I see all the guys weighing in on the aspects of being pregnant and I have
noticed a lack of ladies weighing in on the subject.

I suspect the women here are ROTFMT(their)AO.

The next time the guys are pregnant they can speak with authority on the
need for priority parking places.

;-)


Dimitri

On Apr 1, 9:59*am, "Dimitri" > wrote:
> I see all the guys weighing in on the aspects of being pregnant and I have
> noticed a lack of ladies weighing in on the subject.
>
> I suspect the women here are ROTFMT(their)AO.
>
> The next time the guys are pregnant they can speak with authority on the
> need for priority parking places.
>
> ;-)
>
> Dimitri

You must have missed my comment -I am way not in favor of those
parking places. Here's a replay: Exercise is good - let 'em walk.

N.

"Nancy2" > wrote in message
...
On Apr 1, 9:59 am, "Dimitri" > wrote:
> I see all the guys weighing in on the aspects of being pregnant and I have
> noticed a lack of ladies weighing in on the subject.
>
> I suspect the women here are ROTFMT(their)AO.
>
> The next time the guys are pregnant they can speak with authority on the
> need for priority parking places.
>
> ;-)
>
> Dimitri

You must have missed my comment -I am way not in favor of those
parking places. Here's a replay: Exercise is good - let 'em walk.

N.

No, actually I did see it and it's a valid opinion ergo no comment however
maybe in the latter stages we should change to word walk to waddle.....

:-)


Dimitri

Nancy2 wrote:

> On Apr 1, 9:59Â*am, "Dimitri" > wrote:
>> I see all the guys weighing in on the aspects of being pregnant and I
>> have noticed a lack of ladies weighing in on the subject.
>>
>> I suspect the women here are ROTFMT(their)AO.
>>
>> The next time the guys are pregnant they can speak with authority on
>> the need for priority parking places.
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> Dimitri
>
> You must have missed my comment -I am way not in favor of those
> parking places. Here's a replay: Exercise is good - let 'em walk.
>
> N.

I know *I* missed it (sorry, don't read every post here).

Lemme put it this way... I have no problem walking fair distances when I
am not heavily pregnant,and I will *not* waste 10 minutes (or more)
driving round a parking lot looking for a space as close to the store
entrance as possible, like most men I know - pregnant or not.

However, when I was 8 months pregnant with my second child at age 43 (I
still plead temporary insanity), I sure appreciated those priority
parking places that we have at some stores. Guess you've either never
been pregnant or must be one of those ladies who can drop their babies
in the field while busy bringing in the harvest. Good for you.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

ChattyCathy wrote:

> Nancy2 wrote:
>
>
>>On Apr 1, 9:59 am, "Dimitri" > wrote:
>>
>>>I see all the guys weighing in on the aspects of being pregnant and I
>>>have noticed a lack of ladies weighing in on the subject.
>>>
>>>I suspect the women here are ROTFMT(their)AO.
>>>
>>>The next time the guys are pregnant they can speak with authority on
>>>the need for priority parking places.
>>>
>>>;-)
>>>
>>>Dimitri
>>
>>You must have missed my comment -I am way not in favor of those
>>parking places. Here's a replay: Exercise is good - let 'em walk.
>>
>>N.
>
>
> I know *I* missed it (sorry, don't read every post here).
>
> Lemme put it this way... I have no problem walking fair distances when I
> am not heavily pregnant,and I will *not* waste 10 minutes (or more)
> driving round a parking lot looking for a space as close to the store
> entrance as possible, like most men I know - pregnant or not.
>
> However, when I was 8 months pregnant with my second child at age 43 (I
> still plead temporary insanity), I sure appreciated those priority
> parking places that we have at some stores. Guess you've either never
> been pregnant or must be one of those ladies who can drop their babies
> in the field while busy bringing in the harvest. Good for you.

And then there are those who have to cross their legs and clench to hang
on. And for those not up on recent medical news, even a few weeks less
makes a difference. A huge difference in immediate medical care for the
preemie, and in educational expenses for the child born with sub-optimal
brain development down the road.

Honestly, I'm disgusted with certain posters that I respect in general
for their attitude certain short-term pregnancy-related issues.

A pregnant woman in the final stages of her gestation is experiencing
difficulties and is grateful for a sop offered by a local grocery chain,
yet, you all would prefer she apply for state sanctioned permission to
park in a space designated for someone with a permanent disability.

With my second born, whose date of conception was documented, I
experienced premature contractions, aka braxton hicks, after any sort of
physical exertion after the 32nd week - 8 weeks premature.

I did my very best to avoid all but absolutely necessary exertion. But
I had a three-year-old and sometimes she had needs.

As it was, her brother came a full, documented 14 days early. And there
were issues. We were lucky. We had excellent insurance. He's ok. A
couple weeks earlier and that might not have been the case.

