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I've been eating pistachios, in the shell, lately. Also some in-shell
peanuts. I'm really craving them. I wonder if I'm craving the vitamins or omega-3 oils in the nuts? Or maybe I"m craving the salt? Or because their roasted? Or because they stay fresher in their shell, kind of like a snack pack of cookies? Or the fat? http://caloriecount.about.com/forums/foods/craving-nuts W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.) |
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Christopher M. wrote:
> I've been eating pistachios, in the shell, lately. Also some in-shell > peanuts. > > I'm really craving them. > > I wonder if I'm craving the vitamins or omega-3 oils in the nuts? > > Or maybe I"m craving the salt? > > Or because their roasted? > > Or because they stay fresher in their shell, kind of like a snack > pack of cookies? > > Or the fat? > > http://caloriecount.about.com/forums/foods/craving-nuts > > > W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.) Nuts are good for you. Almonds have a great nutritional profile. Peanuts aren't nuts. Roasting brings out the flavor - I regularly buy almonds, peanuts, and cashews already dry-roasted. I don't think anyone craves vitamins or omega-3's - what do those things taste like? I think you can crave salt, and fat. -S- |
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On Thursday, February 7, 2013 1:36:25 PM UTC-6, Steve Freides wrote:
> Christopher M. wrote: > > > I've been eating pistachios, in the shell, lately. Also some in-shell > > > peanuts. > > > > > > I'm really craving them. > > > > > > I wonder if I'm craving the vitamins or omega-3 oils in the nuts? > > > > > > Or maybe I"m craving the salt? > > > > > > Or because their roasted? > > > > > > Or because they stay fresher in their shell, kind of like a snack > > > pack of cookies? > > > > > > Or the fat? > > > > > > http://caloriecount.about.com/forums/foods/craving-nuts > > > > > > > > > W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.) > > > > Nuts are good for you. Almonds have a great nutritional profile. > Yes they do. So do pecans, macadamias, hazelnuts ans cashews. > > Peanuts aren't nuts. > No, they are not. > > Roasting brings out the flavor - I regularly buy almonds, peanuts, and > > cashews already dry-roasted. > Peanuts and cashews are the two nuts that I prefer roasted. Everything else, I'd rather have raw. Roasting changes the flavors. As much as I love raw almonds, I don't even really like roasted ones. > > I don't think anyone craves vitamins or omega-3's - what do those things > > taste like? I think you can crave salt, and fat. > Christopher is "a Bear of Little Brain." > > -S- --Bryan |
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John J wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:55:58 -0800 (PST), Bryan > > wrote: > >> On Thursday, February 7, 2013 1:36:25 PM UTC-6, Steve Freides wrote: > >>> Nuts are good for you. Almonds have a great nutritional profile. >>> >> Yes they do. So do pecans, macadamias, hazelnuts ans cashews. > > Mwoah. > > "[Macadania nuts] have the highest amount of monounsaturated fats of > any known seed and contain approximately 22% of omega-7 palmitoleic > acid,[8] which has biological effects similar to saturated fat." > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macadamia) And you think this is bad - why? -S- |
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On Thursday, February 7, 2013 5:00:35 PM UTC-6, Steve Freides wrote:
> John J wrote: > > > On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:55:58 -0800 (PST), Bryan > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> On Thursday, February 7, 2013 1:36:25 PM UTC-6, Steve Freides wrote: > > > > > >>> Nuts are good for you. Almonds have a great nutritional profile. > > >>> > > >> Yes they do. So do pecans, macadamias, hazelnuts ans cashews. > > > > > > Mwoah. > > > > > > "[Macadania nuts] have the highest amount of monounsaturated fats of > > > any known seed and contain approximately 22% of omega-7 palmitoleic > > > acid,[8] which has biological effects similar to saturated fat." > > > > > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macadamia) > > > > And you think this is bad - why? > Well, the effect on plasma lipids appears to be quite negative- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8006520 Generally, it's 18 carbons, good; 16 carbons (and 14 and to a lesser extent, 12), bad. It seems like there is quite a bit of buzz out there about the benefits of palmitoleic