Who was it that made the claim that they sell enhanced meat? I thought it
was sf but apparently not. I have never seen such meat there although
granted I didn't look at all of it. But I did look online and can't see
any. Could you please tell me what it is specifically that you saw there
that is enhanced? Thanks!

On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 07:54:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> Who was it that made the claim that they sell enhanced meat? I thought it
> was sf but apparently not.

It was me. The Target meat I looked at was enhanced.

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 07:54:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Who was it that made the claim that they sell enhanced meat? I thought
>> it
>> was sf but apparently not.
>
> It was me. The Target meat I looked at was enhanced.

Agree, almost all of Target's fresh meat is "injected with xx%
of something to enhance/preserve/whatever." Look on the
labels, it will be there somewhere, even on the Angus beef.
Just like Walmart.

pavane

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 07:54:20 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Who was it that made the claim that they sell enhanced meat? I
>> thought it was sf but apparently not. I have never seen such meat
>> there although granted I didn't look at all of it. But I did look
>> online and can't see any. Could you please tell me what it is
>> specifically that you saw there that is enhanced? Thanks!
>
> I didn't make the claim, but I will now. Everything except the
> brisket is enhanced. And costs an average of 35% more than what I pay
> at HEB for non injected meat excluding the rare liquidation sale.

That's simply not true. Hang on and I will put up links.

http://www.target.com/p/just-bare-ha...6&term=chicken

http://www.target.com/p/laura-s-lean..._2&term=ground
beef

Sorry. You'll have to cut and paste the second one. Organic meat. Nothing
added.
>
> What an obnoxiously annoying site - requires third party tracking
> cookies to be enabled. But since when do they sell raw beef online?
> They DO sell "The Ribeye Brothers Bar Ballads" CD (gotta get that!),
> but no raw meat that I can see.

The meat is not sold online. Says prices vary by store but... You can put
in the zip code of the store you want to shop at and it will tell you if
they have it in stock or not.

sf wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 07:54:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Who was it that made the claim that they sell enhanced meat? I
>> thought it was sf but apparently not.
>
> It was me. The Target meat I looked at was enhanced.

But you said before that it *wasn't* you! Please tell me what it was then!
Because I haven't seen it there and I want to know.

"pavane" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 07:54:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Who was it that made the claim that they sell enhanced meat? I thought
>>> it
>>> was sf but apparently not.
>>
>> It was me. The Target meat I looked at was enhanced.
>
> Agree, almost all of Target's fresh meat is "injected with xx%
> of something to enhance/preserve/whatever." Look on the
> labels, it will be there somewhere, even on the Angus beef.
> Just like Walmart.
>
> pavane

I did look on the labels and it didn't say that. They do sell organic meat
and that it is what I buy. It's not enhanced with anything.

On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:30:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "pavane" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >
> > "sf" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 07:54:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Who was it that made the claim that they sell enhanced meat? I thought
> >>> it
> >>> was sf but apparently not.
> >>
> >> It was me. The Target meat I looked at was enhanced.
> >
> > Agree, almost all of Target's fresh meat is "injected with xx%
> > of something to enhance/preserve/whatever." Look on the
> > labels, it will be there somewhere, even on the Angus beef.
> > Just like Walmart.
> >
> > pavane
>
> I did look on the labels and it didn't say that. They do sell organic meat
> and that it is what I buy. It's not enhanced with anything.
>
In that case, it's limited to your store not ours.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:19:43 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 07:54:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Who was it that made the claim that they sell enhanced meat? I
> >> thought it was sf but apparently not.
> >
> > It was me. The Target meat I looked at was enhanced.
>
> But you said before that it *wasn't* you! Please tell me what it was then!
> Because I haven't seen it there and I want to know.
>
I said it wasn't me? When?

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:19:43 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>> > On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 07:54:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Who was it that made the claim that they sell enhanced meat? I
>> >> thought it was sf but apparently not.
>> >
>> > It was me. The Target meat I looked at was enhanced.
>>
>> But you said before that it *wasn't* you! Please tell me what it was
>> then!
>> Because I haven't seen it there and I want to know.
>>
> I said it wasn't me? When?

