On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 03:12:00 -0800 (PST), grotto_man
> wrote:

>http://www.numbersusa.com/content/ne...e-amnesty.html
>has the claim from Reid, himself an amnesty supporter, that McCain and
>Obama have agreed to support an amnesty. Obama supported and voted for
>amnesties while in the Senate, and McCain co-sponsored the last big
>amnesty bill, along with Ted Kennedy.
>
>Unfortunately, the turnover of Congress from Democrats to Republicans
>has made amnesty more likely, as most rank and file Republicans oppose
>amnesties, while most Democrats support it.
>
>A good example is the treatment of the E-Verify program, which allows
>employers to check employment eligibility online very quickly. It's
>had great effect, and states such as Arizona use it for their
>mandatory eligibility check laws.
>
>Its effectiveness belies the claim that illegal immigration can't be
>stopped, so pro-illegal immigration advocates have constantly tried to
>eliminate it. Rather than making it permanent and making its use
>mandatory, it's been left with voluntary usage (by the Feds) and
>requiring periodic re-authorization. This part year, the Democrats
>refused to reauthorize for 5 years as the Republicans wanted, instead
>re-authorizing for only a few months, which expire the first half of
>2009. It is expected that supporters of amnesty will tie re-
>authorization of E-Verify to passage of an amnesty.
>
>So what can you do know? You can let Congress and the President-Elect
>what you think of amnesties, and remind them while it's never a good
>time to screw over the American people, particluarly working
>Americans, with illegal alien amnesties, a deep recession is a
>particularly bad time. Previous amnesties that seemed sure to pass
>have been stopped before.
>
>House:
>Write your representative at http://www.house.gov/writerep
>Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), Speaker http://speaker.house.gov/contact/
>John Boehner (R-OH), Minority Leader http://republicanleader.house.gov/
>
>Senate:
>Write your Senator: http://senate.gov/general/contact_in...nators_cfm.cfm
>Harry Reid( D-NV) , Majority Leader http://reid.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm
>Mitch McConnell (R-KY), Minority Leader http://mcconnell.senate.gov/contact_form.cfm
>
>President Elect
>Transition team http://change.gov/page/s/contact
>Petition to protect American workers by opposing amnesty
>http://www.numbersusa.com/petition
>
>Keep track of progress
>NumbersUSA http://www.NumbersUSA.com
>FAIR http://www.fairus.org
>
>And as always, please pass this on to friends, family, aquaintances or
>anyone else who might be interested!

Amnesty, through "chain migration" will open the gates to a flood of
low IQ third-world immigrants.

ted

wrote:
>
[....]
> Amnesty, through "chain migration" will open the gates to a flood of
> low IQ third-world immigrants.
>
> ted

so then ted, if indeed these people do have a lower IQ than yours
would that not allow the self righteous to enjoy their sense of so
called natural superiorities?

just asking.

Jim wrote:
> wrote:
> [....]
>> Amnesty, through "chain migration" will open the gates to a flood of
>> low IQ third-world immigrants.
>>
>> ted
>
> so then ted, if indeed these people do have a lower IQ than yours
> would that not allow the self righteous to enjoy their sense of so
> called natural superiorities?
>
> just asking.

Oo! Oo! Someone mentioned I.Q!

Is Arthur Jensen in the house?

On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 11:07:35 -0500, Jim > wrote:

wrote:
>>
>[....]
>> Amnesty, through "chain migration" will open the gates to a flood of
>> low IQ third-world immigrants.
>>
>> ted
>
>so then ted, if indeed these people do have a lower IQ than yours
>would that not allow the self righteous to enjoy their sense of so
>called natural superiorities?
>
>just asking.

