We have pet birds - mostly parrots - and we're getting older ourselves, so
we're really interested in a way to make unsweetened low fat Granola bars.

Has anyone done that?

I think there could be a market for it too.

Something that would be just like a granola bar but with no sugar, honey,
juice or buttery fat in it?

But how to hold it together, right?

Perhaps safflower oil? Non-hydrogenated coconut oil?
A mix of both?

Does anyone have a basic recipe that we can add grains to?

I'm thinking of starting with rolled oats, cooked wheat and rice, some almond
slices, maybe some cooked quinoa?

I'm anything but a cook. I'd love to find a good low cost cooking school in
the Denver area, because I never really learned.

Jane Galt > wrote :

> We have pet birds - mostly parrots - and we're getting older ourselves,
> so we're really interested in a way to make unsweetened low fat Granola
> bars.
>
> Has anyone done that?
>
> I think there could be a market for it too.
>
> Something that would be just like a granola bar but with no sugar,
> honey, juice or buttery fat in it?
>
> But how to hold it together, right?
>
> Perhaps safflower oil? Non-hydrogenated coconut oil?
> A mix of both?
>
> Does anyone have a basic recipe that we can add grains to?
>
> I'm thinking of starting with rolled oats, cooked wheat and rice, some
> almond slices, maybe some cooked quinoa?
>
> I'm anything but a cook. I'd love to find a good low cost cooking school
> in the Denver area, because I never really learned.
>
>

Oh, forgot to mention that one of us is allergic to molasses and maple syrup,
as well as bumpy berries.

Jane Galt wrote:
> We have pet birds - mostly parrots - and we're getting older ourselves, so
> we're really interested in a way to make unsweetened low fat Granola bars.
>
> Has anyone done that?
>
> I think there could be a market for it too.
>
> Something that would be just like a granola bar but with no sugar, honey,
> juice or buttery fat in it?
>
> But how to hold it together, right?
>
> Perhaps safflower oil? Non-hydrogenated coconut oil?
> A mix of both?
>
> Does anyone have a basic recipe that we can add grains to?
>
> I'm thinking of starting with rolled oats, cooked wheat and rice, some almond
> slices, maybe some cooked quinoa?
>
> I'm anything but a cook. I'd love to find a good low cost cooking school in
> the Denver area, because I never really learned.
>


I use a little bit of marshmallow to bind granola bars together. For
the parrots, if you don't want it sweet try using beef fat for a binder.

Bob

Jane Galt wrote:
> We have pet birds - mostly parrots - and we're getting older
> ourselves, so we're really interested in a way to make unsweetened
> low fat Granola bars.
>
> Has anyone done that?
>
> I think there could be a market for it too.
>
> Something that would be just like a granola bar but with no sugar,
> honey, juice or buttery fat in it?
>
> But how to hold it together, right?
>
> Perhaps safflower oil? Non-hydrogenated coconut oil?
> A mix of both?
>
> Does anyone have a basic recipe that we can add grains to?
>
> I'm thinking of starting with rolled oats, cooked wheat and rice,
> some almond slices, maybe some cooked quinoa?
>
> I'm anything but a cook. I'd love to find a good low cost cooking
> school in the Denver area, because I never really learned.

I am no expert on birds so I don't know what all they eat. But I have seen
fruit in some bird seed mixes. You can make a sweetner/binder out of dates
and water. Just whizz it up in your food processor. That is what raw
foodists use to hold things together. A nut butter might do too but
again... I don't want to claim to be any sort of expert on birds and what
they eat.

zxcvbob > wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> We have pet birds - mostly parrots - and we're getting older ourselves,
>> so we're really interested in a way to make unsweetened low fat Granola
>> bars.
>>
>> Has anyone done that?
>>
>> I think there could be a market for it too.
>>
>> Something that would be just like a granola bar but with no sugar,
>> honey, juice or buttery fat in it?
>>
>> But how to hold it together, right?
>>
>> Perhaps safflower oil? Non-hydrogenated coconut oil?
>> A mix of both?
>>
>> Does anyone have a basic recipe that we can add grains to?
>>
>> I'm thinking of starting with rolled oats, cooked wheat and rice, some
>> almond slices, maybe some cooked quinoa?
>>
>> I'm anything but a cook. I'd love to find a good low cost cooking
>> school in the Denver area, because I never really learned.
>>
>
>
> I use a little bit of marshmallow to bind granola bars together. For
> the parrots, if you don't want it sweet try using beef fat for a binder.
>
> Bob
>

We don't want it sweet or fatty, for us and the birds.

"Julie Bove" > wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> We have pet birds - mostly parrots - and we're getting older
>> ourselves, so we're really interested in a way to make unsweetened
>> low fat Granola bars.
>>
>> Has anyone done that?
>>
>> I think there could be a market for it too.
>>
>> Something that would be just like a granola bar but with no sugar,
>> honey, juice or buttery fat in it?
>>
>> But how to hold it together, right?
>>
>> Perhaps safflower oil? Non-hydrogenated coconut oil?
>> A mix of both?
>>
>> Does anyone have a basic recipe that we can add grains to?
>>
>> I'm thinking of starting with rolled oats, cooked wheat and rice,
>> some almond slices, maybe some cooked quinoa?
>>
>> I'm anything but a cook. I'd love to find a good low cost cooking
>> school in the Denver area, because I never really learned.
>
> I am no expert on birds so I don't know what all they eat. But I have
> seen fruit in some bird seed mixes. You can make a sweetner/binder out
> of dates and water. Just whizz it up in your food processor. That is
> what raw foodists use to hold things together. A nut butter might do
> too but again... I don't want to claim to be any sort of expert on
> birds and what they eat.
>
>
>

Well it's us and the birds, and we want to make some that's unsweetened.

