Hello All!

I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major nuisance. After
a messy accident with the rim of a regularly opened can, I bought an OXO
side cutter. It does a good job and no more cuts but I think the take-up
or edge catching method could be improved, as could the built-in pliers
to pull off the lid. Does anyone else use a side cutter? I think the
manufacturer should think of making the mechanism more visible instead
of having to use it blindly.


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James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On 2010-08-27, James Silverton > wrote:

> I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major nuisance. After
> a messy accident with the rim of a regularly opened can, I bought an OXO
> side cutter. It does a good job and no more cuts but I think the take-up
> or edge catching method could be improved, as could the built-in pliers
> to pull off the lid. Does anyone else use a side cutter? I think the
> manufacturer should think of making the mechanism more visible instead
> of having to use it blindly.

I'm still trying to imagine how one can be cut by a can lid. I've
never been cut by one in over 55 yrs and I used to work in a cannery.
Paper, yes. Can lid, no. <shrug>

nb

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2010-08-27, James Silverton > wrote:
>
>> I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major nuisance. After
>> a messy accident with the rim of a regularly opened can, I bought an OXO
>> side cutter. It does a good job and no more cuts but I think the take-up
>> or edge catching method could be improved, as could the built-in pliers
>> to pull off the lid. Does anyone else use a side cutter? I think the
>> manufacturer should think of making the mechanism more visible instead
>> of having to use it blindly.
>
> I'm still trying to imagine how one can be cut by a can lid. I've
> never been cut by one in over 55 yrs and I used to work in a cannery.
> Paper, yes. Can lid, no. <shrug>
>
> nb



Same here, nb. I've never been cut by a can lid. Wouldn't waste my money
on a side-cutting do-dad.

Jill

jmcquown wrote on Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:52:42 -0400:

> "notbob" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2010-08-27, James Silverton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major
>>> nuisance. After a messy accident with the rim of a regularly
>>> opened can, I bought an OXO side cutter. It does a good job
>>> and no more cuts but I think the take-up or edge catching
>>> method could be improved, as could the built-in pliers to
>>> pull off the lid. Does anyone else use a side cutter? I
>>> think the manufacturer should think of making the mechanism
>>> more visible instead of having to use it blindly.
>>
>> I'm still trying to imagine how one can be cut by a can lid.
>> I've never been cut by one in over 55 yrs and I used to work
>> in a cannery. Paper, yes. Can lid, no. <shrug>
>>
>> nb

> Same here, nb. I've never been cut by a can lid. Wouldn't
> waste my money on a side-cutting do-dad.

The edge of a regularly cut can *is sharp* !

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James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

James Silverton wrote:

> The edge of a regularly cut can *is sharp* !

I picture that cutting the side instead of the top would
just make a sharp edge on the can rather than the lid.

Am I picturing this all wrong?

nancy

Nancy wrote on Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:39:11 -0400:

>> The edge of a regularly cut can *is sharp* !

> I picture that cutting the side instead of the top would
> just make a sharp edge on the can rather than the lid.

> Am I picturing this all wrong?

The major difference from the traditional can opener is that the side
cutter rolls over the edge of the can so that it is not sharp.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:39:11 -0400, "Nancy Young"
> wrote:

>James Silverton wrote:
>
>> The edge of a regularly cut can *is sharp* !
>
>I picture that cutting the side instead of the top would
>just make a sharp edge on the can rather than the lid.
>
>Am I picturing this all wrong?
>
>nancy

What the side cutter does is break the seal of the top from the can.
Then the lid has to be pried off that's why the side pliers on the
opener. There is no cutting involved at all.

koko
--
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www.kokoscornerblog.com
Updated 8/25

