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It's been said by some folks, here, beans all taste the same after
cooking. That one cannot tell which bean was used once the dish is
finished. I think I even agreed. Well, I was wrong, too.

I'm here to tell you is jes ain't so. I jes made up a mess of Cajun
Red Beans, like Red Beans & Rice. Only, I used great northern dried
beans. Know what it tastes like? It tastes like great northern beans
with a whole buncha cajun flavoring. Yep. All the best ingredients.
Fresh trinity, whole garlic, new bay leaves, Tony Chachere's Creole
spice, ham, sausage, Louisiana Hot Sauce, etc. Actually, it tastes
great!! But, it tastes like a great pot of Cajun great northern
beans, not classic Cajun red beans. So, if ya' want the real deal,
use red beans.

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On Feb 7, 2:19*pm, notbob > wrote:
> It's been said by some folks, here, beans all taste the same after
> cooking. *That one cannot tell which bean was used once the dish is
> finished. *I think I even agreed. *Well, I was wrong, too.
>
> I'm here to tell you is jes ain't so. *I jes made up a mess of Cajun
> Red Beans, like Red Beans & Rice. *Only, I used great northern dried
> beans. *Know what it tastes like? *It tastes like great northern beans
> with a whole buncha cajun flavoring. *Yep. *All the best ingredients.
> Fresh trinity, whole garlic, new bay leaves, Tony Chachere's Creole
> spice, ham, sausage, Louisiana Hot Sauce, etc. *Actually, it tastes
> great!! *But, it tastes like a great pot of Cajun great northern
> beans, not classic Cajun red beans. *So, if ya' want the real deal,
> use red beans.
>
> nb


Yes. RED BEANS , not kidney bens or any other bean.
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> Yes. RED BEANS , not kidney bens or any other bean.


We've been down this road before. Find someone else to play this
game.

I don't know about pinto beans as I didn't use pinto beans. I used
great northern beans, so it's great northern beans I commented on.
Why don't you use whatever bean floats yer boat and get back to us
with your conclusions instead of attemping to engage me about beans I
did NOT use or even mention.

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On 8 Feb 2013 03:07:23 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> On 2013-02-08, ImStillMags > wrote:
>
> > Yes. RED BEANS , not kidney bens or any other bean.

>
> We've been down this road before. Find someone else to play this
> game.
>
> I don't know about pinto beans as I didn't use pinto beans. I used
> great northern beans, so it's great northern beans I commented on.
> Why don't you use whatever bean floats yer boat and get back to us
> with your conclusions instead of attemping to engage me about beans I
> did NOT use or even mention.
>

She was agreeing with you, stupid.


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On Feb 7, 9:12*pm, sf > wrote:
> On 8 Feb 2013 03:07:23 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
> > On 2013-02-08, ImStillMags > wrote:

>
> > > Yes. * *RED BEANS , not kidney bens or any other bean.

>
> > We've been down this road before. *Find someone else to play this
> > game.

>
> > I don't know about pinto beans as I didn't use pinto beans. *I used
> > great northern beans, so it's great northern beans I commented on.
> > Why don't you use whatever bean floats yer boat and get back to us
> > with your conclusions instead of attemping to engage me about beans I
> > did NOT use or even mention.

>
> She was agreeing with you, stupid.
>
> --
> Food is an important part of a balanced diet.


Yes, I was.



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On 2013-02-08, ImStillMags > wrote:
> On Feb 7, 9:12*pm, sf > wrote:


>> She was agreeing with you, stupid.


> Yes, I was.


My mistake. I got yours and Marty's post confused. I mean I
responded to part of your... wait... Marty said... no, I meant....

Nevermind. I'm having creole/cajun northern's w/ elk sausage fer
breakfast. That's what I'm talkin' 'bout!!

I discovered something else. Not any hot sauce will do. I have a
half doz hot sauces, but hadda go out and buy a new bottle of Louisiana
Hot Sauce(TM). Nothing else works.

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> Yes. RED BEANS , not kidney bens or any other bean.


I'd never eaten red beans and rice before I made it, but I used "small
red beans" as prescribed. What an utter and complete disappointment!

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> On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:33:52 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
> > wrote:
>
>> Yes. RED BEANS , not kidney bens or any other bean.

>
> I'd never eaten red beans and rice before I made it, but I used "small
> red beans" as prescribed. What an utter and complete disappointment!


I don't mind plain beans and rice. But with the Cajun seasonings? No. Not
for me.


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On Feb 7, 10:04*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:33:52 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
> > > wrote:

>
> >> Yes. * *RED BEANS , not kidney bens or any other bean.

>
> > I'd never eaten red beans and rice before I made it, but I used "small
> > red beans" as prescribed. *What an utter and complete disappointment!

>
> I don't mind plain beans and rice. *But with the Cajun seasonings? *No. *Not
> for me.

"
There are no "Cajun seasonings" in the red beans. The only "Cajun"
seasonings are in the andouille sausage that is a part of the meal.
Tobasco adds any heat and that is adjusted to your taste.

http://hizzoners.com/recipes/lunch-s...d-beans-a-rice


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ImStillMags wrote:
> On Feb 7, 10:04 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:33:52 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
>>> > wrote:

>>
>>>> Yes. RED BEANS , not kidney bens or any other bean.

>>
>>> I'd never eaten red beans and rice before I made it, but I used
>>> "small red beans" as prescribed. What an utter and complete
>>> disappointment!

>>
>> I don't mind plain beans and rice. But with the Cajun seasonings?
>> No. Not for me.

> "
> There are no "Cajun seasonings" in the red beans. The only "Cajun"
> seasonings are in the andouille sausage that is a part of the meal.
> Tobasco adds any heat and that is adjusted to your taste.
>
> http://hizzoners.com/recipes/lunch-s...d-beans-a-rice


AFAIK there was no meat of any kind in there. I certainly would not like
sausage! I didn't make them from scratch. First was from Popeyes. They
for sure put a lot of seasoning that I did not like. Next was Zatarains
because my mom said it was good. I didn't think so! No doubt it was the
soy sauce and smoke flavoring in there that I disliked.

Ingredients in Zatarains:


Ingredients:
ENRICHED LONG GRAIN PARBOILED RICE (IRON PHOSPHATE, NIACIN, THIAMINE
MONONITRATE, AND FOLIC ACID), COOKED AND DEHYDRATED RED BEANS, ENRICHED
WHEAT FLOUR (NIACIN, REDUCED IRON, THIAMINE MONONITRATE, RIBOFLAVIN, FOLIC
ACID), MALTED BARLEY FLOUR, SALT, DEHYDRATED VEGETABLES (ONION, BELL
PEPPER), SOY SAUCE (100% SOYBEAN), YEAST EXTRACT, DEXTROSE, SOYBEAN OIL,
THIAMINE HYDROCHLORIDE, NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL FLAVORS, MODIFIED CORN
STARCH, TORULA YEAST, NATURAL SMOKE FLAVOR, GARLIC, CARAMEL COLOR, SPICES.





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On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:12:08 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:33:52 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
> wrote:
>
>> Yes. RED BEANS , not kidney bens or any other bean.

>
>I'd never eaten red beans and rice before I made it, but I used "small
>red beans" as prescribed. What an utter and complete disappointment!


I like it better with kidney beans than either "small red beans" or
the small, red, adzuki beans that I used the first time.

I'll bet that has a lot to do with the fact that for the first 40
years of my life 'beans' meant canned red kidney beans.

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> On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:12:08 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:33:52 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Yes. RED BEANS , not kidney bens or any other bean.

> >
> >I'd never eaten red beans and rice before I made it, but I used "small
> >red beans" as prescribed. What an utter and complete disappointment!

>
> I like it better with kidney beans than either "small red beans" or
> the small, red, adzuki beans that I used the first time.
>

I was actively discouraged from using adzuki beans when I was trying
to figure out which bean to use. Maybe I'll give them a try sometime,
I think I have some on hand.

> I'll bet that has a lot to do with the fact that for the first 40
> years of my life 'beans' meant canned red kidney beans.
>

Your mother sounds like mine. Canned kidney beans only which went
straight into hamburger based chili. The other bean that we ate was
black eyed peas... method: open the can, heat (no added seasoning),
put it on the plate. I liked them anyway. Still do, but I can't
remember the last time I made them - I should remedy that.


