With Russia spending many -billions- on rearmament and new nuclear weapons, I
think it's time to clean out and make good the bomb shelter so that it's ready
for the inevitable nuclear war. I'm now restocking it with new food.

What would you guys suggest I stock my shelter with? Remember these goods have
to have a real good shelf life and provide enough nutrition for a family of four
for the duration.

--
Burt Morgan

"Burt Morgan" > wrote in message
...
> With Russia spending many -billions- on rearmament and new nuclear
> weapons, I
> think it's time to clean out and make good the bomb shelter so that it's
> ready
> for the inevitable nuclear war. I'm now restocking it with new food.
>
> What would you guys suggest I stock my shelter with? Remember these goods
> have
> to have a real good shelf life and provide enough nutrition for a family
> of four
> for the duration.
>
>
SPAM
Prunes
Crystal Palace (medcinal purposes of course)
Multi Vitamins
Beer
Chocolate
TP and Wet Ones

On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:14:06 GMT, "brooklyn1" > wrote:

>
>"Burt Morgan" > wrote in message
.. .
>> With Russia spending many -billions- on rearmament and new nuclear
>> weapons, I
>> think it's time to clean out and make good the bomb shelter so that it's
>> ready
>> for the inevitable nuclear war. I'm now restocking it with new food.
>>
>> What would you guys suggest I stock my shelter with? Remember these goods
>> have
>> to have a real good shelf life and provide enough nutrition for a family
>> of four
>> for the duration.
>>
>>
>SPAM
>Prunes
>Crystal Palace (medcinal purposes of course)
>Multi Vitamins
>Beer
>Chocolate
>TP and Wet Ones

Crystal Palace??

--
Burt Morgan

On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:22:31 +0000, Burt Morgan
> wrote:

>Crystal Palace??

http://www.barnonedrinks.com/tips/di...mages/2471.jpg


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

In article >,
Burt Morgan > wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:14:06 GMT, "brooklyn1" > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Burt Morgan" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> With Russia spending many -billions- on rearmament and new nuclear
> >> weapons, I
> >> think it's time to clean out and make good the bomb shelter so that it's
> >> ready
> >> for the inevitable nuclear war. I'm now restocking it with new food.
> >>
> >> What would you guys suggest I stock my shelter with? Remember these goods
> >> have
> >> to have a real good shelf life and provide enough nutrition for a family
> >> of four
> >> for the duration.
> >>
> >>
> >SPAM
> >Prunes
> >Crystal Palace (medcinal purposes of course)
> >Multi Vitamins
> >Beer
> >Chocolate
> >TP and Wet Ones
>
> Crystal Palace??

Vodka.

Personally, if I were going to stock alcohol, I'd stock in Crystal
Springs. That's grain alcohol so would go a bit further.
Needs serious diluting before drinking. <g>
--
Peace! Om

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
It's about learning to dance in the rain.
-- Anon.

Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> Burt Morgan > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:14:06 GMT, "brooklyn1" > wrote:
>>
>>> "Burt Morgan" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> With Russia spending many -billions- on rearmament and new nuclear
>>>> weapons, I
>>>> think it's time to clean out and make good the bomb shelter so that it's
>>>> ready
>>>> for the inevitable nuclear war. I'm now restocking it with new food.
>>>>
>>>> What would you guys suggest I stock my shelter with? Remember these goods
>>>> have
>>>> to have a real good shelf life and provide enough nutrition for a family
>>>> of four
>>>> for the duration.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> SPAM
>>> Prunes
>>> Crystal Palace (medcinal purposes of course)
>>> Multi Vitamins
>>> Beer
>>> Chocolate
>>> TP and Wet Ones
>> Crystal Palace??
>
> Vodka.
>
> Personally, if I were going to stock alcohol, I'd stock in Crystal
> Springs. That's grain alcohol so would go a bit further.
> Needs serious diluting before drinking. <g>
>

Grain alcohol is expensive and hard to get in some places.

