On 9/9/2012 2:06 PM, Steve Pope wrote:
> gloria p > wrote:
>
>> You're entitled to your opinion. I was in two different TJs last week
>> in CA and can testify that many people disagree with you. I stand among
>> them and will be happy when the Denver area stores open.
>
> Are they planning more than one now? I thought they were limited
> to one per county, or something like that. The first one is going
> in in Boulder.
>
> Steve
>

Self-limited? There are three in Carlsbad/Encinitas CA.

The only CO limit is one alcohol license per store chain and I don't
think grocery stores can sell anything but beer, altho they have tried
to get legislation permitting wine and hard stuff. The liquor store
owners have a strong lobby. They fought against Sunday opening hard but
eventually lost that battle.

TJs likes to have multiple stores in a region to use the economies of
central warehousing. They are building the one in Boulder from the
ground up where they knocked down an existing store. I heard recently
they are planning one in Denver/Cherry Creek near the former CU Medical
Center area, in an existing storefront near Colorado Blvd and 8th Ave.
I have also heard there is one planned for the southwest suburbs,
Littleton or SW Jeffco.

Denver area now has Penzey's, IKEA, Sprouts and TJ is coming. Nice!

gloria p

gloria p > wrote:

>On 9/9/2012 2:06 PM, Steve Pope wrote:

>> Are they planning more than one now? I thought they were limited
>> to one per county, or something like that. The first one is going
>> in in Boulder.

>Self-limited? There are three in Carlsbad/Encinitas CA.

Well, yes, but that's not in Colorado.

>The only CO limit is one alcohol license per store chain and I don't
>think grocery stores can sell anything but beer, altho they have tried
>to get legislation permitting wine and hard stuff. The liquor store
>owners have a strong lobby. They fought against Sunday opening hard but
>eventually lost that battle.

>TJs likes to have multiple stores in a region to use the economies of
>central warehousing.

They are also set on having a liquor license at each store.

>Denver area now has Penzey's, IKEA, Sprouts and TJ is coming. Nice!

I do not know whether TJ's has managed to get a change in regulation,
or they have given in and are opening liquor-less stores.

Steve

On 9/9/2012 4:30 PM, Steve Pope wrote:

>
> I do not know whether TJ's has managed to get a change in regulation,
> or they have given in and are opening liquor-less stores.
>
> Steve
>


They have liquor in only one store in Massachusetts and, I think,
Maryland. I don't know where else that law exists, but they cope.

gloria p

On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 18:52:47 -0600, gloria p >
wrote:

>On 9/9/2012 4:30 PM, Steve Pope wrote:
>
>>
>> I do not know whether TJ's has managed to get a change in regulation,
>> or they have given in and are opening liquor-less stores.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>
>
>They have liquor in only one store in Massachusetts and, I think,
>Maryland. I don't know where else that law exists, but they cope.
>
>gloria p

NJ has similar laws. It affects places such as Costco, too, here in
NJ.

Boron

Boron Elgar wrote:
>
> On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 18:52:47 -0600, gloria p >
> wrote:
>
> >They have liquor in only one store in Massachusetts and, I think,
> >Maryland. I don't know where else that law exists, but they cope.
>
> NJ has similar laws. It affects places such as Costco, too, here in
> NJ.

I just found out it's illegal to pump your own gas
in NJ. I think it's evidence your population has
rather low IQ when you have to pass laws to preserve
great jobs for them, like pumping gas.

Oregon has that law too, by the way, and I'm not
very impressed with Oregonians either.

On 9/9/12 11:00 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:

> I just found out it's illegal to pump your own gas
> in NJ. I think it's evidence your population has
> rather low IQ when you have to pass laws to preserve
> great jobs for them, like pumping gas.

That's been the law in NJ since at least 1950. It has nothing to do with
preserving jobs; it's carryover safety provision that has never been
updated because it provides gas stations with an excuse for charging
higher prices.

-- Larry (pumped his last NJ gasoline at 26.4 cents per gallon...)

On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 23:24:31 -0400, pltrgyst >
wrote:


>That's been the law in NJ since at least 1950. It has nothing to do with
>preserving jobs; it's carryover safety provision that has never been
>updated because it provides gas stations with an excuse for charging
>higher prices.
>
>-- Larry (pumped his last NJ gasoline at 26.4 cents per gallon...)
>

But the prices are no higher.

On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 19:00:34 -0800, Mark Thorson >
wrote:



>
>I just found out it's illegal to pump your own gas
>in NJ. I think it's evidence your population has
>rather low IQ when you have to pass laws to preserve
>great jobs for them, like pumping gas.

