I always thought that I wanted Corian counter tops but these days I'm not so
sure about that. Seems kind of old fashioned. And I do like the looks of
granite. But I REALLY like quartz! Is that even feasible to make a counter
top out of? I just don't know. I love pink and purple quartz. But that
wouldn't go with the black and red colors that I like in a kitchen. But if
I could get the quartz I would abandon the notion of the red and black and
switch over to pastel colors.

I have always wanted a nice big island, perhaps with a small sink in it.
For washing vegetables and such. A place where you can put stools for
people to sit would be nice too.

As for appliances I do like the look of those retro looking ones. Like from
the 1950's and that would fit in with either my red and black or pastel
tones. But... I also like the commercial kinds of freezers and fridges
with the glass doors so that you could see right in there. I'd also like a
countertop glass doored fridge for drinks. And I would want enough freezer
capacity so that I don't have to go out to the garage to get something.

Of course there would be plenty of counters and cupboards. Probably twice
as much as I think I need. And a pantry. If not a walk in one then at least
two of the built in ones. We had those in the military housing. And for as
much as I could complain about things in military housing, that was one
super nice thing to have!

I like the built in place that I have now for my microwave. Much better
than having a built in microwave I would think. And I would like some sort
of little area in there where I could have media type stuff. Like maybe a
laptop or an Ipad, small TV, or a radio. And a place for a phone where I
wouldn't have to reach around stuff and bend like a pretzel to get it like I
do now. And then tell the caller that I have to switch to another phone
because I don't like to stand on one foot and lean towards the wall to talk.
Because that phone has such a short cord on it. And no, I can't get a phone
with a longer cord because the door to the outside is right next to it and
when I did have such a phone, somebody was always shutting the cord in the
door or it would hang down over the edge of the counter and somebody would
trip over it.

My ideal floor would be easy to clean and have some sort of cushioning under
it. Do they even make such a thing?

I would also like a hot water dispenser. Do they still make those? Some
years ago they had the Insinkerators that did that. The Frugal Gourmet used
his to blanch his vegetables. But... When I looked them up I saw something
about them overheating and causing fires.

And I would like that hose thing by the stove. Yes, I know I would still
have to dump the pasta water in the sink. But hey! In this dream I am
wealthy and can have anything I want.

Oh and I would also like a nice area in there just for the cats. They would
have their own little counter with a sink for washing their little dishes
and fountain. Their own cupboard for their food and treats. And a place
for them to eat. And of course they would still have their barstools like
they do now. They love to sit in there and watch me cook but I dislike them
being on the counters. So they have barstools. I would probably get them
little chef hats too. But they probably wouldn't wear them.

Oh and... Since I'm wealthy in this dream I might as well have a little
Starbucks in there with a 24 hour barista. Then my daughter and husband
could have their coffee whenever they wanted it.

So what would your dream kitchen be like?

On 1/7/13 8:09 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> So what would your dream kitchen be like?

Pretty much anything without you in it.

-- Larry

On 1/7/2013 7:09 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

> So what would your dream kitchen be like?
>
It would have a full time chef and scullions. The chef would shop, plan
and execute the meals after,of course, conferring with me and the
scullion would do all the clean up.

I can dream, can't I?



--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

pltrgyst wrote:
> On 1/7/13 8:09 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> So what would your dream kitchen be like?
>
> Pretty much anything without you in it.
>
> -- Larry

Now see? I made what I think is a relavent post. I didn't attack anyone.
I didn't say anything nasty or rude. And yet instead of giving a relavent
reply, you say a mean thing to me. I just don't get it.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> So what would your dream kitchen be like?

Three large steam jacketed kettles.
One large electric griddle.
Three electric brick ovens only more head room than for pizza.
One large deep fryer.
One large stand mixer.
Walk-in fridge/freezer.
Two large heavy double SS steel sinks... heavy SS counters all around.
All hardwood baker's station.
All commercial kitchen accouterments (meat slicer/grinder, veggie
peeler/slicer, cutlery, etc.).
Terrazzo decks with drains, SS bulkheads, two portholes for cross
ventilation. That's right, I'd want my galley back.

"Julie Bove" wrote:
> pltrgyst wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> So what would your dream kitchen be like?
>>
>> Pretty much anything without you in it.
>
>Now see? I made what I think is a relavent post. I didn't attack anyone.
>I didn't say anything nasty or rude. And yet instead of giving a relavent
>reply, you say a mean thing to me. I just don't get it.

