Was that Rick Bayless I saw doing a Taco Bell commercial!? I'd hoped,
despite that whiney, weedling, voice Rick uses in his Mexico: One
Plate at a Time program, an affectation that makes him sound like some
sleezy snake oil salesman, he actually had some integrity. His
recipes are so good. But, alas, I guess TB found his price point.
I'd expect it from Emeril or Bobby Flay, but hoped Rick had a little
more backbone. I hope this doesn't become a trend.

nb

"notbob" > wrote in message
news:tfxob.54494$275.136523@attbi_s53...
> Was that Rick Bayless I saw doing a Taco Bell commercial!? I'd hoped,
> despite that whiney, weedling, voice Rick uses in his Mexico: One
> Plate at a Time program, an affectation that makes him sound like some
> sleezy snake oil salesman, he actually had some integrity. His
> recipes are so good. But, alas, I guess TB found his price point.
> I'd expect it from Emeril or Bobby Flay, but hoped Rick had a little
> more backbone. I hope this doesn't become a trend.
>
>

Probably not, but you may have seen him on a Burger King commercial or two.
He explains why he did it on his website and there's a very long, long
discussion going on in egullet on the same topic.

rona

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On 2003-10-31, Rona Yuthasastrakosol > wrote:

> discussion going on in egullet on the same topic.

Thanks for the pointer. An interesting website (egullet).

nb

"notbob" > wrote in message
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>
> Thanks for the pointer. An interesting website (egullet).
>
> nb

It can be great fun to read, and also very helpful. A lot of industry
professionals post there (Paula Wolfert, Michael Laiskonis, Tony Bourdain)
and they have no problems (mostly) with answering mundane questions from
amateurs and ordinary people like me :-). Some people rfc has lost can be
found to be very active over on eGullet. Oh, both Rachel Ray and Rick
Bayless read eGullet, so they read all of the negative comments on their BK
ads (and RR also read not so nice comments on her FHM photos).

For a good laugh, search for Tony Bourdain's post on the 2003 James Beard
Awards, and also on perfume samples in Gourmet magazine (women might enjoy
that one more than men, though :-)).

rona
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Rona wrote:
> For a good laugh, search for Tony Bourdain's post on the 2003 James
> Beard Awards, and also on perfume samples in Gourmet magazine (women
> might enjoy that one more than men, though :-)).

Hi Rona!

You know, I went and searched and couldn't locate this posting. You
wouldn't happen to have a link, would you?

Thanks!

"Jeffrey P. Vasquez" > wrote in
message . 17...
>
> Hi Rona!
>
> You know, I went and searched and couldn't locate this posting. You
> wouldn't happen to have a link, would you?
>
> Thanks!

Try http://tinyurl.com/tzr5 . If it doesn't work, go to the search function
and use "2003" in Keywords, "Bourdain" in Member Name, search in all
categories (I usually check off "show results as posts" but it won't make a
difference in this case), and then select "Any Date". e-Gullet's search
functions sucks, but once you get the hang of it, you can usually find what
you want.

As for the perfume samples post, it's post preview #368098 , but if you
search as above but use "balls" as your keyword instead of "2003", it'll pop
up under the thread titled "Bourdain." It's just a little funny thinking of
him rubbing a perfume strip on his balls--and I don't doubt that he would!

rona

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"notbob" > wrote in message
news:tfxob.54494$275.136523@attbi_s53...
> Was that Rick Bayless I saw doing a Taco Bell commercial!? I'd hoped,
> despite that whiney, weedling, voice Rick uses in his Mexico: One
> Plate at a Time program, an affectation that makes him sound like some
> sleezy snake oil salesman, he actually had some integrity. His
> recipes are so good. But, alas, I guess TB found his price point.
> I'd expect it from Emeril or Bobby Flay, but hoped Rick had a little
> more backbone. I hope this doesn't become a trend.
>
> nb

Shows to go ya, every person has his/her price. Isn't that Rachel hawking
for burger king? When Dianne Kennedy shills for Chilis, I'm gonna boycott
food and eat air.

Jack Sellout

On 2003-10-31, Jack Schidt® > wrote:

> Shows to go ya, every person has his/her price. Isn't that Rachel hawking
> for burger king? When Dianne Kennedy shills for Chilis, I'm gonna boycott
> food and eat air.

I just read Rick's explanation for the BK ads. What a crock! It's
bad enough he's a blatant sellout, but to try and bullshit all his
fans with that load of bullocks about steering the great unwashed
toward a more healthy sandwich is just too much. Why can't people
just own up.

"WhatamI ...crazy!? I did it for the freakin' money!".

Now I could respect that. But, that horse crap on his website
.....well now, my only recourse is to steal his cookbooks.

nb

notbob wrote:

> Was that Rick Bayless I saw doing a Taco Bell commercial!? I'd hoped,
> despite that whiney, weedling, voice Rick uses in his Mexico: One
> Plate at a Time program, an affectation that makes him sound like some
> sleezy snake oil salesman, he actually had some integrity. His
> recipes are so good. But, alas, I guess TB found his price point.
> I'd expect it from Emeril or Bobby Flay, but hoped Rick had a little
> more backbone. I hope this doesn't become a trend.

I'm so glad you're notbob.

It's Burger King and one specific product.

Bayliss says that the people who are promoting sustainable/healthy
eating (like him) should be encouraging big companies, particularly
fast-food ones, to follow suit. One way is to support tangible efforts
that head in that direction. Promote the better stuff at the expense
of the lesser.

He's donating all his checks from BK to various farms that grow high
quality produce within the guidelines he wants to follow.

Pastorio

notbob wrote:
>
> Was that Rick Bayless I saw doing a Taco Bell commercial!? I'd hoped,
> despite that whiney, weedling, voice Rick uses in his Mexico: One
> Plate at a Time program, an affectation that makes him sound like some
> sleezy snake oil salesman, he actually had some integrity.

I have to say, that was a big laugh for me. I never understood how
anyone could stand his style of speech. You described it very well.
I'm sure that will offend his many fans, but that voice makes me
want to say, I was 5 like A LONG TIME AGO!? Just speak.

nancy

On 2003-11-01, Nancy Young > wrote:

> I have to say, that was a big laugh for me. I never understood how
> anyone could stand his style of speech. You described it very well.
> I'm sure that will offend his many fans, but that voice makes me
> want to say, I was 5 like A LONG TIME AGO!? Just speak.

Yeah. Drives me crazy. What makes it particularly annoying is he
doesn't normally talk like that. I once heard him on a live radio
interview.

nb

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:48:09 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>I hope this doesn't become a trend.

Becoming a chef doesn't involve a vow of poverty. Just because dear
Julia never smiled over a serving of KFC doesn't mean that if a pop
star in *any* field chooses to make a buck off his/her celebrity, they
are "selling out." I'm sure high-profile chefs are constantly asked
for endorsements of one sort or another. Another poster said Bayliss
was donating the money to some sort of food-related organization, but
even if he weren't, it's not criminal to accept pay for services in
legitimate enterprises. Did Martha Stewart "sell out" to K-Mart? She
may be the high priestess of Domestic Science, but everyone pretty
much knows she was out for the $$. Presumably the lines of products
she endorses are of a price/quality she believed wouldn't ruin her
street cred.

"Frogleg" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:48:09 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
> >I hope this doesn't become a trend.
>
> Becoming a chef doesn't involve a vow of poverty. Just because dear
> Julia never smiled over a serving of KFC doesn't mean that if a pop
> star in *any* field chooses to make a buck off his/her celebrity, they
> are "selling out." I'm sure high-profile chefs are constantly asked
> for endorsements of one sort or another. Another poster said Bayliss
> was donating the money to some sort of food-related organization, but
> even if he weren't, it's not criminal to accept pay for services in
> legitimate enterprises. Did Martha Stewart "sell out" to K-Mart? She
> may be the high priestess of Domestic Science, but everyone pretty
> much knows she was out for the $$. Presumably the lines of products
> she endorses are of a price/quality she believed wouldn't ruin her
> street cred.


Yeah, but Burger King?

Jack Sold

<piggy-backing>

> Bob Pastorio wrote inter alia:
>
>
>
> You read the entire thread except maybe you didn't? That about it?
> The posts are consecutive. You know, one after another. Not all that
> hard to follow.>>
>

Actually, just because the posts are consecutive doesn't mean a post is
directly related to the post before it. For example, post #1 might be
followed by 10 posts all referring to it, then there might be 1 post
referring to post #5, 2 posts referring to post #7, then 8 more referring to
post #1. It becomes even more difficult when some do not quote the post
they are replying to (and that happens fairly often on e-Gullet) so you have
no idea to which post they are referring.


rona

Rona Yuthasastrakosol wrote:

> <piggy-backing>
>
>>Bob Pastorio wrote inter alia:
>>
>>You read the entire thread except maybe you didn't? That about it?
>>The posts are consecutive. You know, one after another. Not all that
>>hard to follow.>>
>>
> Actually, just because the posts are consecutive doesn't mean a post is
> directly related to the post before it. For example, post #1 might be
> followed by 10 posts all referring to it, then there might be 1 post
> referring to post #5, 2 posts referring to post #7, then 8 more referring to
> post #1. It becomes even more difficult when some do not quote the post
> they are replying to (and that happens fairly often on e-Gullet) so you have
> no idea to which post they are referring.

I'm a subscriber to eGullet, too, and have slogged through a few
puzzlers. I understand the difficulty of following some of the
threads, particularly the longer ones. I guess I didn't explain myself
clearly.

She said she read the entire thread but may have missed some.
Contradictory? We didn't say anything about sequence, just that they
were all available in one place, one after another. It was more her
narrow-eyed imputation of perfidy and greed that pushed my button
here. Accused, judged and condemned all in one short post, facts be
damned.

Pastorio

notbob > wrote in message news:<tfxob.54494$275.136523@attbi_s53>...
> Was that Rick Bayless I saw doing a Taco Bell commercial!? I'd hoped,
> despite that whiney, weedling, voice Rick uses in his Mexico: One
> Plate at a Time program, an affectation that makes him sound like some
> sleezy snake oil salesman, he actually had some integrity. His
> recipes are so good. But, alas, I guess TB found his price point.
> I'd expect it from Emeril or Bobby Flay, but hoped Rick had a little
> more backbone. I hope this doesn't become a trend.
>
> nb

Taco Bell is using Bayless but vice versa is also true. Bayless will
become better known and more people will become aware of authentic
Mexican food.

Also, Bayless is not a snobby purist. He prefers authenticity but he
doesn't hold up his nose at popular tastes or cultural crossbreeding.
Lighten up, dude.