I don't agree with all that liquid and I use a zig zag style masher
instead of a ricer, but the information about which type of potato to
use and how to cook them is spot on.

http://tinyurl.com/ylzfm8t
or 145 characters worth
http://www.chow.com/videos/show/all/...ith-margo-true

They have a video on how to make matzo balls too.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

sf wrote:
> I don't agree with all that liquid and I use a zig zag style masher
> instead of a ricer, but the information about which type of potato to
> use and how to cook them is spot on.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ylzfm8t
> or 145 characters worth
> http://www.chow.com/videos/show/all/...ith-margo-true
>
> They have a video on how to make matzo balls too.
>

Pass the Gnocchi?

--

Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.
Let the games begin!
http://fredeeky.typepad.com/fredeeky.../sf_anthem.mp3

On Sun 20 Dec 2009 12:57:49p, Wayne Boatwright wrote in
rec.food.cooking
85.247>:

> On Sun 20 Dec 2009 07:05:19a, sf told us...
>
>>
>> I don't agree with all that liquid and I use a zig zag style
>> masher instead of a ricer, but the information about which type
>> of potato to use and how to cook them is spot on.
>
I can't believe all the liquid she used. I'm probably wrong but I
can't imagine all of that being soaked up by the potatoes. Even when
she garnished the dish, the tators were way too runny for my taste.
The rest of the info was helpful, though, sf, thanks.

> If you're referring to the "recipe" I posted, sf, I start out by
> adding a 1/4 cup of liquid to slightly over 3 lbs. of potatoes.
> I only add more if they seem too stiff. I don't consider that
> excessive.
>

Michael, I do mine like yours but I do use my KA on low speed. Works
for me.

"Cheryl" > wrote
> I can't believe all the liquid she used. I'm probably wrong but I
> can't imagine all of that being soaked up by the potatoes. Even when
> she garnished the dish, the tators

Ahem. I think you mean "taters."

On Dec 20, 2:36*pm, "cybercat" > wrote:
> "Cheryl" > wrote
>
> > I can't believe all the liquid she used. I'm probably wrong but I
> > can't imagine all of that being soaked up by the potatoes. *Even when
> > she garnished the dish, the tators
>
> Ahem. I think you mean "taters."

How many hours do you spend on here every day? 15? 20?

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
5.247...
> On Sun 20 Dec 2009 07:05:19a, sf told us...
>
>>
>> I don't agree with all that liquid and I use a zig zag style masher
>> instead of a ricer, but the information about which type of potato to
>> use and how to cook them is spot on.
>
> If you're referring to the "recipe" I posted, sf, I start out by adding a
> 1/4 cup of liquid to slightly over 3 lbs. of potatoes. I only add more if
> they seem too stiff. I don't consider that excessive.
>
>> http://tinyurl.com/ylzfm8t
>> or 145 characters worth
>> http://www.chow.com/videos/show/all/...d-potatoes-wit
>> h-margo-true#/show/all/11951/how-to-make-mashed-potatoes-with-margo-true
>>
>> They have a video on how to make matzo balls too.

I think she was referring to the video. The woman on the video must use
half a gallon of milk to the pot of potatoes. They look like really thick
soup instead of mashed.

I like my mashed to have some substance to them and I don't mind a few lumps
either.

Ms P

On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:57:49 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>If you're referring to the "recipe" I posted, sf, I start out by adding a
>1/4 cup of liquid to slightly over 3 lbs. of potatoes. I only add more if
>they seem too stiff. I don't consider that excessive.

Guess you didn't follow the link, JL... they call that series of
videos "You're doing it wrong".

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Cheryl > wrote:

> X-Face:
> $dO4505L-bM3\Iz"(V=y.bL/75{5ys3:B[-aPBQvs*Z%fdBqFhvc85hmZN4j1kwRzwvY*R4n
> vQ/#/+kWXH((aXWh\%mvG1V()Z0k:NwZAIu\S0d1%,nv`^

I guess I have to be flattered that you decided to steal my cat, of all
the cats out there. I have to say that my Diabolical Cat(TM) was
created by myself for my own use only.