What's not to get, Larrrrwy the Lisssthper doesn't have an intelligent
reply.

Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 1/7/2013 7:09 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> So what would your dream kitchen be like?
>>
> It would have a full time chef and scullions. The chef would shop,
> plan and execute the meals after,of course, conferring with me and the
> scullion would do all the clean up.
>
> I can dream, can't I?

Ah... Angela has often asked if we could have a chef. But I actually like
to prepare my own food. I *would* like to have someone to do the prep work
because chopping stuff is just not fun to me. Angela actually likes doing
the chopping but is either busy with something else or not here when I need
it done. And I would like to have someone to do all of the clean up and put
stuff away.

I really love on those cooking shows when they take the extra stuff and put
it down somewhere under where they are working. Oh to be able to do that
and have someone else deal with it!

Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> So what would your dream kitchen be like?
>
> Three large steam jacketed kettles.
> One large electric griddle.
> Three electric brick ovens only more head room than for pizza.
> One large deep fryer.
> One large stand mixer.
> Walk-in fridge/freezer.
> Two large heavy double SS steel sinks... heavy SS counters all around.
> All hardwood baker's station.
> All commercial kitchen accouterments (meat slicer/grinder, veggie
> peeler/slicer, cutlery, etc.).
> Terrazzo decks with drains, SS bulkheads, two

Oooh! Walk in fridge/freezer. I hadn't thought of that. I did venture
into the one at Smart and Final/Cash and Carry but I didn't get far because
it was so cold in there! And it did look like most everything was sold in
amounts too large for us.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> Self-cleaning would be the most important feature. Otherwise I'm fine
> with what I have. I am not a material person.
>
> -sw

We have the dream kitchen. The couple who built this house apparently needed
Two Kitchens and they are side by side. He hunted and fished and she didn't
want his productions in her kitchen. It is wonderful. I can do a tight
cooking or spread twenty feet as needed. Always plenty of room to store and
do about anything. What more I would like? Company. Kind of lonesome here.
That's why I visit with you - as contrary as some of you wander now and
then. Polly

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> Self-cleaning would be the most important feature. Otherwise I'm fine
> with what I have. I am not a material person.

Oh yeah! One of my high school friends was the manager at KFC. He took us
into the kitchen after hours and showed us how they cleaned. There was this
hose with a special nozzle on it that reached all parts of the kitchen. It
sprayed hot water. Everything got sprayed down. Floor, counters, walls...

On Monday, January 7, 2013 7:09:22 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:

> So what would your dream kitchen be like?

By numerous accounts a Pacojet would be nice, a lot of counter & storage space, the right lighting to produce videos.

"Polly Esther" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Self-cleaning would be the most important feature. Otherwise I'm fine
>> with what I have. I am not a material person.
>>
>> -sw
>
> We have the dream kitchen. The couple who built this house apparently
> needed Two Kitchens and they are side by side. He hunted and fished and
> she didn't want his productions in her kitchen. It is wonderful. I can do
> a tight cooking or spread twenty feet as needed. Always plenty of room to
> store and do about anything. What more I would like? Company. Kind of
> lonesome here. That's why I visit with you - as contrary as some of you
> wander now and then. Polly

Yeah. We're kind of isolated out here. We were going to look at a house
near where my friend lives but my husband vetoed it before we even went in.
It was very close to the freeway and noisy. Wouldn't bother me but it would
him. I have no friends in this city and don't even know most of my
neighbors now. The few people I did know who lived here have moved away.

On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 19:00:50 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> pltrgyst wrote:
> > On 1/7/13 8:09 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>
> >> So what would your dream kitchen be like?
> >
> > Pretty much anything without you in it.
> >
> > -- Larry
>
> Now see? I made what I think is a relavent post. I didn't attack anyone.
> I didn't say anything nasty or rude. And yet instead of giving a relavent
> reply, you say a mean thing to me. I just don't get it.
>
I replied and then deleted it Julie. I have an ideal kitchen that has
many of the elements of yours (I would kill for a real pantry and I
know they tore one out at one point because the evidence is still on
the siding), but it wouldn't work in this house and I'm never going to
move so I've pretty much given up the impossible dream.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 23:12:11 -0600, "Polly Esther"
> wrote:

>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Self-cleaning would be the most important feature. Otherwise I'm fine
> > with what I have. I am not a material person.
> >
> > -sw
>
> We have the dream kitchen. The couple who built this house apparently needed
> Two Kitchens and they are side by side. He hunted and fished and she didn't
> want his productions in her kitchen. It is wonderful. I can do a tight
> cooking or spread twenty feet as needed. Always plenty of room to store and
> do about anything. What more I would like? Company. Kind of lonesome here.
> That's why I visit with you - as contrary as some of you wander now and
> then. Polly

Wow! I've always thought two kitchens would be fantastic, but I
visualized them on different floors not together - your situation
would really help when the kids are over and everyone is cooking.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 21:15:58 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Self-cleaning would be the most important feature. Otherwise I'm fine
> > with what I have. I am not a material person.
>
> Oh yeah! One of my high school friends was the manager at KFC. He took us
> into the kitchen after hours and showed us how they cleaned. There was this
> hose with a special nozzle on it that reached all parts of the kitchen. It
> sprayed hot water. Everything got sprayed down. Floor, counters, walls...
>
Thanks, I've always wondered how they do it. Haven't seen that
mentioned yet on Restaurant Rescue and related shows.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 21:15:58 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Self-cleaning would be the most important feature. Otherwise I'm fine
>> > with what I have. I am not a material person.
>>
>> Oh yeah! One of my high school friends was the manager at KFC. He took
>> us
>> into the kitchen after hours and showed us how they cleaned. There was
>> this
>> hose with a special nozzle on it that reached all parts of the kitchen.
>> It
>> sprayed hot water. Everything got sprayed down. Floor, counters,
>> walls...
>>
> Thanks, I've always wondered how they do it. Haven't seen that
> mentioned yet on Restaurant Rescue and related shows.

I'm sure at times they must do additional cleaning but that was how they
ended the day each night.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 19:00:50 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> pltrgyst wrote:
>> > On 1/7/13 8:09 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >>
>> >> So what would your dream kitchen be like?
>> >
>> > Pretty much anything without you in it.
>> >
>> > -- Larry
>>
>> Now see? I made what I think is a relavent post. I didn't attack
>> anyone.
>> I didn't say anything nasty or rude. And yet instead of giving a
>> relavent
>> reply, you say a mean thing to me. I just don't get it.
>>
> I replied and then deleted it Julie. I have an ideal kitchen that has
> many of the elements of yours (I would kill for a real pantry and I
> know they tore one out at one point because the evidence is still on
> the siding), but it wouldn't work in this house and I'm never going to
> move so I've pretty much given up the impossible dream.

Yeah. Same here. And I never buy lottery tickets so not gonna win that!

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 23:12:11 -0600, "Polly Esther"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Self-cleaning would be the most important feature. Otherwise I'm fine
>> > with what I have. I am not a material person.
>> >
>> > -sw
>>
>> We have the dream kitchen. The couple who built this house apparently
>> needed
>> Two Kitchens and they are side by side. He hunted and fished and she
>> didn't
>> want his productions in her kitchen. It is wonderful. I can do a tight
>> cooking or spread twenty feet as needed. Always plenty of room to store
>> and
>> do about anything. What more I would like? Company. Kind of lonesome
>> here.
>> That's why I visit with you - as contrary as some of you wander now and
>> then. Polly
>
> Wow! I've always thought two kitchens would be fantastic, but I
> visualized them on different floors not together - your situation
> would really help when the kids are over and everyone is cooking.

When we were looking at houses, we found one with two kitchens but on
different levels. Very strange house and although it had a nice view, we
didn't want it for a variety of reasons. For one you had to sort of drive
between two other houses and behind them to get to it. And it had a super
steep driveway. The yard was so tiny that it was literally just a few feet
bordering the house. The real estate agent did point out that it had a deck
that pretty much surrounded the house but again it didn't jut out very far.
I pointed out that Angela wouldn't have been able to even jump rope on it!
Plus the railing that was on it didn't look safe for a child.

The upstairs had a really large kitchen but it was strange colors and
mismatched appliances. Wall oven of one color. Then an island with the
burners on it. Side by side fridge of another color still. I think the
dishwasher was the same color as the fridge but clearly a different make and
design. All of the appliances were decrepit looking and filthy. No attempt
had been made to clean the kitchen. Sticky stuff spilled in the drawers,
crumbs, even coins in there. I didn't even bother to count the cupboards to
see if there were enough. Or check for a pantry. Overall it was a huge
kitchen but in need of a lot of work. As I recall, some of the front pieces
were missing from the Formica countertops and I think maybe a door or two
was missing from the cupboards.