NJ also has some of the cheapest gas in the country. I like the idea
of having my gas pumped, especially in the winter.

In MA, every town decides. Gas in the towns that pump for you is no
more expensive than the self serve. I like having that service and
someone is making a few bucks too.

On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 19:00:34 -0800, Mark Thorson >
wrote:

>Boron Elgar wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 18:52:47 -0600, gloria p >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >They have liquor in only one store in Massachusetts and, I think,
>> >Maryland. I don't know where else that law exists, but they cope.
>>
>> NJ has similar laws. It affects places such as Costco, too, here in
>> NJ.
>
>I just found out it's illegal to pump your own gas
>in NJ. I think it's evidence your population has
>rather low IQ when you have to pass laws to preserve
>great jobs for them, like pumping gas.

Yeah, it's a rough life.

When it is hot and sticky, I get to sit in my car while they pump the
gas for me. When it is rainy and windy, I get to sit in my car while
they pump the gas for me. When it is cold and snowy, I get to sit in
my car while they pump the gas for me. When I had a car full of little
kids with me, I got to sit in my car and tend to the kids while they
pumped the gas for me

I keep a book in the car and get to read while they tend to the car

My hands never get dirty.

Oh, and I bet my gas is cheaper than yours, too.

I take road trips all over this wonderful country of ours and believe
me, I don't get out of gas stations for a fill-up.any faster out of
state

Oh, and your low IQ remark? **** you and the horse you rode in on,
asshole.

Boron

On 9/10/2012 7:27 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 19:00:34 -0800, Mark Thorson >
> wrote:

>> I just found out it's illegal to pump your own gas
>> in NJ.

It's only been mentioned here 80,000 times.

>I think it's evidence your population has
>> rather low IQ when you have to pass laws to preserve
>> great jobs for them, like pumping gas.
>
> Yeah, it's a rough life.
>
> When it is hot and sticky, I get to sit in my car while they pump the
> gas for me. When it is rainy and windy, I get to sit in my car while
> they pump the gas for me. When it is cold and snowy, I get to sit in
> my car while they pump the gas for me. When I had a car full of little
> kids with me, I got to sit in my car and tend to the kids while they
> pumped the gas for me

What she said.

> Oh, and your low IQ remark? **** you and the horse you rode in on,
> asshole.

Ditto. Clearly they have dumb people where Mark lives.

nancy

Boron Elgar wrote:
>
> Oh, and your low IQ remark? **** you and the horse you rode in on,
> asshole.

NJ is where the losers go that can't make it in NY.
Oregon serves the same function for California.

On 9/9/2012 9:03 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 18:52:47 -0600, gloria p >
> wrote:
>
>> On 9/9/2012 4:30 PM, Steve Pope wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I do not know whether TJ's has managed to get a change in regulation,
>>> or they have given in and are opening liquor-less stores.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>
>>
>> They have liquor in only one store in Massachusetts and, I think,
>> Maryland. I don't know where else that law exists, but they cope.
>>
>> gloria p
>
> NJ has similar laws. It affects places such as Costco, too, here in
> NJ.
There's a TJ's store in nearby Virginia that sells beer and wine,


--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 18:52:47 -0600, gloria p >
wrote:

> On 9/9/2012 4:30 PM, Steve Pope wrote:
>
> >
> > I do not know whether TJ's has managed to get a change in regulation,
> > or they have given in and are opening liquor-less stores.
> >
> > Steve
> >
>
>
> They have liquor in only one store in Massachusetts and, I think,
> Maryland. I don't know where else that law exists, but they cope.
>
My gosh, those liquor laws are archaic!

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 18:37:43 -0700, sf > wrote:

>

>>
>>
>> They have liquor in only one store in Massachusetts and, I think,
>> Maryland. I don't know where else that law exists, but they cope.
>>
>My gosh, those liquor laws are archaic!

In CT we can now buy booze on Sunday for the first time. In MA chain
stores are allowed only a limited number of licenses no matter how
many stores they have in the state.

In MA, I know the Framingham store has wine, but Worcester/Shrewsbury
does not.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 18:37:43 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>> They have liquor in only one store in Massachusetts and, I think,
>>> Maryland. I don't know where else that law exists, but they cope.
>>>
>> My gosh, those liquor laws are archaic!
>
> In CT we can now buy booze on Sunday for the first time. In MA chain
> stores are allowed only a limited number of licenses no matter how
> many stores they have in the state.
>
> In MA, I know the Framingham store has wine, but Worcester/Shrewsbury
> does not.