But for those of you who are offended by minor freakin' concessions made
to pregnant women AND are ****ed off about rising health care costs AND
the costs of dealing with disabilities, maybe it's time to shut your
fracking mouths and step up. I don't see you offering to shop and
deliver groceries. I don't see you volunteering to provide respite care
to handicapped infants. I don't see you helping out at long-term care
facilities for the handicapped.

"Kathleen" > wrote in message
...

<snip>

>
> And then there are those who have to cross their legs and clench to hang
> on. And for those not up on recent medical news, even a few weeks less
> makes a difference. A huge difference in immediate medical care for the
> preemie, and in educational expenses for the child born with sub-optimal
> brain development down the road.
>
> Honestly, I'm disgusted with certain posters that I respect in general for
> their attitude certain short-term pregnancy-related issues.
>
> A pregnant woman in the final stages of her gestation is experiencing
> difficulties and is grateful for a sop offered by a local grocery chain,
> yet, you all would prefer she apply for state sanctioned permission to
> park in a space designated for someone with a permanent disability.
>
> With my second born, whose date of conception was documented, I
> experienced premature contractions, aka braxton hicks, after any sort of
> physical exertion after the 32nd week - 8 weeks premature.
>
> I did my very best to avoid all but absolutely necessary exertion. But I
> had a three-year-old and sometimes she had needs.
>
> As it was, her brother came a full, documented 14 days early. And there
> were issues. We were lucky. We had excellent insurance. He's ok. A
> couple weeks earlier and that might not have been the case.
>
> But for those of you who are offended by minor freakin' concessions made
> to pregnant women AND are ****ed off about rising health care costs AND
> the costs of dealing with disabilities, maybe it's time to shut your
> fracking mouths and step up. I don't see you offering to shop and deliver
> groceries. I don't see you volunteering to provide respite care to
> handicapped infants. I don't see you helping out at long-term care
> facilities for the handicapped.

I think you should let us know what you really think.

LOL - sorry I can't help it.

Recently we were down in LA helping # 3 daughter with a severe,
uncontrollable, preeclampsia who was on bed rest. It was a matter of
keeping the baby with mommy for as many days as possible for the health of
the baby.

finally she was put on complete bed rest.

Dimitri

"Dimitri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Kathleen" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> <snip>
>
>>
>> And then there are those who have to cross their legs and clench to hang
>> on. And for those not up on recent medical news, even a few weeks less
>> makes a difference. A huge difference in immediate medical care for the
>> preemie, and in educational expenses for the child born with sub-optimal
>> brain development down the road.
>>
>> Honestly, I'm disgusted with certain posters that I respect in general
>> for their attitude certain short-term pregnancy-related issues.
>>
>> A pregnant woman in the final stages of her gestation is experiencing
>> difficulties and is grateful for a sop offered by a local grocery chain,
>> yet, you all would prefer she apply for state sanctioned permission to
>> park in a space designated for someone with a permanent disability.
>>
>> With my second born, whose date of conception was documented, I
>> experienced premature contractions, aka braxton hicks, after any sort of
>> physical exertion after the 32nd week - 8 weeks premature.
>>
>> I did my very best to avoid all but absolutely necessary exertion. But I
>> had a three-year-old and sometimes she had needs.
>>
>> As it was, her brother came a full, documented 14 days early. And there
>> were issues. We were lucky. We had excellent insurance. He's ok. A
>> couple weeks earlier and that might not have been the case.
>>
>> But for those of you who are offended by minor freakin' concessions made
>> to pregnant women AND are ****ed off about rising health care costs AND
>> the costs of dealing with disabilities, maybe it's time to shut your
>> fracking mouths and step up. I don't see you offering to shop and
>> deliver groceries. I don't see you volunteering to provide respite care
>> to handicapped infants. I don't see you helping out at long-term care
>> facilities for the handicapped.
>
> I think you should let us know what you really think.
>

As far as I'm concerned, you choose to breed, you're on your own.

In article >,
Kathleen > wrote:


> A pregnant woman in the final stages of her gestation is experiencing
> difficulties and is grateful for a sop offered by a local grocery chain,
> yet, you all would prefer she apply for state sanctioned permission to
> park in a space designated for someone with a permanent disability.

