
>>> Why would you have to go to the post office to mail something?
>>> (snip)
>>>
>> You've never heard of this? People who owe money to the government wait
>> until the last possible minute to file. Why give them your money (which
>> they can stick in an account and earn interest on) any sooner than you
>> have to? As long as the tax return is postmarked by Midnight, April 15th
>> you aren't penalized for late filing. Many Post Office branches stay open
>> until Midnight on 4/15 for this reason.
>
> But that still wouldn't require a trip to the post office. Even if I were
> to mail it in, I'd just put it in my mail box.
>
>
You don't get it. If you put it in your mailbox on April 15th there is
*no* guarantee it will be postmarked by Midnight. And if it isn't,
you're penalized by the IRS for filing late. If you actually *go* to
the post office they can't just leave it sitting in a mail bag until the
next business day.

Jill

On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:28:23 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 3/12/2013 10:25 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 3/12/2013 7:13 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:11:27 -0500, "Polly Esther"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Today I had to sign a form at our accountants that I did NOT want to
>>>>>> file
>>>>>> electronically. We are not receiving a refund. Why would filing
>>>>>> electronically benefit me? For the lst time, I'll join the line of
>>>>>> folks
>>>>>> down at the post office and mail payment on April 15th.
>>>>>
>>>>> The main advantage is, you don't have to go to the post office and
>>>>> stand in line. I owed this year and it did not cost me anything extra
>>>>> to file electronically and I get to choose the date I want the money
>>>>> taken from my checking account.
>>>>>
>>>>> Saves a stamp, writing a check and is convenient. Done with a couple
>>>>> of mouse clicks. If you like going to the PO, enjoy the trip.
>>>>
>>>> Why would you have to go to the post office to mail something?
>>>> (snip)
>>>>
>>> You've never heard of this? People who owe money to the government wait
>>> until the last possible minute to file. Why give them your money (which
>>> they can stick in an account and earn interest on) any sooner than you
>>> have to? As long as the tax return is postmarked by Midnight, April 15th
>>> you aren't penalized for late filing. Many Post Office branches stay open
>>> until Midnight on 4/15 for this reason.
>>
>> But that still wouldn't require a trip to the post office. Even if I were
>> to mail it in, I'd just put it in my mail box.
>>
>You don't get it. If you put it in your mailbox on April 15th there is
>*no* guarantee it will be postmarked by Midnight. And if it isn't,
>you're penalized by the IRS for filing late. If you actually *go* to
>the post office they can't just leave it sitting in a mail bag until the
>next business day.

Why not... often they do just leave it until the next day... postal
workers ain't the swiftest.

There's still no guarantee it'll get post marked on time unless it's
post marked by hand at the counter... and you still have no proof...
you won't get a receipt sending by ordinary snail mail. Were I
cutting it close with snail mail I'd send it registered return
receipt. Filing electronically is the best way to prove you filed on
time.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:28:23 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>On 3/12/2013 10:25 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 3/12/2013 7:13 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:11:27 -0500, "Polly Esther"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Today I had to sign a form at our accountants that I did NOT want to
>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>> electronically. We are not receiving a refund. Why would filing
>>>>>>> electronically benefit me? For the lst time, I'll join the line of
>>>>>>> folks
>>>>>>> down at the post office and mail payment on April 15th.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The main advantage is, you don't have to go to the post office and
>>>>>> stand in line. I owed this year and it did not cost me anything
>>>>>> extra
>>>>>> to file electronically and I get to choose the date I want the money
>>>>>> taken from my checking account.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saves a stamp, writing a check and is convenient. Done with a couple
>>>>>> of mouse clicks. If you like going to the PO, enjoy the trip.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why would you have to go to the post office to mail something?
>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>
>>>> You've never heard of this? People who owe money to the government
>>>> wait
>>>> until the last possible minute to file. Why give them your money
>>>> (which
>>>> they can stick in an account and earn interest on) any sooner than you
>>>> have to? As long as the tax return is postmarked by Midnight, April
>>>> 15th
>>>> you aren't penalized for late filing. Many Post Office branches stay
>>>> open
>>>> until Midnight on 4/15 for this reason.
>>>
>>> But that still wouldn't require a trip to the post office. Even if I
>>> were
>>> to mail it in, I'd just put it in my mail box.
>>>
>>You don't get it. If you put it in your mailbox on April 15th there is
>>*no* guarantee it will be postmarked by Midnight. And if it isn't,
>>you're penalized by the IRS for filing late. If you actually *go* to
>>the post office they can't just leave it sitting in a mail bag until the
>>next business day.
>
> Why not... often they do just leave it until the next day... postal
> workers ain't the swiftest.
>
> There's still no guarantee it'll get post marked on time unless it's
> post marked by hand at the counter... and you still have no proof...
> you won't get a receipt sending by ordinary snail mail. Were I
> cutting it close with snail mail I'd send it registered return
> receipt. Filing electronically is the best way to prove you filed on
> time.

