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On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:38:15 -0700, "The Ranger"
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>Ken > wrote in message
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>> What's your rule of thumb for throwing out cooked
>> food in the refrigerator. I am never sure - if it looks
>> ok and smells ok...?

>
>Not necessarily. I find certain cooked foods (ground beef,
>fish, edamame) don't handle time very well. They break down
>quickly but don't necessarily put off a stench more than when I
>first sealed them in the package. But if I reheat them and eat
>them, I'm as likely to spend the next 24 hating life.
>
>One of my BIL can't smell anything -- even when it's gone
>ff -- so he's quite likely to eat it unless it's become
>penicillin. His internal system is much more error tolerant
>than mine (or many members of his immediate family.)
>
>My MIL's scheduled is:
>Chicken/Turkey - 2 days refrigerated (2 months frozen)
>Beef
> gb - 3 days (3 months)
> steak/roast - 4 days (3 months)
>
>Fish - 1 day (3 months)
>Pork
> sausage - 4 days (6 months)
> chops - 3 days (5 months)
> roasts - 5 days (6 months)
>Sauces -- 3 days (4 months)
>
>She hasn't experienced an upset stomach from food longer than
>I've been alive so I guess her table's pretty accurate.
>
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Your MIL must throw out a lot of perfectly good food.
And, she'll keep pork sausage longer than chops?

Ross.
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> On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:38:15 -0700, "The Ranger"
>>Pork
>> sausage - 4 days (6 months)
>> chops - 3 days (5 months)


> Your MIL must throw out a lot of perfectly good food.
> And, she'll keep pork sausage longer than chops?
>
> Ross.


Depends on the sausages. In Umbria they are so salty you can hang them in
the garage and dry them with 0% spoilage.


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> On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:38:15 -0700, "The Ranger"
> > wrote:
>>Ken > wrote in message
...
>>> What's your rule of thumb for throwing out cooked
>>> food in the refrigerator. I am never sure - if it looks
>>> ok and smells ok...?

>>
>>Not necessarily. I find certain cooked foods (ground beef,
>>fish, edamame) don't handle time very well. They break down
>>quickly but don't necessarily put off a stench more than when
>>I
>>first sealed them in the package. But if I reheat them and
>>eat
>>them, I'm as likely to spend the next 24 hating life.
>>
>>One of my BIL can't smell anything -- even when it's gone
>>ff -- so he's quite likely to eat it unless it's become
>>penicillin. His internal system is much more error tolerant
>>than mine (or many members of his immediate family.)
>>
>>My MIL's scheduled is:
>>Chicken/Turkey - 2 days refrigerated (2 months frozen)
>>Beef
>> gb - 3 days (3 months)
>> steak/roast - 4 days (3 months)
>>
>>Fish - 1 day (3 months)
>>Pork
>> sausage - 4 days (6 months)
>> chops - 3 days (5 months)
>> roasts - 5 days (6 months)
>>Sauces -- 3 days (4 months)
>>
>>She hasn't experienced an upset stomach from food longer than
>>I've been alive so I guess her table's pretty accurate.
>>

> Your MIL must throw out a lot of perfectly good food.
> And, she'll keep pork sausage longer than chops?


She's _never_ been sick or made someone sick from something she
considers questionable. I'd say that's a pretty admirable track
record. Also, if it worries her, it's not perfectly good food;
she wouldn't be able to enjoy the food "wondering" throughout
the entire meal if she was going to get sick or cause someone
to get sick. <shrug>

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> She's _never_ been sick or made someone sick from something she considers
> questionable. I'd say that's a pretty admirable track record. Also, if it
> worries her, it's not perfectly good food; she wouldn't be able to enjoy
> the food "wondering" throughout the entire meal if she was going to get
> sick or cause someone to get sick. <shrug>
>


"Never making someone sick" from one's cooking is not
a "pretty admirable track record," it is a requirement.

Jesus. Who wants to eat or serve ANYTHING that is not fresh?


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> "Never making someone sick" from one's cooking is not
> a "pretty admirable track record," it is a requirement.
>
> Jesus. Who wants to eat or serve ANYTHING that is not fresh?


Sometimes, those of us who are older than dirt, remember our
parents:

"Eat your food! There are children in China who are STARVING!" and
think we can't ever throw food out. LOL.

N.


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Nancy2 wrote:
>> "Never making someone sick" from one's cooking is not
>> a "pretty admirable track record," it is a requirement.
>>
>> Jesus. Who wants to eat or serve ANYTHING that is not fresh?

