[Kalmia]

I don't know how many of you read 'Annie's Mailbox', an advice column
which appears in my paper.
A while back, a seeker of help wrote to complain that someone had come
into her kitchen from the out of doors, (had played golf I think it
was) and washed his hands at her kitchen sink. She was appalled and
chided the dirty-handed one for not using her bathroom sink.

Annie agreed that the writer was rightly indignant.

Well, the letters must've come in carloads. One person said that a
sink was a sink, whether food was prepared in the area of not. My
feeling was ' heck, I don't mix ingredients in the sink - what's the
big deal? I keep my kitchen sink reasonable scrubbed.

Your reaction to this handwashing brouhaha? Just curious.

[George Shirley[_2_]]

On 9/25/2010 11:56 AM, Kalmia wrote:
> I don't know how many of you read 'Annie's Mailbox', an advice column
> which appears in my paper.
> A while back, a seeker of help wrote to complain that someone had come
> into her kitchen from the out of doors, (had played golf I think it
> was) and washed his hands at her kitchen sink. She was appalled and
> chided the dirty-handed one for not using her bathroom sink.
>
> Annie agreed that the writer was rightly indignant.
>
> Well, the letters must've come in carloads. One person said that a
> sink was a sink, whether food was prepared in the area of not. My
> feeling was ' heck, I don't mix ingredients in the sink - what's the
> big deal? I keep my kitchen sink reasonable scrubbed.
>
> Your reaction to this handwashing brouhaha? Just curious.

We wash our hands in the sink that is most convenient, that includes the
kitchen sink.

[Dave Smith[_1_]]

On 25/09/2010 12:56 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> I don't know how many of you read 'Annie's Mailbox', an advice column
> which appears in my paper.
> A while back, a seeker of help wrote to complain that someone had come
> into her kitchen from the out of doors, (had played golf I think it
> was) and washed his hands at her kitchen sink. She was appalled and
> chided the dirty-handed one for not using her bathroom sink.
>
> Annie agreed that the writer was rightly indignant.
>
> Well, the letters must've come in carloads. One person said that a
> sink was a sink, whether food was prepared in the area of not. My
> feeling was ' heck, I don't mix ingredients in the sink - what's the
> big deal? I keep my kitchen sink reasonable scrubbed.
>
> Your reaction to this handwashing brouhaha? Just curious.



They are both off their rockers. I see absolutely no problem with
washing one's hands in the sink. I am presuming that they would be
careful not to slop soap suds on nearby food and that they would rinse
soap suds away when they are done. If someone were to chide me for
washing my hands in the sink they would be watching me leave, or never
see me return.

[sandi]

Kalmia >

> I don't know how many of you read 'Annie's Mailbox', an advice
> column which appears in my paper.
> A while back, a seeker of help wrote to complain that someone
> had come into her kitchen from the out of doors, (had played
> golf I think it was) and washed his hands at her kitchen sink.
> She was appalled and chided the dirty-handed one for not
> using her bathroom sink.
>
> Your reaction to this handwashing brouhaha? Just curious.

Hands are washed in all sinks here. No big deal if its the kitchen
sink or bathroom sink. Of course I sanitize sinks, faucets, faucet
handles as needed.

[Ophelia[_7_]]

"George Shirley" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/25/2010 11:56 AM, Kalmia wrote:
>> I don't know how many of you read 'Annie's Mailbox', an advice column
>> which appears in my paper.
>> A while back, a seeker of help wrote to complain that someone had come
>> into her kitchen from the out of doors, (had played golf I think it
>> was) and washed his hands at her kitchen sink. She was appalled and
>> chided the dirty-handed one for not using her bathroom sink.
>>
>> Annie agreed that the writer was rightly indignant.
>>
>> Well, the letters must've come in carloads. One person said that a
>> sink was a sink, whether food was prepared in the area of not. My
>> feeling was ' heck, I don't mix ingredients in the sink - what's the
>> big deal? I keep my kitchen sink reasonable scrubbed.
>>
>> Your reaction to this handwashing brouhaha? Just curious.
>
> We wash our hands in the sink that is most convenient, that includes the
> kitchen sink.

Same here!

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[Roy[_2_]]

On Sep 25, 11:39*am, sandi > wrote:
> Kalmia >
>
> > I don't know how many of you read 'Annie's Mailbox', an advice
> > column which appears in my paper.
> > A while back, a seeker of help wrote to complain that someone
> > had come into her kitchen from the out of doors, (had played
> > golf I think it was) and washed his hands at her kitchen sink.
> > *She was appalled and chided the dirty-handed one for not
> > using her bathroom sink.
>
> > Your reaction to this handwashing brouhaha? *Just curious.
>
> Hands are washed in all sinks here. *No big deal if its the kitchen
> sink or bathroom sink. *Of course I sanitize sinks, faucets, faucet
> handles as needed.

==
When someone with dirty, greasy hands wants to use the bathroom sink,
I direct the person to the kitchen sink. Its a heck of a lot easier to
clean the kitchen sink of greasy spatters than a bathroom basin and
the scrubbing materials in most cases are readily available including
disposable paper towels.

Women especially curse when some home mechanic dirties up the bathroom
after they have made it habitable and welcoming for family and guests.
Been there, done that.
==

[maxine in ri]

On Sep 25, 12:56*pm, Kalmia > wrote:
> I don't know how many of you read 'Annie's Mailbox', an advice column
> which appears in my paper.
> A while back, a seeker of help wrote to complain that someone had come
> into her kitchen from the out of doors, (had played golf I think it
> was) and washed his hands at her kitchen sink. *She was appalled and
> chided the dirty-handed one for not using her bathroom sink.
>
> Annie agreed that the writer was rightly indignant.
>
> Well, the letters must've come in carloads. *One person said that a
> sink was a sink, whether food was prepared in the area of not. *My
> feeling was ' heck, I don't mix ingredients in the sink - what's the
> big deal? I keep my kitchen sink reasonable scrubbed.
>
> Your reaction to this handwashing brouhaha? *Just curious.

My DH will wash his greasy, grimey, motor-dirtied hands at the ktichen
sink because dishsoap is better than just about anything for getting
the grease off. I have to wipe the sink down afterwards (well, he
does the dishes, it's a fair division of labor imho), but so what?
That way, at least, the grime he tracks in goes no further than the
kitchen, so there's less floor to clean up.

just my $0.02
maxine in ri

[blake murphy[_2_]]

On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:56:12 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia wrote:

> I don't know how many of you read 'Annie's Mailbox', an advice column
> which appears in my paper.
> A while back, a seeker of help wrote to complain that someone had come
> into her kitchen from the out of doors, (had played golf I think it
> was) and washed his hands at her kitchen sink. She was appalled and
> chided the dirty-handed one for not using her bathroom sink.
>
> Annie agreed that the writer was rightly indignant.
>
> Well, the letters must've come in carloads. One person said that a
> sink was a sink, whether food was prepared in the area of not. My
> feeling was ' heck, I don't mix ingredients in the sink - what's the
> big deal? I keep my kitchen sink reasonable scrubbed.
>
> Your reaction to this handwashing brouhaha? Just curious.

i would draw the line at ****ing in either.

your pal,
blake

[Brooklyn1]

Kalmia wrote:

>I don't know how many of you read 'Annie's Mailbox', an advice column
>which appears in my paper.
>A while back, a seeker of help wrote to complain that _someone_ had come
>into her kitchen from the out of doors, (had played golf I think it
>was) and washed his hands at her kitchen sink. She was appalled and
>chided the dirty-handed one for not using her bathroom sink.
>
>Annie agreed that the writer was rightly indignant.
>
>Well, the letters must've come in carloads. One person said that a
>sink was a sink, whether food was prepared in the area of not. My
>feeling was ' heck, I don't mix ingredients in the sink - what's the
>big deal? I keep my kitchen sink reasonable scrubbed.
>
>Your reaction to this handwashing brouhaha? Just curious.

What do you mean _someone_... you make it sound like an intruder, and
"dirty-handed" sounds like grimey-handed as in grease monkey.

Had one of my guests asked if it were okay to wash their hands in my
kitchen sink I'd say go right ahead, I often wash my hands in my
kitchen sink, probably a lot more often than in my bathroom sink... my
kitchen sink is much larger than my guest bathroom sink which makes it
easy to wash hands up to the elbows without splashing schmutz about.
However I expect all guests to ask to use the facilities, I never tell
anyone to make themselves to home, HTF do I know how they live... I
don't permit guests free reign to wander about my home, I restrict
visitors to very limited access, to where I can I can keep tabs on
them. Besides, my main bathroom sink is always filled with clean
water for my cats. In fact I'd rather my guests wash their grimy
hands in my kitchen sink, better than their fercockting up my nice
clean guest bathroom. Weather permiting I'd direct anyone with grimy
hands outdoors to the hose bib... that's where I scrub off gardening
grime and vehicle grease. I don't have guests often (I bet yoose can
tell) and not more at a time than I have fingers on one hand... 90% of
the time my guests consist of just one or two. I really don't like
having having a horde of house guests. On occasions when a group of
folks want to assemble for a meal I suggest a list of restaurants
where we can meet. Golf, eh... a lot of folks around here golf, all
the golf courses have superb restaurants... I never heard of after 18
holes the foursome heading for someone's home... all the family
members and friends who don't golf meet at the 19 hole. And golf
courses all have a number of very nice restroom facilities located
inconspicuouly about the fairway perimeters besides full
lockeroom/bathing facilites in the club house... why would a golfer
return all grubby, sloshed to the gills but not dirty-handed.

When I grew up, as with many, folks had but one bathroom... washing at
the kitchen sink was normal. In fact I had relatives hereabout in the
Catskills where as a kid I'd stay all summer, there was no indoor
plumbing; outhouse and outdoor hand pump.