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jmcquown wrote:
>
> "notbob" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 2010-08-27, James Silverton > wrote:
> >
> >> I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major nuisance. After
> >> a messy accident with the rim of a regularly opened can, I bought an OXO
> >> side cutter. It does a good job and no more cuts but I think the take-up
> >> or edge catching method could be improved, as could the built-in pliers
> >> to pull off the lid. Does anyone else use a side cutter? I think the
> >> manufacturer should think of making the mechanism more visible instead
> >> of having to use it blindly.
> >
> > I'm still trying to imagine how one can be cut by a can lid. I've
> > never been cut by one in over 55 yrs and I used to work in a cannery.
> > Paper, yes. Can lid, no. <shrug>
> >
> > nb
>
> Same here, nb. I've never been cut by a can lid. Wouldn't waste my money
> on a side-cutting do-dad.
>
> Jill

I can assure you that they are not a waste of money. I've been using a
side cut opener (Zyliss) for quite some time and I love it. They have a
number of advantages over regular openers, such as:

- The lid can be placed back on the can. This is good for many items you
may use over several days.
- There is no interior lip left on the can, so getting all the contents
out is easier.
- No sharp edges on the removed lid. This reduces the chances of the lid
puncturing your garbage bag.

On 8/27/2010 10:26 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2010-08-27, James > wrote:
>
>> I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major nuisance. After
>> a messy accident with the rim of a regularly opened can, I bought an OXO
>> side cutter. It does a good job and no more cuts but I think the take-up
>> or edge catching method could be improved, as could the built-in pliers
>> to pull off the lid. Does anyone else use a side cutter? I think the
>> manufacturer should think of making the mechanism more visible instead
>> of having to use it blindly.
>
> I'm still trying to imagine how one can be cut by a can lid. I've
> never been cut by one in over 55 yrs and I used to work in a cannery.
> Paper, yes. Can lid, no.<shrug>

Yeah, me too. I've don't have any problems with can lids in my
63 years on earth. And I agree about paper. Not a lot but I've
had my share of paper cuts. Who would thing paper would be more
dangerous than tin cans. ;-)

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2010-08-27, James Silverton > wrote:
>
>> I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major nuisance. After
>> a messy accident with the rim of a regularly opened can, I bought an OXO
>> side cutter. It does a good job and no more cuts but I think the take-up
>> or edge catching method could be improved, as could the built-in pliers
>> to pull off the lid. Does anyone else use a side cutter? I think the
>> manufacturer should think of making the mechanism more visible instead
>> of having to use it blindly.
>
> I'm still trying to imagine how one can be cut by a can lid. I've
> never been cut by one in over 55 yrs and I used to work in a cannery.
> Paper, yes. Can lid, no. <shrug>

When we moved into our military housing on Cape Cod, I didn't have a sharp
knife or scissors with me. I did have a can opener. Just the cheap metal
kind. And I had a coffee pot that I had bought. I saved the metal top
piece from a can of coffee that I opened. MIL and I used it to slice open
the tops of boxes and to cut other things until we unpacked the real things.
So yes, it was sharp. Having said that, I am 51 now and have never gotten
cut on a can lid.

However, a few years ago, daughter got a nasty cut from a can of black
olives. Not the lid, but the can itself. I did have a side opener when she
was little. I didn't like it because I found that when the top is removed
in that fashion, it leaves stringy glue behind. I really didn't want that
in my food. Anyway... I had opened and drained a can of black olives. I
had set it aside and turned back to the stove to finish making the dinner.
Can't remember now why I had the olives. Black olives are her favorite
food. So she came into the kitchen, reached her small hand all the way into
the can (I believe I had removed some), and when she pulled her hand back
out, got it caught on the sharp bit on the side. My hands are too big to
stuff in a can. So I've never done that.

"James Silverton" wrote:
>
>I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major nuisance. After
>a messy accident with the rim of a regularly opened can, I bought an OXO
>side cutter. It does a good job and no more cuts but I think the take-up
>or edge catching method could be improved, as could the built-in pliers
>to pull off the lid. Does anyone else use a side cutter? I think the
>manufacturer should think of making the mechanism more visible instead
>of having to use it blindly.