When I posted the "Ping sf" thread where I left the "i" out. Now could you
please answer the question? What kind of meat did you see? Pork? Chicken?
Beef? Something else?

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:30:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "pavane" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> >
>> > "sf" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 07:54:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Who was it that made the claim that they sell enhanced meat? I
>> >>> thought
>> >>> it
>> >>> was sf but apparently not.
>> >>
>> >> It was me. The Target meat I looked at was enhanced.
>> >
>> > Agree, almost all of Target's fresh meat is "injected with xx%
>> > of something to enhance/preserve/whatever." Look on the
>> > labels, it will be there somewhere, even on the Angus beef.
>> > Just like Walmart.
>> >
>> > pavane
>>
>> I did look on the labels and it didn't say that. They do sell organic
>> meat
>> and that it is what I buy. It's not enhanced with anything.
>>
> In that case, it's limited to your store not ours.

I highly doubt that. I have been to two Targets. One is larger and sells
more variety. The organic meat was at the smaller store.

If you want a can of soup, a package of pasta, a box of crackers, a bag of
chips, a package of cheese (yes even fancy and imported cheese), soda pop,
coffee, etc., they sell the same items that the grocery stores in this area
sell. They also have their own brand of stuff. I have had no problems with
their stuff except for a pasta sauce that we bought a long time ago that
didn't taste right to me. And that oregano. But it may well be that both
were the same brand and both were that same kind of oregano.

Yes there are some things we can not get there. Like full sized whole wheat
bagels. They do have the mini. They also do not have as much selection of
bread as a regular grocery store sells. Or as many varieties of dried
beans. But again... If I need to make a meal, they do sell enough that I
can do that and it doesn't have to involve processed foods. It's all fresh
and it's all fine, IMO.

On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:09:48 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:30:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "pavane" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "sf" > wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> >> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 07:54:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Who was it that made the claim that they sell enhanced meat? I
> >> >>> thought
> >> >>> it
> >> >>> was sf but apparently not.
> >> >>
> >> >> It was me. The Target meat I looked at was enhanced.
> >> >
> >> > Agree, almost all of Target's fresh meat is "injected with xx%
> >> > of something to enhance/preserve/whatever." Look on the
> >> > labels, it will be there somewhere, even on the Angus beef.
> >> > Just like Walmart.
> >> >
> >> > pavane
> >>
> >> I did look on the labels and it didn't say that. They do sell organic
> >> meat
> >> and that it is what I buy. It's not enhanced with anything.
> >>
> > In that case, it's limited to your store not ours.
>
> I highly doubt that. I have been to two Targets. One is larger and sells
> more variety. The organic meat was at the smaller store.

Now you've shifted to whether or not they carry organic meat?

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:05:24 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:19:43 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> sf wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 07:54:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Who was it that made the claim that they sell enhanced meat? I
> >> >> thought it was sf but apparently not.
> >> >
> >> > It was me. The Target meat I looked at was enhanced.
> >>
> >> But you said before that it *wasn't* you! Please tell me what it was
> >> then!
> >> Because I haven't seen it there and I want to know.
> >>
> > I said it wasn't me? When?
>
> When I posted the "Ping sf" thread where I left the "i" out.

I looked at both of my replies and neither said anything of the sort.

> Now could you
> please answer the question? What kind of meat did you see? Pork? Chicken?
> Beef? Something else?
>
Sorry, I didn't make notes but I'm pretty sure I looked at all of the
above. Didn't realize you'd want details years afterward.

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:05:24 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:19:43 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> sf wrote:
>> >> > On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 07:54:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Who was it that made the claim that they sell enhanced meat? I
>> >> >> thought it was sf but apparently not.
>> >> >
>> >> > It was me. The Target meat I looked at was enhanced.
>> >>
>> >> But you said before that it *wasn't* you! Please tell me what it was
>> >> then!
>> >> Because I haven't seen it there and I want to know.
>> >>
>> > I said it wasn't me? When?
>>
>> When I posted the "Ping sf" thread where I left the "i" out.
>
> I looked at both of my replies and neither said anything of the sort.
>
>> Now could you
>> please answer the question? What kind of meat did you see? Pork?
>> Chicken?
>> Beef? Something else?
>>
> Sorry, I didn't make notes but I'm pretty sure I looked at all of the
> above. Didn't realize you'd want details years afterward.

