"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> jmcquown wrote:
>>>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If you actually *go* to the post office they can't just leave
>>>> it sitting in a mail bag until the next business day.
>>>
>>> Why not... often they do just leave it until the next day... postal
>>> workers ain't the swiftest.
>>> There's still no guarantee it'll get post marked on time unless it's
>>> post marked by hand at the counter... and you still have no proof...
>>> you won't get a receipt sending by ordinary snail mail. Were I
>>> cutting it close with snail mail I'd send it registered return
>>> receipt. Filing electronically is the best way to prove you filed on
>>> time.
>>
>>I did leave out the receipt part.
>
> If you drop mail at the PO there is no receipt, not unless you pay for
> registered return receipt. And then it doesn't get placed with
> ordinary mail, registered mail goes as priority mail... years ago that
> was called "Special Delivery", there are no more "Air Mail" stamps
> either, it's now lumped together as Priority, Express & Air Mail
> Stamps.

I get a receipt for the postage I have the P.O. put on the envelopes to the
IRS and the state. I don't bother with certified mail.

Kalmia wrote:
> On Mar 12, 11:45 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:40:28 -0700, "Pico Rico"
>>> > wrote:
>>
>>>> "Chemo" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> On Mar 12, 3:00 am, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:11:27 -0500, "Polly Esther"
>>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> Today I had to sign a form at our accountants that I did NOT
>>>>>> want to file
>>>>>> electronically. We are not receiving a refund. Why would filing
>>>>>> electronically benefit me? For the lst time, I'll join the line
>>>>>> of folks
>>>>>> down at the post office and mail payment on April 15th.
>>
>>>>> The main advantage is, you don't have to go to the post office and
>>>>> stand in line. I owed this year and it did not cost me anything
>>>>> extra to file electronically and I get to choose the date I want
>>>>> the money taken from my checking account.
>>
>>>>> Saves a stamp, writing a check and is convenient. Done with a
>>>>> couple of mouse clicks. If you like going to the PO, enjoy the
>>>>> trip.
>>
>>>> and I think it was also part of the paper reduction act.
>>
>>> A lotta BS... before the advent of the computer I never got so much
>>> paper and it's getting to be more by leaps and bounds every day. I
>>> never needed a shredder before the computer. The computer is what
>>> enables one to receive reams of junk mail every week. I get almost
>>> enough junk mail catalogues to burn in a wood stove to heat my
>>> house.
>>
>> Seriously agree! In the old days I did order from catalogs. I kept
>> them and they fit in a small plastic bin. But these days? In two
>> week's time, 1/2 of my huge recycle bin is catalogs. I immediately
>> recycle them and never bother to look at them. And I saw on the news
>> that they are urging companies to put out more catalogs to keep the
>> post office in business!
>
> Why not get on the phone, call those 800 numbers, and be removed from
> the lists? You'll be saving your time and maybe a tree twig or two.
>
> Oh, sure, I know the old argument about jobs, post office etc. Let's
> not get into that.

Call what 800 numbers? I don't know of any unless you mean each individual
place that sends out catalogs. If that's the case that would be a very
unrewarding career! I can easily get 12-15 catalogs per day. And each time
I order online, it permits them to send me a catalog. The only ones I ever
keep are the dance ones because my daughter likes to look at those.

On 3/12/2013 1:52 PM, Chemo wrote:
> On Mar 12, 7:08 am, Moe DeLoughan > wrote:
>> On 3/11/2013 11:11 PM, Polly Esther wrote:
>>
>>> Today I had to sign a form at our accountants that I did NOT want to
>>> file electronically. We are not receiving a refund. Why would filing
>>> electronically benefit me? For the lst time, I'll join the line of
>>> folks down at the post office and mail payment on April 15th. When we
>>> were poor and newlyweds, we paid taxes on our income ( of $ 280 per
>>> month) including that which was deducted for social security. Didn't
>>> we? NOW we must pay income tax on our pitiful little social security
>>> checks? Okay. I'm a great-grandmother and not the brightest bulb on
>>> the string anymore but what is wrong with this? Polly
>>
>> Congratulate yourself for having earned a benefit large enough to tax.
>> Many people would be thankful to be in your shoes, because they're
>> struggling to get by on a pension so small, they don't have to pay taxes.
>
> http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/app/answ...urity-benefits
>
> You will have to pay federal taxes on your Social Security benefits if
> you file a federal tax return as an individual and your total income
> is more than $25,000. If you file a joint return, you will have to
> pay taxes if you and your spouse have a total income of more than
> $32,000.