In some 60 years I've not cut myself even once from using a
Swing-A-Way... actually I don't see how it's possible unless one uses
the lid to slice themself on purpose.

On 8/27/2010 08:53, brooklyn1 wrote:
> In some 60 years I've not cut myself even once from using a
> Swing-A-Way... actually I don't see how it's possible unless one uses
> the lid to slice themself on purpose.

I used to love the old Swing-A-Way my grandmother had mounted on the
cabinet by the kitchen sink. But it got tricky if the magnet that held
the lid wasn't holding, and more than once we risked our little fingers
having to fish the lid out of a can's contents. Still, I have not yet
cut myself on a lid. On the sides, yes. But not on the lid.

On Aug 27, 8:20*am, "James Silverton" >
wrote:
> Hello All!
>
> I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major nuisance. After
> a messy accident with the rim of a regularly opened can, I bought an OXO
> side cutter. It does a good job and no more cuts but I think the take-up
> or edge catching method could be improved, as could the built-in pliers
> to pull off the lid. Does anyone else use a side cutter? I think the
> manufacturer should think of making the mechanism more visible instead
> of having to use it blindly.
>
> --
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
>
> Email, with obvious alterations:
> not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

==
Don't use sidecutting can openers...they are crappy gadgets. Problem
solved.

On blood thinners and have bleeding problems?...get to your doctor.
Have a test...sounds to me that your dosage is too high. I am on blood
thinner as well and a test is required every six months or so to make
sure that the dosage is appropriate.
==

Roy wrote:
>"James Silverton"wrote:
>>
>> I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major nuisance.
>
>On blood thinners and have bleeding problems?...get to your doctor.
>Have a test...sounds to me that your dosage is too high. I am on blood
>thinner as well and a test is required every six months or so to make
>sure that the dosage is appropriate.

What decrepit old farts, debating blood thinners on a cooking group.
I've been on thinners since thirteen years old... penis thinners! LOL

On Aug 27, 9:26*am, brooklyn1 > wrote:
> Roy wrote:
> >"James Silverton"wrote:
>
> >> I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major nuisance.
>
> >On blood thinners and have bleeding problems?...get to your doctor.
> >Have a test...sounds to me that your dosage is too high. I am on blood
> >thinner as well and a test is required every six months or so to make
> >sure that the dosage is appropriate.
>
> What decrepit old farts, debating blood thinners on a cooking group.
> I've been on thinners since thirteen years old... penis thinners! LOL

==
I'm sure that you too will be "decrepit" if you should live as long as
we have. As youngsters, our generation didn't "dis-respect" our elders
as the spoiled generation of today apparently does. The "me, me, me"
self-absorbed and suck-a-tit brats of today will get quite a shock
when they age and expect to be catered to and such treatment is not
forthcoming.
==

On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:26:29 -0400, brooklyn1 wrote:

> Roy wrote:
>>"James Silverton"wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major nuisance.
>>
>>On blood thinners and have bleeding problems?...get to your doctor.
>>Have a test...sounds to me that your dosage is too high. I am on blood
>>thinner as well and a test is required every six months or so to make
>>sure that the dosage is appropriate.
>
> What decrepit old farts, debating blood thinners on a cooking group.
> I've been on thinners since thirteen years old... penis thinners! LOL

apparently, they've worked like a charm...maybe you should have stopped at
pencil instead of going for needle.

blake

In article
>,
Roy > wrote:

> On Aug 27, 8:20*am, "James Silverton" >
> wrote:
> > Hello All!
> >
> > I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major nuisance.

> Don't use sidecutting can openers...they are crappy gadgets. Problem
> solved.

Or get one that works. My sister loves hers. I'll take a pass, though.

> On blood thinners and have bleeding problems?...get to your doctor.

If you don't have potential bleeding problems, you might be on a low
preventive dose. I'm not one of the two million in the US on these.
Yet.

> Have a test...sounds to me that your dosage is too high. I am on blood
> thinner as well and a test is required every six months or so to make
> sure that the dosage is appropriate.

Depending on circumstances, the test is given every week to a month:

http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/w...blood-thinners

Warfarin, or Coumadin, is used as a rat poison. The dose must be
controlled pretty carefully. Changes in diet change the dosage.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Roy wrote on Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:07:25 -0700 (PDT):

> On Aug 27, 8:20 am, "James Silverton"
> > wrote:
>> Hello All!
>>
>> I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major
>> nuisance. After a messy accident with the rim of a regularly
>> opened can, I bought an OXO side cutter. It does a good job
>> and no more cuts but I think the take-up or edge catching
>> method could be improved, as could the built-in pliers to
>> pull off the lid. Does anyone else use a side cutter? I think
>> the manufacturer should think of making the mechanism more
>> visible instead of having to use it blindly.
>>
>> --
>>
>> James Silverton
>> Potomac, Maryland
>>
>> Email, with obvious alterations:
>> not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

> ==
> Don't use sidecutting can openers...they are crappy gadgets.
> Problem solved.

Thanks for the amateur medical advice but I have my clotting time
checked every 2-4 weeks and I have never cut myself with a side opener.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

"James Silverton" > wrote in message
...
> Roy wrote on Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:07:25 -0700 (PDT):
>
>> On Aug 27, 8:20 am, "James Silverton"
>> > wrote:
>>> Hello All!
>>>
>>> I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major
>>> nuisance. After a messy accident with the rim of a regularly
>>> opened can, I bought an OXO side cutter. It does a good job
>>> and no more cuts but I think the take-up or edge catching
>>> method could be improved, as could the built-in pliers to
>>> pull off the lid. Does anyone else use a side cutter? I think
>>> the manufacturer should think of making the mechanism more
>>> visible instead of having to use it blindly.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> James Silverton
>>> Potomac, Maryland
>>>
>>> Email, with obvious alterations:
>>> not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
>
>> ==
>> Don't use sidecutting can openers...they are crappy gadgets.
>> Problem solved.
>
> Thanks for the amateur medical advice but I have my clotting time checked
> every 2-4 weeks and I have never cut myself with a side opener.
>

<sigh> You really will have to change that Pious you are driving. May I
interest you in a slightly battered Shogun?

--
--
https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

Ophelia wrote on Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:29:24 +0100:


> "James Silverton" > wrote in
> message ...
>> Roy wrote on Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:07:25 -0700 (PDT):
>>
>>> On Aug 27, 8:20 am, "James Silverton"
>>> > wrote:
>>>> Hello All!
>>>>
>>>> I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major
>>>> nuisance. After a messy accident with the rim of a
>>>> regularly opened can, I bought an OXO side cutter. It does a good
>>>> job and no more cuts but I think the take-up or edge
>>>> catching method could be improved, as could the built-in
>>>> pliers to pull off the lid. Does anyone else use a side
>>>> cutter? I think the manufacturer should think of making the
>>>> mechanism more visible instead of having to use it blindly.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> James Silverton
>>>> Potomac, Maryland
>>>>
>>>> Email, with obvious alterations:
>>>> not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
>>
>>> ==
>>> Don't use sidecutting can openers...they are crappy gadgets.
>>> Problem solved.
>>
>> Thanks for the amateur medical advice but I have my clotting
>> time checked every 2-4 weeks and I have never cut myself with
>> a side opener.
>>
> <sigh> You really will have to change that Pious you are
> driving. May I interest you in a slightly battered Shogun?

I didn't anticipate the extensive medical advice since I was just
setting the background for asking about side-cutting can openers:-) So
far, I've only found the OXO but I'll have to look out for others
mentioned. As I said, the OXO is fairly easy to use tho' it doesn't
reach the nearly blindfold ease of a conventional can-opener. Have you
ever used one of those jab-it-in openers that used to come on multi-tool
penknives? They weren't too hard to use but the jagged can and lid was
really dangerous. I also had an early side cutter that did not roll over
the edge and which was no safer than a regular can opener.