There were two small bedrooms upstairs, one full bath and I think I half
bath. The laundry was upstairs but it was in a closet. I don't recall a
dining room and the kitchen although large had no room for a table. Could
be maybe the table was supposed to go on the other side of the kitchen
island. But that would have made for a tight fit. Living room was small.

Then down the stairs that were not finished in any way. HUGE kitchen down
there. But the only appliance was another fridge, also filthy. But the
cupboards and counters down there were a total mishmash of colors and
styles. As though they took stuff from old houses that were being torn down
and attempted to make something out of them. Just a hole where the sink
should go. And I think they only had part of the floor finished.

There was a very nice but small full bathroom down there which was probably
the only nice thing down there.

Then there was what they called a bedroom at the back of this strange space
but... You had to duck into this opening that was about 3 feet high (I'm
probably exaggerating but it's how I remember it) covered with a black piece
of fabric to enter the room. The closet had no door but another black piece
of fabric hanging there. Cement floor and concrete block walls but it was a
large room. But it was also dimly lit with only one oddly hanging shop type
light and no window. So just a totally weird place. And it wasn't cheap!
I think at the time they were asking over $300,000.00 for it which really
was kind of the bottom of the barrel for a 3 bedroom house in this area. We
paid less than that for this house but it and maybe 3 or 4 others were
really the only ones that were anywhere near close to our price range which
was $250,000.00.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...

> So what would your dream kitchen be like?

A husband who cooks. :-)

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> So what would your dream kitchen be like?
>
> A husband who cooks. :-)

Ohhhhhhh... I know some who think they can cook. But...

On 1/8/2013 12:56 AM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 23:12:11 -0600, "Polly Esther"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Self-cleaning would be the most important feature. Otherwise I'm fine
>>> with what I have. I am not a material person.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>> We have the dream kitchen. The couple who built this house apparently needed
>> Two Kitchens and they are side by side. He hunted and fished and she didn't
>> want his productions in her kitchen. It is wonderful. I can do a tight
>> cooking or spread twenty feet as needed. Always plenty of room to store and
>> do about anything. What more I would like? Company. Kind of lonesome here.
>> That's why I visit with you - as contrary as some of you wander now and
>> then. Polly
>
> Wow! I've always thought two kitchens would be fantastic, but I
> visualized them on different floors not together - your situation
> would really help when the kids are over and everyone is cooking.
>
My maternal grandmother had two kitchens. But, as you say sf, one was
upstairs and the other was in the basement. She used the basement
kitchen for canning and anything that might get messy (like a big pot of
tomato sauce). She was a neat-freak. She didn't want the upstairs
kitchen, which was the one people saw when they came in the side door,
to be messy.

The basement kitchen used to be the upstairs kitchen. What I mean by
that is at some point they remodeled. Grandpa installed all the
cabinets and appliances and the old fridge downstairs for her. (He was
very handy!) I've seen photos of it from the 1940's when it was still
the only kitchen, upstairs. Talk about retro, it was the real deal!
The cabinets were white metal with chrome handles.

Jill

On 1/7/2013 8:09 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> So what would your dream kitchen be like?
>
>
I don't really have a "dream kitchen" in mind. It would be nice to have
one really deep pot sink along with the regular sink. It would make
washing some things easier.

Jill

On 1/8/2013 12:15 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Self-cleaning would be the most important feature. Otherwise I'm fine
>> with what I have. I am not a material person.
>
> Oh yeah! One of my high school friends was the manager at KFC. He took us
> into the kitchen after hours and showed us how they cleaned. There was this
> hose with a special nozzle on it that reached all parts of the kitchen. It
> sprayed hot water. Everything got sprayed down. Floor, counters, walls...
>
>
Put floor drains in your dream kitchen

Jill

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> So what would your dream kitchen be like?
>
> Three large steam jacketed kettles.
> One large electric griddle.
> Three electric brick ovens only more head room than for pizza.
> One large deep fryer.
> One large stand mixer.
> Walk-in fridge/freezer.
> Two large heavy double SS steel sinks... heavy SS counters all around.
> All hardwood baker's station.
> All commercial kitchen accouterments (meat slicer/grinder, veggie
> peeler/slicer, cutlery, etc.).
> Terrazzo decks with drains, SS bulkheads, two portholes for cross
> ventilation. That's right, I'd want my galley back.