Jane Galt wrote:
> We don't want it sweet or fatty, for us and the birds.


Try grinding flax seeds and mixing with a little warm water to make a
slimy paste, then mix that with the grains and stuff. (you didn't say
anything about dried fruit) When it dries it *might* bind everything
together.

Good luck, you're going to need it. I think you've set yourself up for
an impossible task. Why not just give the birds loose nuts and seeds
and whole grains? And you can eat Cheerios and Grape Nuts.

Bob

zxcvbob > wrote :

> Jane Galt wrote:
>> We don't want it sweet or fatty, for us and the birds.
>
>
> Try grinding flax seeds and mixing with a little warm water to make a
> slimy paste, then mix that with the grains and stuff. (you didn't say
> anything about dried fruit)

"We don't want it sweet"

> When it dries it *might* bind everything
> together.
>
> Good luck, you're going to need it. I think you've set yourself up for
> an impossible task. Why not just give the birds loose nuts and seeds
> and whole grains? And you can eat Cheerios and Grape Nuts.

<sigh>

On 11/21/2012 1:06 AM, Jane Galt wrote:
> zxcvbob > wrote :
>
>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>> We have pet birds - mostly parrots - and we're getting older ourselves,
>>> so we're really interested in a way to make unsweetened low fat Granola
>>> bars.
>>>
>>> Has anyone done that?
>>>
>>> I think there could be a market for it too.
>>>
>>> Something that would be just like a granola bar but with no sugar,
>>> honey, juice or buttery fat in it?
>>>
>>> But how to hold it together
>>>
>> I use a little bit of marshmallow to bind granola bars together. For
>> the parrots, if you don't want it sweet try using beef fat for a binder.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>
> We don't want it sweet or fatty, for us and the birds.
>
*If* the (troll) OP actually has parrots, she should know birds can't
exist on a no-fat diet. WTH does she think bird suet and bird cakes are
made from? Seeds and fat. Suet, in particular. You don't have to add
sweetener. But trust me, the birds won't live long without some sort of
fat because they burn it off faster than they can eat. That's why the
phrase "eats like a bird" is a misnomer. Oh, and birds don't eat
granola bars.

Jill

jmcquown > wrote :

> On 11/21/2012 1:06 AM, Jane Galt wrote:
>> zxcvbob > wrote :
>>
>>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>>> We have pet birds - mostly parrots - and we're getting older
ourselves,
>>>> so we're really interested in a way to make unsweetened low fat
Granola
>>>> bars.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone done that?
>>>>
>>>> I think there could be a market for it too.
>>>>
>>>> Something that would be just like a granola bar but with no sugar,
>>>> honey, juice or buttery fat in it?
>>>>
>>>> But how to hold it together
>>>>
>>> I use a little bit of marshmallow to bind granola bars together. For
>>> the parrots, if you don't want it sweet try using beef fat for a
binder.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>
>> We don't want it sweet or fatty, for us and the birds.
>>
> *If* the (troll) OP actually has parrots, she should know birds can't
> exist on a no-fat diet. WTH does she think bird suet and bird cakes are
> made from? Seeds and fat. Suet, in particular. You don't have to add
> sweetener. But trust me, the birds won't live long without some sort of
> fat because they burn it off faster than they can eat. That's why the
> phrase "eats like a bird" is a misnomer. Oh, and birds don't eat
> granola bars.
>
> Jill
>

They get plenty of fat other ways, idiot!

This is just granola, not the entire diet we feed them.

Who's the real troll?

On 11/22/2012 7:09 PM, Jane Galt wrote:
> jmcquown > wrote :
>
>> On 11/21/2012 1:06 AM, Jane Galt wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jane Galt wrote:
>>>>> We have pet birds - mostly parrots - and we're getting older
> ourselves,
>>>>> so we're really interested in a way to make unsweetened low fat
> Granola
>>>>> bars.
>>>
>>> We don't want it sweet or fatty, for us and the birds.
>>>
>> *If* the (troll) OP actually has parrots, she should know birds can't
>> exist on a no-fat diet. WTH does she think bird suet and bird cakes are
>> made from? Seeds and fat. Suet, in particular. You don't have to add
>> sweetener. But trust me, the birds won't live long without some sort of
>> fat because they burn it off faster than they can eat. That's why the
>> phrase "eats like a bird" is a misnomer. Oh, and birds don't eat
>> granola bars.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>
> They get plenty of fat other ways, idiot!
>
> This is just granola, not the entire diet we feed them.
>
> Who's the real troll?
>
Uh, that would be you. I've been posting around here since the
1990's... you? Just show up and claim you don't want to feed fat to
your parrots. It's fine to put yourself on a diet, FIDIOT, but don't do
that to your parrots.

I've had pet birds most of my life, since 1966. I'm well aware the
seeds they eat contain most necessary fats and oil. But that's not what
you put in granola bars.

My birds loved the honey cake treats. You say you don't want sweet or
fat. Well good luck with that.

Jill