There has always been an unwritten law that one uses one's own x-faces,
not anything created by someone else. I have always used my own, with
the sole exception of the (anonymously-created) American flag displayed
on extraordinary occasions. One also does not steal anything from Ace's
admirable collection of x-faces at <http://www.xs4all.nl/~ace/X-Faces/>.
This cat of mine is there, too, properly attributed to my old address.

If you are desperate for an x-face of your own and cannot figure out how
to create it, e-mail me and I might just spare you one of my other cats,
never before publicly used or otherwise displayed.

Victor

On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:44:47 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>It wasn't JL, sf, it was me. I didn't look at the link until after I
>replied. What she made looked like soup.

Yes, that was what I thought too! You can't cook potatoes that long
and expect them to soak up so much liquid. I add very little liquid
to mine, just enough to make them light and fluffy.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

projectile vomit chick wrote:

> On Dec 20, 2:36 pm, "cybercat" > wrote:
>> "Cheryl" > wrote
>>
>>> I can't believe all the liquid she used. I'm probably wrong but I
>>> can't imagine all of that being soaked up by the potatoes. Even when
>>> she garnished the dish, the tators
>>
>> Ahem. I think you mean "taters."
>
> How many hours do you spend on here every day? 15? 20?


You are confusing the number of "hours" with the cybertwot's "IQ" points...

:-)


--
Best
Greg

Cheryl wrote:
> On Sun 20 Dec 2009 05:53:52p, Victor Sack wrote in
> rec.food.cooking
> >:
>
>> Cheryl > wrote:
>>
>>> X-Face:
>>> $dO4505L-bM3\Iz"(V=y.bL/75{5ys3:B[-aPBQvs*Z%fdBqFhvc85hmZN4j1kwR
>>> zwvY*R4n vQ/#/+kWXH((aXWh\%mvG1V()Z0k:NwZAIu\S0d1%,nv`^
>>
>> I guess I have to be flattered that you decided to steal my cat,
>> of all the cats out there. I have to say that my Diabolical
>> Cat(TM) was created by myself for my own use only.
>>
>> There has always been an unwritten law that one uses one's own
>> x-faces, not anything created by someone else. I have always
>> used my own, with the sole exception of the
>> (anonymously-created) American flag displayed on extraordinary
>> occasions. One also does not steal anything from Ace's
>> admirable collection of x-faces at
>> <http://www.xs4all.nl/~ace/X-Faces/>. This cat of mine is there,
>> too, properly attributed to my old address.
>>
>> If you are desperate for an x-face of your own and cannot figure
>> out how to create it, e-mail me and I might just spare you one
>> of my other cats, never before publicly used or otherwise
>> displayed.
>>
>
> Excuse me?!?!? I have been using this Xface for years. I coded it
> from a picture myself. Maybe you stole mine?

This is Victor Sack you are asking??? Ignore him, Cheryl!

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun 20 Dec 2009 05:53:52p, Victor Sack wrote in
> rec.food.cooking
> >:
>
>> Cheryl > wrote:
>>
>>> X-Face:
>>> $dO4505L-bM3\Iz"(V=y.bL/75{5ys3:B[-aPBQvs*Z%fdBqFhvc85hmZN4j1kwR
>>> zwvY*R4n vQ/#/+kWXH((aXWh\%mvG1V()Z0k:NwZAIu\S0d1%,nv`^
>>
>> I guess I have to be flattered that you decided to steal my cat,
>> of all the cats out there. I have to say that my Diabolical
>> Cat(TM) was created by myself for my own use only.
>>
>> There has always been an unwritten law that one uses one's own
>> x-faces, not anything created by someone else. I have always
>> used my own, with the sole exception of the
>> (anonymously-created) American flag displayed on extraordinary
>> occasions. One also does not steal anything from Ace's
>> admirable collection of x-faces at
>> <http://www.xs4all.nl/~ace/X-Faces/>. This cat of mine is there,
>> too, properly attributed to my old address.
>>
>> If you are desperate for an x-face of your own and cannot figure
>> out how to create it, e-mail me and I might just spare you one
>> of my other cats, never before publicly used or otherwise
>> displayed.
>>
>
> Excuse me?!?!? I have been using this Xface for years. I coded it
> from a picture myself. Maybe you stole mine?