Agreed. I got immediate confirmation and I filed in the middle of the
night.

On 3/12/2013 5:53 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> You don't get it. If you put it in your mailbox on April 15th there is
>> >*no* guarantee it will be postmarked by Midnight. And if it isn't,
>> >you're penalized by the IRS for filing late. If you actually*go* to
>> >the post office they can't just leave it sitting in a mail bag until the
>> >next business day.
> Why not... often they do just leave it until the next day... postal
> workers ain't the swiftest.
>
> There's still no guarantee it'll get post marked on time unless it's
> post marked by hand at the counter... and you still have no proof...
> you won't get a receipt sending by ordinary snail mail. Were I
> cutting it close with snail mail I'd send it registered return
> receipt. Filing electronically is the best way to prove you filed on
> time.

I did leave out the receipt part. I've filed electronically for as long
as it's been an option.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> If you actually *go* to the post office they can't just leave
>>> it sitting in a mail bag until the next business day.
>>
>> Why not... often they do just leave it until the next day... postal
>> workers ain't the swiftest.
>> There's still no guarantee it'll get post marked on time unless it's
>> post marked by hand at the counter... and you still have no proof...
>> you won't get a receipt sending by ordinary snail mail. Were I
>> cutting it close with snail mail I'd send it registered return
>> receipt. Filing electronically is the best way to prove you filed on
>> time.
>
>I did leave out the receipt part.

If you drop mail at the PO there is no receipt, not unless you pay for
registered return receipt. And then it doesn't get placed with
ordinary mail, registered mail goes as priority mail... years ago that
was called "Special Delivery", there are no more "Air Mail" stamps
either, it's now lumped together as Priority, Express & Air Mail
Stamps.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> jmcquown wrote:
>>>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If you actually *go* to the post office they can't just leave
>>>> it sitting in a mail bag until the next business day.
>>>
>>> Why not... often they do just leave it until the next day... postal
>>> workers ain't the swiftest.
>>> There's still no guarantee it'll get post marked on time unless it's
>>> post marked by hand at the counter... and you still have no proof...
>>> you won't get a receipt sending by ordinary snail mail. Were I
>>> cutting it close with snail mail I'd send it registered return
>>> receipt. Filing electronically is the best way to prove you filed on
>>> time.
>>
>>I did leave out the receipt part.
>
> If you drop mail at the PO there is no receipt, not unless you pay for
> registered return receipt. And then it doesn't get placed with
> ordinary mail, registered mail goes as priority mail... years ago that
> was called "Special Delivery", there are no more "Air Mail" stamps
> either, it's now lumped together as Priority, Express & Air Mail
> Stamps.

I get a receipt for the postage I have the P.O. put on the envelopes to the
IRS and the state. I don't bother with certified mail.