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> On Fri, 08 Feb 2013 07:01:40 -0500, Jim Elbrecht >
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:12:08 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:33:52 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes. RED BEANS , not kidney bens or any other bean.
>>>
>>> I'd never eaten red beans and rice before I made it, but I used
>>> "small red beans" as prescribed. What an utter and complete
>>> disappointment!

>>
>> I like it better with kidney beans than either "small red beans" or
>> the small, red, adzuki beans that I used the first time.
>>

> I was actively discouraged from using adzuki beans when I was trying
> to figure out which bean to use. Maybe I'll give them a try sometime,
> I think I have some on hand.
>
>> I'll bet that has a lot to do with the fact that for the first 40
>> years of my life 'beans' meant canned red kidney beans.
>>

> Your mother sounds like mine. Canned kidney beans only which went
> straight into hamburger based chili. The other bean that we ate was
> black eyed peas... method: open the can, heat (no added seasoning),
> put it on the plate. I liked them anyway. Still do, but I can't
> remember the last time I made them - I should remedy that.


Oh yes! We had those too. A lot of them!


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> On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:12:08 -0800, sf > wrote:
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>> On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:33:52 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Yes. RED BEANS , not kidney bens or any other bean.

>>
>> I'd never eaten red beans and rice before I made it, but I used
>> "small red beans" as prescribed. What an utter and complete
>> disappointment!

>
> I like it better with kidney beans than either "small red beans" or
> the small, red, adzuki beans that I used the first time.
>
> I'll bet that has a lot to do with the fact that for the first 40
> years of my life 'beans' meant canned red kidney beans.


When I was a kid it was mostly kidney, garbanzo, chili beans, Shellie beans,
lima beans or navy beans. Took me a few years to realize that refried beans
were not made with kidney!


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On Feb 7, 9:12*pm, sf > wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:33:52 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
>
> > wrote:
> > Yes. * *RED BEANS , not kidney bens or any other bean.

>
> I'd never eaten red beans and rice before I made it, but I used "small
> red beans" as prescribed. *What an utter and complete disappointment!
>
> --
> Food is an important part of a balanced diet.


What about it disappointed you? Did you use andouille?
To me, the biggest part of the flavor of red beans and rice is the
sausage. That is what adds the
personality to the dish.



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On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 07:15:24 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
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> On Feb 7, 9:12*pm, sf > wrote:
> > On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:33:52 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > Yes. * *RED BEANS , not kidney bens or any other bean.

> >
> > I'd never eaten red beans and rice before I made it, but I used "small
> > red beans" as prescribed. *What an utter and complete disappointment!
> >
> > --
> > Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

>
> What about it disappointed you? Did you use andouille?
> To me, the biggest part of the flavor of red beans and rice is the
> sausage. That is what adds the
> personality to the dish.


Yes, I'm sure I used andouille.... but it may have been after Bruce
Aidells changed it. Not sure if he sold his company or what, but
AFAIC quality plummeted when he went national. I used to like his
andouille - not anymore.

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On Feb 8, 9:29*am, sf > wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 07:15:24 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > On Feb 7, 9:12 pm, sf > wrote:
> > > On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:33:52 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags

>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > Yes. RED BEANS , not kidney bens or any other bean.

>
> > > I'd never eaten red beans and rice before I made it, but I used "small
> > > red beans" as prescribed. What an utter and complete disappointment!

>
> > > --
> > > Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

>
> > What about it disappointed you? * Did you use andouille?
> > To me, the biggest part of the flavor of red beans and rice is the
> > sausage. * That is what adds the
> > personality to the dish.