I can testify to this.

Cheryl > wrote:

> On Sun 20 Dec 2009 05:53:52p, Victor Sack wrote:
>
> > Cheryl > wrote:
> >
> >> X-Face:
> >> $dO4505L-bM3\Iz"(V=y.bL/75{5ys3:B[-aPBQvs*Z%fdBqFhvc85hmZN4j1kwR
> >> zwvY*R4n vQ/#/+kWXH((aXWh\%mvG1V()Z0k:NwZAIu\S0d1%,nv`^
> >
> > I guess I have to be flattered that you decided to steal my cat,
> > of all the cats out there. I have to say that my Diabolical
> > Cat(TM) was created by myself for my own use only.
> >
> > There has always been an unwritten law that one uses one's own
> > x-faces, not anything created by someone else. I have always
> > used my own, with the sole exception of the
> > (anonymously-created) American flag displayed on extraordinary
> > occasions. One also does not steal anything from Ace's
> > admirable collection of x-faces at
> > <http://www.xs4all.nl/~ace/X-Faces/>. This cat of mine is there,
> > too, properly attributed to my old address.
> >
> > If you are desperate for an x-face of your own and cannot figure
> > out how to create it, e-mail me and I might just spare you one
> > of my other cats, never before publicly used or otherwise
> > displayed.
>
> Excuse me?!?!?

No, I won't.

> I have been using this Xface for years. I coded it
> from a picture myself. Maybe you stole mine?

What a bold-faced lie! I've been using this x-face for more the twelve
years. I can easily prove it, too. Here is my first post with this
x-face:

<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.comm/msg/d58c6b65238dbac6?dmode=source>

And here is my first post on rfc with this x-face:

<http://groups.google.com/group/rec.food.cooking/msg/dda25a5d59b8c10e?dmode=source>

Where are yours? Go ahead and post a link to an earlier post of yours
using this x-face. You wouldn't even know which newsreaders were capable
of displaying x-faces in 1997.

Victor

On Mon 21 Dec 2009 05:50:33p, Victor Sack wrote in
rec.food.cooking
>:

> Cheryl > wrote:
>
>> On Sun 20 Dec 2009 05:53:52p, Victor Sack wrote:
>>
>> > Cheryl > wrote:
>> >
>> >> X-Face:
>> >> $dO4505L-bM3\Iz"(V=y.bL/75{5ys3:B[-aPBQvs*Z%fdBqFhvc85hmZN4j1
>> >> kwR zwvY*R4n vQ/#/+kWXH((aXWh\%mvG1V()Z0k:NwZAIu\S0d1%,nv`^
>> >
>> > I guess I have to be flattered that you decided to steal my
>> > cat, of all the cats out there. I have to say that my
>> > Diabolical Cat(TM) was created by myself for my own use only.
>> >
>> > There has always been an unwritten law that one uses one's
>> > own x-faces, not anything created by someone else. I have
>> > always used my own, with the sole exception of the
>> > (anonymously-created) American flag displayed on
>> > extraordinary occasions. One also does not steal anything
>> > from Ace's admirable collection of x-faces at
>> > <http://www.xs4all.nl/~ace/X-Faces/>. This cat of mine is
>> > there, too, properly attributed to my old address.
>> >
>> > If you are desperate for an x-face of your own and cannot
>> > figure out how to create it, e-mail me and I might just spare
>> > you one of my other cats, never before publicly used or
>> > otherwise displayed.
>>
>> Excuse me?!?!?
>
> No, I won't.

I think someone out there needs to say it. "CAT FIGHT!!!!"

Cheryl > wrote:

> I think someone out there needs to say it. "CAT FIGHT!!!!"

You've just been proved to be a liar. I've been using my self-made cat
x-face since 1997 and can show it. You cannot. Do you lie about other
things, too?

Victor

Cheryl > wrote:

> On Mon 21 Dec 2009 05:59:55p, Victor Sack wrote:
> >
> > You've just been proved to be a liar. I've been using my
> > self-made cat x-face since 1997 and can show it. You cannot.
> > Do you lie about other things, too?
>
> No, I have just proved that I won't play with you. Carry on.
> ^-.-^

I won't dream of playing with you. I am just calling you what you are -
a bold-faced liar.

Victor

Cheryl > wrote:

> On Mon 21 Dec 2009 06:22:29p, Victor Sack wrote:
>
> > Cheryl > wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon 21 Dec 2009 05:59:55p, Victor Sack wrote:
> >> >
> >> > You've just been proved to be a liar. I've been using my
> >> > self-made cat x-face since 1997 and can show it. You cannot.
> >> > Do you lie about other things, too?
> >>
> >> No, I have just proved that I won't play with you. Carry on.
> >> ^-.-^
> >
> > I won't dream of playing with you. I am just calling you what
> > you are - a bold-faced liar.
>
> Get over yourself. Not a single thing I wrote was a lie.

I have just demonstrated that the following you wrote upthread was a
bold-faced lie:

> I have been using this Xface for years. I coded it
> from a picture myself. Maybe you stole mine?

I have been using this x-face, which I made myself, since 1997 - and I
have proved it. You likely didn't even know of Usenet existence, let
alone of x-faces, in 1997. You cannot show me any earlier postings of
yours with this x-face because none exist. You simply lied.

This is fun, in a morbid way!

Victor

"Victor Sack" > wrote in message
.. .
> Cheryl > wrote:
>
>> On Mon 21 Dec 2009 06:22:29p, Victor Sack wrote:
>>
>> > Cheryl > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon 21 Dec 2009 05:59:55p, Victor Sack wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > You've just been proved to be a liar. I've been using my
>> >> > self-made cat x-face since 1997 and can show it. You cannot.
>> >> > Do you lie about other things, too?
>> >>
>> >> No, I have just proved that I won't play with you. Carry on.
>> >> ^-.-^
>> >
>> > I won't dream of playing with you. I am just calling you what
>> > you are - a bold-faced liar.
>>
>> Get over yourself. Not a single thing I wrote was a lie.
>
> I have just demonstrated that the following you wrote upthread was a
> bold-faced lie:
>
>> I have been using this Xface for years. I coded it
>> from a picture myself. Maybe you stole mine?
>
> I have been using this x-face, which I made myself, since 1997 - and I
> have proved it. You likely didn't even know of Usenet existence, let
> alone of x-faces, in 1997. You cannot show me any earlier postings of
> yours with this x-face because none exist. You simply lied.
>
> This is fun, in a morbid way!
>

She didn't and you are an idiot.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon 21 Dec 2009 04:28:54p, Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking
> >:
>
>> Cheryl wrote:
>>> On Sun 20 Dec 2009 05:53:52p, Victor Sack wrote in
>>> rec.food.cooking
>>> >:
>>>
>>>> Cheryl > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> X-Face:
>>>>> $dO4505L-bM3\Iz"(V=y.bL/75{5ys3:B[-aPBQvs*Z%fdBqFhvc85hmZN4j1k
>>>>> wR zwvY*R4n vQ/#/+kWXH((aXWh\%mvG1V()Z0k:NwZAIu\S0d1%,nv`^
>>>>
>>>> I guess I have to be flattered that you decided to steal my
>>>> cat, of all the cats out there. I have to say that my
>>>> Diabolical Cat(TM) was created by myself for my own use only.
>>>>
>>>> There has always been an unwritten law that one uses one's own
>>>> x-faces, not anything created by someone else. I have always
>>>> used my own, with the sole exception of the
>>>> (anonymously-created) American flag displayed on extraordinary
>>>> occasions. One also does not steal anything from Ace's
>>>> admirable collection of x-faces at
>>>> <http://www.xs4all.nl/~ace/X-Faces/>. This cat of mine is
>>>> there, too, properly attributed to my old address.
>>>>
>>>> If you are desperate for an x-face of your own and cannot
>>>> figure out how to create it, e-mail me and I might just spare
>>>> you one of my other cats, never before publicly used or
>>>> otherwise displayed.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Excuse me?!?!? I have been using this Xface for years. I
>>> coded it from a picture myself. Maybe you stole mine?
>>
>> This is Victor Sack you are asking??? Ignore him, Cheryl!
>>
>
> I should have listened to you. What a self-centered arrogant ass.

Yes, he is!

On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:56:36 GMT, Cheryl wrote:

> On Mon 21 Dec 2009 05:50:33p, Victor Sack wrote in
> rec.food.cooking
> >:
>
>> Cheryl > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun 20 Dec 2009 05:53:52p, Victor Sack wrote:
>>>
>>> > Cheryl > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> X-Face:
>>> >> $dO4505L-bM3\Iz"(V=y.bL/75{5ys3:B[-aPBQvs*Z%fdBqFhvc85hmZN4j1
>>> >> kwR zwvY*R4n vQ/#/+kWXH((aXWh\%mvG1V()Z0k:NwZAIu\S0d1%,nv`^
>>> >
>>> > I guess I have to be flattered that you decided to steal my
>>> > cat, of all the cats out there. I have to say that my
>>> > Diabolical Cat(TM) was created by myself for my own use only.
>>> >
>>> > There has always been an unwritten law that one uses one's
>>> > own x-faces, not anything created by someone else. I have
>>> > always used my own, with the sole exception of the
>>> > (anonymously-created) American flag displayed on
>>> > extraordinary occasions. One also does not steal anything
>>> > from Ace's admirable collection of x-faces at
>>> > <http://www.xs4all.nl/~ace/X-Faces/>. This cat of mine is
>>> > there, too, properly attributed to my old address.
>>> >
>>> > If you are desperate for an x-face of your own and cannot
>>> > figure out how to create it, e-mail me and I might just spare
>>> > you one of my other cats, never before publicly used or
>>> > otherwise displayed.
>>>
>>> Excuse me?!?!?
>>
>> No, I won't.
>
> I think someone out there needs to say it. "CAT FIGHT!!!!"

<snort>

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:53:15 +0100, Victor Sack wrote:

>
>> On Mon 21 Dec 2009 06:22:29p, Victor Sack wrote:
>> >>>
>>> I won't dream of playing with you. I am just calling you what
>>> you are - a bold-faced liar.
>>
>
> I have just demonstrated that the following you wrote upthread was a
> bold-faced lie:

um, that would be 'bald-faced.'

blake

blake murphy > wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:53:15 +0100, Victor Sack wrote:
>
> >> On Mon 21 Dec 2009 06:22:29p, Victor Sack wrote:
> >> >>>
> >>> I won't dream of playing with you. I am just calling you what
> >>> you are - a bold-faced liar.
> >
> > I have just demonstrated that the following you wrote upthread was a
> > bold-faced lie:
>
> um, that would be 'bald-faced.'

Maybe... maybe not. Both versions go back to Shakespeare and mean the
same thing. Here is a nice dicussion:
<http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-bal2.htm>. In The OED, 1991
edition, "bold-faced" may mean "impudent", but there is no such meaning
attached to "bald-faced".

In the present case, both meanings, plus "bare-faced", are most
appropriate, as they all indicate an unconcealed, childish attempt to
lie. A whiny girl discovered that a favourite stolen toy does not
belong to her at all and is now crying "I've been using it for years. I
coded it from a picture myself." What a dishonest little immature
creature she is!

Victor

"Victor Sack" > wrote in message
. ..
> In the present case, both meanings, plus "bare-faced", are most
> appropriate, as they all indicate an unconcealed, childish attempt to
> lie. A whiny girl discovered that a favourite stolen toy does not
> belong to her at all and is now crying "I've been using it for years. I
> coded it from a picture myself." What a dishonest little immature
> creature she is!

Give it up, Victor. Bullying her isn't making you look good... believe me.

Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

> On Tue 22 Dec 2009 03:54:59p, Victor Sack told us...
> >
> > In the present case, both meanings, plus "bare-faced", are most
> > appropriate, as they all indicate an unconcealed, childish attempt to
> > lie. A whiny girl discovered that a favourite stolen toy does not
> > belong to her at all and is now crying "I've been using it for years. I
> > coded it from a picture myself." What a dishonest little immature
> > creature she is!
>
> What an old fool you can be! And such a stupid and silly thing to even be
> concerned, much less argue.

The old fool in this case is very obviously you. Whatever is left of
your sclerotic brain cannot figure out that it is *basic honesty* to be
concerned about here, not a fairly unimportant x-face. You obviously
have a problem with honesty but not with dishonesty, or else you would
not come to the "defence" of a proven liar. How many times have *you*
lied today? How about yesterday? Was it on rfc or mostly elsewhere?

Since you can only eat already chewed-up food: This x-face of mine is
of little importance by itself, but fact is - which has been proven - I
created it. Now, someone suddenly starts using it - no great problem in
itself. I state the facts and - in the Christmas spirit, even offer the
"lady" another cat x-face of mine - and what do I get in return? Not
even an acknowledgement but a *bold-faced lie* - right in my face, x- or
otherwise.

> I know you're old, but it's also time you grew
> up!

No you do not. You know nothing about my age or anything about myself
at all, still less about honesty. You are just a superannuated busybody
meddling in other people's affairs.

Oh, I see it now! This all was only to call attention to your own
stolen x-face (not mine, but Ace's, in this case), right? Are you now
going to claim you created it?

Victor

On Wed 23 Dec 2009 05:56:36p, Victor Sack wrote in
rec.food.cooking
>:

Now, someone suddenly starts using
> it -

I really don't have time to google my own posts, but here's one from
2005.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.p...av/msg/0092923
086e08ecf?hl=en&dmode=source

On Wed 23 Dec 2009 05:56:36p, Victor Sack wrote in
rec.food.cooking
>:

Now, someone suddenly starts using
> it -

I really don't have time to google my own posts, but here's one from
2005.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.p...av/msg/0092923
086e08ecf?hl=en&dmode=source

On Wed 23 Dec 2009 05:56:36p, Victor Sack wrote in
rec.food.cooking
>:

Now, someone suddenly starts using
> it -

I really don't have time to google my own posts, but here's one from
2005.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.p...av/msg/0092923
086e08ecf?hl=en&dmode=source

Cheryl > wrote:

> On Wed 23 Dec 2009 05:56:36p, Victor Sack wrote:
>
> > Now, someone suddenly starts using
> > it -
>
> I really don't have time to google my own posts, but here's one from
> 2005.
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.p...av/msg/0092923
> 086e08ecf?hl=en&dmode=source

2005! So, are you are now confirming that you have "stolen" (or
"borrowed", if you prefer) my x-face just recently? By 2005, it had
even been displayed - and properly attributed - on Ace's Web site for at
least three or four years.

I created that x-face in 1997 (!) - and posted the links to prove it.
As I already told you, you likely weren't aware of Usenet, let alone of
x-faces existence in 1997. I know you cannot tell me just *how* you
supposedly "created" that x-face, nor name a newsreader which could
display it in 1997. When did you start to post on Usenet at all?

This Diabolical Cat (TM) was my very first x-face and I remember
everything about how I made it and what exactly I used to make it - I
spent hours tweaking it, since I had no experience with x-faces at all.
I still have dozens of versions. I have made many more x-faces since,
some much better-looking, technically, but this was my first one and is
still my favourite, witnessed by my almost constant use of it for
*twelve* years.

Why do I even bother to mention all of this? Because I know exactly
what I am talking about, but I also realise that people (read *you*) may
perhaps forget where they got something relatively unimportant, like an
x-face. In this case, though, it is obviously not just case of
forgetfulness on your part. An x-face, any x-face, is virtually
impossible to reproduce exactly even by using the same picture, as a
single different pixel will result in a different code. In you case,
even this theoretical possibility is out - because the picture I used
has been tweaked - by myself - about a hundred times - and I never
posted it anywhere.

So, why the lie?

Victor

Cheryl > wrote:

> Besides, Victor, when someone comes full force blazing at you with
> accusations and name-calling, who isn't going to get defensive? No
> one. No one I know.

Why, yes, indeed. I guess it would apply, in part at least, to my
response to your reply to my initial post in this thread, wouldn't it?