Don't really know about your state, but I don't believe they are
restricted to people with PERMANENT disability. If I had a temporary
problem, I would get a temporary handicapped placard. That's what
they're for.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:52:56 -0500, Kathleen wrote:
>
> And then there are those who have to cross their legs and clench to hang
> on. And for those not up on recent medical news, even a few weeks less
> makes a difference. A huge difference in immediate medical care for the
> preemie, and in educational expenses for the child born with sub-optimal
> brain development down the road.
>
> Honestly, I'm disgusted with certain posters that I respect in general
> for their attitude certain short-term pregnancy-related issues.
>
> A pregnant woman in the final stages of her gestation is experiencing
> difficulties and is grateful for a sop offered by a local grocery chain,
> yet, you all would prefer she apply for state sanctioned permission to
> park in a space designated for someone with a permanent disability.
>
> With my second born, whose date of conception was documented, I
> experienced premature contractions, aka braxton hicks, after any sort of
> physical exertion after the 32nd week - 8 weeks premature.
>
> I did my very best to avoid all but absolutely necessary exertion. But
> I had a three-year-old and sometimes she had needs.
>
> As it was, her brother came a full, documented 14 days early. And there
> were issues. We were lucky. We had excellent insurance. He's ok. A
> couple weeks earlier and that might not have been the case.
>
> But for those of you who are offended by minor freakin' concessions made
> to pregnant women AND are ****ed off about rising health care costs AND
> the costs of dealing with disabilities, maybe it's time to shut your
> fracking mouths and step up. I don't see you offering to shop and
> deliver groceries. I don't see you volunteering to provide respite care
> to handicapped infants. I don't see you helping out at long-term care
> facilities for the handicapped.

you must be some kind of communist or something. come over here and sit by
me.

your pal,
blake

>
> Honestly, I'm disgusted with certain posters that I respect in general
> for their attitude certain short-term pregnancy-related issues.

There is such a thing as a TEMPORARY PERMIT. And I have yet to see
any store with all the handicapped spots taken. Maybe that's just
where I live. Still, what do you think our moms did without such
niceties?

I still think that the majority of users of those pregnant-mom spaces
are just using them because they are too "busy" to walk farther.
Sure, I could be wrong, so sue me. It's one of my pet peeves.

N.

> But for those of you who are offended by minor freakin' concessions made
> to pregnant women AND are ****ed off about rising health care costs AND
> the costs of dealing with disabilities, maybe it's time to shut your
> fracking mouths and step up. *I don't see you offering to shop and
> deliver groceries. *I don't see you volunteering to provide respite care
> to handicapped infants. *I don't see you helping out at long-term care
> facilities for the handicapped.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -



Oh, get a clue already.

Not every woman who can't park close to a store delivers a handicapped
baby. How far-fetched can you get?

N.

Michael "Dog3" wrote:

>
> Personally I'm all for them having the ability to park in a disabled
> slot. I'm not for reserving slots for "expectant mothers". I'm probably
> one of the posters you are disgusted with. When a person chooses to
> carry a child to full term I feel they should be ready for the
> responsibilities and possible issues that might arise from that choice.
> If a pregnancy is difficult some type of alternate plan could be worked
> out. I think part of my opinion is based upon the "entitlement"
> attitude some people have regarding procreation and the resulting
> offspring. I'm in no way implying you are/were such a person it's just
> an opinion.


Reproduction is a natural behaviour, and essential to our continued
existence. While is may or may not be seen as voluntary, so can extreme
obesity. There are a lot of people around who are just to fat to move
because they stuff themselves with food on a daily basis. We consider
them to be disabled and offer special parking, so I don't understand the
objection to offering the same to a person who is having physical
problems in relation to their bringing a new life into the world.

On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:17:49 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:

> Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>
>>
>> Personally I'm all for them having the ability to park in a disabled
>> slot. I'm not for reserving slots for "expectant mothers". I'm probably
>> one of the posters you are disgusted with. When a person chooses to
>> carry a child to full term I feel they should be ready for the
>> responsibilities and possible issues that might arise from that choice.
>> If a pregnancy is difficult some type of alternate plan could be worked
>> out. I think part of my opinion is based upon the "entitlement"
>> attitude some people have regarding procreation and the resulting
>> offspring. I'm in no way implying you are/were such a person it's just
>> an opinion.
>
> Reproduction is a natural behaviour, and essential to our continued
> existence. While is may or may not be seen as voluntary, so can extreme
> obesity. There are a lot of people around who are just to fat to move
> because they stuff themselves with food on a daily basis. We consider
> them to be disabled and offer special parking, so I don't understand the
> objection to offering the same to a person who is having physical
> problems in relation to their bringing a new life into the world.

they got fat parking spaces now? i can see a problem with kicking anoretic
women out of them.

your pal,
blake

our continued
> existence. *While is may or may not be seen as voluntary, so can extreme
> obesity. There are a lot of people around who are just to fat to move
> because they stuff themselves with food on a daily basis. We consider


I don't believe obesity by itself will get you a handicapped parking
permit. There has to be some other problem - which may or may not be
related to the obesity.

N. (just splitting hairs)

Michael "Dog3" wrote:

>
> Is it even possible to offer "special" parking to all of the groups of
> people that would like it? I mean, "pregnant parkers", "parents with
> kids", "obese", "really handicapped", "arthritic but not really
> handicapped" etc... It can go on and on. I can see it now... woman
> with 3 small kids on cell phone calling the store from the back of the
> parking lot, "Hi, I'm at the back of the lot because I couldn't find a
> front space for "parents with children" slot. Can you please send the
> shuttle back here to take me and the kids to the door"?

Only in America...

<ducking and running>
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On 02 Apr 2009 12:17:40 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\""
> wrote:

>Kathleen >
: in rec.food.cooking
>
>>
>> And then there are those who have to cross their legs and clench to
>> hang on. And for those not up on recent medical news, even a few
>> weeks less makes a difference. A huge difference in immediate medical
>> care for the preemie, and in educational expenses for the child born
>> with sub-optimal brain development down the road.
>>
>> Honestly, I'm disgusted with certain posters that I respect in general
>> for their attitude certain short-term pregnancy-related issues.
>>
>> A pregnant woman in the final stages of her gestation is experiencing
>> difficulties and is grateful for a sop offered by a local grocery
>> chain, yet, you all would prefer she apply for state sanctioned
>> permission to park in a space designated for someone with a permanent
>> disability.
>
>Personally I'm all for them having the ability to park in a disabled
>slot. I'm not for reserving slots for "expectant mothers". I'm probably
>one of the posters you are disgusted with. When a person chooses to
>carry a child to full term I feel they should be ready for the
>responsibilities and possible issues that might arise from that choice.
>If a pregnancy is difficult some type of alternate plan could be worked
>out. I think part of my opinion is based upon the "entitlement"
>attitude some people have regarding procreation and the resulting
>offspring. I'm in no way implying you are/were such a person it's just
>an opinion.
>
>Michael

Accommodation of a physical disability due to pregnancy is no more an
"entitlement" than accommodation of physical disability due to age,
smoking, sports injury, falling down the stairs dead drunk, or bad
luck with the gene pool.

Boron

"Michael "Dog3"" > wrote in message
...
> Boron Elgar >
> : in rec.food.cooking
>
>> Accommodation of a physical disability due to pregnancy is no more an
>> "entitlement" than accommodation of physical disability due to age,
>> smoking, sports injury, falling down the stairs dead drunk, or bad
>> luck with the gene pool.
>
> B.... b ...bbut, I've never heard of "special" parking for smoking, sports
> injury, falling down the stairs dead drunk, bad luck with the gene pool or
> age. In this thread I have heard of "special" parking for expectant
> mothers. Are you reversing your opinion?
>
> Michael
> --

I think "pregnancy parking" and "family parking" are two separate entities.
I must say, I've only ever seen "pregnant" parking at Babies R Us. Now,
"families with small children" I've seen elsewhere, but not too commonly
around these parts (just one grocery store chain). I don't use it, I'm not
defending it, just acknowledging the reality of why stores do it. I've also
seen special parking at the mall for restaurant take-out, for 30 minutes or
less visits (like the express checkout), pharmacy pick-up only, and yes, for
senior citizens. I could think the special senior citizen parking is
redundant because most of them already have handicapped parking (or could
get it by simply asking their doctor, even if not "handicapped"). Frankly,
I don't think seniors are any more "entitled" to special perks simply by
virtue of having lived longer than anyone else than moms are by virtue of
having pooped out a child. And really, if not within childbearing age, does
it really matter if Babies R Us has special pregnancy parking?? Sounds like
sour grapes to me.

Jinx

In article >,
"Michael \"Dog3\"" > wrote:

> Boron Elgar >
> : in rec.food.cooking
>
> > Accommodation of a physical disability due to pregnancy is no more an
> > "entitlement" than accommodation of physical disability due to age,
> > smoking, sports injury, falling down the stairs dead drunk, or bad
> > luck with the gene pool.
>
> B.... b ...bbut, I've never heard of "special" parking

> > "entitlement" than accommodation of physical disability due to

> smoking, sports
> injury, falling down the stairs dead drunk, bad luck with the gene pool or
> age. In this thread I have heard of "special" parking for expectant
> mothers. Are you reversing your opinion?

Just try and tell us that you didn't understand that.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

"Michael "Dog3"" > wrote in message
...
> Kathleen >
> : in rec.food.cooking
>
>>
>> And then there are those who have to cross their legs and clench to
>> hang on. And for those not up on recent medical news, even a few
>> weeks less makes a difference. A huge difference in immediate medical
>> care for the preemie, and in educational expenses for the child born
>> with sub-optimal brain development down the road.
>>
>> Honestly, I'm disgusted with certain posters that I respect in general
>> for their attitude certain short-term pregnancy-related issues.
>>
>> A pregnant woman in the final stages of her gestation is experiencing
>> difficulties and is grateful for a sop offered by a local grocery
>> chain, yet, you all would prefer she apply for state sanctioned
>> permission to park in a space designated for someone with a permanent
>> disability.
>
> Personally I'm all for them having the ability to park in a disabled
> slot. I'm not for reserving slots for "expectant mothers". I'm probably
> one of the posters you are disgusted with. When a person chooses to
> carry a child to full term I feel they should be ready for the
> responsibilities and possible issues that might arise from that choice.
> If a pregnancy is difficult some type of alternate plan could be worked
> out. I think part of my opinion is based upon the "entitlement"
> attitude some people have regarding procreation and the resulting
> offspring. I'm in no way implying you are/were such a person it's just
> an opinion.
>
> Michael
>
>

Everyone knows I opted out of the whole childbearing thing. But I am
entitled to my opinion. And that is this: My mother gave birth to three
children and it never would have crossed her mind to have a special parking
space set aside for her simply because of that. In fact, when my oldest
brother was born she was *walking* to the grocery store.