acid- http://www.lipidworld.com/content/10/1/120 It seems that palmitoleic as a free fatty acid in the bloodstream was beneficial, but in the mouse study, the palmitoleic was injected, and I didn't read anything about how much of the palmitoleic is converted into palmitic by the liver. This is real-ass interesting. Hey, did you see my cocoa butter snack post? I think one thing is for sure now; the 18 carbon saturated fat, stearic acid, which cocoa butter is high in, is good stuff. It's not primarily the monounsaturated characteristic of high oleic oils that are so healthful, but the 18 carbon chain length, and it is only the Omega-9 trans 18 carbon that is bad news--*really* bad news. For now, the only thing that limits my consumption of macadamias is the cost. Raw macadamias are totally delicious, and the roasted ones are pretty good too. IMO, the only nuts that are better cooked are cashews, which taste weird raw. Peanuts and sunflower seeds--neither of which are nuts--also need to be cooked to taste good. > > -S- --Bryan |
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On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 20:10:01 -0800 (PST), Bryan
> wrote: .... Obsessing more on fats? Showing off knowledge anyone can get off the Internet today? Too bad you don't have any degrees or real education. John Kuthe... |
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On Thursday, February 7, 2013 6:49:54 PM UTC-6, John J wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 18:00:35 -0500, "Steve Freides" > > > wrote: > > > > >John J wrote: > > >> On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:55:58 -0800 (PST), Bryan > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > >>> On Thursday, February 7, 2013 1:36:25 PM UTC-6, Steve Freides wrote: > > >> > > >>>> Nuts are good for you. Almonds have a great nutritional profile. > > >>>> > > >>> Yes they do. So do pecans, macadamias, hazelnuts ans cashews. > > >> > > >> Mwoah. > > >> > > >> "[Macadania nuts] have the highest amount of monounsaturated fats of > > >> any known seed and contain approximately 22% of omega-7 palmitoleic > > >> acid,[8] which has biological effects similar to saturated fat." > > >> > > >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macadamia) > > > > > >And you think this is bad - why? > > Because saturated fat's bad for you. > Steve F. knows so much more about fatty acids that you that it isn't even funny. Few other than me can even engage in a reasonable discussion with him about dietary fats. I disagree with him about certain saturated fats, but those finer points are *way* beyond your knowledge set. > > -- > > John --Bryan |
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John J wrote:
> Because saturated fat's bad for you. John, a very simple rule to follow - man-made fats aren't good for you. Naturally occurring fats are fine. It doesn't have to be more complicated than The typical man-made fats are "hydrogenated." These are the fats to stay away from. The idea that dietary fat and cholesterol from natural sources are bad for you is simply not true. You don't need to concern yourself with the kind of fat found in nuts. -S- |
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On Friday, February 8, 2013 7:51:47 PM UTC-6, John J wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:29:16 -0500, "Steve Freides" > > > wrote: > > > > >John J wrote: > > > > > >> Because saturated fat's bad for you. > > > > > >John, a very simple rule to follow - man-made fats aren't good for you. > > >Naturally occurring fats are fine. It doesn't have to be more > > >complicated than The typical man-made fats are "hydrogenated." These > > >are the fats to stay away from. > > > > > >The idea that dietary fat and cholesterol from natural sources are bad > > >for you is simply not true. You don't need to concern yourself with the > > >kind of fat found in nuts. > > > > But how about this then: > > > > "Adopt a diet low in salt, saturated and transfats and high in > > unsaturated fats (fish, avocado, etc.) like the Mediterranean Diet." > > > > This is a recommendation for reducing the risk of heart disease, from > > the US Heart Foundation (and probably all the other countries' heart > > foundations). > > (http://www.theheartfoundation.org/he...ing-your-risk/) > > > > They distinguish between saturated and unsaturated. Are they wrong? > Yes, they are, and Steve gets it more than halfway. He just doesn't acknowledge that certain natural saturated fatty acids *are* bad. The 18 carbon, fully saturated, stearic acid is healthful, and the reason that they make the saturated/unsaturated distinction is because they assume that folks can't make those distinctions. However much you dislike me, you really ought to take what I write about fatty acids into advisement. I'm not asking you to believe me, but to delve deeper into the subject. My disagreement with Steve is over the 16 and 14, and to a somewhat lesser extent, the 12 carbon fatty acids. We do not disagree about other fats, and I certainly do not want him to die. I regularly consume a food high in palmitic and myristic acids, butter fat, mostly in the form of half&half in my coffee, but I get so much pleasure from it that I accept the risk. > > -- > > John --Bryan |