Merry Christmas!

Victor

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed 23 Dec 2009 08:27:30p, Victor Sack wrote in
> rec.food.cooking
> > :
>
>> Cheryl > wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed 23 Dec 2009 05:56:36p, Victor Sack wrote:
>>>
>>> > Now, someone suddenly starts using
>>> > it -
>>>
>>> I really don't have time to google my own posts, but here's one
>>> from 2005.
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.p...h+behav/msg/00
>>> 92923 086e08ecf?hl=en&dmode=source
>>
>> 2005! So, are you are now confirming that you have "stolen" (or
>> "borrowed", if you prefer) my x-face just recently? By 2005, it
>> had even been displayed - and properly attributed - on Ace's Web
>> site for at least three or four years.
>>
>> I created that x-face in 1997 (!) - and posted the links to
>> prove it. As I already told you, you likely weren't aware of
>> Usenet, let alone of x-faces existence in 1997. I know you
>> cannot tell me just *how* you supposedly "created" that x-face,
>> nor name a newsreader which could display it in 1997. When did
>> you start to post on Usenet at all?
>>
>> This Diabolical Cat (TM) was my very first x-face and I remember
>> everything about how I made it and what exactly I used to make
>> it - I spent hours tweaking it, since I had no experience with
>> x-faces at all. I still have dozens of versions. I have made
>> many more x-faces since, some much better-looking, technically,
>> but this was my first one and is still my favourite, witnessed
>> by my almost constant use of it for *twelve* years.
>>
>> Why do I even bother to mention all of this? Because I know
>> exactly what I am talking about, but I also realise that people
>> (read *you*) may perhaps forget where they got something
>> relatively unimportant, like an x-face. In this case, though,
>> it is obviously not just case of forgetfulness on your part. An
>> x-face, any x-face, is virtually impossible to reproduce exactly
>> even by using the same picture, as a single different pixel will
>> result in a different code. In you case, even this theoretical
>> possibility is out - because the picture I used has been tweaked
>> - by myself - about a hundred times - and I never posted it
>> anywhere.
>>
>> So, why the lie?
>>
>> Victor
>>
>
> Good God, man. Get a life. When I first discovered that I could do
> x-face headers I surfed clipart sites because no, I'm not a graphic
> artist, and I wanted something that relates to my purrsonality.
> No, now that you have forced me to remember when and where I found
> the image or the x-face, its possible that I got it from some link
> that the x-face image converter advertised (can't remember the name
> now, it's been too long since I actually had time to do that sort
> of thing, plus the cat image served me well, so why change it?). I
> did create many x-faces from clipart which is why I thought I did
> this one, too. I don't read your posts so I never saw your x-face
> in my reader. Who'da thunk some idiot would get his panties in a
> bunch over seeing someone use it and forget where it came from? I
> have much more important things to remember than a stupid image.
> And, no, I'm not going to stop using it. You don't want it used,
> don't let someone post the code. In fact, just to cheese you off,
> if you change yours I might steal it and use it. Go ahead. I
> double dare you. Now, leave me alone before you have a heart
> attack or some other life threatening condition from getting so
> upset.
>

Hear hear!

In article 7>,
Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

> What an old fool you can be! And such a stupid and silly thing to even be
> concerned, much less argue. I know you're old, but it's also time you grew
> up!

Bubba Vic? Old? What exactly are you basing that on? Color me Curious
White as Snow.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller 12/15/2009

In article >,
Cheryl > wrote:

> now, it's been too long since I actually had time to do that sort
> of thing, plus the cat image served me well, so why change it?).

Jeez. Because its creator has explained that it is not yours to use
without his consent?

> I have much more important things to remember than a stupid image.
> And, no, I'm not going to stop using it.

Why not? He's explained that it is his creation. He's explained that
using someone else's x-face creation is a no-no. He pointed you to some
links that would show you how to make your own, help you to make your
own. He offered you a different cat of his own creation. So why would
you deliberately use what you've been asked not to use? Just to be
contentious? Ouch.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller 12/20/2009

> On Wed 23 Dec 2009 09:55:49p, Victor Sack wrote:
>
> > Cheryl > wrote:
> >
> >> Besides, Victor, when someone comes full force blazing at you
> >> with accusations and name-calling, who isn't going to get
> >> defensive? No one. No one I know.
> >
> > Why, yes, indeed. I guess it would apply, in part at least, to
> > my response to your reply to my initial post in this thread,
> > wouldn't it?
> >
> > Merry Christmas!
> >
> And to you. Truce? And I'm sorry if I inadvertantly stole your x-
> face and forgot where it came from. If you accept my apology, can I
> have an original never before used Victor Sack cat x-face?
>
> Merry Christmas!

Sure, any time! I am afraid you might not like my other cat x-faces all
that much, as they are in the "cute" category... How about this one...?

Victor

In article >,
(Victor Sack) wrote:

> > On Wed 23 Dec 2009 09:55:49p, Victor Sack wrote:
> >
> > > Cheryl > wrote:

> > > Merry Christmas!
> > >
> > And to you. Truce? And I'm sorry if I inadvertantly stole your x-
> > face and forgot where it came from. If you accept my apology, can I
> > have an original never before used Victor Sack cat x-face?
> >
> > Merry Christmas!
>
> Sure, any time! I am afraid you might not like my other cat x-faces all
> that much, as they are in the "cute" category... How about this one...?
>
> Victor

I think it's purrrfect, Bubba Vic. "-)
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller 12/15/2009

On Thu 24 Dec 2009 06:40:20p, Victor Sack wrote in
rec.food.cooking
> :

> Sure, any time! I am afraid you might not like my other cat
> x-faces all that much, as they are in the "cute" category...
> How about this one...?

I like that one! I do like the "cute" category, too. )
Thank you!

The reason I liked the skinny black cat is because the year my son
died, I took in a small emaciated black cat that I named Bonnie. She
was a feral that found her way into my trap that I put out to catch,
neuter and release a ton of strays that are in my neighborhood.
Bonnie was just too small to release and so I kept her. She never
seemed to mind that, and never even tries to go out anymore. She's
found her home.

"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> (Victor Sack) wrote:
>
>> > On Wed 23 Dec 2009 09:55:49p, Victor Sack wrote:
>> >
>> > > Cheryl > wrote:
>
>> > > Merry Christmas!
>> > >
>> > And to you. Truce? And I'm sorry if I inadvertantly stole your x-
>> > face and forgot where it came from. If you accept my apology, can I
>> > have an original never before used Victor Sack cat x-face?
>> >
>> > Merry Christmas!
>>
>> Sure, any time! I am afraid you might not like my other cat x-faces all
>> that much, as they are in the "cute" category... How about this one...?
>>
>> Victor
>
> I think it's purrrfect, Bubba Vic. "-)

Why can I not see any of the catfaces? Boo HISS!

In article >,
Cheryl > wrote:

> On Thu 24 Dec 2009 11:42:34p, cybercat wrote in rec.food.cooking
> >:
>
> > Why can I not see any of the catfaces? Boo HISS!
>
> I like this one, but it looks very much like a clip art pic I've
> seen. There is a huge space in the middle of the code, so maybe
> that's why your reader can't interpret it?

Most clients can't read them. cc has Outlook, and it won't read them.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Cheryl > wrote:

> The reason I liked the skinny black cat is because the year my son
> died,

My condolences. There is probably nothing worse than losing a child.

> I took in a small emaciated black cat that I named Bonnie. She
> was a feral that found her way into my trap that I put out to catch,
> neuter and release a ton of strays that are in my neighborhood.
> Bonnie was just too small to release and so I kept her. She never
> seemed to mind that, and never even tries to go out anymore. She's
> found her home.

Here is another skinny cat (not all that "cute" this time...).

Victor

In article >,
"cybercat" > wrote:
>
> Why can I not see any of the catfaces? Boo HISS!

You have an inferior newsreader application.

--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller 12/15/2009

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed 23 Dec 2009 05:56:36p, Victor Sack wrote in

Cheryl, you appear to have hiccups Have you been at that bottle? hmmmm?