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On May 4, 9:18*pm, "Dimitri" > wrote:
> "Steve B" > wrote in message > > ... > > >I am asked all the time to make the gravy, and that includes the exclusion > >of my 87 year old MIL. *She does make fine gravy, tho. > > > Without giving away secrets, what is your take on making the best gravy? > > > Steve > > Steve; > > I want you to waste the following: > > Flour > Corn starch > Butter > Chicken stock > Beef stock > Soy sauce > Poultry seasoning > > Step 1 > Make a roux > > 1 T flour > 1 T *Butter > When bubbling like wet sand add 1 t poultry seasoning. > The add 1 Cup chicken stock > > Bingo poultry gravy. > > Next do the same using beef stock, and soy > > You've made the foundation for beef gravy > > Next mix a teaspoon of cornstarch & chicken or beef stock - heat & taste. > > Now do the same with Flour & stock & the soy or poultry seasoning. *Remember > the flour & stock slurry needs to be simmered for a long time to lose it's > starchy taste. > > Also notice the degree or clarity in the corn starch on the opaqueness' of > the flour slurry. > > These techniques are the basics to which you can the deglazed fond from a > roasting pan or fry pan. > > Want to change character? *add a little Dijon mustard. or some > Worcestershire sauce. And ruin the gravy. Of course, the soy sauce already pretty much did that. > > It's up to you. > > I did the same with my SIL who for 40 years of marriage had been buying > canned gravy or powdered gravy mix > > Enjoy > > This is step 1. My SIL served jarred crap that had the word, "gravy," on the label on Christmas Day one year. She also served this crap that was kind of like an ovoid sphere that came in a plastic wrapper that said, "turkey," on it. Back when I smoked I could tolerate such things. Not anymore. In her defense, the first ingredient on the oval thing *was* turkey. > > Dimitri --Bryan |
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� wrote:
> On May 4, 9:18�pm, "Dimitri" > wrote: >> "Steve B" > wrote in message >> Want to change character? �add a little Dijon mustard. or some >> Worcestershire sauce. > > And ruin the gravy. Of course, the soy sauce already pretty much did > that. I have to agree, soy sauce has a place in various dishes but i have never found it that great an addition to a typical American "gravy". -- JL |
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Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
> � wrote: >> On May 4, 9:18�pm, "Dimitri" > wrote: >>> "Steve B" > wrote in message > >>> Want to change character? �add a little Dijon mustard. or some >>> Worcestershire sauce. >> >> And ruin the gravy. Of course, the soy sauce already pretty much did >> that. > > I have to agree, soy sauce has a place in various dishes but i have > never found it that great an addition to a typical American "gravy". > -- > JL Gawd no. No Soy sauce. A bug YES to Wochestshire sauce. |
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On 2010-05-05 07:48:25 -0700, Dave Smith said:
>>>> Want to change character? add a little Dijon mustard. or some >>>> Worcestershire sauce. >>> >>> And ruin the gravy. Of course, the soy sauce already pretty much did >>> that. >> >> I have to agree, soy sauce has a place in various dishes but i have >> never found it that great an addition to a typical American "gravy". > > Gawd no. No Soy sauce. A bug YES to Wochestshire sauce. Y'all quit kidding around! Everybody knows that gravy can only be done ONE way! -- If you limit your actions in life to things that nobody can possibly find fault with, you will not do much. -- Lewis Carroll |
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gtr wrote on Wed, 5 May 2010 10:34:59 -0700:
>>>>> Want to change character? add a little Dijon mustard. or >>>>> some Worcestershire sauce. >>>> >>>> And ruin the gravy. Of course, the soy sauce already >>>> pretty much did that. >>> >>> I have to agree, soy sauce has a place in various dishes but >>> i have never found it that great an addition to a typical >>> American "gravy". >> >> Gawd no. No Soy sauce. A bug YES to Wochestshire sauce. >Y'all quit kidding around! Everybody knows that gravy can only be done >ONE way! It might be well not to forget that "gravy" is used for many sauces in Indian English usage. Some Westerners might well call Indian "gravy" "curry". -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |