As an offshoot of another thread, I thought I'd rather cook
something that isn't glitzy, something that Obama enjoys. Turns
out he is reported to like takeout from a pizzeria, shrimp and
grits, and his own chili. His recipe is available at:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...e_n_89826.html

This deviates from MY chili in a number of ways, but I might just
do this on Tuesday. And why? Because I feel like celebrating in
my own small way.
--
Jean B.

"Jean B." > wrote in :

> As an offshoot of another thread, I thought I'd rather cook
> something that isn't glitzy, something that Obama enjoys. Turns
> out he is reported to like takeout from a pizzeria, shrimp and
> grits, and his own chili. His recipe is available at:
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...e_n_89826.html
>
> This deviates from MY chili in a number of ways, but I might just
> do this on Tuesday. And why? Because I feel like celebrating in
> my own small way.




I can only hope that he has a *VERY* good staff backing him.


(ie, the ones that tell him what decisions to make.)


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


"And where is the Prince who can afford to so cover his country with troops
for its defense, as that ten thousand men descending from the clouds, might
not in many places do an infinite deal of mischief, before a force could be
brought together to repel them?"

Benjamin Franklin 1748

PeterLucas wrote:
> "Jean B." > wrote in :
>
>> As an offshoot of another thread, I thought I'd rather cook
>> something that isn't glitzy, something that Obama enjoys. Turns
>> out he is reported to like takeout from a pizzeria, shrimp and
>> grits, and his own chili. His recipe is available at:
>>
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...e_n_89826.html
>>
>> This deviates from MY chili in a number of ways, but I might just
>> do this on Tuesday. And why? Because I feel like celebrating in
>> my own small way.
>
>
>
>
> I can only hope that he has a *VERY* good staff backing him.
>
>
> (ie, the ones that tell him what decisions to make.)
>
>
LOL!

--
Jean B.

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:30:34 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas wrote:

> "Jean B." > wrote in :
>
>> As an offshoot of another thread, I thought I'd rather cook
>> something that isn't glitzy, something that Obama enjoys. Turns
>> out he is reported to like takeout from a pizzeria, shrimp and
>> grits, and his own chili. His recipe is available at:
>>
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...e_n_89826.html
>>
>> This deviates from MY chili in a number of ways, but I might just
>> do this on Tuesday. And why? Because I feel like celebrating in
>> my own small way.
>
> I can only hope that he has a *VERY* good staff backing him.
>
> (ie, the ones that tell him what decisions to make.)

yeah, there's no way he'll be a brilliant, independent thinker like george
w. bush.

blake

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:30:34 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas
> wrote:
>
>I can only hope that he has a *VERY* good staff backing him.
>
I'm sure the White House cooks can handle it.
>
>(ie, the ones that tell him what decisions to make.)

We elected someone who can think for himself this time.



--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

sf > wrote in news:ht54n4pisljjg1c0u7ocjshoa07ra2rg57@
4ax.com:

> On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:30:34 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas
> > wrote:
>>
>>I can only hope that he has a *VERY* good staff backing him.
>>
> I'm sure the White House cooks can handle it.
>>
>>(ie, the ones that tell him what decisions to make.)
>
> We elected someone who can think for himself this time.
>
>
>


ROFLMAO!!!!!!


Yeah, right!!


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


"And where is the Prince who can afford to so cover his country with troops
for its defense, as that ten thousand men descending from the clouds, might
not in many places do an infinite deal of mischief, before a force could be
brought together to repel them?"

Benjamin Franklin 1748

On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 03:33:41 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas
> wrote:

>sf > wrote in news:ht54n4pisljjg1c0u7ocjshoa07ra2rg57@
>4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:30:34 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas
>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>I can only hope that he has a *VERY* good staff backing him.
>>>
>> I'm sure the White House cooks can handle it.
>>>
>>>(ie, the ones that tell him what decisions to make.)
>>
>> We elected someone who can think for himself this time.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>ROFLMAO!!!!!!
>
>
>Yeah, right!!

I don't care what you think about us.