I think Brookline has wine. It used to, at any rate. Arlington
and Bedford don't. I don't think Acton has wine either but am not
so sure about that.

--
Jean B.

sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 18:52:47 -0600, gloria p >

>> They have liquor in only one store in Massachusetts and, I think,
>> Maryland. I don't know where else that law exists, but they cope.

>My gosh, those liquor laws are archaic!

Yes, and it seriously reduces the odds of seeing a werewolf
drinking a pina colada at Trader Joe's.


Steve

On 2012-09-10 00:52:47 +0000, gloria p said:

> On 9/9/2012 4:30 PM, Steve Pope wrote:
>
>> I do not know whether TJ's has managed to get a change in regulation,
>> or they have given in and are opening liquor-less stores.
>
> They have liquor in only one store in Massachusetts and, I think,
> Maryland. I don't know where else that law exists, but they cope.

I first started going to TJ's in Costa Mesa in 1990. As far as I could
tell they sold a lot of relatively inexpensive wine and lots of cheeses
that that time were relatively difficult to find. Fancy crackers, nuts
and snacks. That was about all I remembered them even having.

Needless to say they have expanded dramatically since then.

On Sep 9, 6:45*pm, gtr > wrote:
> On 2012-09-10 00:52:47 +0000, gloria p said:
>
> > On 9/9/2012 4:30 PM, Steve Pope wrote:
>
> >> I do not know whether TJ's has managed to get a change in regulation,
> >> or they have given in and are opening liquor-less stores.
>
> > They have liquor in only one store in Massachusetts and, I think,
> > Maryland. *I don't know where else that law exists, but they cope.
>
> I first started going to TJ's in Costa Mesa in 1990. *As far as I could
> tell they sold a lot of relatively inexpensive wine and lots of cheeses
> that that time were relatively difficult to find. *Fancy crackers, nuts
> and snacks. *That was about all I remembered them even having.
>
> Needless to say they have expanded dramatically since then.

TJ's flaxseed water crackers are also very good. For years they kept
the price at 99 cents; now it's $1.29.

On 9/9/2012 7:45 PM, gtr wrote:

> I first started going to TJ's in Costa Mesa in 1990. As far as I could
> tell they sold a lot of relatively inexpensive wine and lots of cheeses


Back in the 80s they had interesting mustards, olive oils, vinegars,
sauces, pastas, rices, nuts, dried fruit, imported sodas like Orangina,
things you couldn't find many other places. They also had "job lots" of
things that were being discontinued by the mfgr and you'd only find them
for a few weeks. That's the kind of thing they can't do since they have
expanded to so many locations.

That's where I first discovered Cambozola, and Mushroom brie. Mmmm.

And CHOCOLATE! For a time in the late 80s they carried 10lb bars/blocks
of Ghirardelli chocolate, milk or dark. When our daughter was at
UCSD/LaJolla she brought us a bar for Christmas one year. It didn't
last as long as you might think. ;-) It was so good!

That's now sold in many smaller grocery stores (like Sprouts) broken
into smaller chunks and individually plastic wrapped.

gloria p

On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 21:09:37 -0600, gloria p >
wrote:

>On 9/9/2012 7:45 PM, gtr wrote:
>
>> I first started going to TJ's in Costa Mesa in 1990. As far as I could
>> tell they sold a lot of relatively inexpensive wine and lots of cheeses
>
>
>Back in the 80s they had interesting mustards, olive oils, vinegars,
>sauces, pastas, rices, nuts, dried fruit, imported sodas like Orangina,
>things you couldn't find many other places. They also had "job lots" of
>things that were being discontinued by the mfgr and you'd only find them
>for a few weeks. That's the kind of thing they can't do since they have
>expanded to so many locations.
>
>That's where I first discovered Cambozola, and Mushroom brie. Mmmm.
>
>And CHOCOLATE! For a time in the late 80s they carried 10lb bars/blocks
>of Ghirardelli chocolate, milk or dark. When our daughter was at
>UCSD/LaJolla she brought us a bar for Christmas one year. It didn't
>last as long as you might think. ;-) It was so good!
>
>That's now sold in many smaller grocery stores (like Sprouts) broken
>into smaller chunks and individually plastic wrapped.
>
>gloria p

I haven't seen mushroom brie in probably 30 years. It's good to hear
that it is still made somewhere. Lovely stuff.
Janet US