Vodka is a good choice as it can be used to prepare plant medications
as well as a general solvent and intoxicant.

In article >,
Strabo > wrote:


> >>> Crystal Palace (medcinal purposes of course)

> >> Crystal Palace??
> >
> > Vodka.
> >
> > Personally, if I were going to stock alcohol, I'd stock in Crystal
> > Springs. That's grain alcohol so would go a bit further.
> > Needs serious diluting before drinking. <g>
> >
>
> Grain alcohol is expensive and hard to get in some places.
>
> Vodka is a good choice as it can be used to prepare plant medications
> as well as a general solvent and intoxicant.

Crystal Springs is a brand of cheap vodka sold in the US. Some people
use "grain alcohol" and "vodka" interchangeably. In the US, vodka is
simply diluted grain alcohol. Grain alcohol comes out of the still at
190 proof. Most vodka in the US is 80 proof, although other strengths
are rarely sold.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:07:00 +0000 (UTC), G. Morgan wrote:

> Burt Morgan wrote:
>
>>Crystal Palace??
>
> I had to look it up too.
> http://www.google.com/products?q=Cry...tf-8&scoring=p
>
> Cheap shit.

well, after all, there's a nuclear holocaust going on. we all have to make
some sacrifices.

blake

"brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
>
>>
> SPAM
> Prunes
> Crystal Palace (medcinal purposes of course)

Now I know for sure. Heh. Neighbor o'mine. Kinda.

Van

"Burt Morgan" > wrote in message
...
> With Russia spending many -billions- on rearmament and new nuclear
> weapons, I
> think it's time to clean out and make good the bomb shelter so that it's
> ready
> for the inevitable nuclear war. I'm now restocking it with new food.
>
> What would you guys suggest I stock my shelter with? Remember these goods
> have
> to have a real good shelf life and provide enough nutrition for a family
> of four
> for the duration.
>
> --
> Burt Morgan

"For the duration" after nukes is pretty damned long. Just figure enough
food for the rest of your life and you'll be all set.

On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:49:07 +0000, Burt Morgan
> wrote:

>With Russia spending many -billions- on rearmament and new nuclear weapons, I
>think it's time to clean out and make good the bomb shelter so that it's ready
>for the inevitable nuclear war. I'm now restocking it with new food.
>
>What would you guys suggest I stock my shelter with? Remember these goods have
>to have a real good shelf life and provide enough nutrition for a family of four
>for the duration.

You're still fighting the cold war? Turn on the Tube, do some
reading. North Korea and Pakistan are scarier.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

sf wrote:
>
> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:49:07 +0000, Burt Morgan
> > wrote:
>
> >With Russia spending many -billions- on rearmament and new nuclear weapons, I
> >think it's time to clean out and make good the bomb shelter so that it's ready
> >for the inevitable nuclear war. I'm now restocking it with new food.
> >
> >What would you guys suggest I stock my shelter with? Remember these goods have
> >to have a real good shelf life and provide enough nutrition for a family of four
> >for the duration.
>
> You're still fighting the cold war? Turn on the Tube, do some
> reading. North Korea and Pakistan are scarier.

Forget "cold war", North Korea or Pakistan. Think "collapse of global
civilization" from whatever cause, be it war, disease, etc.

On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:09:46 -0500, Pete C. wrote:

> sf wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:49:07 +0000, Burt Morgan
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>With Russia spending many -billions- on rearmament and new nuclear weapons, I
>>>think it's time to clean out and make good the bomb shelter so that it's ready
>>>for the inevitable nuclear war. I'm now restocking it with new food.
>>>
>>>What would you guys suggest I stock my shelter with? Remember these goods have
>>>to have a real good shelf life and provide enough nutrition for a family of four
>>>for the duration.
>>
>> You're still fighting the cold war? Turn on the Tube, do some
>> reading. North Korea and Pakistan are scarier.
>
> Forget "cold war", North Korea or Pakistan. Think "collapse of global
> civilization" from whatever cause, be it war, disease, etc.