[aem]

On Sep 25, 9:56 am, Kalmia > wrote:
>.....
> Well, the letters must've come in carloads. One person said that a
> sink was a sink, whether food was prepared in the area of not. My
> feeling was ' heck, I don't mix ingredients in the sink - what's the
> big deal? I keep my kitchen sink reasonable scrubbed.
>
> Your reaction to this handwashing brouhaha? Just curious.

The first thing I always do before cooking or preparing food is wash
my hands. Often that is in the kitchen sink. -aem

[Ophelia[_7_]]

"Janet" > wrote in message
...

> I have a separate sink for handwashing. God help anyone who comes to
> the kitchen with dirty hands and washes them in
> the other sinks.
>
> In the UK it's a legal requirement anywhere you make food for sale or
> for paying clients.

But you run a bed and breakfast business, most of us do not!
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[Felice]

"Kalmia" > wrote in message
...
>I don't know how many of you read 'Annie's Mailbox', an advice column
> which appears in my paper.
> A while back, a seeker of help wrote to complain that someone had come
> into her kitchen from the out of doors, (had played golf I think it
> was) and washed his hands at her kitchen sink. She was appalled and
> chided the dirty-handed one for not using her bathroom sink.
>
> Annie agreed that the writer was rightly indignant.
>
> Well, the letters must've come in carloads. One person said that a
> sink was a sink, whether food was prepared in the area of not. My
> feeling was ' heck, I don't mix ingredients in the sink - what's the
> big deal? I keep my kitchen sink reasonable scrubbed.
>
> Your reaction to this handwashing brouhaha? Just curious.

And just where does she wash her hands while she's working in the kitchen?

Felice

[George Shirley[_2_]]

On 9/25/2010 3:07 PM, Felice wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> I don't know how many of you read 'Annie's Mailbox', an advice column
>> which appears in my paper.
>> A while back, a seeker of help wrote to complain that someone had come
>> into her kitchen from the out of doors, (had played golf I think it
>> was) and washed his hands at her kitchen sink. She was appalled and
>> chided the dirty-handed one for not using her bathroom sink.
>>
>> Annie agreed that the writer was rightly indignant.
>>
>> Well, the letters must've come in carloads. One person said that a
>> sink was a sink, whether food was prepared in the area of not. My
>> feeling was ' heck, I don't mix ingredients in the sink - what's the
>> big deal? I keep my kitchen sink reasonable scrubbed.
>>
>> Your reaction to this handwashing brouhaha? Just curious.
>
> And just where does she wash her hands while she's working in the kitchen?
>
> Felice
>
>
I had the same thought, I wash my hands several times during meal prep,
usually with dishwashing liquid. I have a separate towel from the
others, hangs at my waist mostly, to dry those freshly washed hands
with. How else would you handle meat, vegetables, etc. from start to finish?

[Kalmia]

On Sep 25, 1:22*pm, Dave Smith > wrote:
> On 25/09/2010 12:56 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>
> > I don't know how many of you read 'Annie's Mailbox', an advice column
> > which appears in my paper.
> > A while back, a seeker of help wrote to complain that someone had come
> > into her kitchen from the out of doors, (had played golf I think it
> > was) and washed his hands at her kitchen sink. *She was appalled and
> > chided the dirty-handed one for not using her bathroom sink.
>
> > Annie agreed that the writer was rightly indignant.
>
> > Well, the letters must've come in carloads. *One person said that a
> > sink was a sink, whether food was prepared in the area of not. *My
> > feeling was ' heck, I don't mix ingredients in the sink - what's the
> > big deal? I keep my kitchen sink reasonable scrubbed.
>
> > Your reaction to this handwashing brouhaha? *Just curious.
>
> They are both off their rockers. I see absolutely no problem with
> washing one's hands in the sink. I am presuming that they would be
> careful not to slop soap suds on nearby food and that they would rinse
> soap suds away when they are done. *If someone were to chide me for
> washing my hands in the sink they would be watching me leave, or never
> see me return.

I don't recall her rationale, but Annie continued to defend her
position that the plaintiff was justified.

[j h]

Heck, back in the day when I taught hands-on cooking and baking classes
it was amazing how many people had to be prompted to wash their hands
before we began to work with food. jan

[Brooklyn1]

On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 15:40:52 -0500, George Shirley
> wrote:

>On 9/25/2010 3:07 PM, Felice wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I don't know how many of you read 'Annie's Mailbox', an advice column
>>> which appears in my paper.
>>> A while back, a seeker of help wrote to complain that someone had come
>>> into her kitchen from the out of doors, (had played golf I think it
>>> was) and washed his hands at her kitchen sink. She was appalled and
>>> chided the dirty-handed one for not using her bathroom sink.
>>>
>>> Annie agreed that the writer was rightly indignant.
>>>
>>> Well, the letters must've come in carloads. One person said that a
>>> sink was a sink, whether food was prepared in the area of not. My
>>> feeling was ' heck, I don't mix ingredients in the sink - what's the
>>> big deal? I keep my kitchen sink reasonable scrubbed.
>>>
>>> Your reaction to this handwashing brouhaha? Just curious.
>>
>> And just where does she wash her hands while she's working in the kitchen?
>>
>> Felice
>>
>>
>I had the same thought, I wash my hands several times during meal prep,
>usually with dishwashing liquid. I have a separate towel from the
>others, hangs at my waist mostly, to dry those freshly washed hands
>with. How else would you handle meat, vegetables, etc. from start to finish?

