In article >, says...
>
> "J. Clarke" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>
> > One of the downsides of socialized medicine? Treatment denied in order
> > to serve a political purpose?
>
> No, one of the upsides is that her treatment there and after she returned
> cost nothing.

So which would you rather? Pay a thousand bucks and have them find your
skull fracture or get free treatment and not find it?

> Anyone, tourist, illegal alien, resident, flyover reject gets
> emergency treatment at no cost. If it isn't a real emergency, they charge
> you about euro 25.

But they didn't do a proper diagnosis and didn't find the injury.

> It wouldn't matter if she'd been taken to a private clinic, the deal is the
> same.

Would the private clinic have failed to do proper diagnosis for
political reasons?

"J. Clarke" > ha scritto nel messaggio

> Would the private clinic have failed to do proper diagnosis for
> political reasons?

So it would seem. Investigation appears to show that not treating and not
reporting is rife in Barcelona. S looked good enough to be allowed on a
plane and that was the deciding factor.

In article >, says...
>
> "J. Clarke" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>
> > Would the private clinic have failed to do proper diagnosis for
> > political reasons?
>
> So it would seem. Investigation appears to show that not treating and not
> reporting is rife in Barcelona. S looked good enough to be allowed on a
> plane and that was the deciding factor.

So in my book it's a fail for socialized medicine.

My concern with it has always been that it will be manipulated for
poltical purposes and now we have an example where it is being
manipulated in that fashion--not one that I would have guessed would
occur but an example nonetheless.

On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 11:01:03 -0400, "J. Clarke" >
wrote:

> In article >, says...
> >
> > "J. Clarke" > ha scritto nel messaggio
> >
> > > Would the private clinic have failed to do proper diagnosis for
> > > political reasons?
> >
> > So it would seem. Investigation appears to show that not treating and not
> > reporting is rife in Barcelona. S looked good enough to be allowed on a
> > plane and that was the deciding factor.
>
> So in my book it's a fail for socialized medicine.

You book is written by ignorant, conservative, backwoods, republicans
with no ability to reason or understand how much they are being
screwed by fellow wealthy republicans who want every penny for
themselves. It says zero about socialized medicine and everything
about covering up crime so they don't scare off the tourists. I
wonder when Mexico will start using that tactic too.
>
> My concern with it has always been that it will be manipulated for
> poltical purposes and now we have an example where it is being
> manipulated in that fashion--not one that I would have guessed would
> occur but an example nonetheless.
>
Yes, statistics are being manipulated but not for the reasons you
claim.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

"J. Clarke" > wrote in message
in.local...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "J. Clarke" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>>
>> > Would the private clinic have failed to do proper diagnosis for
>> > political reasons?
>>
>> So it would seem. Investigation appears to show that not treating and
>> not
>> reporting is rife in Barcelona. S looked good enough to be allowed on a
>> plane and that was the deciding factor.
>
> So in my book it's a fail for socialized medicine.
>
> My concern with it has always been that it will be manipulated for
> poltical purposes and now we have an example where it is being
> manipulated in that fashion--not one that I would have guessed would
> occur but an example nonetheless.

No example of political manipulation relating to crime statistics has been
given in this thread.

Hospitals, private clinics and/or doctors do not complile crime statistics.
Police compile those. At least they do in civilised societies. YMMV.

In article >, ask@itshall
says...
>
> "J. Clarke" > wrote in message
> in.local...
> > In article >, says...
> >>
> >> "J. Clarke" > ha scritto nel messaggio
> >>
> >> > Would the private clinic have failed to do proper diagnosis for
> >> > political reasons?
> >>
> >> So it would seem. Investigation appears to show that not treating and
> >> not
> >> reporting is rife in Barcelona. S looked good enough to be allowed on a
> >> plane and that was the deciding factor.
> >
> > So in my book it's a fail for socialized medicine.
> >
> > My concern with it has always been that it will be manipulated for
> > poltical purposes and now we have an example where it is being
> > manipulated in that fashion--not one that I would have guessed would
> > occur but an example nonetheless.
>
> No example of political manipulation relating to crime statistics has been
> given in this thread.
>
> Hospitals, private clinics and/or doctors do not complile crime statistics.
> Police compile those. At least they do in civilised societies. YMMV.

And we have another candidate for remedial reading.

On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 11:01:03 -0400, J. Clarke wrote:

> In article >, says...
>>
>> "J. Clarke" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>>
>>> Would the private clinic have failed to do proper diagnosis for
>>> political reasons?
>>
>> So it would seem. Investigation appears to show that not treating and not
>> reporting is rife in Barcelona. S looked good enough to be allowed on a
>> plane and that was the deciding factor.
>
> So in my book it's a fail for socialized medicine.
>
> My concern with it has always been that it will be manipulated for
> poltical purposes and now we have an example where it is being
> manipulated in that fashion--not one that I would have guessed would
> occur but an example nonetheless.

this is good news for john mccain!

blake