I'm not trying to sound harsh but pregnancy isn't a "disability", except in
terms of health insurance. I'm quite sure it's extremely difficult to go
shopping or whatnot in the 8th or 9th month. Given my experience with
government bureaucracy, it would take at least three months to get the damn
tag issued in the first place

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> "Michael "Dog3"" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Kathleen >
>> : in rec.food.cooking
>>
>>>
>>> And then there are those who have to cross their legs and clench to
>>> hang on. And for those not up on recent medical news, even a few
>>> weeks less makes a difference. A huge difference in immediate medical
>>> care for the preemie, and in educational expenses for the child born
>>> with sub-optimal brain development down the road.
>>>
>>> Honestly, I'm disgusted with certain posters that I respect in general
>>> for their attitude certain short-term pregnancy-related issues.
>>>
>>> A pregnant woman in the final stages of her gestation is experiencing
>>> difficulties and is grateful for a sop offered by a local grocery
>>> chain, yet, you all would prefer she apply for state sanctioned
>>> permission to park in a space designated for someone with a permanent
>>> disability.
>>
>> Personally I'm all for them having the ability to park in a disabled
>> slot. I'm not for reserving slots for "expectant mothers". I'm probably
>> one of the posters you are disgusted with. When a person chooses to
>> carry a child to full term I feel they should be ready for the
>> responsibilities and possible issues that might arise from that choice.
>> If a pregnancy is difficult some type of alternate plan could be worked
>> out. I think part of my opinion is based upon the "entitlement"
>> attitude some people have regarding procreation and the resulting
>> offspring. I'm in no way implying you are/were such a person it's just
>> an opinion.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>
> Everyone knows I opted out of the whole childbearing thing. But I am
> entitled to my opinion. And that is this: My mother gave birth to three
> children and it never would have crossed her mind to have a special
> parking space set aside for her simply because of that. In fact, when my
> oldest brother was born she was *walking* to the grocery store.
>
> I'm not trying to sound harsh but pregnancy isn't a "disability", except
> in terms of health insurance. I'm quite sure it's extremely difficult to
> go shopping or whatnot in the 8th or 9th month. Given my experience with
> government bureaucracy, it would take at least three months to get the
> damn tag issued in the first place
>
> Jill

No, it doesn't take three months to get a temporary handicap permit. It
takes one day. Your doctor fills out and signs the form, then you take it
down to the DMV and get your card, at least that's the way it is in MN. In
MN, permanent handicap tags are blue, temporary ones are red. And yes, lots
of women do just fine up to the day they deliver and have no "disability"
because of pregnancy. Now me, my feet and ankles were so swollen from the
fourth month onward that I could only wear ballet slippers and most socks
wouldn't fit beyond my toes. Walking was extremely difficult. But, I did
not get nor seek any special handicap permit nor did I have any expectations
that I deserved special parking.

I think quite a few people in this thread are extrapolating that because
some stores have put up priority parking signs that they are there because
women are demanding or "expecting" them, which is quite false.
Additionally, like I said in another post, although I've seen "small
children" parking, I've only seen "pregnant" parking at the baby store, so I
think a whole lot of people here are getting their undies up in a bundle
about pregnant women and parking for no reason at all. Most likely, the
same people that think they are "entitled" to use the express checkout even
though they have 30 items.

Jinx

On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 18:19:41 +0200, ChattyCathy wrote:

>
> However, when I was 8 months pregnant with my second child at age 43 (I
> still plead temporary insanity), I sure appreciated those priority
> parking places that we have at some stores. Guess you've either never
> been pregnant or must be one of those ladies who can drop their babies
> in the field while busy bringing in the harvest. Good for you.

the triumph of hope over experience? in any case, my hat's off to you.