I wash my hands with my dishwashing liquid loaded Dobie.

I'm in the habit of using paper towels. For home cooking most meals
require using less than a half dozen sheets, and I use Bounty
Select-A-Size, with half sheets a roll goes a long way. Paper towels
are more sanitary and far less expensive then buying all those cloth
towels and having an extra load of laundry each week. Purchasing
large bundles of paper towels at Sam's Club makes them less expensive
yet. With cloth towels folks tend to stretch out how many jobs each
does eliminating all elements of sanitary... with paper once soiled I
discard them, and those I use to dry washed hands can still be used to
wipe up grease spatter on the stove and spills on floors. And don't
buy the cheap paper towels, cheap is expensive. I also use Bounty
Select-A-Size instead of Kleenex type tissues, they're soft enough for
nose blowing but strong enough to get you through a nasty cold. And
of course with cats paper towels are a must. Besides in the kitchen I
keep rolls of paper towels everywhere; in my night stand, bathrooms,
office, automobile, garage, barn, tractor, garden shed, etc... I never
leave home without a few sheets in my pocket. The only problem I've
incountered is in my barn, the birds shred a roll to bits in no time
for nest building, so now I keep those in a covered contractor's
bucket.

[Arri London]

Kalmia wrote:
>
> I don't know how many of you read 'Annie's Mailbox', an advice column
> which appears in my paper.
> A while back, a seeker of help wrote to complain that someone had come
> into her kitchen from the out of doors, (had played golf I think it
> was) and washed his hands at her kitchen sink. She was appalled and
> chided the dirty-handed one for not using her bathroom sink.
>
> Annie agreed that the writer was rightly indignant.
>
> Well, the letters must've come in carloads. One person said that a
> sink was a sink, whether food was prepared in the area of not. My
> feeling was ' heck, I don't mix ingredients in the sink - what's the
> big deal? I keep my kitchen sink reasonable scrubbed.
>
> Your reaction to this handwashing brouhaha? Just curious.

Our kitchen sink is closer to the back door than the nearest bathroom
sink. When I come in from outdoors, garden work notwithstanding, hands
are washed at the kitchen sink. Otherwise more than one doorknob get
touched with dirty hands, which isn't a good thing AFAIAC.

The kitchen sink (and taps) gets rinsed and bleached regularly. My hands
don't ever touch industrial insectides or pesticides, other than when
washing nonorganically-produced **fruits** and **vegetables**. Should I
wash those things in the bathroom sink hmmmm?

A sink is a sink, as long as it is cleaned properly.

[Goomba[_2_]]

Janet wrote:

> I have a separate sink for handwashing. God help anyone who comes to
> the kitchen with dirty hands and washes them in
> the other sinks.
>
> In the UK it's a legal requirement anywhere you make food for sale or
> for paying clients.
>
> Janet

Which makes sense and may be done here too when you're talking about a
"legal kitchen" where commercial foods are going to be prepared.

We remodeled a bathroom recently and while the plumbers were doing that,
I also had them put a laundry sink into the garage with hot and cold
water as well as the faucet being a huge spray nozzle if needed. We have
a big bottle of that OrangeGoo grease removing soap there yet still my
husband keeps forgetting to use that sink, which he walks right by, and
he comes into the kitchen to wash up! I don't usually mind anyone
washing their hands in the kitchen sink especially since I'm washing
there frequently while cooking too but if I have any food around the
sink I do mind. Its just a matter of knowing when I'm going to mind it
and when not.

[Steve B[_12_]]

"Kalmia" > wrote in message
...
>I don't know how many of you read 'Annie's Mailbox', an advice column
> which appears in my paper.
> A while back, a seeker of help wrote to complain that someone had come
> into her kitchen from the out of doors, (had played golf I think it
> was) and washed his hands at her kitchen sink. She was appalled and
> chided the dirty-handed one for not using her bathroom sink.
>
> Annie agreed that the writer was rightly indignant.
>
> Well, the letters must've come in carloads. One person said that a
> sink was a sink, whether food was prepared in the area of not. My
> feeling was ' heck, I don't mix ingredients in the sink - what's the
> big deal? I keep my kitchen sink reasonable scrubbed.
>
> Your reaction to this handwashing brouhaha? Just curious.