I was beginning to wonder ...

--
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http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/8/2013 12:56 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 23:12:11 -0600, "Polly Esther"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Self-cleaning would be the most important feature. Otherwise I'm fine
>>>> with what I have. I am not a material person.
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>
>>> We have the dream kitchen. The couple who built this house apparently
>>> needed
>>> Two Kitchens and they are side by side. He hunted and fished and she
>>> didn't
>>> want his productions in her kitchen. It is wonderful. I can do a tight
>>> cooking or spread twenty feet as needed. Always plenty of room to store
>>> and
>>> do about anything. What more I would like? Company. Kind of lonesome
>>> here.
>>> That's why I visit with you - as contrary as some of you wander now and
>>> then. Polly
>>
>> Wow! I've always thought two kitchens would be fantastic, but I
>> visualized them on different floors not together - your situation
>> would really help when the kids are over and everyone is cooking.
>>
> My maternal grandmother had two kitchens. But, as you say sf, one was
> upstairs and the other was in the basement. She used the basement kitchen
> for canning and anything that might get messy (like a big pot of tomato
> sauce). She was a neat-freak. She didn't want the upstairs kitchen,
> which was the one people saw when they came in the side door, to be messy.
>
> The basement kitchen used to be the upstairs kitchen. What I mean by that
> is at some point they remodeled. Grandpa installed all the cabinets and
> appliances and the old fridge downstairs for her. (He was very handy!)
> I've seen photos of it from the 1940's when it was still the only kitchen,
> upstairs. Talk about retro, it was the real deal! The cabinets were white
> metal with chrome handles.

I had one of those all in one units at a place where I lived. Was white
with chrome handles. Drain boards on either side of the sink, also white
metal. There was a drawer on either side, a cabinet on either side and one
underneath the sink. No cabinets above. Just shelves. I made red and
black curtains for the shelves to match my canisters that I had at the time.
To the right of the shelves was a small piece of counter that was edged in
chrome. I can't remember the top color but I want to say some sort of print
that was mainly tan. And at the rounded end was a couple of black knick
knack shelves. there was black wood underneath but it was open on either
side. At the kitchen side I had a little red cart for potatoes and onions
and a red trash can. On the other side I had a peach crate from Peaches
Records and of course I stored my records in it.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/7/2013 8:09 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> So what would your dream kitchen be like?
>>
>>
> I don't really have a "dream kitchen" in mind. It would be nice to have
> one really deep pot sink along with the regular sink. It would make
> washing some things easier.

Yes. I have a few pots that won't fit in the double sink very well.

On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 22:29:10 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:24:00 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> Three large steam jacketed kettles.
>> One large electric griddle.
>> Three electric brick ovens only more head room than for pizza.
>> One large deep fryer.
>> One large stand mixer.
>> Walk-in fridge/freezer.
>> Two large heavy double SS steel sinks... heavy SS counters all around.
>> All hardwood baker's station.
>> All commercial kitchen accouterments (meat slicer/grinder, veggie
>> peeler/slicer, cutlery, etc.).
>> Terrazzo decks with drains, SS bulkheads, two portholes for cross
>> ventilation. That's right, I'd want my galley back.
>
>It's too bad you still cook like you're in that galley, too.
>
>I have one of your steam kettles right here in my living room. Two
>layer copper with brass fittings and lid. Cast iron frame.
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/sqwertz...ream/lightbox/
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/sqwertz...ream/lightbox/
>
>-sw

That's a copper kettle but it's not steam jacketed. Mine were double
walled with a space between for live steam... they were all SS but the
correct nomenclature for such an apparatus is a "kopper".
http://www.basequipment.com/Steam-Ke...FQSg4AodWDMAyQ

Fridge with a foot-operated door opener.