On 3/13/2013 10:21 AM, Pico Rico wrote:
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you actually *go* to the post office they can't just leave
>>>>> it sitting in a mail bag until the next business day.
>>>>
>>>> Why not... often they do just leave it until the next day... postal
>>>> workers ain't the swiftest.
>>>> There's still no guarantee it'll get post marked on time unless it's
>>>> post marked by hand at the counter... and you still have no proof...
>>>> you won't get a receipt sending by ordinary snail mail. Were I
>>>> cutting it close with snail mail I'd send it registered return
>>>> receipt. Filing electronically is the best way to prove you filed on
>>>> time.
>>>
>>> I did leave out the receipt part.
>>
>> If you drop mail at the PO there is no receipt, not unless you pay for
>> registered return receipt. And then it doesn't get placed with
>> ordinary mail, registered mail goes as priority mail... years ago that
>> was called "Special Delivery", there are no more "Air Mail" stamps
>> either, it's now lumped together as Priority, Express & Air Mail
>> Stamps.
>
> I get a receipt for the postage I have the P.O. put on the envelopes to the
> IRS and the state. I don't bother with certified mail.
>
>
That's what I was trying to explain. It doesn't matter what I'm
mailing. If I take it to the post office they affix the postage (date
stamped) and give me a receipt. Then even if it sits there in a mail
bag for a few days, no problem. It's already got a date on it.

Jill

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:21:45 -0700, "Pico Rico"
> wrote:

>
>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
.. .
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you actually *go* to the post office they can't just leave
>>>>> it sitting in a mail bag until the next business day.
>>>>
>>>> Why not... often they do just leave it until the next day... postal
>>>> workers ain't the swiftest.
>>>> There's still no guarantee it'll get post marked on time unless it's
>>>> post marked by hand at the counter... and you still have no proof...
>>>> you won't get a receipt sending by ordinary snail mail. Were I
>>>> cutting it close with snail mail I'd send it registered return
>>>> receipt. Filing electronically is the best way to prove you filed on
>>>> time.
>>>
>>>I did leave out the receipt part.
>>
>> If you drop mail at the PO there is no receipt, not unless you pay for
>> registered return receipt. And then it doesn't get placed with
>> ordinary mail, registered mail goes as priority mail... years ago that
>> was called "Special Delivery", there are no more "Air Mail" stamps
>> either, it's now lumped together as Priority, Express & Air Mail
>> Stamps.
>
>I get a receipt for the postage I have the P.O. put on the envelopes to the
>IRS and the state. I don't bother with certified mail.

You can get a receipt for any PO purchase but it won't say where/who
you sent what and when. A receipt for buying stamps proves nothing
except the price you paid.. there's no need for that receipt unless
you'er buying stamps for someone and expect to be paid. You can even
get a reciept for stamps you buy for yourself, I never bother getting
a receipt for stamps I buy for my own personal use.

On 3/13/2013 10:17 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If you actually *go* to the post office they can't just leave
>>>> it sitting in a mail bag until the next business day.
>>>
>>> Why not... often they do just leave it until the next day... postal
>>> workers ain't the swiftest.
>>> There's still no guarantee it'll get post marked on time unless it's
>>> post marked by hand at the counter... and you still have no proof...
>>> you won't get a receipt sending by ordinary snail mail. Were I
>>> cutting it close with snail mail I'd send it registered return
>>> receipt. Filing electronically is the best way to prove you filed on
>>> time.
>>
>> I did leave out the receipt part.
>
> If you drop mail at the PO there is no receipt, not unless you pay for
> registered return receipt. And then it doesn't get placed with
> ordinary mail, registered mail goes as priority mail... years ago that
> was called "Special Delivery", there are no more "Air Mail" stamps
> either, it's now lumped together as Priority, Express & Air Mail
> Stamps.
>
I wasn't talking about dropping it in a drop box. I rarely go to the
post office unless I'm mailing a package. But when I do, yes, they run
it through the postage meter right in front of me and you can ask for a
receipt. You don't have to pay for special delivery.

Jill

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:14:07 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 3/13/2013 10:17 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you actually *go* to the post office they can't just leave
>>>>> it sitting in a mail bag until the next business day.
>>>>
>>>> Why not... often they do just leave it until the next day... postal
>>>> workers ain't the swiftest.
>>>> There's still no guarantee it'll get post marked on time unless it's
>>>> post marked by hand at the counter... and you still have no proof...
>>>> you won't get a receipt sending by ordinary snail mail. Were I
>>>> cutting it close with snail mail I'd send it registered return
>>>> receipt. Filing electronically is the best way to prove you filed on
>>>> time.
>>>
>>> I did leave out the receipt part.
>>
>> If you drop mail at the PO there is no receipt, not unless you pay for
>> registered return receipt. And then it doesn't get placed with
>> ordinary mail, registered mail goes as priority mail... years ago that
>> was called "Special Delivery", there are no more "Air Mail" stamps
>> either, it's now lumped together as Priority, Express & Air Mail
>> Stamps.
>>
>I wasn't talking about dropping it in a drop box. I rarely go to the
>post office unless I'm mailing a package. But when I do, yes, they run
>it through the postage meter right in front of me and you can ask for a
>receipt. You don't have to pay for special delivery.