I'll bet that there was a skungy germ laden sponge within touching distance
from the washer's hands. Something that had an exponential development of
scores of very nasty germs. Some people are so fastidious about their
sinks, yet have some offcolored, odiferous slimy sponge right there in front
of God and everyone.

The person who chided the hand washer showed horrible taste in treating a
guest like that in my book, and her violation was far more serious than the
handwasher's.

Aren't sinks made to wash things? Or to just be a place for skanky bacteria
infected sponges?

Steve

[Steve B[_12_]]

"maxine in ri" > wrote in message
...
On Sep 25, 12:56 pm, Kalmia > wrote:
> I don't know how many of you read 'Annie's Mailbox', an advice column
> which appears in my paper.
> A while back, a seeker of help wrote to complain that someone had come
> into her kitchen from the out of doors, (had played golf I think it
> was) and washed his hands at her kitchen sink. She was appalled and
> chided the dirty-handed one for not using her bathroom sink.
>
> Annie agreed that the writer was rightly indignant.
>
> Well, the letters must've come in carloads. One person said that a
> sink was a sink, whether food was prepared in the area of not. My
> feeling was ' heck, I don't mix ingredients in the sink - what's the
> big deal? I keep my kitchen sink reasonable scrubbed.
>
> Your reaction to this handwashing brouhaha? Just curious.

My DH will wash his greasy, grimey, motor-dirtied hands at the ktichen
sink because dishsoap is better than just about anything for getting
the grease off. I have to wipe the sink down afterwards (well, he
does the dishes, it's a fair division of labor imho), but so what?
That way, at least, the grime he tracks in goes no further than the
kitchen, so there's less floor to clean up.

just my $0.02
maxine in ri

Be careful. I used Dawn to clean up after working with steel. It is
treated with a light oil. The Dawn takes off the oil, but it also takes out
the skin oil to the point of cracking and bleeding. Most cheap dishwashing
soaps are the same, regardless of how they tout they have lotion in them.
If they have lotion in them, wouldn't the dishes be so slippery they would
slip from the hands?

Steve

[jmcquown[_2_]]

"Steve B" > wrote in message
...
>
> "maxine in ri" > wrote in message
> ...
> On Sep 25, 12:56 pm, Kalmia > wrote:
>> I don't know how many of you read 'Annie's Mailbox', an advice column
>> which appears in my paper.
>> A while back, a seeker of help wrote to complain that someone had come
>> into her kitchen from the out of doors, (had played golf I think it
>> was) and washed his hands at her kitchen sink. She was appalled and
>> chided the dirty-handed one for not using her bathroom sink.
>>
>> Annie agreed that the writer was rightly indignant.
>>
>> Well, the letters must've come in carloads. One person said that a
>> sink was a sink, whether food was prepared in the area of not. My
>> feeling was ' heck, I don't mix ingredients in the sink - what's the
>> big deal? I keep my kitchen sink reasonable scrubbed.
>>
>> Your reaction to this handwashing brouhaha? Just curious.
>
> My DH will wash his greasy, grimey, motor-dirtied hands at the ktichen
> sink because dishsoap is better than just about anything for getting
> the grease off. I have to wipe the sink down afterwards (well, he
> does the dishes, it's a fair division of labor imho), but so what?
> That way, at least, the grime he tracks in goes no further than the
> kitchen, so there's less floor to clean up.
>
> just my $0.02
> maxine in ri
>
> Be careful. I used Dawn to clean up after working with steel. It is
> treated with a light oil. The Dawn takes off the oil, but it also takes
> out the skin oil to the point of cracking and bleeding. Most cheap
> dishwashing soaps are the same, regardless of how they tout they have
> lotion in them. If they have lotion in them, wouldn't the dishes be so
> slippery they would slip from the hands?
>
> Steve
>

So apply some hand lotion after you wash your hands. It's a no-brainer

Jill

[Nancy Young[_2_]]

Steve B wrote:

> My DH will wash his greasy, grimey, motor-dirtied hands at the ktichen
> sink because dishsoap is better than just about anything for getting
> the grease off. I have to wipe the sink down afterwards (well, he
> does the dishes, it's a fair division of labor imho), but so what?
> That way, at least, the grime he tracks in goes no further than the
> kitchen, so there's less floor to clean up.

I fail to see why you wouldn't wash your hands in the kitchen sink.
I don't put my food down in the sink, I think that's ooky even if you
just washed it. When they test the drain for germs, it's off the
charts. You can only clean the drain so far.

So, my sink is clean and feel free to wash up in it.

> Be careful. I used Dawn to clean up after working with steel. It is
> treated with a light oil. The Dawn takes off the oil, but it also
> takes out the skin oil to the point of cracking and bleeding.

You should probably wear gloves. I have used Dawn for years
and years and my hands don't bleed, you can be assured. It's
too harsh for cleaning a lot of things, but it does a good job on
dishes while not killing my hands.

Then it's the first thing I reach for if I think I've come in contact
with (horrors!) poison ivy.