right now, i'd worry more about world-wide depression rather than a few
measly nukes.

your duck-and-cover pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:
>
> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:09:46 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
>
> > sf wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:49:07 +0000, Burt Morgan
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>>With Russia spending many -billions- on rearmament and new nuclear weapons, I
> >>>think it's time to clean out and make good the bomb shelter so that it's ready
> >>>for the inevitable nuclear war. I'm now restocking it with new food.
> >>>
> >>>What would you guys suggest I stock my shelter with? Remember these goods have
> >>>to have a real good shelf life and provide enough nutrition for a family of four
> >>>for the duration.
> >>
> >> You're still fighting the cold war? Turn on the Tube, do some
> >> reading. North Korea and Pakistan are scarier.
> >
> > Forget "cold war", North Korea or Pakistan. Think "collapse of global
> > civilization" from whatever cause, be it war, disease, etc.
>
> right now, i'd worry more about world-wide depression rather than a few
> measly nukes.

Yes, Zimbabwe certainly provides an example of how bad government and
resulting hyper inflation can lead to a total collapse of civilization,
doesn't it? It's certainly possible for the same to happen on a global
scale, particularly with the associates spread of disease as seen in Z.

In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:49:07 +0000, Burt Morgan
> > wrote:
>
> >With Russia spending many -billions- on rearmament and new nuclear weapons,
> >I
> >think it's time to clean out and make good the bomb shelter so that it's
> >ready
> >for the inevitable nuclear war. I'm now restocking it with new food.
> >
> >What would you guys suggest I stock my shelter with? Remember these goods
> >have
> >to have a real good shelf life and provide enough nutrition for a family of
> >four
> >for the duration.
>
> You're still fighting the cold war? Turn on the Tube, do some
> reading. North Korea and Pakistan are scarier.

So is Iran.
--
Peace! Om

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
It's about learning to dance in the rain.
-- Anon.

On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 01:47:52 -0600, Omelet wrote:

> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:49:07 +0000, Burt Morgan
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>With Russia spending many -billions- on rearmament and new nuclear weapons,
>>>I
>>>think it's time to clean out and make good the bomb shelter so that it's
>>>ready
>>>for the inevitable nuclear war. I'm now restocking it with new food.
>>>
>>>What would you guys suggest I stock my shelter with? Remember these goods
>>>have
>>>to have a real good shelf life and provide enough nutrition for a family of
>>>four
>>>for the duration.
>>
>> You're still fighting the cold war? Turn on the Tube, do some
>> reading. North Korea and Pakistan are scarier.
>
> So is Iran.

only if you enjoy being scared. none of those countries are even close to
being able to attack the u.s. with nukes.

but you got a gun to protect yourself, so no worries!

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:
>
> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 01:47:52 -0600, Omelet wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > sf > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:49:07 +0000, Burt Morgan
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>>With Russia spending many -billions- on rearmament and new nuclear weapons,
> >>>I
> >>>think it's time to clean out and make good the bomb shelter so that it's
> >>>ready
> >>>for the inevitable nuclear war. I'm now restocking it with new food.
> >>>
> >>>What would you guys suggest I stock my shelter with? Remember these goods
> >>>have
> >>>to have a real good shelf life and provide enough nutrition for a family of
> >>>four
> >>>for the duration.
> >>
> >> You're still fighting the cold war? Turn on the Tube, do some
> >> reading. North Korea and Pakistan are scarier.
> >
> > So is Iran.
>
> only if you enjoy being scared. none of those countries are even close to
> being able to attack the u.s. with nukes.

Yes, actually they are. N. Korea *may* have the capability to hit
California via a missile (might not be such a bad thing really),
Pakistan and Iran both have missiles that could easily hit US allies,
and all three could certainly deliver nukes to the US mainland via other
means.