Years afterwards? AFAIK the fresh food dept. is a new thing. We didn't get
it till August. You just posted that they now sell. As though it were a
new thing. I will look when I go in there. I just don't believe this.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:09:48 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:30:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "pavane" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "sf" > wrote in message
>> >> > ...
>> >> >> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 07:54:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Who was it that made the claim that they sell enhanced meat? I
>> >> >>> thought
>> >> >>> it
>> >> >>> was sf but apparently not.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It was me. The Target meat I looked at was enhanced.
>> >> >
>> >> > Agree, almost all of Target's fresh meat is "injected with xx%
>> >> > of something to enhance/preserve/whatever." Look on the
>> >> > labels, it will be there somewhere, even on the Angus beef.
>> >> > Just like Walmart.
>> >> >
>> >> > pavane
>> >>
>> >> I did look on the labels and it didn't say that. They do sell organic
>> >> meat
>> >> and that it is what I buy. It's not enhanced with anything.
>> >>
>> > In that case, it's limited to your store not ours.
>>
>> I highly doubt that. I have been to two Targets. One is larger and
>> sells
>> more variety. The organic meat was at the smaller store.
>
> Now you've shifted to whether or not they carry organic meat?

I didn't shift anything! The Targets here *do* sell organic meat. It's not
all organic but they do sell it. Contains no additives at all. sw claimed
that it all constrained enhancers except for the brisket. I don't even know
they sell brisket. But I will look for that too.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:09:48 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:30:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I did look on the labels and it didn't say that. They do sell organic
>>>> meat
>>>> and that it is what I buy. It's not enhanced with anything.
>>>>
>>> In that case, it's limited to your store not ours.
>>
>> I highly doubt that. I have been to two Targets. One is larger and
>> sells
>> more variety. The organic meat was at the smaller store.
>
> You need to look harder. Not pick and choose the branded, high-priced
> organic stuff.
>
> If you continue to insist that your Target doesn't carry injected
> meat, especially whole muscle pork and beef, then you are clearly
> lying.

I never said that they did not. I just asked for proof that they do. What
they sell *is* listed online. I looked and didn't see any. Nor did I see
any evidence of it when I did a search on the subject. So far nobody has
been able to offer up proof.

I don't buy a lot of meat. When I do buy it, I tend to buy organic.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:18:54 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 07:54:20 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> Who was it that made the claim that they sell enhanced meat? I
>>>> thought it was sf but apparently not. I have never seen such meat
>>>> there although granted I didn't look at all of it. But I did look
>>>> online and can't see any. Could you please tell me what it is
>>>> specifically that you saw there that is enhanced? Thanks!
>>>
>>> I didn't make the claim, but I will now. Everything except the
>>> brisket is enhanced. And costs an average of 35% more than what I pay
>>> at HEB for non injected meat excluding the rare liquidation sale.
>>
>> That's simply not true. Hang on and I will put up links.
>
> I'm hanging.
>
>> http://www.target.com/p/just-bare-ha...6&term=chicken
>
> The name is "Just Bare". Duh. This is to advertise the fact this is
> one kind of chicken that *doesn't* have injection. The irony here is
> that it's implying that everything else IS injected.
>
>> http://www.target.com/p/laura-s-lean..._2&term=ground
>> beef
>
> Ground beef is always an exception. No store injects their ground
> beef, nor makes beef from injected meat. I guess that wasn't obvious
> to you, but it's a well know fact of life that you can't have water
> added to ground beef or it would turn to grey sludge.
>
> Fact is that the vast majority of their stuff IS enhanced. We're not
> lying, Julie. Of course if you actually do go to Target and look at
> the packages like normal people, somehow I have a feel that your
> target won't have ANY injected meat. Because YOUR experience has to
> be different than everybody else's.