First, I want all immigration limited. Perhaps to 100,000 per year of
their "brightest and best". Now we are allowing almost a million per
year of legal immigrants mostly third-worlders thanks to Ted Kennedy
and his push to remove national quotas years ago. If you have any
environmental concerns then
you understand the growing problem. For years America has operated on
a sort of economic/population-growth Ponzi scheme. Keep adding and
selling! Hopefully, we can develope industries of a high technological
type. We have enough "marginal" citizens who are not able to compete
in such a society. The mestizo illegal alien has an group average IQ
of about 87. The best plan for America would be to stabilize
population, increase exports, and at the same time develope
alternative sources of enegry.

ted

wrote:

> Jim wrote:
> wrote:
> >>
> >[....]
> >> Amnesty, through "chain migration" will open the gates to a flood of
> >> low IQ third-world immigrants.
> >>
> >> ted
> >
> >so then ted, if indeed these people do have a lower IQ than yours
> >would that not allow the self righteous to enjoy their sense of so
> >called natural superiorities?
> >
> >just asking.
>
> First, I want all immigration limited. Perhaps to 100,000 per year of
> their "brightest and best". Now we are allowing almost a million per
> year of legal immigrants mostly third-worlders thanks to Ted Kennedy
> and his push to remove national quotas years ago.

you are crediting the wrong democrat.
Emanuel Celler [D-NY] Sen. Philip Hart [D-MI]
http://www.ednews.org/articles/3512/...t-1/Page1.html

I have no respect for kennedy. however when we throw rocks at him we
need to use the correct rocks. such as "ted kennedy's car has killed
more people than my firearm has."

> If you have any
> environmental concerns then
> you understand the growing problem.

I am currently watching my home state of NC undergo much destruction
as it is being overrun by people seeking a better life as they escape
areas of extremely high unemployment as well as exorbitantly high rates
of property taxation. watching forest after forest being mowed down is
heart breaking.

even more heart breaking has been watching these newcomers seeking to
establish the same forms of government which lead to their exorbitantly
high rates of property taxation in their previous locations.


> For years America has operated on
> a sort of economic/population-growth Ponzi scheme.

the theory of more tax paying modules paying tax to the governing privileged
class means larger paychecks for the govern-0-mites and a better standard of
living for those doing the governing.


> Keep adding and
> selling! Hopefully, we can develope industries of a high technological
> type.

thus was the theory behind the establishment of the RTP here in NC.


> We have enough "marginal" citizens who are not able to compete
> in such a society. The mestizo
> illegal alien has an group average IQ of about 87.

the word 'mestizo' actually denotes a person of mixed blood, mixed
european and American Indian ancestry. so then if I were going to
use that word I'd take care to define the european as the illegal
alien. using today's international war crimes tribunal I'd even go
so far as to levy charges against the european for their genocidal
policies towards the American Indian. IMO



> The best plan for America would be to stabilize
> population, increase exports, and at the same time develope
> alternative sources of enegry.
>
> ted

ted for king in 2012 <g>

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 13:35:29 -0500, Jim > wrote:

wrote:
>
>> Jim wrote:
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >[....]
>> >> Amnesty, through "chain migration" will open the gates to a flood of
>> >> low IQ third-world immigrants.
>> >>
>> >> ted
>> >
>> >so then ted, if indeed these people do have a lower IQ than yours
>> >would that not allow the self righteous to enjoy their sense of so
>> >called natural superiorities?
>> >
>> >just asking.
>>
>> First, I want all immigration limited. Perhaps to 100,000 per year of
>> their "brightest and best". Now we are allowing almost a million per
>> year of legal immigrants mostly third-worlders thanks to Ted Kennedy
>> and his push to remove national quotas years ago.
>
>you are crediting the wrong democrat.
>Emanuel Celler [D-NY] Sen. Philip Hart [D-MI]
>http://www.ednews.org/articles/3512/...t-1/Page1.html
>
>I have no respect for kennedy. however when we throw rocks at him we
>need to use the correct rocks. such as "ted kennedy's car has killed
>more people than my firearm has."
>
>> If you have any
>> environmental concerns then
>> you understand the growing problem.
>
>I am currently watching my home state of NC undergo much destruction
>as it is being overrun by people seeking a better life as they escape
>areas of extremely high unemployment as well as exorbitantly high rates
>of property taxation. watching forest after forest being mowed down is
>heart breaking.
>
>even more heart breaking has been watching these newcomers seeking to
>establish the same forms of government which lead to their exorbitantly
>high rates of property taxation in their previous locations.
>
>
>> For years America has operated on
>> a sort of economic/population-growth Ponzi scheme.
>
>the theory of more tax paying modules paying tax to the governing privileged
>class means larger paychecks for the govern-0-mites and a better standard of
>living for those doing the governing.
>
>
>> Keep adding and
>> selling! Hopefully, we can develope industries of a high technological
>> type.
>
>thus was the theory behind the establishment of the RTP here in NC.
>
>
>> We have enough "marginal" citizens who are not able to compete
>> in such a society. The mestizo
>> illegal alien has an group average IQ of about 87.
>
>the word 'mestizo' actually denotes a person of mixed blood, mixed
>european and American Indian ancestry. so then if I were going to
>use that word I'd take care to define the european as the illegal
>alien. using today's international war crimes tribunal I'd even go
>so far as to levy charges against the european for their genocidal
>policies towards the American Indian. IMO
>
>
>
>> The best plan for America would be to stabilize
>> population, increase exports, and at the same time develope
>> alternative sources of enegry.
>>
>> ted
>
>ted for king in 2012 <g>