On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:22:01 -0500, Pete C. wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 01:47:52 -0600, Omelet wrote:
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> sf > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:49:07 +0000, Burt Morgan
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>With Russia spending many -billions- on rearmament and new nuclear weapons,
>>>>>I
>>>>>think it's time to clean out and make good the bomb shelter so that it's
>>>>>ready
>>>>>for the inevitable nuclear war. I'm now restocking it with new food.
>>>>>
>>>>>What would you guys suggest I stock my shelter with? Remember these goods
>>>>>have
>>>>>to have a real good shelf life and provide enough nutrition for a family of
>>>>>four
>>>>>for the duration.
>>>>
>>>> You're still fighting the cold war? Turn on the Tube, do some
>>>> reading. North Korea and Pakistan are scarier.
>>>
>>> So is Iran.
>>
>> only if you enjoy being scared. none of those countries are even close to
>> being able to attack the u.s. with nukes.
>
> Yes, actually they are. N. Korea *may* have the capability to hit
> California via a missile (might not be such a bad thing really),
> Pakistan and Iran both have missiles that could easily hit US allies,
> and all three could certainly deliver nukes to the US mainland via other
> means.

those countries are all near u.s. allies, so that's not saying much, and in
any case doesn't amount to 'attacking the u.s.' n. korea's missile and
bomb tests have been mostly duds, so far. and 'other means' usually means
some kind of suitcase bomb, which would be delivered to new york, some
other port city, or washington, not exactly places that have the real
estate required for a backyard bomb shelter.

but if you dig ****ing in your pants, knock yourself out.

blake

"Burt Morgan" > wrote in message
...
> With Russia spending many -billions- on rearmament and new nuclear
> weapons, I
> think it's time to clean out and make good the bomb shelter so that it's
> ready
> for the inevitable nuclear war. I'm now restocking it with new food.
>
> What would you guys suggest I stock my shelter with? Remember these goods
> have
> to have a real good shelf life and provide enough nutrition for a family
> of four
> for the duration.
>
> --
> Burt Morgan

MREs and beer.

*******crossposting removed*******

On Mar 21, 12:49*pm, Burt Morgan > wrote:
> With Russia spending many -billions- on rearmament and new nuclear weapons, I
> think it's time to clean out and make good the bomb shelter so that it's ready
> for the inevitable nuclear war. I'm now restocking it with new food.
>
> What would you guys suggest I stock my shelter with? Remember these goods have
> to have a real good shelf life and provide enough nutrition for a family of four
> for the duration.
>
> --
> Burt Morgan

Russia, huh?

I guess you forgot that with a few well placed campaign contributions,
Clinton/Loral developed China's space and nuclear programs.

Sure, Russia and the Stans are still a threat, but we owe China a lot
of money and if we don't pay it back...

Anyway, ask for Observer's opinion on this one. He's a professional
stocker.

On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:55:15 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

>Sure, Russia and the Stans are still a threat, but we owe China a lot
>of money and if we don't pay it back...

I think our dept to China is part of our national defense.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Mar 21, 3:55*pm, sf > wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:55:15 -0700 (PDT),
>
> wrote:
> >Sure, Russia and the Stans are still a threat, but we owe China a lot
> >of money and if we don't pay it back...
>
> I think our dept to China is part of our national defense.

Actually, China is indebted to us for far more than a few cheap
campaign contributions.

On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:05:17 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

>On Mar 21, 3:55*pm, sf > wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:55:15 -0700 (PDT),
>>
>> wrote:
>> >Sure, Russia and the Stans are still a threat, but we owe China a lot
>> >of money and if we don't pay it back...
>>
>> I think our dept to China is part of our national defense.
>
>Actually, China is indebted to us for far more than a few cheap
>campaign contributions.

Whatever dood. They aren't going to kill the goose that lays the
golden egg. We keep buying their products and they won't bomb us. Is
that simple enough for you to understand?