> Most
> cheap dishwashing soaps are the same, regardless of how they tout
> they have lotion in them. If they have lotion in them, wouldn't the
> dishes be so slippery they would slip from the hands?

I don't know if Dawn claims lotion, but then I don't know if you're
lumping it in with 'cheap dishwashing soaps' ... I never noticed a
problem.

nancy

[Steve B[_12_]]

"Nancy Young" > wrote

> I don't know if Dawn claims lotion, but then I don't know if you're
> lumping it in with 'cheap dishwashing soaps' ... I never noticed a
> problem.
>
> nancy

Work about a quart of dirty motor oil into your hands for two hours. Wash
in Dawn liquid. Repeat four times a day for six weeks. Write back.

BTW, I have absolutely no menstrual problems. Just because one does not
personally experience something does not mean another cannot.

Steve

[Steve B[_12_]]

>> > I have a separate sink for handwashing.

All houses I have built or lived in either had or I installed a mop sink for
the purpose of washing gungy things, like oily hands. The waterless hand
cleaners work well, have a somewhat nonoffensive odor, but it is just nice
to have a dedicated mop sink. They have all sorts of uses from washing the
dog to whatever.

Steve

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[Ed Pawlowski[_2_]]

"Steve B" > wrote in message
...
>
>>> > I have a separate sink for handwashing.
>
> All houses I have built or lived in either had or I installed a mop sink
> for the purpose of washing gungy things, like oily hands. The waterless
> hand cleaners work well, have a somewhat nonoffensive odor, but it is just
> nice to have a dedicated mop sink. They have all sorts of uses from
> washing the dog to whatever.
>
> Steve

Same here. I've never know anyone with a hand-washing sink in the kitchen
though.

[maxine in ri]

On Sep 26, 1:50*am, "Steve B" > wrote:
> "maxine in ri" > wrote in ...
> On Sep 25, 12:56 pm, Kalmia > wrote:
>
> > I don't know how many of you read 'Annie's Mailbox', an advice column
> > which appears in my paper.
> > A while back, a seeker of help wrote to complain that someone had come
> > into her kitchen from the out of doors, (had played golf I think it
> > was) and washed his hands at her kitchen sink. She was appalled and
> > chided the dirty-handed one for not using her bathroom sink.
>
> > Annie agreed that the writer was rightly indignant.
>
> > Well, the letters must've come in carloads. One person said that a
> > sink was a sink, whether food was prepared in the area of not. My
> > feeling was ' heck, I don't mix ingredients in the sink - what's the
> > big deal? I keep my kitchen sink reasonable scrubbed.
>
> > Your reaction to this handwashing brouhaha? Just curious.
>
> My DH will wash his greasy, grimey, motor-dirtied hands at the ktichen
> sink because dishsoap is better than just about anything for getting
> the grease off. *I have to wipe the sink down afterwards (well, he
> does the dishes, it's a fair division of labor imho), but so what?
> That way, at least, the grime he tracks in goes no further than the
> kitchen, so there's less floor to clean up.
>
> just my $0.02
> maxine in ri
>
> Be careful. *I used Dawn to clean up after working with steel. *It is
> treated with a light oil. *The Dawn takes off the oil, but it also takes out
> the skin oil to the point of cracking and bleeding. *Most cheap dishwashing
> soaps are the same, regardless of how they tout they have lotion in them.
> If they have lotion in them, wouldn't the dishes be so slippery they would
> slip from the hands?
>
> Steve

Of course they don't differentiate between petro and bio oils.<G> DH
won't use hand cream or anything else on his hands, so I have to ask
nicely for a nice oily backrub after he's been mucking around outside,
but after he's cleaned up. So far, he hasn't caught on to my sneaky
methods of keeping him whole and healthy...<G>

maxine in ri

[ImStillMags]

On Sep 25, 1:07*pm, "Felice" > wrote:

>
> And just where does she wash her hands while she's working in the kitchen?
>
> Felice

Exactly. Unless you own a restaurant or have a Heath Service
Inspected kitchen, you don't have a seperate hand washing sink.

I fail to see the problem. Hands are washed, soap and water is used,
sinks are cleaned and sanitized.

I have no problem with it. At home I wash my hand in the kitchen
sink much more than in the bathroom because I spend more time in the
other rooms of the house than the bathroom. I spend lots of time in
the kitchen so that's where my hands get washed.

[Catmandy (Sheryl)]

On Sep 26, 1:55*pm, ImStillMags > wrote:
> On Sep 25, 1:07*pm, "Felice" > wrote:
>
>
>
> > And just where does she wash her hands while she's working in the kitchen?
>
> > Felice
>
> Exactly. * Unless you own a restaurant or have a Heath Service
> Inspected kitchen, you *don't have a seperate hand washing sink.
>
> I fail to see the problem. * Hands are washed, soap and water is used,
> sinks are cleaned and sanitized.
>
> I have no problem with it. * At home I wash my hand in the kitchen
> sink much more than in the bathroom because I spend more time in the
> other rooms of the house than the bathroom. *I spend lots of time in
> the kitchen so that's where my hands get washed.