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John J wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:29:16 -0500, "Steve Freides" > > wrote: > >> John J wrote: >> >>> Because saturated fat's bad for you. >> >> John, a very simple rule to follow - man-made fats aren't good for >> you. Naturally occurring fats are fine. It doesn't have to be more >> complicated than The typical man-made fats are "hydrogenated." >> These are the fats to stay away from. >> >> The idea that dietary fat and cholesterol from natural sources are >> bad for you is simply not true. You don't need to concern yourself >> with the kind of fat found in nuts. > > But how about this then: > > "Adopt a diet low in salt, saturated and transfats and high in > unsaturated fats (fish, avocado, etc.) like the Mediterranean Diet." > > This is a recommendation for reducing the risk of heart disease, from > the US Heart Foundation (and probably all the other countries' heart > foundations). > (http://www.theheartfoundation.org/he...ing-your-risk/) > > They distinguish between saturated and unsaturated. Are they wrong? Yes, they are wrong. Bryan's points are relevant but I don't think most of us benefit from that level of detail in our discussion of dietary fat and serum cholesterol. I also don't see any point in rehashing what's been hashed out a million times before. There is conflicting information out there - read and decide for yourself, but don't just read from a single source, and don't assume that that anything you read is unbiased. To my simple mind, it makes sense that food from natural sources is, with rare exception, good for you. If you haven't realized that much of what's sold in your grocery store exists to make a profit and not to provide the best nourishment, then I can't help you. Again, I recommend the book, "The Great Cholesterol Con" - I don't wish to summarize the entire book but you can go on amazon.com and read the reviews. -S- |
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[quote=John J Because saturated fat's bad for you. John[/QUOTE]
No no. Saturated fat is very good for you. Whatever dumb doctor who started the rumor to the contrary should be hoss whupped. |
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![]() "Steve Freides" > wrote in message ... > Christopher M. wrote: >> I've been eating pistachios, in the shell, lately. Also some in-shell >> peanuts. >> >> I'm really craving them. >> >> I wonder if I'm craving the vitamins or omega-3 oils in the nuts? >> >> Or maybe I"m craving the salt? >> >> Or because their roasted? >> >> Or because they stay fresher in their shell, kind of like a snack >> pack of cookies? >> >> Or the fat? >> >> http://caloriecount.about.com/forums/foods/craving-nuts >> >> >> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.) > > Nuts are good for you. Almonds have a great nutritional profile. > > Peanuts aren't nuts. I seem to be craving pistachios more than peanuts. Although I like the novely of cracking the peanut shells. W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.) |
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On Feb 7, 12:31*pm, "Christopher M." > wrote:
> "Steve Freides" > wrote in message > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > Christopher M. wrote: > >> I've been eating pistachios, in the shell, lately. Also some in-shell > >> peanuts. > > >> I'm really craving them. > > >> I wonder if I'm craving the vitamins or omega-3 oils in the nuts? > > >> Or maybe I"m craving the salt? > > >> Or because their roasted? > > >> Or because they stay fresher in their shell, kind of like a snack > >> pack of cookies? > > >> Or the fat? > > >>http://caloriecount.about.com/forums/foods/craving-nuts > > >> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.) > > > Nuts are good for you. *Almonds have a great nutritional profile. > > > Peanuts aren't nuts. > > I seem to be craving pistachios more than peanuts. Although I like the > novely of cracking the peanut shells. > > W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.) Give you a piece of string and you'll stay occupied for hours! |