Well now I *will* specifically go and look for it. Why did I not look for
it before? Because as I said, I pretty much *only* buy organic meats. But
*you* are the one who said that all of their meats were enhanced except for
the brisket. And that's just wrong!

On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 20:10:46 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:09:48 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:30:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> "pavane" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "sf" > wrote in message
> >> >> > ...
> >> >> >> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 07:54:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> Who was it that made the claim that they sell enhanced meat? I
> >> >> >>> thought
> >> >> >>> it
> >> >> >>> was sf but apparently not.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It was me. The Target meat I looked at was enhanced.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Agree, almost all of Target's fresh meat is "injected with xx%
> >> >> > of something to enhance/preserve/whatever." Look on the
> >> >> > labels, it will be there somewhere, even on the Angus beef.
> >> >> > Just like Walmart.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > pavane
> >> >>
> >> >> I did look on the labels and it didn't say that. They do sell organic
> >> >> meat
> >> >> and that it is what I buy. It's not enhanced with anything.
> >> >>
> >> > In that case, it's limited to your store not ours.
> >>
> >> I highly doubt that. I have been to two Targets. One is larger and
> >> sells
> >> more variety. The organic meat was at the smaller store.
> >
> > Now you've shifted to whether or not they carry organic meat?
>
> I didn't shift anything! The Targets here *do* sell organic meat. It's not
> all organic but they do sell it. Contains no additives at all. sw claimed
> that it all constrained enhancers except for the brisket. I don't even know
> they sell brisket. But I will look for that too.
>
Organic wasn't part of what I replied to and I'm not the person to
look at for answers about it. I can only tell you that I read labels
and I wasn't impressed.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 20:09:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> Years afterwards? AFAIK the fresh food dept. is a new thing. We didn't get
> it till August. You just posted that they now sell. As though it were a
> new thing. I will look when I go in there. I just don't believe this.
>

Then you're hopelessly out of date. My local Targets went "super" a
few years ago and they were way behind the 8-ball in the whole scheme
of Target conversions.

--
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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 20:19:27 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Fact is that the vast majority of their stuff IS enhanced. We're not
>>> lying, Julie. Of course if you actually do go to Target and look at
>>> the packages like normal people, somehow I have a feel that your
>>> target won't have ANY injected meat. Because YOUR experience has to
>>> be different than everybody else's.
>>
>> Well now I *will* specifically go and look for it. Why did I not look
>> for
>> it before? Because as I said, I pretty much *only* buy organic meats.
>> But
>> *you* are the one who said that all of their meats were enhanced except
>> for
>> the brisket. And that's just wrong!
>
> Yeah, there will be an exception or two on the "high-end" labelled
> items. When we say teh meat is enhanced, we're talking the
> run-of-the-mill stuff. Either a store sells enhanced market cut meat,
> or they don't. The name branded stuff will vary.
>
> So go **** yourself if you want to start petty fight over some
> designer chicken you found online. And I didn't say anything about
> Target until you started arguing with somebody else about it first.
> Ironically, you can't even remember who you were arguing with - you're
> on this mad witch hunt to remember who you were arguing with.
>
> Is it really that slow of a week for you, that you have to start more
> shit just to satisfy your lust for pointless confrontations?

I didn't find the chicken online. Well I did but... I bought some there.
Just like I bought the Laura's ground beef.