Bingo. I have an elderly neighbor whose combined pensions and Social
Security benefit provide her with a higher annual income than I earn
from working. We have this conversation every time she wants me to do
yard work for her for free, because she's "on a fixed income". Sure,
it's a fixed income - but it's more than I make, so if she's gonna
plead poverty, I'll plead it right back.

Kalmia wrote:

> I would bet my last dime you have received more in SS than you ever
> paid in

Ooh! I love a good mystery. Do you think she's 120 years old? Or is she
drawing SS benefits for herself, her husband, her sister, and her uncle?
Spill!

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
> Kalmia wrote:
>
>> I would bet my last dime you have received more in SS than you ever
>> paid in
>
> Ooh! I love a good mystery. Do you think she's 120 years old? Or is she
> drawing SS benefits for herself, her husband, her sister, and her uncle?
> Spill!
>
Actually, I've never received a dime that was deducted from my earnings. My
social security benefits are 'as spouse'. Polly

On 3/13/2013 10:17 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If you actually *go* to the post office they can't just leave
>>>> it sitting in a mail bag until the next business day.
>>>
>>> Why not... often they do just leave it until the next day... postal
>>> workers ain't the swiftest.
>>> There's still no guarantee it'll get post marked on time unless it's
>>> post marked by hand at the counter... and you still have no proof...
>>> you won't get a receipt sending by ordinary snail mail. Were I
>>> cutting it close with snail mail I'd send it registered return
>>> receipt. Filing electronically is the best way to prove you filed on
>>> time.
>>
>> I did leave out the receipt part.
>
> If you drop mail at the PO there is no receipt, not unless you pay for
> registered return receipt. And then it doesn't get placed with
> ordinary mail, registered mail goes as priority mail... years ago that
> was called "Special Delivery", there are no more "Air Mail" stamps
> either, it's now lumped together as Priority, Express & Air Mail
> Stamps.
>
I wasn't talking about dropping it in a drop box. I rarely go to the
post office unless I'm mailing a package. But when I do, yes, they run
it through the postage meter right in front of me and you can ask for a
receipt. You don't have to pay for special delivery.

Jill

On 3/13/2013 10:21 AM, Pico Rico wrote:
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you actually *go* to the post office they can't just leave
>>>>> it sitting in a mail bag until the next business day.
>>>>
>>>> Why not... often they do just leave it until the next day... postal
>>>> workers ain't the swiftest.
>>>> There's still no guarantee it'll get post marked on time unless it's
>>>> post marked by hand at the counter... and you still have no proof...
>>>> you won't get a receipt sending by ordinary snail mail. Were I
>>>> cutting it close with snail mail I'd send it registered return
>>>> receipt. Filing electronically is the best way to prove you filed on
>>>> time.
>>>
>>> I did leave out the receipt part.
>>
>> If you drop mail at the PO there is no receipt, not unless you pay for
>> registered return receipt. And then it doesn't get placed with
>> ordinary mail, registered mail goes as priority mail... years ago that
>> was called "Special Delivery", there are no more "Air Mail" stamps
>> either, it's now lumped together as Priority, Express & Air Mail
>> Stamps.
>
> I get a receipt for the postage I have the P.O. put on the envelopes to the
> IRS and the state. I don't bother with certified mail.
>
>
That's what I was trying to explain. It doesn't matter what I'm
mailing. If I take it to the post office they affix the postage (date
stamped) and give me a receipt. Then even if it sits there in a mail
bag for a few days, no problem. It's already got a date on it.