That's just a receipt for money you spent on postage, it give no proof
of who you sent mail to.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/12/2013 10:25 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 3/12/2013 7:13 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:11:27 -0500, "Polly Esther"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Today I had to sign a form at our accountants that I did NOT want to
>>>>>> file
>>>>>> electronically. We are not receiving a refund. Why would filing
>>>>>> electronically benefit me? For the lst time, I'll join the line of
>>>>>> folks
>>>>>> down at the post office and mail payment on April 15th.
>>>>>
>>>>> The main advantage is, you don't have to go to the post office and
>>>>> stand in line. I owed this year and it did not cost me anything extra
>>>>> to file electronically and I get to choose the date I want the money
>>>>> taken from my checking account.
>>>>>
>>>>> Saves a stamp, writing a check and is convenient. Done with a couple
>>>>> of mouse clicks. If you like going to the PO, enjoy the trip.
>>>>
>>>> Why would you have to go to the post office to mail something?
>>>> (snip)
>>>>
>>> You've never heard of this? People who owe money to the government wait
>>> until the last possible minute to file. Why give them your money (which
>>> they can stick in an account and earn interest on) any sooner than you
>>> have to? As long as the tax return is postmarked by Midnight, April
>>> 15th
>>> you aren't penalized for late filing. Many Post Office branches stay
>>> open
>>> until Midnight on 4/15 for this reason.
>>
>> But that still wouldn't require a trip to the post office. Even if I
>> were
>> to mail it in, I'd just put it in my mail box.
>>
>>
> You don't get it. If you put it in your mailbox on April 15th there is
> *no* guarantee it will be postmarked by Midnight. And if it isn't, you're
> penalized by the IRS for filing late. If you actually *go* to the post
> office they can't just leave it sitting in a mail bag until the next
> business day.

Just as there is no guarantee that it will be postmarked by then when you
take it to the post office! I think they most likely *can* leave it sitting
there. Especially in light of all the stuff we are currently seeing on the
news about them.

On Mar 12, 10:25*am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 3/12/2013 7:13 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> . ..
> >>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:11:27 -0500, "Polly Esther"
> >>> > wrote:
>
> >>>> Today I had to sign a form at our accountants that I did NOT want to
> >>>> file
> >>>> electronically. *We are not receiving a refund. *Why would filing
> >>>> electronically benefit me? *For the lst time, I'll join the line of
> >>>> folks
> >>>> down at the post office and mail payment on April 15th.
>
> >>> The main advantage is, you don't have to go to the post office and
> >>> stand in line. *I owed this year and it did not cost me anything extra
> >>> to file electronically and I get to choose the date I want the money
> >>> taken from my checking account.
>
> >>> Saves a stamp, writing a check and is convenient. *Done with a couple
> >>> of mouse clicks. *If you like going to the PO, enjoy the trip.
>
> >> Why would you have to go to the post office to mail something?
> >> (snip)
>
> > You've never heard of this? *People who owe money to the government wait
> > until the last possible minute to file. *Why give them your money (which
> > they can stick in an account and earn interest on) any sooner than you
> > have to? *As long as the tax return is postmarked by Midnight, April 15th
> > you aren't penalized for late filing. *Many Post Office branches stay open
> > until Midnight on 4/15 for this reason.
>
> But that still wouldn't require a trip to the post office. *Even if I were
> to mail it in, I'd just put it in my mail box.

Before elec. filing, I sure as hell went to the post office and paid
for certified mail. No way was I going to find it it 'never got
there' and be faced with a hassle and penalty.