I haven't got a Pious since it probably would have trouble with the hill
at my home during snow storms. I'm afraid I drive a conventional four
wheel drive medium-sized SUV. My son does have a Pious but he lives in
Seattle. I might look into a hybrid SUV if the time comes to replace
mine but I've always liked 0-60 times of 8-9 seconds for safety in
merging onto a thruway.
--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Aug 27, 12:09*pm, "James Silverton" >
wrote:
> *Roy *wrote *on Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:07:25 -0700 (PDT):
>
>
>
> > On Aug 27, 8:20 am, "James Silverton"
> > > wrote:
> >> Hello All!
>
> >> I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major
> >> nuisance. After a messy accident with the rim of a regularly
> >> opened can, I bought an OXO side cutter. It does a good job
> >> and no more cuts but I think the take-up or edge catching
> >> method could be improved, as could the built-in pliers to
> >> pull off the lid. Does anyone else use a side cutter? I think
> >> the manufacturer should think of making the mechanism more
> >> visible instead of having to use it blindly.
>
> >> --
>
> >> James Silverton
> >> Potomac, Maryland
>
> >> Email, with obvious alterations:
> >> not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
> > ==
> > Don't use sidecutting can openers...they are crappy gadgets.
> > Problem solved.
>
> Thanks for the amateur *medical advice but I have my clotting time
> checked every 2-4 weeks and I have never cut myself with a side opener.
>
> --
>
> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland
>
> Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

==
So if you never cut yourself with the side opener...what on earth are
you complaining about?
==

On 8/27/2010 09:07, Roy wrote:
> On blood thinners and have bleeding problems?...get to your doctor.
> Have a test...sounds to me that your dosage is too high. I am on blood
> thinner as well and a test is required every six months or so to make
> sure that the dosage is appropriate.

That's incorrect. Anyone taking anticoagulants experiences slowed
coagulation, so anyone taking (and I choke on this every time I have to
say it) "blood thinners" will have slowed coagulation and therefore more
bleeding from even minor injuries. It's expected that he would bleed
more, and not necessarily a high of too high a dosage.

On Aug 27, 2:12*pm, Pennyaline > wrote:
> On 8/27/2010 09:07, Roy wrote:
>
> > On blood thinners and have bleeding problems?...get to your doctor.
> > Have a test...sounds to me that your dosage is too high. I am on blood
> > thinner as well and a test is required every six months or so to make
> > sure that the dosage is appropriate.
>
> That's incorrect. Anyone taking anticoagulants experiences slowed
> coagulation, so anyone taking (and I choke on this every time I have to
> say it) "blood thinners" will have slowed coagulation and therefore more
> bleeding from even minor injuries. It's expected that he would bleed
> more, and not necessarily a high of too high a dosage.

==
Every circumstance or medical condition is different...I was referring
to mine. In fact they have only checked mine once in the last 18
months. No problem after shaving nicks although I had one nasty
nosebleed which was a bit much.
==

On 8/27/2010 15:05, Roy wrote:
> Every circumstance or medical condition is different...I was referring
> to mine. In fact they have only checked mine once in the last 18
> months. No problem after shaving nicks although I had one nasty
> nosebleed which was a bit much.
> ==

I didn't say *anything* about the frequency of testing, so I couldn't
possibly have been wrong about it. I also made a general statement about
the effects of anticoagulants and not a specific statement about any
specific malady, so I couldn't have made a mistake about that either.
Try again.

I'm glad that you have "no problem" with shaving nicks and the like, but
be aware that each person's experience is subjective. What is no problem
to you may be a serious problem to another.