I didn't even know what you called your Australian "leader" without
looking it up. He's a Prime Minister, which makes it sound like
you're in church a lot. I don't know his name, but I do know that
he's of no importance on the international scene... and I've heard
he's in a lot of trouble over there in Australia. Deal with your own
shit before you sling it at us.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:39:37 -0800, sf wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 03:33:41 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas
> > wrote:
>
>>sf > wrote in news:ht54n4pisljjg1c0u7ocjshoa07ra2rg57@
>>4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:30:34 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas
>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I can only hope that he has a *VERY* good staff backing him.
>>>>
>>> I'm sure the White House cooks can handle it.
>>>>
>>>>(ie, the ones that tell him what decisions to make.)
>>>
>>> We elected someone who can think for himself this time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>ROFLMAO!!!!!!
>>
>>
>>Yeah, right!!
>
> I don't care what you think about us.
>
> I didn't even know what you called your Australian "leader" without
> looking it up. He's a Prime Minister, which makes it sound like you're
> in church a lot.

It also makes him the leader of the Government, rather than the
"Australian leader" as he's not a Head of State.

> I don't know his name, but I do know that he's of no
> importance on the international scene...

He'd like to be

> and I've heard he's in a lot of
> trouble over there in Australia.

Actually, and somewhat inexplicably, he's very popular.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=649813

"Mr Rudd's personal approval rating has shot up 10 percentage points to
71 per cent, making it the highest rating he has received.

"It puts him second only to Bob Hawke as the nation's most popular prime
minister in the 36-year history of the poll."

> Deal with your own shit before you
> sling it at us.

I doubt Lucas could tell you the number of Members of the United States
Senate without first looking it up. And I doubt his knowledge of U.S.
politics in general extends much further than the names of the major
figures.

sf > wrote in newsvs5n4dj25ojhg1n2m69k5t0vm7mvvaghu@
4ax.com:


>>>>I can only hope that he has a *VERY* good staff backing him.
>>>>(ie, the ones that tell him what decisions to make.)
>>>
>>> We elected someone who can think for himself this time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>ROFLMAO!!!!!!
>>
>>
>>Yeah, right!!
>
> I don't care what you think about us.



That's good dreary, because neither do I.




>
> I didn't even know what you called your Australian "leader" without
> looking it up. He's a Prime Minister, which makes it sound like
> you're in church a lot.


LOL!!! One can see why you're a 'special' school teacher.


Mainstream schools would totally **** you, wouldn't they? *Tooooooo*
much learnin' to go to one of those, hey?



> I don't know his name,


Most dumbasses wouldn't.

According to dumbasses like you, there's no world outside the USA,
right?



> but I do know that
> he's of no importance on the international scene...


And this is from your contacts at the Pentagon, right?? ROFLMFAO!!!!



> and I've heard
> he's in a lot of trouble over there in Australia.


It seems to me you're throwing a lot of innuendo, and no substantial
fact around, trying to blow smoke up everyones ass.

Typical of you.


You *really* should leave the schoolyard antics at school, don't you
think?



> Deal with your own
> shit before you sling it at us.
>
>


Seems you've got your tits all in a tangle because I *dared* to say
something about your token black president.

As a 'current' *******, your previous 'hate all men' stance was quite
obvious.

Why the change??

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


"And where is the Prince who can afford to so cover his country with
troops for its defense, as that ten thousand men descending from the
clouds, might not in many places do an infinite deal of mischief, before
a force could be brought together to repel them?"

Benjamin Franklin 1748

On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 03:33:41 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas wrote:

> sf > wrote in news:ht54n4pisljjg1c0u7ocjshoa07ra2rg57@
> 4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:30:34 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas
>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>I can only hope that he has a *VERY* good staff backing him.
>>>
>> I'm sure the White House cooks can handle it.
>>>
>>>(ie, the ones that tell him what decisions to make.)
>>
>> We elected someone who can think for himself this time.
>>
>
> ROFLMAO!!!!!!
>
> Yeah, right!!

i didn't know they got rush limbaugh over in australia.

blake

PeterLucas wrote:
> "Jean B." > wrote in :
>
>> As an offshoot of another thread, I thought I'd rather cook
>> something that isn't glitzy, something that Obama enjoys. Turns
>> out he is reported to like takeout from a pizzeria, shrimp and
>> grits, and his own chili. His recipe is available at:
>>
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...e_n_89826.html
>>
>> This deviates from MY chili in a number of ways, but I might just
>> do this on Tuesday. And why? Because I feel like celebrating in
>> my own small way.
>
>
>
>
> I can only hope that he has a *VERY* good staff backing him.
>
>
> (ie, the ones that tell him what decisions to make.)
>
>
It would seem he is off to a great start. He appointed someone with no
integrity as treasury secretary. It seems that the appointee (Geithner)
simply overlooked paying $30,000 in taxes on additional income he had
over four years in the recent past. It is understandable he could make
this mistake because numbers could be a difficult concept for the
president of the New York Federal Reserve Bank and a potential treasury
secretary. As president of the New York Fed he is a key guy in bailing
out the Wall Street fat cats.