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

"sf" > wrote in message
>
> They aren't going to kill the goose that lays the
> golden egg. We keep buying their products and they won't bomb us.
>
>


Very true. They may not kill it, but they can control it. What if the China
boss wakes up one day and says "stop all exports to the USA and get all the
money they owe us." In very short time, our retail stores would be 3/4
empty, much of our manufacturing that relies on imported parts will stop,
prices will skyrocket for the things that are left. We'd have economic
chaos.

On Mar 21, 5:11*pm, Winston_Smith > wrote:
> sf > wrote:
> >On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:05:17 -0700 (PDT),
> wrote:
>
> >>On Mar 21, 3:55*pm, sf > wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:55:15 -0700 (PDT),
>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >Sure, Russia and the Stans are still a threat, but we owe China a lot
> >>> >of money and if we don't pay it back...
>
> >>> I think our dept to China is part of our national defense.
>
> >>Actually, China is indebted to us for far more than a few cheap
> >>campaign contributions.
>
> >Whatever dood. *They aren't going to kill the goose that lays the
> >golden egg. *We keep buying their products and they won't bomb us. *Is
> >that simple enough for you to understand?
>
> Their internal market is hugely bigger than the US market and they are
> making impressive inroads into Africa and South America as they
> develop. *It may be the US is past egg producing age and the golden
> goose is ready for the stew pot.

You may be more right than any of us want to admit.

Business goes to where the money will be..not where it was.

TMT

I'm reading this from alt survival. Noticing that you
include two UK groups on your list. Does this suggest you
are in UK?

If you're planning to outlast a nuke strike, food is one of
many things that need to be considered. Just off the top of
my head, lets think of a few.
* Air
* Water
* Cooking food, and refrigeration
* Sanitation (toilet flushing, hand washing)
* Radiation. Both X-ray shielding, and blocking the ever
present radioactive iodine.
* Defense against criminals
* Medical conditions such as common cold, diarrhea, and
infections.
* Entertainment and boredom
* Rad measurement. How soon to come out, and for how long
per day.
* Decontamination. What if you're at the store when the nuke
hits?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Burt Morgan" > wrote in message
...
With Russia spending many -billions- on rearmament and new
nuclear weapons, I
think it's time to clean out and make good the bomb shelter
so that it's ready
for the inevitable nuclear war. I'm now restocking it with
new food.

What would you guys suggest I stock my shelter with?
Remember these goods have
to have a real good shelf life and provide enough nutrition
for a family of four
for the duration.

--
Burt Morgan

"Burt Morgan" > wrote in message
...
> With Russia spending many -billions- on rearmament and new nuclear
> weapons, I
> think it's time to clean out and make good the bomb shelter so that it's
> ready
> for the inevitable nuclear war. I'm now restocking it with new food.
>
> What would you guys suggest I stock my shelter with? Remember these goods
> have
> to have a real good shelf life and provide enough nutrition for a family
> of four
> for the duration.
> Burt Morgan
>
>
Well if you really want to survive? To start with you are in the wrong
place.

So where is the right place?
Q. Well where did they developed the dammed things in the first place?
A. The South Pacific, thousands of miles from so called civilisation.
Q. Where are they going to use them?
A. Not there

The rest ain't rocket science, first sign of real trouble book a flight to
the nearest airport to Bikini Atoll, and take a boat there.+- 1,000 Miles

Steve Terry

Burt Morgan wrote:
> With Russia spending many -billions- on rearmament and new nuclear
> weapons, I think it's time to clean out and make good the bomb
> shelter so that it's ready for the inevitable nuclear war. I'm now
> restocking it with new food.
>
> What would you guys suggest I stock my shelter with? Remember these
> goods have to have a real good shelf life and provide enough
> nutrition for a family of four for the duration.

Chateau Margaux '59 obviously. Not as good as the '29 I grant you but
that is pretty close to its sell by date and as we might be in for a
long haul here, you want something you can lay down for a few decades.