I am currently arguing both with you and sf. Neither of you can back up
what you said.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 20:12:11 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:09:48 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:30:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did look on the labels and it didn't say that. They do sell
>>>>>> organic
>>>>>> meat
>>>>>> and that it is what I buy. It's not enhanced with anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>> In that case, it's limited to your store not ours.
>>>>
>>>> I highly doubt that. I have been to two Targets. One is larger and
>>>> sells
>>>> more variety. The organic meat was at the smaller store.
>>>
>>> You need to look harder. Not pick and choose the branded, high-priced
>>> organic stuff.
>>>
>>> If you continue to insist that your Target doesn't carry injected
>>> meat, especially whole muscle pork and beef, then you are clearly
>>> lying.
>>
>> I never said that they did not.
>
> Yes, you did. You said you have never seen it.
>
>> I just asked for proof that they do.
>
> And a bunch of us have told you, but you still keep babbling.
>
>> they sell *is* listed online.
>
> He
>
> <http://www.target.com/p/hormel-always-tender-boneless-center-pork-chops/-/A-13387324#prodSlot=medium_1_13&term=pork>
>
> There's the first pork product I saw. Read the fine print on the
> label underneath PORK: "Tenderness and juiciness enhanced by up to
> twelve percent brine solution". And you'll find that on every cut of
> mainstream pork there. I don't care if you can't read it, but that's
> what it says.
>
> They don't have normal steaks and roasts online - whcih is what I
> searched for before. But you'll find the same fine print on the
> mainline beef steaks and roasts as well (you won't find them on beef
> back ribs nor briskets).
>
>> So far nobody has been able to offer up proof.
>
> You're calling us all liars. Our word and personal experience of
> actually LOOKING at the labels is not good enough for you? We're all
> full of shit until we PROVE it to your petty little ass? This is
> exactly why most everybody here hates you - because you suck.
>
> I just gave you proof above. Now **** off.
>
> ObPolitics: Yeah! (that's my political post of the year)

Well I don't know about where you live but pretty much ALL of the grocery
stores here sell Hormel pork products. Perhaps Central Market doesn't. I
don't know. That's one item. One that I say doesn't amount to much. You
rather implied that the chicken and beef were also enhanced.

So are you now saying that you won't shop in a store that sells Hormel pork?

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 20:10:46 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> sw claimed
>> that it all constrained enhancers except for the brisket. I don't even
>> know
>> they sell brisket. But I will look for that too.
>
> I was referring ot the mainline meat. We all were. YOU shifted it to
> the high priced organic meat, which of course will not be enhanced.
> And then you mentioned the ground beef, which we ALL know is never
> enhanced since that's illegal.

Ground beef is the main item of meat that I buy. Occasionally chicken,
turkey, bacon or other beef items. I don't really know what is or is not
enhanced and AFAIK I have never bought any enhanced meats.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 20:09:17 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Years afterwards? AFAIK the fresh food dept. is a new thing. We didn't
>> get
>> it till August. You just posted that they now sell. As though it were a
>> new thing. I will look when I go in there. I just don't believe this.
>
> Gawd, you are so lame. And petty. And there you go calling us all
> liars again.
>
> This is why you have no friends here.

Well... From what I have seen... You have no friends either. Also from
what I have seen, there are few people here I would want to be friends with.
So...

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 20:10:46 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:09:48 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "sf" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:30:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "pavane" > wrote in message
>> >> >> ...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "sf" > wrote in message
>> >> >> > ...
>> >> >> >> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 07:54:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> Who was it that made the claim that they sell enhanced meat? I
>> >> >> >>> thought
>> >> >> >>> it
>> >> >> >>> was sf but apparently not.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> It was me. The Target meat I looked at was enhanced.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Agree, almost all of Target's fresh meat is "injected with xx%
>> >> >> > of something to enhance/preserve/whatever." Look on the
>> >> >> > labels, it will be there somewhere, even on the Angus beef.
>> >> >> > Just like Walmart.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > pavane
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I did look on the labels and it didn't say that. They do sell
>> >> >> organic
>> >> >> meat
>> >> >> and that it is what I buy. It's not enhanced with anything.
>> >> >>
>> >> > In that case, it's limited to your store not ours.
>> >>
>> >> I highly doubt that. I have been to two Targets. One is larger and
>> >> sells
>> >> more variety. The organic meat was at the smaller store.
>> >
>> > Now you've shifted to whether or not they carry organic meat?
>>
>> I didn't shift anything! The Targets here *do* sell organic meat. It's
>> not
>> all organic but they do sell it. Contains no additives at all. sw
>> claimed
>> that it all constrained enhancers except for the brisket. I don't even
>> know
>> they sell brisket. But I will look for that too.
>>
> Organic wasn't part of what I replied to and I'm not the person to
> look at for answers about it. I can only tell you that I read labels
> and I wasn't impressed.

But why did you even read the labels if you say that you don't buy packaged
meats?

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 20:09:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Years afterwards? AFAIK the fresh food dept. is a new thing. We didn't
>> get
>> it till August. You just posted that they now sell. As though it were a
>> new thing. I will look when I go in there. I just don't believe this.
>>
>
> Then you're hopelessly out of date. My local Targets went "super" a
> few years ago and they were way behind the 8-ball in the whole scheme
> of Target conversions.

We do not have Super Targets here AFAIK. We do have some with fresh foods.
And it is a very new thing here. I would assume that "Super" means a full
grocery department and that is not what we have. They probably added maybe
8 aisles of shelf stable stuff. There is more ice cream and dairy. There
is probably a 6-8 foot section of fresh meat. More bread and bakery
products. Fresh produce. More frozen items than they had before. And some
prepared foods that they didn't have before.

On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 22:26:05 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> But why did you even read the labels if you say that you don't buy packaged
> meats?
>

1. I was curious, so I looked.
2. You don't know the difference between a "name brand" that's
pre-packaged elsewhere (like your "Laura" brand) and what's packaged
in the store? Not trying to say Target packages any meat in the
store.



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On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 20:09:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> Years afterwards? AFAIK the fresh food dept. is a new thing. We didn't get
> it till August. You just posted that they now sell. As though it were a
> new thing. I will look when I go in there. I just don't believe this.
>
Do what you need to do, Julie. Super Target is new here AFAIC and I
thought we were at the end of the store conversion curve because I'd
heard about it for years before ours converted.. but apparently it
that isn't the case as evidenced by the one you shop at that just
converted in August.

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On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 22:34:01 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> I would assume that "Super" means a full
> grocery department and that is not what we have.

No idea what Target's version of "super" is, nor do I care what you
consider "super". Some people call Trader Joe's a grocery store. I
don't. There you go.

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On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 22:22:34 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> So are you now saying that you won't shop in a store that sells Hormel pork?
>

Define your terms for Hormel products.

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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 22:22:34 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 20:12:11 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:09:48 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:30:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did look on the labels and it didn't say that. They do sell
>>>>>>>> organic
>>>>>>>> meat
>>>>>>>> and that it is what I buy. It's not enhanced with anything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In that case, it's limited to your store not ours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I highly doubt that. I have been to two Targets. One is larger and
>>>>>> sells
>>>>>> more variety. The organic meat was at the smaller store.
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to look harder. Not pick and choose the branded, high-priced
>>>>> organic stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you continue to insist that your Target doesn't carry injected
>>>>> meat, especially whole muscle pork and beef, then you are clearly
>>>>> lying.
>>>>
>>>> I never said that they did not.
>>>
>>> Yes, you did. You said you have never seen it.
>>>
>>>> I just asked for proof that they do.
>>>
>>> And a bunch of us have told you, but you still keep babbling.
>>>
>>>> they sell *is* listed online.
>>>
>>> He
>>>
>>> <http://www.target.com/p/hormel-always-tender-boneless-center-pork-chops/-/A-13387324#prodSlot=medium_1_13&term=pork>
>>>
>>> There's the first pork product I saw. Read the fine print on the
>>> label underneath PORK: "Tenderness and juiciness enhanced by up to
>>> twelve percent brine solution". And you'll find that on every cut of
>>> mainstream pork there. I don't care if you can't read it, but that's
>>> what it says.
>>>
>>> They don't have normal steaks and roasts online - whcih is what I
>>> searched for before. But you'll find the same fine print on the
>>> mainline beef steaks and roasts as well (you won't find them on beef
>>> back ribs nor briskets).
>>>
>>>> So far nobody has been able to offer up proof.
>>>
>>> You're calling us all liars. Our word and personal experience of
>>> actually LOOKING at the labels is not good enough for you? We're all
>>> full of shit until we PROVE it to your petty little ass? This is
>>> exactly why most everybody here hates you - because you suck.
>>>
>>> I just gave you proof above. Now **** off.
>>>
>>> ObPolitics: Yeah! (that's my political post of the year)
>>
>> Well I don't know about where you live but pretty much ALL of the grocery
>> stores here sell Hormel pork products. Perhaps Central Market doesn't.
>> I
>> don't know. That's one item. One that I say doesn't amount to much.
>> You
>> rather implied that the chicken and beef were also enhanced.
>>
>> So are you now saying that you won't shop in a store that sells Hormel
>> pork?
>
> I proved you were wrong, now stop trying to change the subject by
> blubbering.
>
> You're welcome, BTW. I gave you your proof. You ungrateful brat.