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![]() "Steve Freides" > wrote in message ... > Christopher M. wrote: >> I've been eating pistachios, in the shell, lately. Also some in-shell >> peanuts. >> >> I'm really craving them. >> >> I wonder if I'm craving the vitamins or omega-3 oils in the nuts? >> >> Or maybe I"m craving the salt? >> >> Or because their roasted? >> >> Or because they stay fresher in their shell, kind of like a snack >> pack of cookies? >> >> Or the fat? >> >> http://caloriecount.about.com/forums/foods/craving-nuts >> >> >> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.) > > Nuts are good for you. Almonds have a great nutritional profile. > > Peanuts aren't nuts. > > Roasting brings out the flavor - I regularly buy almonds, peanuts, and > cashews already dry-roasted. > > I don't think anyone craves vitamins or omega-3's - what do those things > taste like? I think you can crave salt, and fat. > > -S- Actually I do. I once had severe cravings for tabbouli, a food that I don't normally even think about. Turns out I was lacking in magnesium. Recently I had a severe craving for tomatoes but had none. I popped open a small can of tomato sauce, ate three bites and the craving was gone. People who are low on iron can sometimes have Pica, which is a craving for things like laundry starch, or even dirt. |
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Your body craves what its missing, not necessarily a flavor. I.e. you crave chocolate for the fat, potatoes for the irons and minerals not necessarily for the flavor
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On 11/1/2017 11:01 AM, Casa de los peregrinos wrote:
> formulated the question : >> Your body craves what its missing, not necessarily a flavor. I.e. you >> crave chocolate for the fat, potatoes for the irons and minerals not >> necessarily for the flavor >> > > https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kYfov5eg2lA/maxresdefault.jpg sqwerty forged |
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![]() "Christopher M." > wrote in message ... > I've been eating pistachios, in the shell, lately. Also some in-shell > peanuts. > > I'm really craving them. > > I wonder if I'm craving the vitamins or omega-3 oils in the nuts? > > Or maybe I"m craving the salt? > > Or because their roasted? > > Or because they stay fresher in their shell, kind of like a snack pack of > cookies? > > Or the fat? > > http://caloriecount.about.com/forums/foods/craving-nuts Perhaps you are pregnant ... ![]() -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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Don't you get your daily allotment by reading rfc on a daily basis?
-- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On 2/7/2013 1:53 PM, Christopher M. wrote:
> I've been eating pistachios, in the shell, lately. Also some in-shell > peanuts. > > I'm really craving them. > > I wonder if I'm craving the vitamins or omega-3 oils in the nuts? > > Or maybe I"m craving the salt? > > Or because their roasted? > > Or because they stay fresher in their shell, kind of like a snack pack of > cookies? > > Or the fat? > > http://caloriecount.about.com/forums/foods/craving-nuts > > > W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.) > > You are addicted like me! Well, I am told that pistachios are good for the heart! -- Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD) Extraneous "not" in Reply To. |
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![]() "Christopher M." > wrote in message ... > I've been eating pistachios, in the shell, lately. Also some in-shell > peanuts. > > I'm really craving them. > > I wonder if I'm craving the vitamins or omega-3 oils in the nuts? > > Or maybe I"m craving the salt? > > Or because their roasted? > > Or because they stay fresher in their shell, kind of like a snack pack of > cookies? > > Or the fat? > > http://caloriecount.about.com/forums/foods/craving-nuts > > > W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.) Most likely it is some nutrient in them. Pistachios are high in potassium. Peanuts contain a lot of stuff. Here's a link: http://www.nutrition-and-you.com/peanuts.html |
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Maybe you're going nuts
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I will vote for the salt fetish angle.
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