I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that "Lou Ravi"
> reported Elvis on Sat, 21 Mar 2009 23:00:40
+0100 in misc.survivalism:
>Burt Morgan wrote:
>> With Russia spending many -billions- on rearmament and new nuclear
>> weapons, I think it's time to clean out and make good the bomb
>> shelter so that it's ready for the inevitable nuclear war. I'm now
>> restocking it with new food.
>>
>> What would you guys suggest I stock my shelter with? Remember these
>> goods have to have a real good shelf life and provide enough
>> nutrition for a family of four for the duration.
>
>Chateau Margaux '59 obviously. Not as good as the '29 I grant you but
>that is pretty close to its sell by date and as we might be in for a
>long haul here, you want something you can lay down for a few decades.

Good point. And the wine cellar makes an excellent shelter as
well.
>
-
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you fnally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you learn it's a Government Project building more tunnel.

Lou Ravi wrote:
> Burt Morgan wrote:
>> With Russia spending many -billions- on rearmament and new nuclear
>> weapons, I think it's time to clean out and make good the bomb
>> shelter so that it's ready for the inevitable nuclear war. I'm now
>> restocking it with new food.
>>


Isn't the stuff you stocked in the 50s still good?
Granted that food tastes have changed, but the
old stuff should be as good today as it was then....
And just about as useful.

(If civilization DOES come to an end, do you really
want to be around to see it?)

gloria p

Puester wrote:
>
> Lou Ravi wrote:
> > Burt Morgan wrote:
> >> With Russia spending many -billions- on rearmament and new nuclear
> >> weapons, I think it's time to clean out and make good the bomb
> >> shelter so that it's ready for the inevitable nuclear war. I'm now
> >> restocking it with new food.
> >>
>
> Isn't the stuff you stocked in the 50s still good?
> Granted that food tastes have changed, but the
> old stuff should be as good today as it was then....
> And just about as useful.

No. Figure a max of 10yrs shelf life for the most shelf stable items.

>
> (If civilization DOES come to an end, do you really
> want to be around to see it?)

Yes, absolutely.

Burt Morgan > wrote:

> What would you guys suggest I stock my shelter with? Remember these goods
> have to have a real good shelf life and provide enough nutrition for a
> family of four for the duration.

Well you'll need lots of dog milk, it's the best emergency milk there
is.

We have a cupboard like that in the house. "The nuclear winter
cupboard". At present it's mostly full of conny onny, coconut milk, a
couple of bricks of chinese tea, Lyles golden syrup and multiple packets
of dried soup.

TBH having watched "When the Wind Blows", I'd suggest getting hold of a
revolver as well.

Steve Firth wrote:

> Well you'll need lots of dog milk, it's the best emergency milk there
> is.

Could you translate that into US English? I have this unpleasant image of
trying to milk a cocker spaniel.

robert bowman > wrote:

First lesson bloke, don't **** with follow-ups without mentioning it and
don't request follow-ups to poster.


> Steve Firth wrote:
>
> > Well you'll need lots of dog milk, it's the best emergency milk there
> > is.
>
> Could you translate that into US English? I have this unpleasant image of
> trying to milk a cocker spaniel.

Sorry old boy, I only speak English, English.

But yes cocker spaniel would do, probably better to milk a Great Dane
though - you'll need fewer dogs.

(Steve Firth) writes:

> Burt Morgan > wrote:
>
>> What would you guys suggest I stock my shelter with? Remember these
>> goods have to have a real good shelf life and provide enough
>> nutrition for a family of four for the duration.
>
> Well you'll need lots of dog milk, it's the best emergency milk
> there is.

And the longest lasting sort of milk too.

Chris
--
Chris Eilbeck

Chris Eilbeck > wrote:

> (Steve Firth) writes:
>
> > Burt Morgan > wrote:
> >
> >> What would you guys suggest I stock my shelter with? Remember these
> >> goods have to have a real good shelf life and provide enough
> >> nutrition for a family of four for the duration.
> >
> > Well you'll need lots of dog milk, it's the best emergency milk
> > there is.
>
> And the longest lasting sort of milk too.

For one very good reason.