Jill

On 3/13/2013 10:34 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> Why not get on the phone, call those 800 numbers, and be removed from
>> >the lists? You'll be saving your time and maybe a tree twig or two.
>> >
> Call what 800 numbers? I don't know of any unless you mean each individual
> place that sends out catalogs. If that's the case that would be a very
> unrewarding career!

Yes, the numbers on the catalogs. No one said you have to make a
"career" out of calling and asking them not to send you catalogs.

Jill

--
Wine: cheaper than gas. Drink, don't drive.

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:11:56 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 3/13/2013 10:34 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> Why not get on the phone, call those 800 numbers, and be removed from
>>> >the lists? You'll be saving your time and maybe a tree twig or two.
>>> >
>> Call what 800 numbers? I don't know of any unless you mean each individual
>> place that sends out catalogs. If that's the case that would be a very
>> unrewarding career!
>
>Yes, the numbers on the catalogs. No one said you have to make a
>"career" out of calling and asking them not to send you catalogs.

This is easier-
https://www.catalogchoice.org/

My daughter has been canceling 5-6 a day for the past couple weeks.
[you shoulda been here in Dec.<g>]

Jim

"Jim Elbrecht" > wrote in message
...

> This is easier-
> https://www.catalogchoice.org/
>
> My daughter has been canceling 5-6 a day for the past couple weeks.
> [you shoulda been here in Dec.<g>]
>
> Jim


Yes, I was going to post the same thing, it works well.

Cherhi

On 3/13/2013 1:10 PM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:11:56 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/13/2013 10:34 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> Why not get on the phone, call those 800 numbers, and be removed from
>>>>> the lists? You'll be saving your time and maybe a tree twig or two.
>>>>>
>>> Call what 800 numbers? I don't know of any unless you mean each individual
>>> place that sends out catalogs. If that's the case that would be a very
>>> unrewarding career!
>>
>> Yes, the numbers on the catalogs. No one said you have to make a
>> "career" out of calling and asking them not to send you catalogs.
>
> This is easier-
> https://www.catalogchoice.org/
>
> My daughter has been canceling 5-6 a day for the past couple weeks.
> [you shoulda been here in Dec.<g>]
>
> Jim
>
Thanks for the link. It's like the Do Not Call List. I'm not
overwhelmed by catalogs. Sometimes I do like to flip through them just
for fun.

Jill

On Mar 13, 11:14*am, "Polly Esther" > wrote:
> "George M. Middius" > wrote in messagenews:4b51k8psc7d0jrvgqjg0pgihgfmpdi2u2m@4ax .com...> Kalmia wrote:
>
> >> I would bet my last dime you have received more in SS than you ever
> >> paid in
>
> > Ooh! I love a good mystery. Do you think she's 120 years old? Or is she
> > drawing SS benefits for herself, her husband, her sister, and her uncle?
> > Spill!
>
> Actually, I've never received a dime that was deducted from my earnings. My
> social security benefits are 'as spouse'. *Polly

Ah HA!! Are you saying you never paid in? What are you beefing about
then? We're not getting all the facts, here, I fear.

Your age?
Number of quarters worked?

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 13:06:55 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:

> On Mar 13, 11:14*am, "Polly Esther" > wrote:
> > "George M. Middius" > wrote in messagenews:4b51k8psc7d0jrvgqjg0pgihgfmpdi2u2m@4ax .com...> Kalmia wrote:
> >
> > >> I would bet my last dime you have received more in SS than you ever
> > >> paid in
> >
> > > Ooh! I love a good mystery. Do you think she's 120 years old? Or is she
> > > drawing SS benefits for herself, her husband, her sister, and her uncle?
> > > Spill!
> >
> > Actually, I've never received a dime that was deducted from my earnings. My
> > social security benefits are 'as spouse'. *Polly
>
> Ah HA!! Are you saying you never paid in? What are you beefing about
> then? We're not getting all the facts, here, I fear.
>
I think I'll probably draw as spouse too because I am a couple of
"points" short of qualifying because I paid into my own retirement
system most of the time I worked. Even if I'd worked the requisite
amount and was fully vested in ss, I'd still draw as spouse because he
made more money than I did.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"Kalmia" <> wrote
On Mar 13, 11:14 am, "Polly Esther" > wrote:

> "George M. Middius" <> wrote in > >> I would bet my last dime you have
> received more in SS than you ever
> >> paid in
>
> > Ooh! I love a good mystery. Do you think she's 120 years old? Or is she
> > drawing SS benefits for herself, her husband, her sister, and her uncle?
> > Spill!
>
> Actually, I've never received a dime that was deducted from my earnings.
> My
> social security benefits are 'as spouse'. Polly

Ah HA!! Are you saying you never paid in? What are you beefing about
then? We're not getting all the facts, here, I fear.

Your age?
Number of quarters worked?

I ONLY paid in to Social Security for about 40 years. Benefit as 'spouse' is
higher than mine would be. And for the curious, only parts of me are 120
years old - mostly my hands and aching back. Polly

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 13:06:55 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> > wrote:
>
>> On Mar 13, 11:14 am, "Polly Esther" > wrote:
>> > "George M. Middius" > wrote in
>> > messagenews:4b51k8psc7d0jrvgqjg0pgihgfmpdi2u2m@4ax .com...> Kalmia
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >> I would bet my last dime you have received more in SS than you ever
>> > >> paid in
>> >
>> > > Ooh! I love a good mystery. Do you think she's 120 years old? Or is
>> > > she
>> > > drawing SS benefits for herself, her husband, her sister, and her
>> > > uncle?
>> > > Spill!
>> >
>> > Actually, I've never received a dime that was deducted from my
>> > earnings. My
>> > social security benefits are 'as spouse'. Polly
>>
>> Ah HA!! Are you saying you never paid in? What are you beefing about
>> then? We're not getting all the facts, here, I fear.
>>
> I think I'll probably draw as spouse too because I am a couple of
> "points" short of qualifying because I paid into my own retirement
> system most of the time I worked. Even if I'd worked the requisite
> amount and was fully vested in ss, I'd still draw as spouse because he
> made more money than I did.

We can get a state pension on our husband's contribution, but I don't think
it is very good. I worked and got a decent pension on my own contributions.
I also got a work pension which is even better.
--
--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:21:45 -0700, "Pico Rico"
> wrote:

>
>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
.. .
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you actually *go* to the post office they can't just leave
>>>>> it sitting in a mail bag until the next business day.
>>>>
>>>> Why not... often they do just leave it until the next day... postal
>>>> workers ain't the swiftest.
>>>> There's still no guarantee it'll get post marked on time unless it's
>>>> post marked by hand at the counter... and you still have no proof...
>>>> you won't get a receipt sending by ordinary snail mail. Were I
>>>> cutting it close with snail mail I'd send it registered return
>>>> receipt. Filing electronically is the best way to prove you filed on
>>>> time.
>>>
>>>I did leave out the receipt part.
>>
>> If you drop mail at the PO there is no receipt, not unless you pay for
>> registered return receipt. And then it doesn't get placed with
>> ordinary mail, registered mail goes as priority mail... years ago that
>> was called "Special Delivery", there are no more "Air Mail" stamps
>> either, it's now lumped together as Priority, Express & Air Mail
>> Stamps.
>
>I get a receipt for the postage I have the P.O. put on the envelopes to the
>IRS and the state. I don't bother with certified mail.

You can get a receipt for any PO purchase but it won't say where/who
you sent what and when. A receipt for buying stamps proves nothing
except the price you paid.. there's no need for that receipt unless
you'er buying stamps for someone and expect to be paid. You can even
get a reciept for stamps you buy for yourself, I never bother getting
a receipt for stamps I buy for my own personal use.