your pal,
blake

On Apr 1, 11:19*am, ChattyCathy > wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote:
> > On Apr 1, 9:59*am, "Dimitri" > wrote:
> >> I see all the guys weighing in on the aspects of being pregnant and I
> >> have noticed a lack of ladies weighing in on the subject.
>
> >> I suspect the women here are ROTFMT(their)AO.
>
> >> The next time the guys are pregnant they can speak with authority on
> >> the need for priority parking places.
>
> >> ;-)
>
> >> Dimitri
>
> > You must have missed my comment -I am way not in favor of those
> > parking places. *Here's a replay: *Exercise is good - let 'em walk.
>
> > N.
>
> I know *I* missed it (sorry, don't read every post here).
>
> Lemme put it this way... I have no problem walking fair distances when I
> am not heavily pregnant,and I will *not* waste 10 minutes (or more)
> driving round a parking lot looking for a space as close to the store
> entrance as possible, like most men I know - pregnant or not.
>
> However, when I was 8 months pregnant with my second child at age 43 (I
> still plead temporary insanity), I sure appreciated those priority
> parking places that we have at some stores. *Guess you've either never
> been pregnant or must be one of those ladies who can drop their babies
> in the field while busy bringing in the harvest. Good for you.
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I'm neither - I had two kids and there weren't any special parking
places when I was pregnant - in addition, my hubby worked late all the
time in a demanding job, so I was on my own. Sorry I still don't
think the special places are necessary. Any pregnant woman who has so
much trouble that she can't walk to the door of a store needs to apply
for a TEMPORARY handicapped parking permit and deal with it that way.
Temp permits are pretty easy to get with a doctor's letter or
signature.

N.

"Nancy2" > wrote in message
...
On Apr 1, 9:59 am, "Dimitri" > wrote:
> I see all the guys weighing in on the aspects of being pregnant and I have
> noticed a lack of ladies weighing in on the subject.
>
> I suspect the women here are ROTFMT(their)AO.
>
> The next time the guys are pregnant they can speak with authority on the
> need for priority parking places.
>
> ;-)
>
> Dimitri

You must have missed my comment -I am way not in favor of those
parking places. Here's a replay: Exercise is good - let 'em walk.

=========================

I must have missed that thread. But my thoughts are parking spots for those
with small children that are close to the store are a good idea. I hate
seeing mothers trying to coral their kids while walking through a busy
parking lot. Very dangerous to be small and have careless drivers backing
up.


N.

Michael "Dog3" wrote:

> Nancy2 >
> :
> in rec.food.cooking
>
>> On Apr 1, 9:59*am, "Dimitri" > wrote:
>>> I see all the guys weighing in on the aspects of being pregnant and
>>> I hav
>> e
>>> noticed a lack of ladies weighing in on the subject.
>>>
>>> I suspect the women here are ROTFMT(their)AO.
>>>
>>> The next time the guys are pregnant they can speak with authority on
>>> the need for priority parking places.
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> Dimitri
>>
>> You must have missed my comment -I am way not in favor of those
>> parking places. Here's a replay: Exercise is good - let 'em walk.
>
> Couldn't agree more.

Heh. Yet another man who knows what's it like to be 8 months pregnant.
Has there been some sort of medical breakthrough that I've missed?

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> ChattyCathy > news:v32Bl.51365$HF6.33895
> @newsfe08.iad: in rec.food.cooking
>
>
>> Heh. Yet another man who knows what's it like to be 8 months
>> pregnant. Has there been some sort of medical breakthrough that I've
>> missed?
>
> Yep. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Story?id=6244878&page=1

Ugh, it's not that woman who is claiming to be a man even though
all her parts are apparently still functioning fine? She's not a man,
I can't fathom why they keep talking about it like it's some kind of
miracle.

nancy

Michael "Dog3" wrote:

> ChattyCathy > news:v32Bl.51365$HF6.33895
> @newsfe08.iad: in rec.food.cooking
>
>
>> Heh. Yet another man who knows what's it like to be 8 months
>> pregnant. Has there been some sort of medical breakthrough that I've
>> missed?
>
> Yep. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Story?id=6244878&page=1
>
> Michael

Sorry can't get to that URL. We've implemented a blocking list for known
pr0n and drug sites (there is a kidlette in this house). Apparently
that site is on the 'drug' list. <g>
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 15:35:06 +0000, Michael "Dog3" wrote:

> ChattyCathy > news:O04Bl.207677$6r1.177522
> @newsfe19.iad: in rec.food.cooking
>
>
>> Sorry can't get to that URL. We've implemented a blocking list for
>> known pr0n and drug sites (there is a kidlette in this house).
>> Apparently that site is on the 'drug' list. <g>
>
> LOL... It's a Barbara Walters interview published by ABC news. Too
> funny!
>
> Michael

OK. Got DH to unblock it for me.

Ah. That couple. Read something about them before... But as far as I am
concerned he was born female - and still has all his 'female parts' needed
to make a baby, even if he is now legally male.

I know a ******* couple that decided to have a baby. They got a good
friend to donate the sperm. The Mom had a gorgeous little girl and her
wife legally adopted the baby to avoid any other legal hassles that may or
may not occur in the future. Nothing wrong with that, IMHO. But gawd,
buying sperm on the Internet? How the heck did they know how healthy (or
not) the donor was? They took a stupid risk there, IMNSHO. Both he and the
baby could have ended up with some awful STD - and who knows if the donor
doesn't carry some other gene that could pass on any number of hereditary
diseases? Surely this couple have some male friend(s) that would have been
willing to donate sperm?