On 2009-01-17, Jean B. > wrote:

> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...e_n_89826.html
>
> This deviates from MY chili in a number of ways, but I might just
> do this on Tuesday. And why? Because I feel like celebrating in
> my own small way.

Like everything about BO, it's totally non-committal. Turkey or beef?
Kidney beans? Basil!?

It's gonna be a sad four years.

nb

notbob wrote:
> On 2009-01-17, Jean B. > wrote:
>
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...e_n_89826.html
>>
>> This deviates from MY chili in a number of ways, but I might just
>> do this on Tuesday. And why? Because I feel like celebrating in
>> my own small way.
>
> Like everything about BO, it's totally non-committal. Turkey or beef?
> Kidney beans? Basil!?
>
> It's gonna be a sad four years.
>
> nb

LOL (re the food part, that is). I want to see what this tastes
like. Different, for sure.

--
Jean B.

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:54:05 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:

>LOL (re the food part, that is). I want to see what this tastes
>like. Different, for sure.

My niece make turkey chili (for her father). I don't like it.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:48:45 GMT, notbob wrote:

> On 2009-01-17, Jean B. > wrote:
>
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...e_n_89826.html
>>
>> This deviates from MY chili in a number of ways, but I might just
>> do this on Tuesday. And why? Because I feel like celebrating in
>> my own small way.
>
> Like everything about BO, it's totally non-committal. Turkey or beef?
> Kidney beans? Basil!?
>
> It's gonna be a sad four years.
>
> nb

unlike the last eight when joy was unrestrained?

blake

On 2009-01-17, blake murphy > wrote:

> unlike the last eight when joy was unrestrained?

Hey, the gated elite laughed all the way to the bank.

nb

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:08:56 GMT, notbob wrote:

> On 2009-01-17, blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> unlike the last eight when joy was unrestrained?
>
> Hey, the gated elite laughed all the way to the bank.
>
> nb

i think this is why bush views his tenure as largely successful.

your pal,
blake

On 2009-01-18, blake murphy > wrote:

> i think this is why bush views his tenure as largely successful.

Like most past prezes.

There is an us-vs-them mentality in this country. That we're-all-equal crap
falls apart after a certain economic strata has been surmounted. Many
societies are class conscious by birth or heredity. Since the US culture is
so young, without centuries of tradition, we're strictly money based. Some
of it is even invented and totally bogus. The Devil Wears Prada is a
brilliant satire on wealth driven class consciousness in this country.

Miranda Priestly: Oh, don't be ridiculous. Andrea. Everybody wants this.
Everybody wants to be us.


nb

notbob wrote:
> On 2009-01-17, Jean B. > wrote:
>
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...e_n_89826.html
>>
>> This deviates from MY chili in a number of ways, but I might just
>> do this on Tuesday. And why? Because I feel like celebrating in
>> my own small way.
>
> Like everything about BO, it's totally non-committal. Turkey or beef?
> Kidney beans? Basil!?
>
> It's gonna be a sad four years.
>
> nb


It can't possibly be sadder than the past eight years.

More politicians need to learn that a good way to keep your foot out of
your mouth is to keep your mouth shut until you know what you're talking
about.

gloria p

notbob wrote:
> On 2009-01-17, Jean B. > wrote:
>
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...e_n_89826.html
>>
>> This deviates from MY chili in a number of ways, but I might just
>> do this on Tuesday. And why? Because I feel like celebrating in
>> my own small way.
>
> Like everything about BO, it's totally non-committal. Turkey or beef?
> Kidney beans? Basil!?
>
> It's gonna be a sad four years.
>
> nb
>
>
Non-committal? I'd be more inclined to call it flexibility, but hey,
whatever floats your boat.

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:01:28 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:

>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...e_n_89826.html
>
>This deviates from MY chili in a number of ways, but I might just
>do this on Tuesday. And why? Because I feel like celebrating in
>my own small way.