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:18:55 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 3/13/2013 10:21 AM, Pico Rico wrote:
>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you actually *go* to the post office they can't just leave
>>>>>> it sitting in a mail bag until the next business day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not... often they do just leave it until the next day... postal
>>>>> workers ain't the swiftest.
>>>>> There's still no guarantee it'll get post marked on time unless it's
>>>>> post marked by hand at the counter... and you still have no proof...
>>>>> you won't get a receipt sending by ordinary snail mail. Were I
>>>>> cutting it close with snail mail I'd send it registered return
>>>>> receipt. Filing electronically is the best way to prove you filed on
>>>>> time.
>>>>
>>>> I did leave out the receipt part.
>>>
>>> If you drop mail at the PO there is no receipt, not unless you pay for
>>> registered return receipt. And then it doesn't get placed with
>>> ordinary mail, registered mail goes as priority mail... years ago that
>>> was called "Special Delivery", there are no more "Air Mail" stamps
>>> either, it's now lumped together as Priority, Express & Air Mail
>>> Stamps.
>>
>> I get a receipt for the postage I have the P.O. put on the envelopes to the
>> IRS and the state. I don't bother with certified mail.
>>
>>
>That's what I was trying to explain. It doesn't matter what I'm
>mailing. If I take it to the post office they affix the postage (date
>stamped) and give me a receipt. Then even if it sits there in a mail
>bag for a few days, no problem. It's already got a date on it.

That gives you no proof you mailed anything to the IRS.

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:14:07 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 3/13/2013 10:17 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you actually *go* to the post office they can't just leave
>>>>> it sitting in a mail bag until the next business day.
>>>>
>>>> Why not... often they do just leave it until the next day... postal
>>>> workers ain't the swiftest.
>>>> There's still no guarantee it'll get post marked on time unless it's
>>>> post marked by hand at the counter... and you still have no proof...
>>>> you won't get a receipt sending by ordinary snail mail. Were I
>>>> cutting it close with snail mail I'd send it registered return
>>>> receipt. Filing electronically is the best way to prove you filed on
>>>> time.
>>>
>>> I did leave out the receipt part.
>>
>> If you drop mail at the PO there is no receipt, not unless you pay for
>> registered return receipt. And then it doesn't get placed with
>> ordinary mail, registered mail goes as priority mail... years ago that
>> was called "Special Delivery", there are no more "Air Mail" stamps
>> either, it's now lumped together as Priority, Express & Air Mail
>> Stamps.
>>
>I wasn't talking about dropping it in a drop box. I rarely go to the
>post office unless I'm mailing a package. But when I do, yes, they run
>it through the postage meter right in front of me and you can ask for a
>receipt. You don't have to pay for special delivery.

That's just a receipt for money you spent on postage, it give no proof
of who you sent mail to.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:18:55 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>On 3/13/2013 10:21 AM, Pico Rico wrote:
>>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you actually *go* to the post office they can't just leave
>>>>>>> it sitting in a mail bag until the next business day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why not... often they do just leave it until the next day... postal
>>>>>> workers ain't the swiftest.
>>>>>> There's still no guarantee it'll get post marked on time unless it's
>>>>>> post marked by hand at the counter... and you still have no proof...
>>>>>> you won't get a receipt sending by ordinary snail mail. Were I
>>>>>> cutting it close with snail mail I'd send it registered return
>>>>>> receipt. Filing electronically is the best way to prove you filed on
>>>>>> time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did leave out the receipt part.
>>>>
>>>> If you drop mail at the PO there is no receipt, not unless you pay for
>>>> registered return receipt. And then it doesn't get placed with
>>>> ordinary mail, registered mail goes as priority mail... years ago that
>>>> was called "Special Delivery", there are no more "Air Mail" stamps
>>>> either, it's now lumped together as Priority, Express & Air Mail
>>>> Stamps.
>>>
>>> I get a receipt for the postage I have the P.O. put on the envelopes to
>>> the
>>> IRS and the state. I don't bother with certified mail.
>>>
>>>
>>That's what I was trying to explain. It doesn't matter what I'm
>>mailing. If I take it to the post office they affix the postage (date
>>stamped) and give me a receipt. Then even if it sits there in a mail
>>bag for a few days, no problem. It's already got a date on it.
>
> That gives you no proof you mailed anything to the IRS.