I think the main difference between a "family" situation and a "food
service" situation is that in a family (whether related by blood or
not), you live in such close proximity to the others in the home that
you become innoculated to their "germs" and they no longer make you
sick. However, when cooking for strangers, even the most harmless
microbes can make someone sick if their immune systems fight them as
"invaders".

[sf[_9_]]

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 12:52:26 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
> wrote:

>
> "Steve B" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >>> > I have a separate sink for handwashing.
> >
> > All houses I have built or lived in either had or I installed a mop sink
> > for the purpose of washing gungy things, like oily hands. The waterless
> > hand cleaners work well, have a somewhat nonoffensive odor, but it is just
> > nice to have a dedicated mop sink. They have all sorts of uses from
> > washing the dog to whatever.
> >
> > Steve
>
> Same here. I've never know anyone with a hand-washing sink in the kitchen
> though.

Me either. When they have a small extra sink in the kitchen, isn't
that usually titled a "prep sink" (meaning one for the extra cook to
use)?

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

[Brooklyn1]

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 07:57:06 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>"Steve B" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "maxine in ri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> On Sep 25, 12:56 pm, Kalmia > wrote:
>>> I don't know how many of you read 'Annie's Mailbox', an advice column
>>> which appears in my paper.
>>> A while back, a seeker of help wrote to complain that someone had come
>>> into her kitchen from the out of doors, (had played golf I think it
>>> was) and washed his hands at her kitchen sink. She was appalled and
>>> chided the dirty-handed one for not using her bathroom sink.
>>>
>>> Annie agreed that the writer was rightly indignant.
>>>
>>> Well, the letters must've come in carloads. One person said that a
>>> sink was a sink, whether food was prepared in the area of not. My
>>> feeling was ' heck, I don't mix ingredients in the sink - what's the
>>> big deal? I keep my kitchen sink reasonable scrubbed.
>>>
>>> Your reaction to this handwashing brouhaha? Just curious.
>>
>> My DH will wash his greasy, grimey, motor-dirtied hands at the ktichen
>> sink because dishsoap is better than just about anything for getting
>> the grease off. I have to wipe the sink down afterwards (well, he
>> does the dishes, it's a fair division of labor imho), but so what?
>> That way, at least, the grime he tracks in goes no further than the
>> kitchen, so there's less floor to clean up.
>>
>> just my $0.02
>> maxine in ri
>>
>> Be careful. I used Dawn to clean up after working with steel. It is
>> treated with a light oil. The Dawn takes off the oil, but it also takes
>> out the skin oil to the point of cracking and bleeding. Most cheap
>> dishwashing soaps are the same, regardless of how they tout they have
>> lotion in them. If they have lotion in them, wouldn't the dishes be so
>> slippery they would slip from the hands?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>
>So apply some hand lotion after you wash your hands. It's a no-brainer
>
>Jill

No lotion replaces natural skin oils... lotions only sit on the very
surface of the outer layer of the skin, feels slick making folks think
they've done something when all they've accomplished is wasted their
money.

One should wear rubber gloves when hand dishwashing... the combination
of potent grease cutting dish liquids and hot water wrecks skin.

[Dan Abel]

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:


> So apply some hand lotion after you wash your hands. It's a no-brainer

I've never really understood the hand lotion thing. First you wash off
the grease, then you put some grease on? I guess if I developed chapped
and dry skin I would have to re-evaluate this!

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

[Dan Abel]

In article >,
"Steve B" > wrote:

> >> > I have a separate sink for handwashing.
>
> All houses I have built or lived in either had or I installed a mop sink for
> the purpose of washing gungy things, like oily hands. The waterless hand
> cleaners work well, have a somewhat nonoffensive odor, but it is just nice
> to have a dedicated mop sink. They have all sorts of uses from washing the
> dog to whatever.

I've known people who have had a "mud bathroom", which I understand is a
bathroom directly accessible from the outside, so you can wash up before
getting the rest of the house dirty. A mop sink doesn't seem very
practical to me, but maybe:

http://www.baddesigns.com/mopsnk.html

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

[Lou decruss]

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 11:47:10 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

>In article >,
> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>
>> So apply some hand lotion after you wash your hands. It's a no-brainer
>
>I've never really understood the hand lotion thing. First you wash off
>the grease, then you put some grease on? I guess if I developed chapped
>and dry skin I would have to re-evaluate this!

Work a winter outside in the midwest and you'll re-evaluate the first
cold day. Your hands get dry and crack. It's very painful and they
bleed. The best thing to do is cover your hands with loads of lotion
and sleep with socks on your hands. Home paraffin dipping machines
weren't as cheap when I worked outside but they would have helped.
We've got one now and I use is once in awhile during the winter even
though I don't work outside anymore.