Well, I can safely say he ain't from Texas. Except for the missing
cinnamon, this could pass for Skyline. They eat funny up there.

Alex

On Jan 17, 10:54*am, Chemiker > wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:01:28 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
> >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...recipe_n_89826....
>
> >This deviates from MY chili in a number of ways, but I might just
> >do this on Tuesday. *And why? *Because I feel like celebrating in
> >my own small way.
>
> Well, I can safely say he ain't from Texas. Except for the missing
> cinnamon, this could pass for Skyline. They eat funny up there.
>
> Alex
===============================
Alex . . .
Whoa! That ain't even CLOSE to Cincinnati Chili! Where's the
chocolate, the coffee, the 27 other ingredients? Over RICE? With
TURKEY? I love Obama, but I thought he was supposed to be a Foodie.
That recipe sounds like it was written by a spinmeister to keep the
health nuts happy!
Lynn in Fargo

On Jan 17, 10:50*am, Lynn from Fargo > wrote:
> On Jan 17, 10:54*am, Chemiker > wrote:> On Sat, 17 Jan >
> > Well, I can safely say he ain't from Texas. Except for the missing
> > cinnamon, this could pass for Skyline. They eat funny up there.
> . . .
> Whoa! *That ain't even CLOSE to Cincinnati Chili! *Where's the
> chocolate, the coffee, the 27 other ingredients? *Over RICE? *With
> TURKEY? I love Obama, but I thought he was supposed to be a Foodie.
> That recipe sounds like it was written by a spinmeister to keep the
> health nuts happy!

Not Texas chili, not Cincinnati chili, not the kind of chili you spend
weekend hours creating. I'd say it's a typical middle of the road
fast weeknight 'let's throw together something that reminds us of
chili' dish. IOW the kind of thing that's made all the time in
kitchens all around the country. -aem

"aem" > wrote

> IOW the kind of thing that's made all the time in
>kitchens all around the country. -aem

And heartily enjoyed.

aem wrote:
> On Jan 17, 10:50 am, Lynn from Fargo > wrote:
>> On Jan 17, 10:54 am, Chemiker > wrote:> On Sat, 17 Jan >
>>> Well, I can safely say he ain't from Texas. Except for the missing
>>> cinnamon, this could pass for Skyline. They eat funny up there.
>> . . .
>> Whoa! That ain't even CLOSE to Cincinnati Chili! Where's the
>> chocolate, the coffee, the 27 other ingredients? Over RICE? With
>> TURKEY? I love Obama, but I thought he was supposed to be a Foodie.
>> That recipe sounds like it was written by a spinmeister to keep the
>> health nuts happy!
>
> Not Texas chili, not Cincinnati chili, not the kind of chili you spend
> weekend hours creating. I'd say it's a typical middle of the road
> fast weeknight 'let's throw together something that reminds us of
> chili' dish. IOW the kind of thing that's made all the time in
> kitchens all around the country. -aem

I looked this us because I wondered whether it was like such
recipes our moms might have made. The vinegar is very different
(for me, anyway). I guess I have one foot in each chili camp with
the one mom made (with beans, tomatoes, etc.) being a comfort
food, and the "more-authentic" ones being something else.

--
Jean B.

On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:04:23 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:

Uh, I have to agree on a couple of things.

Yes, I add cocoa to my chili and thicken with
corn meal. I'm thinking Aztec and mole. But
TURMERIC? LOL!

The vinegar I can live with. I use it myself for
dishes that tend to the sweet to achieve a
S/S balance. Like RBR.

Alex

On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:04:23 -0500, Jean B. wrote:

> aem wrote:
>> On Jan 17, 10:50 am, Lynn from Fargo > wrote:
>>> On Jan 17, 10:54 am, Chemiker > wrote:> On Sat, 17 Jan >
>>>> Well, I can safely say he ain't from Texas. Except for the missing
>>>> cinnamon, this could pass for Skyline. They eat funny up there.
>>> . . .
>>> Whoa! That ain't even CLOSE to Cincinnati Chili! Where's the
>>> chocolate, the coffee, the 27 other ingredients? Over RICE? With
>>> TURKEY? I love Obama, but I thought he was supposed to be a Foodie.
>>> That recipe sounds like it was written by a spinmeister to keep the
>>> health nuts happy!
>>
>> Not Texas chili, not Cincinnati chili, not the kind of chili you spend
>> weekend hours creating. I'd say it's a typical middle of the road
>> fast weeknight 'let's throw together something that reminds us of
>> chili' dish. IOW the kind of thing that's made all the time in
>> kitchens all around the country. -aem
>
> I looked this us because I wondered whether it was like such
> recipes our moms might have made. The vinegar is very different
> (for me, anyway). I guess I have one foot in each chili camp with
> the one mom made (with beans, tomatoes, etc.) being a comfort
> food, and the "more-authentic" ones being something else.