>
> Yes, I'm sure I used andouille.... but it may have been after Bruce
> Aidells changed it. *Not sure if he sold his company or what, but
> AFAIC quality plummeted when he went national. *I used to like his
> andouille - not anymore.
>
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> - Show quoted text -


Yes, Aidells sucks big ones. You need better sausage. Even a
keilbasa is better than Aidells.
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On Thursday, February 7, 2013 4:19:38 PM UTC-6, notbob wrote:
> It's been said by some folks, here, beans all taste the same after
>
> cooking. That one cannot tell which bean was used once the dish is
>
> finished. I think I even agreed. Well, I was wrong, too.
>

There is no shame in *having been* wrong. You are now correct, and deserve
respect for admitting that you were incorrect in the past. Every intelligent
person has made mistakes. Those who are too insecure to modify their
positions in the face of evidence don't deserve respect.
>
> nb


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....
>There is no shame in *having been* wrong. You are now correct, and deserve
>respect for admitting that you were incorrect in the past. Every intelligent
>person has made mistakes. Those who are too insecure to modify their
>positions in the face of evidence don't deserve respect.
>
>--Bryan


Gee, and MAYBE someday you can think and feel outside yourself enough
to apply this theoretical grand-sounding philosophy to ANYONE other
than yourSELF!!

Like that's ever gonna happen!

John Kuthe...
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> On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 21:07:36 -0800 (PST), Bryan
> > wrote:
> ...
>>There is no shame in *having been* wrong. You are now correct, and
>>deserve respect for admitting that you were incorrect in the past.
>>Every intelligent person has made mistakes. Those who are too
>>insecure to modify their positions in the face of evidence don't
>>deserve respect.
>>
>>--Bryan

>
> Gee, and MAYBE someday you can think and feel outside yourself enough
> to apply this theoretical grand-sounding philosophy to ANYONE other
> than yourSELF!!
>
> Like that's ever gonna happen!
>
> John Kuthe...
>



Why don't you two just go get a ****ing room, kiss, do your thing and get
on with life?


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>Why don't you two just go get a ****ing room, kiss, do your thing and get
>on with life?


Because then we would have the pleasure of ****INGYOU OFF!

Non-person!

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> On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 21:11:36 +0000 (UTC), "I'm back" >
> wrote:
> ...
>>Why don't you two just go get a ****ing room, kiss, do your thing and
>>get on with life?

>
> Because then we would have the pleasure of ****INGYOU OFF!
>
> Non-person!
>
> John Kuthe...
>




LOL!!! "Non-person"!!! :-)


BTW, you don't **** me off per se.... you're just an embarassment to the
human race, and everyone cringes when you and your idiot boyfriend get it
on.


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John Kuthe wrote:

> >Why don't you two just go get a ****ing room, kiss, do your thing and get
> >on with life?

>
> Because then we would have the pleasure of ****INGYOU OFF!
> Non-person!


Peetey aspires to have a single person to hate.

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On Friday, February 8, 2013 4:01:04 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 21:07:36 -0800 (PST), Bryan
>
> > wrote:
>
> ...
>
> >There is no shame in *having been* wrong. You are now correct, and deserve

>
> >respect for admitting that you were incorrect in the past. Every intelligent

>
> >person has made mistakes. Those who are too insecure to modify their

>
> >positions in the face of evidence don't deserve respect.

>
> >

>
> >--Bryan

>
>
>
> Gee, and MAYBE someday you can think and feel outside yourself enough
>
> to apply this theoretical grand-sounding philosophy to ANYONE other
>
> than yourSELF!!
>
>
>
> Like that's ever gonna happen!
>
>
>
> John Kuthe...


You know, I've lost a friend or two in the past. I never whined like a little bitch to them to try to get them to take me back. I also didn't try to imply that there was something wrong with them because they didn't enjoy my company. And I certainly wouldn't do it online using my real name. Why don't you just move on with life? Seriously. This fixation you have with Bryan is really disturbing. If I were him, I'd beat the living shit out of your faggot ass.
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> Uh oh! Little miss Billy Butt****er is now threatening me with
> physical violence!


I have it on good authority that Zitty is actually a butt-licker. The last
time he tried ****ing somebody, the guy kept laughing and saying "stop
tickling me!" Turns out he's a natural rimmer though.



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On Friday, February 8, 2013 4:37:31 PM UTC-6, wrote:
> On Friday, February 8, 2013 4:01:04 PM UTC-5, "The Gelding" John Kuthe wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 21:07:36 -0800 (PST), Bryan

>
> >

>
> > > wrote:

>
> >

>
> > ...