Lou

[Lou decruss]

On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:56:12 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:

>I don't know how many of you read 'Annie's Mailbox', an advice column
>which appears in my paper.
>A while back, a seeker of help wrote to complain that someone had come
>into her kitchen from the out of doors, (had played golf I think it
>was) and washed his hands at her kitchen sink. She was appalled and
>chided the dirty-handed one for not using her bathroom sink.
>
>Annie agreed that the writer was rightly indignant.
>
>Well, the letters must've come in carloads. One person said that a
>sink was a sink, whether food was prepared in the area of not. My
>feeling was ' heck, I don't mix ingredients in the sink - what's the
>big deal? I keep my kitchen sink reasonable scrubbed.
>
>Your reaction to this handwashing brouhaha? Just curious.

Sounds nuts to me. If I'm all dirty there's no way I'm using the
bathroom.

Lou

[sf[_9_]]

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 11:52:31 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:
>
> A mop sink doesn't seem very practical to me, but maybe:
>
> http://www.baddesigns.com/mopsnk.html

I was visualizing a laundry sink... the old fashioned metal kind that
washers used to drain into. People also dumped their bucket of mop
water and rinsed their mops out them.

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

[Brooklyn1]

Janet told us...
>
>I have a separate sink for handwashing. God help anyone who
>comes to the kitchen with dirty hands and washes them in
>the other sinks.
>
>In the UK it's a legal requirement anywhere you make food for sale
>or for paying clients.

Same in the US, professional/commercial kitchens do not contain soap,
no glass either... those are health department violations.

[Brooklyn1]

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 11:52:31 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

>In article >,
> "Steve B" > wrote:
>
>> >> > I have a separate sink for handwashing.
>>
>> All houses I have built or lived in either had or I installed a mop sink for
>> the purpose of washing gungy things, like oily hands. The waterless hand
>> cleaners work well, have a somewhat nonoffensive odor, but it is just nice
>> to have a dedicated mop sink. They have all sorts of uses from washing the
>> dog to whatever.
>
>I've known people who have had a "mud bathroom", which I understand is a
>bathroom directly accessible from the outside, so you can wash up before
>getting the rest of the house dirty. A mop sink doesn't seem very
>practical to me, but maybe:
>
>http://www.baddesigns.com/mopsnk.html

I think the proper name for the sink refered to is "utility sink", had
one in the basement right between the washer and dryer, the washer
water dumped into that sink. Was a very handy sink on occasion but was
rarely used for general hand washing. I would install one here if I
had a space on the main floor but I don't and down a flight of 14
steps to the basement just to wash something oversized on rare
occasion isn't practical. Instead I have an oversize kitchen sink...
for anything more I have a garden hose outdoors... I even have a
tempered water hose bib at the head of my driveway (I've never used
it, installed by the last owner to have warm water for washing winter
salt from vehicles, he used his tractor to plow snow from people's
driveways too.

This one is very nice but there are much less expensive versions made
of plastic.
http://www.vintagetub.com/asp/produc...item_no=K-6650

[Brooklyn1]

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 09:11:03 -0700, "Steve B"
> wrote:

>
>"Nancy Young" > wrote
>
>> I don't know if Dawn claims lotion, but then I don't know if you're
>> lumping it in with 'cheap dishwashing soaps' ... I never noticed a
>> problem.
>>
>> nancy
>
>Work about a quart of dirty motor oil into your hands for two hours. Wash
>in Dawn liquid. Repeat four times a day for six weeks. Write back.

You're pretty much an imbecile to be doing that grease monkey job
without wearing protective gloves. And nothing you write is
believeable, NOTHING!

[Nancy Young[_2_]]

Steve B wrote:
> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>
>> I don't know if Dawn claims lotion, but then I don't know if you're
>> lumping it in with 'cheap dishwashing soaps' ... I never noticed a
>> problem.

> Work about a quart of dirty motor oil into your hands for two hours.
> Wash in Dawn liquid. Repeat four times a day for six weeks. Write
> back.

You wondered if having lotion in a dishwasher detergent would
make dishes slippery. I don't know why you're going on about
dirty motor oil.

> BTW, I have absolutely no menstrual problems. Just because one does
> not personally experience something does not mean another cannot.

Something's screwing with your head, I don't know what.

nancy

[Dave Smith[_1_]]

On 26/09/2010 7:57 AM, jmcquown wrote:

>> Be careful. I used Dawn to clean up after working with steel. It is
>> treated with a light oil. The Dawn takes off the oil, but it also
>> takes out the skin oil to the point of cracking and bleeding. Most
>> cheap dishwashing soaps are the same, regardless of how they tout they
>> have lotion in them. If they have lotion in them, wouldn't the dishes
>> be so slippery they would slip from the hands?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>
> So apply some hand lotion after you wash your hands. It's a no-brainer


I would think that the "no-brainer" would be avoiding things that cause
cracking and bleeding.