i don't think vinegar is that out-of-the way in chili. it's used in the
recipe i usually work from.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:50:21 -0800 (PST), Lynn from Fargo
> wrote:

>Whoa! That ain't even CLOSE to Cincinnati Chili! Where's the
>chocolate, the coffee, the 27 other ingredients?

Skyline means Cincinnati Chili? I had no idea what he meant by that.

>Over RICE?

Chili with beans is *great* over rice (I did it just last weekend)...
and think about it - rice reflects his Asian upbringing.

>With TURKEY? I love Obama, but I thought he was supposed to be a Foodie.

I'm not a turkey chili fan either, it's pretty bland... but at least
he's eating healthy.

>That recipe sounds like it was written by a spinmeister to keep the
>health nuts happy!

Maybe - or maybe the beef alternative was put there to keep
unimaginative (meaning no deviating from the written recipe) red meat
fans happy.



--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

>Maybe - or maybe the beef alternative was put there to keep
>unimaginative (meaning no deviating from the written recipe) red meat
>fans happy.

Uh, right. You don't like cholesterol? Leave out the red meat.
Substitute cucumbers.

Alex

In article >,
Chemiker > wrote:

> >Maybe - or maybe the beef alternative was put there to keep
> >unimaginative (meaning no deviating from the written recipe) red meat
> >fans happy.
>
> Uh, right. You don't like cholesterol? Leave out the red meat.
> Substitute cucumbers.
>
> Alex

Zucchini works better as a meat substitute imho.

YMMV as always.
--
Peace! Om

"Any ship can be a minesweeper. Once." -- Anonymous

Jean B. wrote:
> As an offshoot of another thread, I thought I'd rather cook
> something that isn't glitzy, something that Obama enjoys. Turns
> out he is reported to like takeout from a pizzeria, shrimp and
> grits, and his own chili. His recipe is available at:
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...e_n_89826.html
>
> This deviates from MY chili in a number of ways, but I might just
> do this on Tuesday. And why? Because I feel like celebrating in
> my own small way.
> --
> Jean B.

I always like to see other people's chili recipes. Unlike the Chili Cookoff
folks who have a set of rules and personal stringent guidlines, the rest of
us make chili the way we like it, the way Mom made it, in general the way it
was made where we grew up. Very little tomato in Obama's -- not sure I
would like it that way. But then my chili can vary by what is growing in
the garden and what is in the cupboard.
Janet

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:40:48 -0700, Janet Bostwick wrote:

> Jean B. wrote:
>> As an offshoot of another thread, I thought I'd rather cook
>> something that isn't glitzy, something that Obama enjoys. Turns
>> out he is reported to like takeout from a pizzeria, shrimp and
>> grits, and his own chili. His recipe is available at:
>>
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...e_n_89826.html
>>
>> This deviates from MY chili in a number of ways, but I might just
>> do this on Tuesday. And why? Because I feel like celebrating in
>> my own small way.
>> --
>> Jean B.
>
> I always like to see other people's chili recipes. Unlike the Chili Cookoff
> folks who have a set of rules and personal stringent guidlines, the rest of
> us make chili the way we like it, the way Mom made it, in general the way it
> was made where we grew up. Very little tomato in Obama's -- not sure I
> would like it that way. But then my chili can vary by what is growing in
> the garden and what is in the cupboard.
> Janet

it's more public relations than anything else. wingers would scream if he
used exotic dried peppers or the like and call it further evidence he's
some kind of 'elitist,' as if that's a sin.