No. You didn't. You said that all of the meat was enhanced except for the
brisket.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 22:22:34 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> So are you now saying that you won't shop in a store that sells Hormel
>> pork?
>>
>
> Define your terms for Hormel products.

Anything with the name "Hormel" on it! I would assume that there are many
deli type meats that are enhanced. I don't really know this because we
don't buy that stuff but it would seem like there would be and your typical
grocery store would sell those things too. But that's not what I'm talking
about here. You said the meat was injected with stuff like Walmart meat.
And I don't think that's the case at all.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 22:26:05 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> But why did you even read the labels if you say that you don't buy
>> packaged
>> meats?
>>
>
> 1. I was curious, so I looked.
> 2. You don't know the difference between a "name brand" that's
> pre-packaged elsewhere (like your "Laura" brand) and what's packaged
> in the store? Not trying to say Target packages any meat in the
> store.

Of course I know the difference. I also know what is organic. Just what is
wrong with name brand organic meat?

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 22:34:01 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 20:09:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Years afterwards? AFAIK the fresh food dept. is a new thing. We
>>>> didn't
>>>> get
>>>> it till August. You just posted that they now sell. As though it were
>>>> a
>>>> new thing. I will look when I go in there. I just don't believe this.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Then you're hopelessly out of date. My local Targets went "super" a
>>> few years ago and they were way behind the 8-ball in the whole scheme
>>> of Target conversions.
>>
>> We do not have Super Targets here AFAIK.
>
> You're not even referring to a Super Target!?!?! Just some expanded
> Target with limited selection?
>
> <thwap> Get out of here.

Um... Yeah! That is what I said from the git go. And sf didn't specify a
Super Target in her post. She just said Target. AFAIK all of the Targets
here now how the fresh food section.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 22:34:01 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> I would assume that "Super" means a full
>> grocery department and that is not what we have.
>
> No idea what Target's version of "super" is, nor do I care what you
> consider "super". Some people call Trader Joe's a grocery store. I
> don't. There you go.

OMFG!

http://www.ehow.com/info_8577230_dif...nd-target.html

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 20:09:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Years afterwards? AFAIK the fresh food dept. is a new thing. We didn't
>> get
>> it till August. You just posted that they now sell. As though it were a
>> new thing. I will look when I go in there. I just don't believe this.
>>
> Do what you need to do, Julie. Super Target is new here AFAIC and I
> thought we were at the end of the store conversion curve because I'd
> heard about it for years before ours converted.. but apparently it
> that isn't the case as evidenced by the one you shop at that just
> converted in August.

Here's the link again:

http://www.ehow.com/info_8577230_dif...nd-target.html

Not all stores are Super Targets.

I would find it *very* hard to believe that the Super Targets do not also
carry organic meats.

If a store sells only enhanced meats, then I won't buy my meat there. But
as long as I *can* get what I prefer to buy then I really don't care what
all other meats they sell. Having worked in retail all of my life I do know
that it is in the best interest of a store such as Target to appeal to a
wide variety of people.

Some stores want to appeal to the low end customers. Not saying that only
the low end customers will shop there but that is who they are attracting.
Such stores IMO would be Walmart and Aldi. I'm sure there are others.

On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 22:12:43 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> I am currently arguing both with you and sf. Neither of you can back up
> what you said.

We don't have to. We went, we saw, we reported... and pavane backs
it up. You looked online at a list that doesn't represent what's sold
in the stores where we shop.