Dunno, takes all kinds, I suppose...

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

In article >,
ChattyCathy > wrote:


> I know a ******* couple that decided to have a baby. They got a good
> friend to donate the sperm. The Mom had a gorgeous little girl and her
> wife legally adopted the baby to avoid any other legal hassles that may or
> may not occur in the future. Nothing wrong with that, IMHO. But gawd,
> buying sperm on the Internet? How the heck did they know how healthy (or
> not) the donor was? They took a stupid risk there, IMNSHO. Both he and the
> baby could have ended up with some awful STD - and who knows if the donor
> doesn't carry some other gene that could pass on any number of hereditary
> diseases? Surely this couple have some male friend(s) that would have been
> willing to donate sperm?

Getting sperm from friends or relatives has some legal problems. Still,
this is not a unique or even remotely new problem. There have been
infertile males for a long time, men with wives, and they both want
children. Any reasonable-sized area has sperm banks. That sperm has
been screened for STDs and genetic defects. Although it is completely
anonymous, various characteristics can be specified. It's not
surprising that a couple of the same race, would want their child to be
of that race also. We have friends who are Jewish. They wanted sperm
from a Jewish donor. They were so happy with the kid that they
requested the same donor for #2.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Dimitri wrote:

> I see all the guys weighing in on the aspects of being pregnant and I
> have noticed a lack of ladies weighing in on the subject.

<hehe nice pun>
>
> I suspect the women here are ROTFMT(their)AO.

Well, I found it rather amusing, yes.
>
> The next time the guys are pregnant they can speak with authority on
> the need for priority parking places.
>
> ;-)
>

Quite so.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Dimitri wrote:
> I see all the guys weighing in on the aspects of being pregnant and I
> have noticed a lack of ladies weighing in on the subject.
>
> I suspect the women here are ROTFMT(their)AO.
>
> The next time the guys are pregnant they can speak with authority on the
> need for priority parking places.


When I dropped off my taxes the other day I asked the girl at the
counter how the riding was going. I know her from the hunter jumper
horse show circuit. She said she was still riding but shouldn't be,
because she is 8 months pregnant. I have known several other active
riders who rode well into their pregnancies. There is no doubt that
some women suffer from a variety of problems, but obviously just being
pregnant does not mean they all need special parking.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> Dimitri wrote:
>> I see all the guys weighing in on the aspects of being pregnant and I
>> have noticed a lack of ladies weighing in on the subject.
>>
>> I suspect the women here are ROTFMT(their)AO.
>>
>> The next time the guys are pregnant they can speak with authority on the
>> need for priority parking places.
>
>
> When I dropped off my taxes the other day I asked the girl at the counter
> how the riding was going. I know her from the hunter jumper horse show
> circuit. She said she was still riding but shouldn't be, because she is 8
> months pregnant. I have known several other active riders who rode well
> into their pregnancies. There is no doubt that some women suffer from a
> variety of problems, but obviously just being pregnant does not mean they
> all need special parking.
>

Rarely is anything absolute. I have a handicap sticker. I don't need to
use it all the time and in fact deliberately park a distance away when
possible as exercise is good for me under certain conditions. Toss up a
wind or a high humidity and all bets are off. Without an available spot
close to the door, I have to give it a miss.

Debbie

"Debbie" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Rarely is anything absolute. I have a handicap sticker. I don't need to
> use it all the time and in fact deliberately park a distance away when
> possible as exercise is good for me under certain conditions. Toss up a
> wind or a high humidity and all bets are off. Without an available spot
> close to the door, I have to give it a miss.
>

You're probably in the minority. I work with someone who has a handicapped
placard in her car and also sometimes drives her mom's car with a placard,
and the placard is just for her mom's handicap. She uses that placard to
park in priority spots both at work and at stores, etc., even without her
mom present. To make it worse, her mom recently passed away, but she's
still using the placard to park in priority spots.

Cheryl wrote:
>
I work with someone who has a
> handicapped placard in her car and also sometimes drives her mom's car
> with a placard, and the placard is just for her mom's handicap. She
> uses that placard to park in priority spots both at work and at stores,
> etc., even without her mom present. To make it worse, her mom recently
> passed away, but she's still using the placard to park in priority spots.


I know one of those folk, too. Her mom has been dead for
years, but she
still gets the first space with the hangtag she got "to take
her mom shopping."

gloria p

Puester wrote:
> Cheryl wrote:
>>
> I work with someone who has a
>> handicapped placard in her car and also sometimes drives her mom's
>> car with a placard, and the placard is just for her mom's handicap.
>> She uses that placard to park in priority spots both at work and at
>> stores, etc., even without her mom present. To make it worse, her
>> mom recently passed away, but she's still using the placard to park
>> in priority spots.

> I know one of those folk, too. Her mom has been dead for
> years, but she
> still gets the first space with the hangtag she got "to take
> her mom shopping."