your pal,
blake

On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:56:36 GMT, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:40:48 -0700, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>> Jean B. wrote:
>>> As an offshoot of another thread, I thought I'd rather cook
>>> something that isn't glitzy, something that Obama enjoys. Turns
>>> out he is reported to like takeout from a pizzeria, shrimp and
>>> grits, and his own chili. His recipe is available at:
>>>
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...e_n_89826.html
>>>
>>> This deviates from MY chili in a number of ways, but I might just
>>> do this on Tuesday. And why? Because I feel like celebrating in
>>> my own small way.
>>> --
>>> Jean B.
>>
>> I always like to see other people's chili recipes. Unlike the Chili Cookoff
>> folks who have a set of rules and personal stringent guidlines, the rest of
>> us make chili the way we like it, the way Mom made it, in general the way it
>> was made where we grew up. Very little tomato in Obama's -- not sure I
>> would like it that way. But then my chili can vary by what is growing in
>> the garden and what is in the cupboard.
>> Janet
>
>it's more public relations than anything else. wingers would scream if he
>used exotic dried peppers or the like and call it further evidence he's
>some kind of 'elitist,' as if that's a sin.
>
It's élitist, Blake, élitist.
--
modom

ambitious when it comes to fiddling with meat

On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:24:43 -0600, modom (palindrome guy) wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:56:36 GMT, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:40:48 -0700, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>
>>> Jean B. wrote:
>>>> As an offshoot of another thread, I thought I'd rather cook
>>>> something that isn't glitzy, something that Obama enjoys. Turns
>>>> out he is reported to like takeout from a pizzeria, shrimp and
>>>> grits, and his own chili. His recipe is available at:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...e_n_89826.html
>>>>
>>>> This deviates from MY chili in a number of ways, but I might just
>>>> do this on Tuesday. And why? Because I feel like celebrating in
>>>> my own small way.
>>>> --
>>>> Jean B.
>>>
>>> I always like to see other people's chili recipes. Unlike the Chili Cookoff
>>> folks who have a set of rules and personal stringent guidlines, the rest of
>>> us make chili the way we like it, the way Mom made it, in general the way it
>>> was made where we grew up. Very little tomato in Obama's -- not sure I
>>> would like it that way. But then my chili can vary by what is growing in
>>> the garden and what is in the cupboard.
>>> Janet
>>
>>it's more public relations than anything else. wingers would scream if he
>>used exotic dried peppers or the like and call it further evidence he's
>>some kind of 'elitist,' as if that's a sin.
>>
> It's élitist, Blake, élitist.

you've been reading a little too much of *the new yorker*. try to be more
coöperative.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:40:48 -0700, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>> Jean B. wrote:
>>> As an offshoot of another thread, I thought I'd rather cook
>>> something that isn't glitzy, something that Obama enjoys. Turns
>>> out he is reported to like takeout from a pizzeria, shrimp and
>>> grits, and his own chili. His recipe is available at:
>>>
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...e_n_89826.html
>>>
>>> This deviates from MY chili in a number of ways, but I might just
>>> do this on Tuesday. And why? Because I feel like celebrating in
>>> my own small way.
>>> --
>>> Jean B.
>> I always like to see other people's chili recipes. Unlike the Chili Cookoff
>> folks who have a set of rules and personal stringent guidlines, the rest of
>> us make chili the way we like it, the way Mom made it, in general the way it
>> was made where we grew up. Very little tomato in Obama's -- not sure I
>> would like it that way. But then my chili can vary by what is growing in
>> the garden and what is in the cupboard.
>> Janet
>
> it's more public relations than anything else. wingers would scream if he
> used exotic dried peppers or the like and call it further evidence he's
> some kind of 'elitist,' as if that's a sin.
>
> your pal,
> blake
>
>
Exactly; I've wondered for quite a while now why so many people think
there's something wrong with striving for excellence.

"flitterbit" > wrote
> >
> Exactly; I've wondered for quite a while now why so many people think
> there's something wrong with striving for excellence.

This is why I quite working for the government, where you are "showing
everyone else up" if you strive for excellence and achieve it.