That plus my declaration under penalty of perjury is all that is needed.

On Mar 11, 11:11*pm, "Polly Esther" > wrote:
> Today I had to sign a form at our accountants that I did NOT want to file
> electronically. *We are not receiving a refund. *Why would filing
> electronically benefit me? *For the lst time, I'll join the line of folks
> down at the post office and mail payment on April 15th. *When we were poor
> and newlyweds, we paid taxes on our income ( of $ 280 per month) including
> that which was deducted for social security. *Didn't we? NOW we must pay
> income tax on our pitiful little social security checks? *Okay. *I'm a
> great-grandmother and not the brightest bulb on the string anymore but what
> is wrong with this? *Polly

You at least could move to a state that doesn't tax SS income going to
retirees....many states don't.

Why stand in line to mail your tax forms? Just drop them in an
external mailbox.

N.

On Mar 12, 5:00*am, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:11:27 -0500, "Polly Esther"
>
> > wrote:
> >Today I had to sign a form at our accountants that I did NOT want to file
> >electronically. *We are not receiving a refund. *Why would filing
> >electronically benefit me? *For the lst time, I'll join the line of folks
> >down at the post office and mail payment on April 15th.
>
> The main advantage is, you don't have to go to the post office and
> stand in line. *I owed this year and it did not cost me anything extra
> to file electronically and I get to choose the date I want the money
> taken from my checking account.
>
> Saves a stamp, writing a check and is convenient. *Done with a couple
> of mouse clicks. *If you like going to the PO, enjoy the trip.

Anyone standing in line to mail an envelope is crazy. For about five
bucks, you can get a small manual postal scale and calculate your
required postage online, unless you are sending an envelope over 13
ounces, in which case it has to have metered postage on it, not
stamps.

N.

On Mar 12, 9:15*am, jmcquown > wrote:
> On 3/12/2013 7:55 AM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:> "Polly Esther" > wrote:
>
> >> Today I had to sign a form at our accountants that I did NOT want to file
> >> electronically. *We are not receiving a refund. *Why would filing
> >> electronically benefit me?
>
> > In NY you would avoid the fee for *not* filing electronically.
>
> > I don't see it on their site now- so maybe it was just last year? I
> > use TurboTax and was going to mail mine last year and the software
> > warned me of the fee for filing by mail.
>
> > Jim
>
> Kind of ironic. *Two agencies of the same government. *The Post Office
> was founded on snail mail; the IRS wants to penalize you for using it. LOL
>
> Jill

Actually, the USPO is not an official part of our government.

..

On Mar 12, 10:05*am, pltrgyst > wrote:
> On 3/12/13 7:13 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > Why would you have to go to the post office to mail something?
>
> Because unless you want to take a chance with the IRS, you should get
> proof of mailing if you're filing your taxes at the last minute.
>
> -- Larry

That's a load of BS.

N.

On Mar 13, 4:54*pm, "Polly Esther" > wrote:
> "Kalmia" <> wrote
> On Mar 13, 11:14 am, "Polly Esther" > wrote:
>
> > "George M. Middius" <> wrote in > >> I would bet my last dime you have
> > received more in SS than you ever
> > >> paid in
>
> > > Ooh! I love a good mystery. Do you think she's 120 years old? Or is she
> > > drawing SS benefits for herself, her husband, her sister, and her uncle?
> > > Spill!
>
> > Actually, I've never received a dime that was deducted from my earnings..
> > My
> > social security benefits are 'as spouse'. Polly
>
> Ah HA!! Are you saying you never paid in? *What are you beefing about
> then? *We're not getting all the facts, here, I fear.
>
> *Your age?
> Number of quarters worked?
>
> I ONLY paid in to Social Security for about 40 years. Benefit as 'spouse' is
> higher than mine would be. And for the curious, only parts of me are 120
> years old - mostly my hands and aching back. *Polly

Maybe I'd better look into that spouse amount.