<and vice versa>

"James Silverton" > wrote in message
...
> Hello All!
>
> I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major nuisance. After a
> messy accident with the rim of a regularly opened can, I bought an OXO
> side cutter. It does a good job and no more cuts but I think the take-up
> or edge catching method could be improved, as could the built-in pliers to
> pull off the lid. Does anyone else use a side cutter? I think the
> manufacturer should think of making the mechanism more visible instead of
> having to use it blindly.
>

Hi James,
I use a side cutting opener. I agree the mechanism should be more visible
but after using them for a few months it's not an issue anymore. The pliers
require a little getting used to too.

I use one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Kuhn-Rikon-Aut...d_bxgy_k_img_c

Regards,
Jon

On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:20:18 -0400, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

>Hello All!
>
>I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major nuisance. After
>a messy accident with the rim of a regularly opened can, I bought an OXO
>side cutter. It does a good job and no more cuts but I think the take-up
>or edge catching method could be improved, as could the built-in pliers
>to pull off the lid. Does anyone else use a side cutter? I think the
>manufacturer should think of making the mechanism more visible instead
>of having to use it blindly.

I have a electric Krups side opener that I have had for close to 10
years and it still works fine. I even bought a second one for backup.
Looks like that was a good move because I don't see the one I have on
Amazon. Haven't done an exhaustive search.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

"The Cook" > wrote in message
...
| On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:20:18 -0400, "James Silverton"
| > wrote:
|
| >Hello All!
| >
| >I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major nuisance. After
| >a messy accident with the rim of a regularly opened can, I bought an OXO
| >side cutter. It does a good job and no more cuts but I think the take-up
| >or edge catching method could be improved, as could the built-in pliers
| >to pull off the lid. Does anyone else use a side cutter? I think the
| >manufacturer should think of making the mechanism more visible instead
| >of having to use it blindly.
|
| I have a electric Krups side opener that I have had for close to 10
| years and it still works fine. I even bought a second one for backup.
| Looks like that was a good move because I don't see the one I have on
| Amazon. Haven't done an exhaustive search.

Yes, I have had one for years. Called the Krups Open Master, works
like a charm, electric, pretty easy to clean, hard to find as Krups may
have discontinued it but still around on ebay and so forth. It stars in
its own video on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAi4n3lxgsY
and here it is posing for a pictu
http://www.electrobest.com/krupophanelc.html
Highly recommended by me.

pavane

On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:22:49 -0400, "pavane"
> wrote:

>
>"The Cook" > wrote in message
.. .
>| On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:20:18 -0400, "James Silverton"
>| > wrote:
>|
>| >Hello All!
>| >
>| >I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major nuisance. After
>| >a messy accident with the rim of a regularly opened can, I bought an OXO
>| >side cutter. It does a good job and no more cuts but I think the take-up
>| >or edge catching method could be improved, as could the built-in pliers
>| >to pull off the lid. Does anyone else use a side cutter? I think the
>| >manufacturer should think of making the mechanism more visible instead
>| >of having to use it blindly.
>|
>| I have a electric Krups side opener that I have had for close to 10
>| years and it still works fine. I even bought a second one for backup.
>| Looks like that was a good move because I don't see the one I have on
>| Amazon. Haven't done an exhaustive search.
>
>Yes, I have had one for years. Called the Krups Open Master, works
>like a charm, electric, pretty easy to clean, hard to find as Krups may
>have discontinued it but still around on ebay and so forth. It stars in
>its own video on youtube:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAi4n3lxgsY
>and here it is posing for a pictu
>http://www.electrobest.com/krupophanelc.html
>Highly recommended by me.
>
>pavane
>


That's mine. I love it. Glad I bought another one early on.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:20:18 -0400, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

>Hello All!
>
>I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major nuisance. After
>a messy accident with the rim of a regularly opened can, I bought an OXO
>side cutter. It does a good job and no more cuts but I think the take-up
>or edge catching method could be improved, as could the built-in pliers
>to pull off the lid. Does anyone else use a side cutter? I think the
>manufacturer should think of making the mechanism more visible instead
>of having to use it blindly.