On Jan 18, 12:40*pm, flitterbit > wrote:
> blake murphy wrote:
> > On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:40:48 -0700, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
> >> Jean B. wrote:
> >>> As an offshoot of another thread, I thought I'd rather cook
> >>> something that isn't glitzy, something that Obama enjoys. *Turns
> >>> out he is reported to like takeout from a pizzeria, shrimp and
> >>> grits, and his own chili. *His recipe is available at:
>
> >>>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...recipe_n_89826.....
>
> >>> This deviates from MY chili in a number of ways, but I might just
> >>> do this on Tuesday. *And why? *Because I feel like celebrating in
> >>> my own small way.
> >>> --
> >>> Jean B.
> >> I always like to see other people's chili recipes. *Unlike the Chili Cookoff
> >> folks who have a set of rules and personal stringent guidlines, the rest of
> >> us make chili the way we like it, the way Mom made it, in general the way it
> >> was made where we grew up. *Very little tomato in Obama's -- not sure I
> >> would like it that way. *But then my chili can vary by what is growing in
> >> the garden and what is in the cupboard.
> >> Janet
>
> > it's more public relations than anything else. *wingers would scream if he
> > used exotic dried peppers or the like and call it further evidence he's
> > some kind of 'elitist,' as if that's a sin.
>
> > your pal,
> > blake
>
> *>
> *>
> Exactly; I've wondered for quite a while now why so many people think
> there's something wrong with striving for excellence.

There's nothing wrong with striving for excellence. However, it's my
belief that most folks like to eat the foods that they enjoyed when
they were growing up. Mr. Obama stated that he would like to go to
Zippy's or Rainbow Drive Inn when he was in Hawaii. I doubt this was a
public relations ploy or putting up a folksy front for the crowd. The
reality is that you can't get this food anywhere else in the world.
I'm sure that's true with most folks that have a taste for their foods
they had when they were growing up - you have to go home to get it.

OTOH, the foods you enjoyed as a kid has little to do with one's
striving for excellence even though they are plain and simple. I
remember going to the tiny Baskins-Robbins store on the corner of
Punahou and S. King street years ago that Barack Obama used to work
and remember a tall, enthusiastic black kid that stuck out like a sore
thumb. It would have been tough to believe that a black kid from
Hawaii could be president but that's where we stand today.

What you guys should remember is that Barack Obama is not really a
black guy - he's a hapa dude. Typically those folks will be able to
identify with the cultures of both parents but not really feel truly a
part of either. Of course, he also has much experience with the Asian
cultures too, having grown up in Hawaii. So it seems that the US has
picked as it's president it's first multi-cultural leader - this outta
get interesting.

"dsi1" > wrote
>What you guys should remember is that Barack Obama is not really a
>black guy - he's a hapa dude. Typically those folks will be able to
>identify with the cultures of both parents but not really feel truly a
>part of either. Of course, he also has much experience with the Asian
>cultures too, having grown up in Hawaii. So it seems that the US has
>picked as it's president it's first multi-cultural leader - this outta
>get interesting.

Excellent points, all.

In article
>,
dsi1 > wrote:

> On Jan 18, 12:40*pm, flitterbit > wrote:
> > blake murphy wrote:
> > > On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:40:48 -0700, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> >
> > >> Jean B. wrote:
> > >>> As an offshoot of another thread, I thought I'd rather cook
> > >>> something that isn't glitzy, something that Obama enjoys. *Turns
> > >>> out he is reported to like takeout from a pizzeria, shrimp and
> > >>> grits, and his own chili. *His recipe is available at:
> >
> > >>>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...s-chili-recipe n 89826....
> >
> > >>> This deviates from MY chili in a number of ways, but I might just
> > >>> do this on Tuesday. *And why? *Because I feel like celebrating in
> > >>> my own small way.
> > >>> --
> > >>> Jean B.
> > >> I always like to see other people's chili recipes. *Unlike the Chili
> > >> Cookoff
> > >> folks who have a set of rules and personal stringent guidlines, the rest
> > >> of
> > >> us make chili the way we like it, the way Mom made it, in general the
> > >> way it
> > >> was made where we grew up. *Very little tomato in Obama's -- not sure I
> > >> would like it that way. *But then my chili can vary by what is growing
> > >> in
> > >> the garden and what is in the cupboard.
> > >> Janet
> >
> > > it's more public relations than anything else. *wingers would scream if
> > > he
> > > used exotic dried peppers or the like and call it further evidence he's
> > > some kind of 'elitist,' as if that's a sin.
> >
> > > your pal,
> > > blake
> >
> > *>
> > *>
> > Exactly; I've wondered for quite a while now why so many people think
> > there's something wrong with striving for excellence.
>
> There's nothing wrong with striving for excellence. However, it's my
> belief that most folks like to eat the foods that they enjoyed when
> they were growing up. Mr. Obama stated that he would like to go to
> Zippy's or Rainbow Drive Inn when he was in Hawaii. I doubt this was a
> public relations ploy or putting up a folksy front for the crowd. The
> reality is that you can't get this food anywhere else in the world.
> I'm sure that's true with most folks that have a taste for their foods
> they had when they were growing up - you have to go home to get it.
>
> OTOH, the foods you enjoyed as a kid has little to do with one's
> striving for excellence even though they are plain and simple. I
> remember going to the tiny Baskins-Robbins store on the corner of
> Punahou and S. King street years ago that Barack Obama used to work
> and remember a tall, enthusiastic black kid that stuck out like a sore
> thumb. It would have been tough to believe that a black kid from
> Hawaii could be president but that's where we stand today.
>
> What you guys should remember is that Barack Obama is not really a
> black guy - he's a hapa dude. Typically those folks will be able to
> identify with the cultures of both parents but not really feel truly a
> part of either. Of course, he also has much experience with the Asian
> cultures too, having grown up in Hawaii. So it seems that the US has
> picked as it's president it's first multi-cultural leader - this outta
> get interesting.