It's hard to believe that someone can get more for sitting home on
one's ass rather than working for 40 years. I still think there's
something you're not telling us.

Did you ever make more than minimum wage in those 40 years?

"Kalmia" <>
> Polly - I ONLY paid in to Social Security for about 40 years. Benefit as
> 'spouse' is
> higher than mine would be. And for the curious, only parts of me are 120
> years old - mostly my hands and aching back. Polly

Maybe I'd better look into that spouse amount.

It's hard to believe that someone can get more for sitting home on
one's ass rather than working for 40 years. I still think there's
something you're not telling us.

Did you ever make more than minimum wage in those 40 years?

There were 2 'hard to believes' when we retired. Besides the 'as spouse'
thing, we were surprised at how much working was costing. Car expenses,
lunch money and mascara really add up. I only do mascara for the beauty
contest down at the feed store now. Sometimes a cow wins. Polly

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I've been a member of AARP for two years now and only because my daughter's
> school was having a magazine drive and I got it through there. Their
> magazine and newsletters are really pretty stupid and I think you'd have to
> be pretty stupid and clueless to get any benefit out of them.

When I turned 50, I joined for a year. At that time, most of the benefits
seemed to center around truly retired people and travel discounts. Didn't do
anything for me.

I still get offers constantly. Now that I will soon turn 60 (gasp!) I'm
tempted to subcribe again to see what they offer now. It's really cheap to
join for a year. I think they do offer some form of group insurance. That's
what I'd like to check out.

G.

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:35:09 -0500, "Polly Esther"
> wrote:

> I only do mascara for the beauty
> contest down at the feed store now. Sometimes a cow wins. Polly

LOL You are so funny, Polly!

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 3/14/13 12:38 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>
> Actually, the USPO is not an official part of our government.

Actually, the USPS is an independent agency of the US Government.
"Independent Agency" means only that it does not fall under any of the
cabinet departments. Like many other agencies (for example, the US
Patent Office from which I just retired), it does not rely on federal
tax moneys for its operation. It is still most definitely part of the US
Government, and its employees are federal employees, with full transfer
rights of seniority and retirement to and from other agencies and
departments.

-- Larry

On 3/14/13 12:39 PM, Nancy2 wrote:

>> Because unless you want to take a chance with the IRS, you should get
>> proof of mailing if you're filing your taxes at the last minute.
>
> That's a load of BS.

No, you're a load of BS. Just like your ignorant statement on the
governmental status of the USPS, an agency specifically authorized in
the US Constitution.

You're a disgrace to the Nancy's of the world (of whom I've been married
to two, so I have some experience in the matter).

(I'm being polite. I hate it when I do that. If we were in the same
room, I'd tell you you're a dumb ****.)

Welcome to my kill file. {plonk}

-- Larry

"pltrgyst" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/14/13 12:38 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>
>> Actually, the USPO is not an official part of our government.
>
> Actually, the USPS is an independent agency of the US Government.
> "Independent Agency" means only that it does not fall under any of the
> cabinet departments. Like many other agencies (for example, the US Patent
> Office from which I just retired), it does not rely on federal tax moneys
> for its operation. It is still most definitely part of the US Government,
> and its employees are federal employees, with full transfer rights of
> seniority and retirement to and from other agencies and departments.
>
> -- Larry

were you an Examiner? what art unit?

On 3/14/13 5:26 PM, Pico Rico wrote:
>
> were you an Examiner? what art unit?

No, sorry -- I'm a computer type, in PTO's OCIO. Created and managed the
PTO Web site and the Web patent and trademark databases, and handled
international data exchange and development of international patent data
standards.

-- Larry

On 3/13/2013 1:10 PM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:

> This is easier-
> https://www.catalogchoice.org/
>
> My daughter has been canceling 5-6 a day for the past couple weeks.
> [you shoulda been here in Dec.<g>]
>
> Jim
>
Thanks for this Jim!