I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that Burt Morgan
> reported Elvis on Sat, 21 Mar 2009
16:49:07 +0000 in misc.survivalism:
>With Russia spending many -billions- on rearmament and new nuclear weapons, I
>think it's time to clean out and make good the bomb shelter so that it's ready
>for the inevitable nuclear war. I'm now restocking it with new food.
>
>What would you guys suggest I stock my shelter with? Remember these goods have
>to have a real good shelf life and provide enough nutrition for a family of four
>for the duration.

What you use currently. I mean, no sense stocking a five year
supply of lentils, peanut butter and vegemite, and nobody in your
family likes any of those. You're not saving any money if you don't
eat it.
Make sure you have a second can opener, not to mention beer tap
(if you're going the keg route).

There a lot of sources for stuff with a "five years" shelf life,
variations on the MR. Some of it is quite good.
Best advice is to use the shelter as part of the pantry, and as
you use stuff up, get more. That way, when the balloon goes up,
you'll have something "fresh" on hand. Plus you get to find out how
well stuff holds up over time. Bottled water, for the same sort of
reason. As I said last winter when the pipe froze "No power I can
handle. Same goes for no phone (ISP dial up). But no water is
serious. I mean, we're talking no coffee! This is a crisis!." [I
survived; went out for a hot coffee, got bottled water, and the pipe
unthawed w/o damage.]
And figure on getting more than you think you will need. One
method is to take the Official Government Estimate, double it, and
move to the next unit of time. Umm, but be reasonable. I mean, if the
Gov says "plan for a year", laying in supplies for two decades might
be a bit much. Might.
-
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you fnally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you learn it's a Government Project building more tunnel.

On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:42:57 -0700, pyotr filipivich
> wrote:

>unthawed w/o damage.]
> And figure on getting more than you think you will need. One
>method is to take the Official Government Estimate, double it, and
>move to the next unit of time. Umm, but be reasonable. I mean, if the
>Gov says "plan for a year", laying in supplies for two decades might
>be a bit much. Might.


Or might not be enough.


"Human nature is bad. Good is a human product*
A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced
before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone
before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected
they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual
and moral principles."
—Sun Tzu
*

I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that Gunner Asch
> reported Elvis on Sat, 21 Mar 2009
19:09:27 -0700 in misc.survivalism:
>On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:42:57 -0700, pyotr filipivich
> wrote:
>
>>unthawed w/o damage.]
>> And figure on getting more than you think you will need. One
>>method is to take the Official Government Estimate, double it, and
>>move to the next unit of time. Umm, but be reasonable. I mean, if the
>>Gov says "plan for a year", laying in supplies for two decades might
>>be a bit much. Might.
>
>
>Or might not be enough.

Have you considered where you would store a 20 year supply of
toilet paper?
-
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you fnally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you learn it's a Government Project building more tunnel.

On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:16:57 -0700, pyotr filipivich
> wrote:

>I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that Gunner Asch
> reported Elvis on Sat, 21 Mar 2009
>19:09:27 -0700 in misc.survivalism:
>>On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:42:57 -0700, pyotr filipivich
> wrote:
>>
>>>unthawed w/o damage.]
>>> And figure on getting more than you think you will need. One
>>>method is to take the Official Government Estimate, double it, and
>>>move to the next unit of time. Umm, but be reasonable. I mean, if the
>>>Gov says "plan for a year", laying in supplies for two decades might
>>>be a bit much. Might.
>>
>>
>>Or might not be enough.
>
> Have you considered where you would store a 20 year supply of
>toilet paper?

Sure. Id not buy 20 yrs worth of butt wipe. Id buy 5 yrs.
And trading stock that I can use to buy butt wipe in 5. oo1 yrs

Gunner

>-
>pyotr filipivich.
>Just about the time you fnally see light at the end of the tunnel,
>you learn it's a Government Project building more tunnel.

"Human nature is bad. Good is a human product*
A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced
before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone
before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected
they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual
and moral principles."
—Sun Tzu
*