Maybe we finally elected a President that actually has a clu'...
--
Peace! Om

"Any ship can be a minesweeper. Once." -- Anonymous

dsi1 wrote:
> On Jan 18, 12:40 pm, flitterbit > wrote:
>> blake murphy wrote:
>>> On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:40:48 -0700, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>>> Jean B. wrote:
>>>>> As an offshoot of another thread, I thought I'd rather cook
>>>>> something that isn't glitzy, something that Obama enjoys. Turns
>>>>> out he is reported to like takeout from a pizzeria, shrimp and
>>>>> grits, and his own chili. His recipe is available at:
>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...recipe_n_89826....
>>>>> This deviates from MY chili in a number of ways, but I might just
>>>>> do this on Tuesday. And why? Because I feel like celebrating in
>>>>> my own small way.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jean B.
>>>> I always like to see other people's chili recipes. Unlike the Chili Cookoff
>>>> folks who have a set of rules and personal stringent guidlines, the rest of
>>>> us make chili the way we like it, the way Mom made it, in general the way it
>>>> was made where we grew up. Very little tomato in Obama's -- not sure I
>>>> would like it that way. But then my chili can vary by what is growing in
>>>> the garden and what is in the cupboard.
>>>> Janet
>>> it's more public relations than anything else. wingers would scream if he
>>> used exotic dried peppers or the like and call it further evidence he's
>>> some kind of 'elitist,' as if that's a sin.
>>> your pal,
>>> blake
>> >
>> >
>> Exactly; I've wondered for quite a while now why so many people think
>> there's something wrong with striving for excellence.
>
> There's nothing wrong with striving for excellence. However, it's my
> belief that most folks like to eat the foods that they enjoyed when
> they were growing up. Mr. Obama stated that he would like to go to
> Zippy's or Rainbow Drive Inn when he was in Hawaii. I doubt this was a
> public relations ploy or putting up a folksy front for the crowd. The
> reality is that you can't get this food anywhere else in the world.
> I'm sure that's true with most folks that have a taste for their foods
> they had when they were growing up - you have to go home to get it.
>
> OTOH, the foods you enjoyed as a kid has little to do with one's
> striving for excellence even though they are plain and simple. I
> remember going to the tiny Baskins-Robbins store on the corner of
> Punahou and S. King street years ago that Barack Obama used to work
> and remember a tall, enthusiastic black kid that stuck out like a sore
> thumb. It would have been tough to believe that a black kid from
> Hawaii could be president but that's where we stand today.
>
> What you guys should remember is that Barack Obama is not really a
> black guy - he's a hapa dude. Typically those folks will be able to
> identify with the cultures of both parents but not really feel truly a
> part of either. Of course, he also has much experience with the Asian
> cultures too, having grown up in Hawaii. So it seems that the US has
> picked as it's president it's first multi-cultural leader - this outta
> get interesting.
>
>
Your points are all valid, but my comment was simply a response to how
the word "elitist" has morphed into something negative. As far as I'm
concerned, Mr. Obama should eat whatever he likes because he enjoys it,
without worrying about whether or not his choices will be deemed by
anyone to be lowbrow, highbrow, or somewhere in between.