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 22:12:43 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> I am currently arguing both with you and sf. Neither of you can back up
>> what you said.
>
> We don't have to. We went, we saw, we reported... and pavane backs
> it up. You looked online at a list that doesn't represent what's sold
> in the stores where we shop.

Well, I have not seen enhanced meat in *my* Target store. There may well be
pork products. We do not buy pork products except for some bacon at Costco
and once in a great while some ham if I see it for really cheap and I am low
on funds.

The way it sounded was that all of the meat that they sell is enhanced
because they were compared to Walmart. I seriously beg to differ.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 23:36:39 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> I proved you were wrong, now stop trying to change the subject by
>>> blubbering.
>>>
>>> You're welcome, BTW. I gave you your proof. You ungrateful brat.
>>
>> No. You didn't. You said that all of the meat was enhanced except for
>> the
>> brisket.
>
> Congratulations. You proved me so wrong by showing me some obscure
> brand of chicken listed on their website that probably isn't even
> carried at your store. Or mine.

Well if you want to know if your store carries it, just put in your zip
code!
>
> It doesn't change the fact that you called us all liars, multiple
> times, and insisted that they don't carry enhanced meat. And then you
> were proven wrong using your own source of information (not that we
> had any doubt you were wrong in the first place). And you still keep
> trying to weasel out of this.

No. I did not say that they did not carry enhanced meat. You implied that
*most* of the meat was enhanced and *she* implied that it all is. I know
that I have bought meat there and I know that I do not buy that kind. I
asked you to prove that their meat was enhanced and you put up a link to a
Hormel pork chop that is likely sold in most all groceries stores. In fact
in doing my search, I now know that Butterball turkey is in fact enhanced.
That turkey is sold really everywhere around here except perhaps for the
health food stores, Central Market, Whole Foods and Trader Joes which sf
does not consider to be a grocery store.
>
> This makes you the royal bitch. And anybody who wants to poo-poo me
> for calling you the **** that you are, well - to hell with them too.
> Because after this bullshit you just pulled they can't have any reason
> not to think you don't deserve the treatment you receive here.

I think your panties are in a bunch again.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 23:39:04 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Anything with the name "Hormel" on it! I would assume that there are
>> many
>> deli type meats that are enhanced. I don't really know this because we
>> don't buy that stuff but it would seem like there would be and your
>> typical
>> grocery store would sell those things too. But that's not what I'm
>> talking
>> about here. You said the meat was injected with stuff like Walmart meat.
>> And I don't think that's the case at all.
>
> Yet I just showed you the links that prove what we've all been trying
> to tell you and you pretend to be oblivious to them.
>
> And why did you change the subject to us shopping at stores that carry
> Hormel products? They have enhanced and unenhanced product lines for
> various national chains. Stop trying to change the subject with these
> tangents.
>
Oh really? Now you are saying that Hormel has enhanced and unenhanced
products? Gawd forbid I should ask you to prove this! Oh and I do know how
to get to the Hormel website. I have been there many times.

> Oh, I'm done. I've proven my point (and sf's) and shown you to be out
> of your mind. So my work here is done on this issue. Enjoy
> walllowing in your own shit.

Nope. I know for a fact that I bought Laura's organic ground beef there
last week and I am pretty darned sure that I have also bought chicken and
steak there that were not enhanced.

On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 11:42:33 -0600 in rec.food.cooking, Sqwertz
> wrote,
>I didn't make the claim, but I will now. Everything except the
>brisket is enhanced. And costs an average of 35% more than what I pay
>at HEB for non injected meat excluding the rare liquidation sale.

Injected liquidation is no enhancement; rather the opposite.

On 11/7/2012 7:27 AM, David Harmon wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 11:42:33 -0600 in rec.food.cooking, Sqwertz
> > wrote,
>> I didn't make the claim, but I will now. Everything except the
>> brisket is enhanced. And costs an average of 35% more than what I pay
>> at HEB for non injected meat excluding the rare liquidation sale.
>
> Injected liquidation is no enhancement; rather the opposite.
>

Of course, but all degradation of quality, increase in cost etc needs to
be addressed with appropriate spin claiming it is actually a benefit.