If it's really a concern, and I have no reason to believe it's not,
you might investigate one of those little AA battery operated
One-Touch type openers. Price runs between 10 and 20 USD.
I have the One-Touch, bought for use when I have arthritis flareups in
my wrists. It works OK.

Advantages: Side-cutter, and captures the detached lid for removal.
You don't have to touch the lid, just lift the tool and the lid (no
sharp edge) comes with it. Detach from the tool and toss.

Now you can pick up the can easily without getting near the cut edge
and dump the contents. OK, except for some beans, which are glutinous
and need to be scraped out with a spatula.

Cheap. Readily available at Kitchen Collection, Walgreens, HEB,
anybody who has "as seen on TV" stuff.

Disadvantages: Slow, may not work on big institutional size cans (I've
not tried this). Seems to work OK on most consumer level canned goods.

Not easy to clean. If you're *really* fastidious, you won't like it.

Needs batteries, but works OK on Lithium cells and NiMeHydride
rechargeable AA cells, but fastest on alkalines.

Not repairable.

In Sum: My recommendation would be to get one of these puppies, and
see if it meets your needs. Also, I would invest in a box of popup
vinyl or latex kitchen gloves, and wear them when opening cans. A
little extra protection and also keeps your hands clean. You might get
in the habit, like I did, for keeping my hands clean when dealing with
chicken. It easier than constantly washing and saves water. Also handy
when opening sardine cans, which *are* a freaking hazard! You could
cut somebody's throat with those peel-off lids.

HTH, guy.

Alex

On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:20:18 -0400, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

>Hello All!
>
>I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major nuisance.
You have my sympathy. My husband has to take blood thinners and is NOT
a happy camper about it.
>
>After a messy accident with the rim of a regularly opened can, I bought an OXO
>side cutter. It does a good job and no more cuts but I think the take-up
>or edge catching method could be improved,
>Does anyone else use a side cutter? I think the manufacturer should think of making the mechanism
>more visible instead of having to use it blindly.

On the top of the can opener is a curved line. Looking down on the top
of the opener, line that curve up with the curve of the can and you'll
get it everytime.

Here's a photo to show you what I mean.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/koko181...7624820876656/
Click on the picture for a larger view.
or
http://tinyurl.com/29evu2e

>as could the built-in pliers to pull off the lid.
I love that feature. Admitting how big of a dork I am, I didn't even
know it was there for years.

koko




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On 8/27/2010 4:37 PM, wrote:
> On the top of the can opener is a curved line. Looking down on the top
> of the opener, line that curve up with the curve of the can and you'll
> get it everytime.
>
> Here's a photo to show you what I mean.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/koko181...7624820876656/
> Click on the picture for a larger view.
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/29evu2e

They have a video of your can opener. I like it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1VlfWvYeD8

Becca

Ema wrote on Sat, 28 Aug 2010 12:10:24 -0500:

> On 8/27/2010 4:37 PM, wrote:
>> On the top of the can opener is a curved line. Looking down
>> on the top of the opener, line that curve up with the curve
>> of the can and you'll get it everytime.
>>
>> Here's a photo to show you what I mean.
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/koko181...7624820876656/
>> Click on the picture for a larger view.
>> or
>> http://tinyurl.com/29evu2e

> They have a video of your can opener. I like it.

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1VlfWvYeD8

Well, I'll be darned! Thank you! I wonder if the picture taker was
left-handed but I get the idea!

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On 8/28/2010 12:26 PM, James Silverton wrote:
> Ema wrote on Sat, 28 Aug 2010 12:10:24 -0500:
>
>> They have a video of your can opener. I like it.
>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1VlfWvYeD8
>
> Well, I'll be darned! Thank you! I wonder if the picture taker was
> left-handed but I get the idea!
>

When my can opener bites the dust, I might get one of these. I like the
way it works.