Jim, "mestizo" as understood in south and central America, including
Mexico, refers to a spanish-speaking person of DNA, appx., 80%
"indian", 10% european, and from 5 to 10% negro. The latter from the
500K negroes imported into the region. As to what happened to the
native Americans we can do nothing at this time except give aid and
encouragement. (First the reservation system caused additonal
destruction now the excess casino income continues that work) You have
the title of bill modifying immigration quotas correctly. But in the
afterwash of the Kennedy killing Ted Kennedy became the measures
spokesman. Immigration and the high birth rate of the mestizoes, legal
and illegal, are the
major factors in our population growth. As a kid I worked with the
late Sen. Gaylord Nelson and Dave
Brower, later being driving force i.e., Sierra Club. A topic of
conversation was America's ideal population. Concensus at that time,
1970, was that it should be between 175 and 200 million. We cannot
prevent others areas and nations to continue uncontrolled population
growth. But we should
consider America as sort of a nature preserve, an area in which the
ideal balance is the goal. Mother
Nature will eventually take care of surpluses.

And if appointed King in 2012 I will accept graciously.



ted

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 13:35:29 -0500, Jim wrote:
> wrote:
<...>
>> If you have any
>> environmental concerns then
>> you understand the growing problem.
>
> I am currently watching my home state of NC undergo much destruction as
> it is being overrun by people seeking a better life as they escape areas
> of extremely high unemployment as well as exorbitantly high rates of
> property taxation. watching forest after forest being mowed down is
> heart breaking.

First, imo you under-rate NC. It has enough going for it to be a
destination of choice. "Escape" makes it sound like people move there out
of desperation. As for forests being "mowed down", what do you suppose
was growing on your soybean field 150 years ago? Most of the new housing
is going up on farmland that was deforested for profit a long time ago.

Actually, you "owe" some New Yorkers for saving the Joyce Kilmer Memorial
Forest and Slickrock Wilderness Area virgin forest.

"In 1934, a New York chapter of the Veterans of Foreign Wars approached
the federal government with a petition, requesting that the government
honor Joyce Kilmer, a fallen comrade and fellow patriot with a suitable
memorial. After discussing the petition with the government, it was
decided that an appropriate memorial for the patriot poet would be a tract
of virgin forest in the eastern United States.

The U.S. Forest Service was assigned the task of finding a needle in a
haystack. A rare jewel; tuck away deep in the far reaches of western North
Carolinas mountain country. What they found was a virgin forest of
giant trees just waiting to be saved. ...

Today the Joyce Kilmer Memorial Forest and Slickrock Wilderness Area has
grown to 17,013-acres spanning into two states, the majority of the steep
forested mountains are in the Nantahala National Forest in Graham County,
North Carolina."
http://www.theblueridgehighlander.co...t/history.html

<...>

wrote:

> Jim wrote:
> wrote:
> >> Jim wrote:
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >[....]
> >> >> Amnesty, through "chain migration" will open the gates to a flood of
> >> >> low IQ third-world immigrants.
> >> >>
> >> >> ted
> >> >
> >> >so then ted, if indeed these people do have a lower IQ than yours
> >> >would that not allow the self righteous to enjoy their sense of so
> >> >called natural superiorities?
> >> >
> >> >just asking.
> >>
> >> First, I want all immigration limited. Perhaps to 100,000 per year of
> >> their "brightest and best". Now we are allowing almost a million per
> >> year of legal immigrants mostly third-worlders thanks to Ted Kennedy
> >> and his push to remove national quotas years ago.
> >
> >you are crediting the wrong democrat.
> >Emanuel Celler [D-NY] Sen. Philip Hart [D-MI]
> >http://www.ednews.org/articles/3512/...t-1/Page1.html
> >
> >I have no respect for kennedy. however when we throw rocks at him we
> >need to use the correct rocks. such as "ted kennedy's car has killed
> >more people than my firearm has."
> >
> >> If you have any
> >> environmental concerns then
> >> you understand the growing problem.
> >
> >I am currently watching my home state of NC undergo much destruction
> >as it is being overrun by people seeking a better life as they escape
> >areas of extremely high unemployment as well as exorbitantly high rates
> >of property taxation. watching forest after forest being mowed down is
> >heart breaking.
> >
> >even more heart breaking has been watching these newcomers seeking to
> >establish the same forms of government which lead to their exorbitantly
> >high rates of property taxation in their previous locations.
> >
> >
> >> For years America has operated on
> >> a sort of economic/population-growth Ponzi scheme.
> >
> >the theory of more tax paying modules paying tax to the governing privileged
> >class means larger paychecks for the govern-0-mites and a better standard of
> >living for those doing the governing.
> >
> >
> >> Keep adding and
> >> selling! Hopefully, we can develope industries of a high technological
> >> type.
> >
> >thus was the theory behind the establishment of the RTP here in NC.
> >
> >
> >> We have enough "marginal" citizens who are not able to compete
> >> in such a society. The mestizo
> >> illegal alien has an group average IQ of about 87.
> >
> >the word 'mestizo' actually denotes a person of mixed blood, mixed
> >european and American Indian ancestry. so then if I were going to
> >use that word I'd take care to define the european as the illegal
> >alien. using today's international war crimes tribunal I'd even go
> >so far as to levy charges against the european for their genocidal
> >policies towards the American Indian. IMO
> >
> >
> >
> >> The best plan for America would be to stabilize
> >> population, increase exports, and at the same time develope
> >> alternative sources of enegry.
> >>
> >> ted
> >
> >ted for king in 2012 <g>
>
> Jim, "mestizo" as understood in south and central America, including
> Mexico, refers to a spanish-speaking person of DNA, appx., 80%
> "indian", 10% european, and from 5 to 10% negro.

ok, we'll use that word "mestizo" until some lie-bi-rail crybaby shows
up and calls us racist. then I guess we'll have to seek their advice
on a proper adjective.

> The latter from the
> 500K negroes imported into the region. As to what happened to the
> native Americans we can do nothing at this time except give aid and
> encouragement.

Ted, you'd be the first person I've encountered on usenet to
say anything other than tough shit for the American Indian.
I like the Indian way of life and the best part of what they
had was how they did not have any yankees. they were well
blessed not to have yankees.

one of my favorite day dreams is to get my time machine working
go back in time and sink any and all european ships getting
anywhere close to america.


> (First the reservation system caused additonal
> destruction now the excess casino income continues that work) You have
> the title of bill modifying immigration quotas correctly. But in the
> afterwash of the Kennedy killing Ted Kennedy became the measures
> spokesman. Immigration and the high birth rate of the mestizoes, legal
> and illegal, are the
> major factors in our population growth.

the high birth rate of the mestizoes has a lot to do with how
they don't murder their children like yankees do. yankees have
their pro-choice to **** and fornicate like dogs then the yankee
pro-choice to murder the product of their **** and fornicate like
dogs.

> As a kid I worked with the
> late Sen. Gaylord Nelson and Dave
> Brower, later being driving force i.e., Sierra Club. A topic of
> conversation was America's ideal population. Concensus at that time,
> 1970, was that it should be between 175 and 200 million. We cannot
> prevent others areas and nations to continue uncontrolled population
> growth. But we should
> consider America as sort of a nature preserve, an area in which the
> ideal balance is the goal. Mother
> Nature will eventually take care of surpluses.
>
> And if appointed King in 2012 I will accept graciously.

I'll be the one lobbying you to do away with street, yard and
security lights for the reasons of how they waste energy and
destroy the beauty of the night sky. the American Indians did
not have to put up with street, yard and security lights messing
up their nights, again they were blessed.