On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 08:06:52 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 1/8/2013 12:15 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Self-cleaning would be the most important feature. Otherwise I'm fine
> >> with what I have. I am not a material person.
> >
> > Oh yeah! One of my high school friends was the manager at KFC. He took us
> > into the kitchen after hours and showed us how they cleaned. There was this
> > hose with a special nozzle on it that reached all parts of the kitchen. It
> > sprayed hot water. Everything got sprayed down. Floor, counters, walls...
> >
> >
> Put floor drains in your dream kitchen
>
Good idea. Make it an industrial floor instead of wood and you can
cover them with rugs without worrying about how wood darkens as it
ages due to exposure to light.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 08:04:57 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 1/7/2013 8:09 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > So what would your dream kitchen be like?
> >
> >
> I don't really have a "dream kitchen" in mind. It would be nice to have
> one really deep pot sink along with the regular sink. It would make
> washing some things easier.
>
My sink is deep, and it's big enough to accommodate a half sheet pan
sitting flat on the bottom. DD's sink puts mine to shame though. She
replaced a double sink with a single one - I feel like I could go
swimming in that one!

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:24:00 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > ventilation. That's right, I'd want my galley back.
>
> It's too bad you still cook like you're in that galley, too.
>
> I have one of your steam kettles right here in my living room. Two
> layer copper with brass fittings and lid. Cast iron frame.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sqwertz...ream/lightbox/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sqwertz...ream/lightbox/
>
> -sw

Mercy! What do you do with it?
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On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 22:37:09 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 21:15:58 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > Self-cleaning would be the most important feature. Otherwise I'm fine
> >> > with what I have. I am not a material person.
> >>
> >> Oh yeah! One of my high school friends was the manager at KFC. He took
> >> us
> >> into the kitchen after hours and showed us how they cleaned. There was
> >> this
> >> hose with a special nozzle on it that reached all parts of the kitchen.
> >> It
> >> sprayed hot water. Everything got sprayed down. Floor, counters,
> >> walls...
> >>
> > Thanks, I've always wondered how they do it. Haven't seen that
> > mentioned yet on Restaurant Rescue and related shows.
>
> I'm sure at times they must do additional cleaning but that was how they
> ended the day each night.
>
They have mentioned crews that come in to do deep cleaning at night or
on the day a restaurant is closed - they also talk about kitchen
employees cleaning their work stations daily, but I didn't know the
mechanics of it before this.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" > wrote in message
...

>> >
>> >
>> Put floor drains in your dream kitchen
>>
> Good idea. Make it an industrial floor instead of wood and you can
> cover them with rugs without worrying about how wood darkens as it
> ages due to exposure to light.
>

We put ceramic tile in our last kitchen and loved it. No drain, but it was
easy to keep clean with a sponge mop. Back then it was not a problem
standing, today , with arthritis, I'd probably put a rubber mat in front of
the sink or cutting board where most of the prep work is done and most
standing.

For me, one feature of a dream kitchen -- and apparently a feature
that doesn't exist and may not be possible -- would be an exhaust
fan/hood that is sufficiently powerful but extremely quiet.

I find the noise of an exhaust fan overwhelms sounds you'd rather
be hearing (music, etc.), and even interferes with the audio
cues you need to receive from things sauteeing/frying on the stovetop.

Steve

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 09:59:00 -0600, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> Sqwertz > wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sqwertz...ream/lightbox/
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sqwertz...ream/lightbox/
>>
>> Mercy! What do you do with it?
>
> Stub my toes on the damned thing it in the middle of the night as I
> come down the stairs.

Handy, if only to let a burglar you are on your way down ;o)
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"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:24:00 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> > ventilation. That's right, I'd want my galley back.
>>
>> It's too bad you still cook like you're in that galley, too.
>>
>> I have one of your steam kettles right here in my living room. Two
>> layer copper with brass fittings and lid. Cast iron frame.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sqwertz...ream/lightbox/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sqwertz...ream/lightbox/
>>
>> -sw
>
> Mercy! What do you do with it?