People like that, soon enough their legs will stop working from lack
of use and they will need those handicapped spots.

nancy

On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:05:09 -0400, "Cheryl"
> wrote:

>
>"Debbie" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>
>> Rarely is anything absolute. I have a handicap sticker. I don't need to
>> use it all the time and in fact deliberately park a distance away when
>> possible as exercise is good for me under certain conditions. Toss up a
>> wind or a high humidity and all bets are off. Without an available spot
>> close to the door, I have to give it a miss.
>>
>
>You're probably in the minority. I work with someone who has a handicapped
>placard in her car and also sometimes drives her mom's car with a placard,
>and the placard is just for her mom's handicap. She uses that placard to
>park in priority spots both at work and at stores, etc., even without her
>mom present. To make it worse, her mom recently passed away, but she's
>still using the placard to park in priority spots.


There is no system on the face of the earth that someone will not make
an attempt to scam. That doesn't mean the system should be
dismantled.

Boron

On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:46:47 -0400, Boron Elgar wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:05:09 -0400, "Cheryl"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Debbie" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>> Rarely is anything absolute. I have a handicap sticker. I don't need to
>>> use it all the time and in fact deliberately park a distance away when
>>> possible as exercise is good for me under certain conditions. Toss up a
>>> wind or a high humidity and all bets are off. Without an available spot
>>> close to the door, I have to give it a miss.
>>>
>>
>>You're probably in the minority. I work with someone who has a handicapped
>>placard in her car and also sometimes drives her mom's car with a placard,
>>and the placard is just for her mom's handicap. She uses that placard to
>>park in priority spots both at work and at stores, etc., even without her
>>mom present. To make it worse, her mom recently passed away, but she's
>>still using the placard to park in priority spots.
>
> There is no system on the face of the earth that someone will not make
> an attempt to scam. That doesn't mean the system should be
> dismantled.
>
> Boron

exactly.

your pal,
blake

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> Dimitri wrote:
>> I see all the guys weighing in on the aspects of being pregnant and I
>> have noticed a lack of ladies weighing in on the subject.
>>
>> I suspect the women here are ROTFMT(their)AO.
>>
>> The next time the guys are pregnant they can speak with authority on the
>> need for priority parking places.
>
>
> When I dropped off my taxes the other day I asked the girl at the counter
> how the riding was going. I know her from the hunter jumper horse show
> circuit. She said she was still riding but shouldn't be, because she is 8
> months pregnant. I have known several other active riders who rode well
> into their pregnancies.

So she's an idiot ergo lets pull the parking spaces from all pregnant
women - good logic.

There is no doubt that
> some women suffer from a variety of problems, but obviously just being
> pregnant does not mean they all need special parking.

see above.

Dimitri

Dimitri wrote:
>
>> When I dropped off my taxes the other day I asked the girl at the
>> counter how the riding was going. I know her from the hunter jumper
>> horse show circuit. She said she was still riding but shouldn't be,
>> because she is 8 months pregnant. I have known several other active
>> riders who rode well into their pregnancies.
>
> So she's an idiot ergo lets pull the parking spaces from all pregnant
> women - good logic.


That is a strange leap in logic.



> There is no doubt that
>> some women suffer from a variety of problems, but obviously just being
>> pregnant does not mean they all need special parking.
>
> see above.


Yes. Do see above..... just because some pregnant women have enough
difficulty to need priority parking does not mean that all need it.

In article >,
Dave Smith > wrote:


> Yes. Do see above..... just because some pregnant women have enough
> difficulty to need priority parking does not mean that all need it.

I suggested that we let the driver determine whether or not they need
one of those "special" spaces. Steve Wertz said that his mom is a
"mother with kids", although they are all over 40 and live out of state,
so she qualifies. So, we all know that my idea is dumb.

:-(

So, does anybody have a better idea, other than just getting rid of them
all because there isn't room on the sign to describe who they are really
intended for?

I just found out my friend J is pregnant. Based on her due date in
November, she just got pregnant. Does she need special parking? No.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>
>> Yes. Do see above..... just because some pregnant women have enough
>> difficulty to need priority parking does not mean that all need it.
>
> I suggested that we let the driver determine whether or not they need
> one of those "special" spaces. Steve Wertz said that his mom is a
> "mother with kids", although they are all over 40 and live out of state,
> so she qualifies. So, we all know that my idea is dumb.
>
> :-(
>
> So, does anybody have a better idea, other than just getting rid of them
> all because there isn't room on the sign to describe who they are really
> intended for?
>
> I just found out my friend J is pregnant. Based on her due date in
> November, she just got pregnant. Does she need special parking? No.
>
> --
> Dan Abel
> Petaluma, California USA
>

After careful consideration I think you're all right on the money - why
don't you go by Kroger then you can eliminate the special needs parking on
the other hand you can convince the chairman of the Board or the CEO that
his Marketing VP who came up with this idea should be fired for stupid
ideas.

Duh....

Dimitri