On 3/12/2013 6:00 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:40:28 -0700, "Pico Rico"
> > wrote:


>> and I think it was also part of the paper reduction act.
>
> A lotta BS... before the advent of the computer I never got so much
> paper and it's getting to be more by leaps and bounds every day. I
> never needed a shredder before the computer. The computer is what
> enables one to receive reams of junk mail every week. I get almost
> enough junk mail catalogues to burn in a wood stove to heat my house.
>
The paperwork reduction act has nothing to do with junk mail.

http://www.archives.gov/federal-regi...tion/3501.html

On 3/13/2013 2:35 PM, jmcquown wrote:

> On 3/13/2013 1:10 PM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:

>> This is easier-
>> https://www.catalogchoice.org/
>>
>> My daughter has been canceling 5-6 a day for the past couple weeks.
>> [you shoulda been here in Dec.<g>]
>>
>> Jim
>>
> Thanks for the link. It's like the Do Not Call List. I'm not
> overwhelmed by catalogs. Sometimes I do like to flip through them just
> for fun.
>
> Jill

And then recycle.

On 3/14/2013 5:09 PM, pltrgyst wrote:

> On 3/14/13 12:38 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>
>> Actually, the USPO is not an official part of our government.
>
> Actually, the USPS is an independent agency of the US Government.
> "Independent Agency" means only that it does not fall under any of the
> cabinet departments. Like many other agencies (for example, the US
> Patent Office from which I just retired), it does not rely on federal
> tax moneys for its operation. It is still most definitely part of the US
> Government, and its employees are federal employees, with full transfer
> rights of seniority and retirement to and from other agencies and
> departments.
>
> -- Larry
>
Right. Completely funded by postage and other fees we're charged. I
think other gov agencies should do the same.

"Cheryl" <>>
> The paperwork reduction act has nothing to do with junk mail.

Paperwork reduction? Humbug! Each month we receive an 8 page statement of
how much money we've paid for prescriptions. Our bank statement tells us
that and "What difference Does it Make?" ( to quote Hillary). Nobody's
going to give us our money back or send us a sympathy card. Polly

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:52:00 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I've been a member of AARP for two years now and only because my daughter's
>> school was having a magazine drive and I got it through there. Their
>> magazine and newsletters are really pretty stupid and I think you'd have to
>> be pretty stupid and clueless to get any benefit out of them.
>
>When I turned 50, I joined for a year. At that time, most of the benefits
>seemed to center around truly retired people and travel discounts. Didn't do
>anything for me.
>
>I still get offers constantly. Now that I will soon turn 60 (gasp!) I'm
>tempted to subcribe again to see what they offer now. It's really cheap to
>join for a year. I think they do offer some form of group insurance. That's
>what I'd like to check out.
>
>G.

I get my United Healthcare Medicare supplement through them. At least
check it out when you are going to hit 65 when Medicare (if it still
exists) kicks in.

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:12:05 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:



>Maybe I'd better look into that spouse amount.
>
> It's hard to believe that someone can get more for sitting home on
>one's ass rather than working for 40 years. I still think there's
>something you're not telling us.
>
>Did you ever make more than minimum wage in those 40 years?

Maximum SS benefit is about 2500. That means the wife could get half,
or $1250. The average person is collecting less than that after
working their entire life

Even better, you can have multiple wives over the years and they can
all collect half. You just have to be married to each of them for 10+
years.

"Ed Pawlowski" <>
> Maximum SS benefit is about 2500. That means the wife could get half,
> or $1250. The average person is collecting less than that after
> working their entire life
>
> Even better, you can have multiple wives over the years and they can
> all collect half. You just have to be married to each of them for 10+
> years.

Golly, Ed! Is that true? I mean the part about collecting less than $
1250. Polly

Cheryl wrote:
> On 3/13/2013 1:10 PM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>
>> This is easier-
>> https://www.catalogchoice.org/
>>
>> My daughter has been canceling 5-6 a day for the past couple weeks.
>> [you shoulda been here in Dec.<g>]
>>
>> Jim
>>
> Thanks for this Jim!

I just signed up at that place but it would take forever to send all those
requests!