Becca

James Silverton > wrote:

> I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major nuisance. After
> a messy accident with the rim of a regularly opened can, I bought an OXO
> side cutter. It does a good job and no more cuts but I think the take-up
> or edge catching method could be improved, as could the built-in pliers
> to pull off the lid. Does anyone else use a side cutter? I think the
> manufacturer should think of making the mechanism more visible instead
> of having to use it blindly.

I use a Rösle tin opener which leaves no shrap edges either of the lid
or the tin. One of their models features built-in pliers.

This is the model I use:
<http://www.roesle.de/epages/Roesle.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Roesle/Products/xcs_3549/SubProducts/12751>

This one has built-in pliers:
<http://www.roesle.de/epages/Roesle.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Roesle/Products/xcs_3782/SubProducts/12757>

Victor

On 8/27/2010 4:20 AM, James Silverton wrote:
> Hello All!
>
> I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major nuisance. After
> a messy accident with the rim of a regularly opened can, I bought an OXO
> side cutter. It does a good job and no more cuts but I think the take-up
> or edge catching method could be improved, as could the built-in pliers
> to pull off the lid. Does anyone else use a side cutter? I think the
> manufacturer should think of making the mechanism more visible instead
> of having to use it blindly.
>
>

I've been using those for decades. You can reuse the cans after you've
emptied them out. The lids snap back on! Secret Stash! I've used them as
housings for electronics projects. Free is a lot cheaper than anything
you can find at Radio Shack.

The last one I bought is in the shape of a whale. My wife hates that
thing for sure but it's probably my most favorite kitchen tool. To open
a can, you turn the water spout coming out the the top of his head. My
suggestion is that you learn to use your mind's eye to visualize the
location of the tiny jaws - use the force, Luke. It's a neat trick that
you can learn to do.

I've cut my fingers with the can edges several times. I have a
reoccurring memory of getting my hand stuck in a can with the lid
partially cut off. I was probably 3 years old or so and it's one of my
earliest memories. Mostly, I remember being scared shitless. About a
decade later, I really cut my hand while trying to open a can of orange
juice. I still can't figure out how I managed to cut all of my fingers
and my thumb. The blood flowed freely that day...

" wrote:
>
>I've been using those for decades. You can reuse the cans after you've
>emptied them out.

Opened cans should not be used for food storage regardless which type
of opener is used.

On 8/27/2010 4:49 PM, brooklyn1 wrote:
> " wrote:
>>
>> I've been using those for decades. You can reuse the cans after you've
>> emptied them out.
>
> Opened cans should not be used for food storage regardless which type
> of opener is used.

This is a good point and probably the reason I said to empty out the
cans before reusing. It never occurred to me to use the cans for food
storage.

You must be a guy concerned with food safety. This type of can opener is
great in that respect because it doesn't allow the top of the lid or the
cutter to make contact with or be submerged into the food product. Yuck!

There is another type of side cutter that cuts below the lid which
creates a fairly sharp can edge - this should not be confused with the
cutters that cut through the middle of the lid and creates a top lid
that can be snapped back on. A good thing about those is that you can
reuse the can's sharp edge as a biscuit cutter or as makeshift kitchen
implement of self-defense - after you've emptied them out. :-)

"James Silverton" > wrote in
:

> Hello All!
>
> I'm taking blood thinners and small cuts can be a major
> nuisance. After a messy accident with the rim of a regularly
> opened can, I bought an OXO side cutter. It does a good job
> and no more cuts but I think the take-up or edge catching
> method could be improved, as could the built-in pliers to pull
> off the lid. Does anyone else use a side cutter? I think the
> manufacturer should think of making the mechanism more visible
> instead of having to use it blindly.

I have a few and it seems like they 'wear out' or maybe I should
way they lose their grip after awhile. I do like them but...
I wish they would stay more solid/balanced. I have since gone back
to my generic hand turning, top lid cutting can opener.