You are a brave woman, Barb! I didn't dare ask
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On 1/8/2013 9:17 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 1/8/2013 12:56 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 23:12:11 -0600, "Polly Esther"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Self-cleaning would be the most important feature. Otherwise I'm fine
>>>>> with what I have. I am not a material person.
>>>>>
>>>>> -sw
>>>>
>>>> We have the dream kitchen. The couple who built this house apparently
>>>> needed
>>>> Two Kitchens and they are side by side. He hunted and fished and she
>>>> didn't
>>>> want his productions in her kitchen. It is wonderful. I can do a tight
>>>> cooking or spread twenty feet as needed. Always plenty of room to store
>>>> and
>>>> do about anything. What more I would like? Company. Kind of lonesome
>>>> here.
>>>> That's why I visit with you - as contrary as some of you wander now and
>>>> then. Polly
>>>
>>> Wow! I've always thought two kitchens would be fantastic, but I
>>> visualized them on different floors not together - your situation
>>> would really help when the kids are over and everyone is cooking.
>>>
>> My maternal grandmother had two kitchens. But, as you say sf, one was
>> upstairs and the other was in the basement. She used the basement kitchen
>> for canning and anything that might get messy (like a big pot of tomato
>> sauce). She was a neat-freak. She didn't want the upstairs kitchen,
>> which was the one people saw when they came in the side door, to be messy.
>>
>> The basement kitchen used to be the upstairs kitchen. What I mean by that
>> is at some point they remodeled. Grandpa installed all the cabinets and
>> appliances and the old fridge downstairs for her. (He was very handy!)
>> I've seen photos of it from the 1940's when it was still the only kitchen,
>> upstairs. Talk about retro, it was the real deal! The cabinets were white
>> metal with chrome handles.
>
> I had one of those all in one units at a place where I lived. Was white
> with chrome handles. Drain boards on either side of the sink, also white
> metal. There was a drawer on either side, a cabinet on either side and one
> underneath the sink. No cabinets above
(snip)

That's the difference. In this kitchen there were cabinets above and
below as well as a deep sink, counterspace and drawers. It wasn't an
"all in one" unit like you'd find in an old metal Airstream trailer or a
mobile home. My grandfather ran the pipes for the sink, installed the
cabinets, hooked up the electricty for the stove and fridge.

He also installed a second bathroom in the basement. An enclosed
downstairs toilet, sink and shower area. Grandma didn't want him
tracking things into the house until he'd had a chance to wash up after
work.

Jill

On Jan 8, 11:28*am, (Steve Pope) wrote:
> For me, one feature of a dream kitchen -- and apparently a feature
> that doesn't exist and may not be possible -- would be an exhaust
> fan/hood that is sufficiently powerful but extremely quiet.
>
> I find the noise of an exhaust fan overwhelms sounds you'd rather
> be hearing (music, etc.), and even interferes with the audio
> cues you need to receive from things sauteeing/frying on the stovetop.
>
> Steve

Of course it's a trade-off. Some of the newer ones bill themselves as
quiet and they certainly are - at the lower speed settings. At full
boogie (suck the cats off the floor mode) they're still noisy.

We just installed this one:

http://www.broan.com/products/produc...8/tab/overview

in our new kitchen and are quite happy with it so far.

--
Silvar Beitel

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 16:47:56 -0000, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> In article >,
>>> Sqwertz > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:24:00 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> > ventilation. That's right, I'd want my galley back.
>>>>
>>>> It's too bad you still cook like you're in that galley, too.
>>>>
>>>> I have one of your steam kettles right here in my living room. Two
>>>> layer copper with brass fittings and lid. Cast iron frame.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sqwertz...ream/lightbox/
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sqwertz...ream/lightbox/
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>
>>> Mercy! What do you do with it?
>>
>> You are a brave woman, Barb! I didn't dare ask
>
> I don't have a boiler to power the thing. It won't quite fit in my
> kitchen:
>
> http://www.schiercompany.com/pictures/kettle/64048.jpg

Blimey

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On Monday, January 7, 2013 5:09:22 PM UTC-8, Julie Bove wrote:
> I always thought that I wanted Corian counter tops but these days I'm not so
>
> sure about that.

I don't care what the counters are made of, what matters to me is that the kitchen be small enough. I want minimal steps between the fridge, the prep area, the stove and the sink.

....
>
> I have always wanted a nice big island, perhaps with a small sink in it.
>
> As long as it's out of the way of the 'working triangle.'
>
> And I would want enough freezer
>
> capacity so that I don't have to go out to the garage to get something.
>
Judging from posts here, most people have far more freezer than they need.

......
>
> And a pantry.

Yes, but that's no longer the kitchen, is it?
.....
>
> I would also like a hot water dispenser. Do they still make those?

An electric kettle works fine.
>
>....
>
>
> Oh and I would also like a nice area in there just for the cats.

No, they don't belong.

I have a very small kitchen. The limited work surface long ago taught me to clean up as I go. The only thing I wish I had is a bigger burner for wok cooking, but I make do with ample preheating and portion control. -aem