>
> >

>
> > >There is no shame in *having been* wrong. You are now correct, and deserve

>
> >

>
> > >respect for admitting that you were incorrect in the past. Every intelligent

>
> >

>
> > >person has made mistakes. Those who are too insecure to modify their

>
> >

>
> > >positions in the face of evidence don't deserve respect.

>
> >

>
> > >

>
> >

>
> > >--Bryan

>
> >

>
> >

>
> >

>
> > Gee, and MAYBE someday you can think and feel outside yourself enough

>
> >

>
> > to apply this theoretical grand-sounding philosophy to ANYONE other

>
> >

>
> > than yourSELF!!

>
> >

>
> >

>
> >

>
> > Like that's ever gonna happen!

>
> >

>
> >

>
> >

>
> > John Kuthe...

>
>
>
> You know, I've lost a friend or two in the past. I never whined like a little bitch to them to try to get them to take me back. I also didn't try to imply that there was something wrong with them because they didn't enjoy my company. And I certainly wouldn't do it online using my real name. Why don't you just move on with life? Seriously. This fixation you have with Bryan is really disturbing. If I were him, I'd beat the living shit out of your faggot ass.


John is not, to my knowledge, homosexual. He's just abandoned being actively heterosexual. His "fixation" with me is silly, but I don't respond to verbal
attacks with violence. I wish he'd get romantically involved with a nice woman, and put his interest in me in the past--and quit posting to Usenet.

--Bryan
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On Friday, February 8, 2013 10:48:32 PM UTC-5, Bryan wrote:
> On Friday, February 8, 2013 4:37:31 PM UTC-6, wrote:
>
> > On Friday, February 8, 2013 4:01:04 PM UTC-5, "The Gelding" John Kuthe wrote:

>
> >

>
> > > On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 21:07:36 -0800 (PST), Bryan

>
> >

>
> > >

>
> >

>
> > > > wrote:

>
> >

>
> > >

>
> >

>
> > > ...

>
> >

>
> > >

>
> >

>
> > > >There is no shame in *having been* wrong. You are now correct, and deserve

>
> >

>
> > >

>
> >

>
> > > >respect for admitting that you were incorrect in the past. Every intelligent

>
> >

>
> > >

>
> >

>
> > > >person has made mistakes. Those who are too insecure to modify their

>
> >

>
> > >

>
> >

>
> > > >positions in the face of evidence don't deserve respect.

>
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As I've said before, I don't think he's a homosexual and if he were I wouldn't care. But he is a little faggot. You and I and he are the same age, and I know you know what I mean by the term "faggot" or "homo". Obviously you can handle the situation with him the way you want. If it were me and I knew where he lived, I would beat him senseless. *I* don't feel any need to beat him down - I'm not the friend he has betrayed online. He means nothing to me. But if I knew him in real life and he said the personal things he's said about you - beat down time.
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Default Bean myth debunked

A more difficult question is the difference between different types of
potatoes. There is a flavor and texture variation. However, more-so
than for beans, there is an incredible variation of quality when
bought from the store.

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Default Bean myth debunked

"notbob" > wrote in message
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> It's been said by some folks, here, beans all taste the same after
> cooking. That one cannot tell which bean was used once the dish is
> finished. I think I even agreed. Well, I was wrong, too.
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> I'm here to tell you is jes ain't so. I jes made up a mess of Cajun
> Red Beans, like Red Beans & Rice. Only, I used great northern dried
> beans. Know what it tastes like? It tastes like great northern beans
> with a whole buncha cajun flavoring. Yep. All the best ingredients.
> Fresh trinity, whole garlic, new bay leaves, Tony Chachere's Creole
> spice, ham, sausage, Louisiana Hot Sauce, etc. Actually, it tastes
> great!! But, it tastes like a great pot of Cajun great northern
> beans, not classic Cajun red beans. So, if ya' want the real deal,
> use red beans.
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> nb


I'm not crazy about kidney beans, he-who-is-not-Bob.

Sometimes I buy a can of chili beans and whip up a quickie chili when
nobody's looking.

If I get beans in a burrito I have a choice between bland pinto beans and
overpowering black beans. I'll take the overpowering black beans.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)


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