>
> Sometimes, those of us who are older than dirt, remember our
> parents:
>
> "Eat your food! There are children in China who are STARVING!" and
> think we can't ever throw food out. LOL.
>
> N.


Is aged cheese "fresh"? How about aged beef?
Many things are improved when prepared and then reheated. Stews and
chili often improve for example. Are they un-fresh?
What exactly *is* the definition of fresh?? A fruit or veg picked off
the plant the same day of eating...does that make one purchased days
after picking "un-fresh"??
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On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:21:36 -0400, Goomba >
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>Nancy2 wrote:
>>> "Never making someone sick" from one's cooking is not
>>> a "pretty admirable track record," it is a requirement.
>>>
>>> Jesus. Who wants to eat or serve ANYTHING that is not fresh?

>>
>> Sometimes, those of us who are older than dirt, remember our
>> parents:
>>
>> "Eat your food! There are children in China who are STARVING!" and
>> think we can't ever throw food out. LOL.
>>
>> N.

>
>Is aged cheese "fresh"? How about aged beef?
>Many things are improved when prepared and then reheated. Stews and
>chili often improve for example. Are they un-fresh?
>What exactly *is* the definition of fresh?? A fruit or veg picked off
>the plant the same day of eating...does that make one purchased days
>after picking "un-fresh"??


you mustn't pick the fruit off the tree, but instead climb the tree
and eat it there. true, it causes the tree excruciating pain, but
them's the breaks if you're a lower life form.

your pal,
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On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:07:06 -0400, "cybercat" >
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>"The Ranger" > wrote
>>
>> She's _never_ been sick or made someone sick from something she considers
>> questionable. I'd say that's a pretty admirable track record. Also, if it
>> worries her, it's not perfectly good food; she wouldn't be able to enjoy
>> the food "wondering" throughout the entire meal if she was going to get
>> sick or cause someone to get sick. <shrug>
>>

>
>"Never making someone sick" from one's cooking is not
>a "pretty admirable track record," it is a requirement.
>
>Jesus. Who wants to eat or serve ANYTHING that is not fresh?
>


you don't eat all the meat you make for sandwiches on the day you cook
it, do you?

your pal,
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[Using Blake's post. -- TR]

> On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:07:06 -0400, "cybertwit"
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>> "Never making someone sick" from one's cooking
>> is not a "pretty admirable track record," it is a
>> requirement.
>>
>> Jesus. Who wants to eat or serve ANYTHING
>> that is not fresh?


I should have known cybertwit was the know-nothing idiot that
posted this.

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> [Using Blake's post. -- TR]
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>> On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:07:06 -0400, "cybertwit" >
>> wrote:
>>> "Never making someone sick" from one's cooking
>>> is not a "pretty admirable track record," it is a
>>> requirement.
>>>
>>> Jesus. Who wants to eat or serve ANYTHING
>>> that is not fresh?

>
> I should have known cybertwit was the know-nothing idiot that posted this.
>


I love you, too, dickcheese.

Again, why the hell would ANYONE want to eat or serve ANYTHING that is not
fresh? This is not the 3rd ****ing world. Or, maybe it is at your house.




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On Jun 7, 9:45 am, "cybertwit" > pewled off-key:
> Again, why the hell would ANYONE want to eat or serve
> ANYTHING that is not fresh? [..]


Are you really this stupid or do you enjoy making yourself look like
an idiot? (I already know the answer.)
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"blake murphy" > wrote in message
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> On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:07:06 -0400, "cybercat" >
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>
>>
>>"The Ranger" > wrote
>>>
>>> She's _never_ been sick or made someone sick from something she
>>> considers
>>> questionable. I'd say that's a pretty admirable track record. Also, if
>>> it
>>> worries her, it's not perfectly good food; she wouldn't be able to enjoy
>>> the food "wondering" throughout the entire meal if she was going to get
>>> sick or cause someone to get sick. <shrug>
>>>

>>
>>"Never making someone sick" from one's cooking is not
>>a "pretty admirable track record," it is a requirement.
>>
>>Jesus. Who wants to eat or serve ANYTHING that is not fresh?
>>

>
> you don't eat all the meat you make for sandwiches on the day you cook
> it, do you?
>


Already covered this, had you read the entire thread or at the very least my
other comment in it. (Please pass this on to Goomba the Mouthbreather, too.)

If it is a dish I cooked, after four days max, it's gone. If you look at any
reputable food saftey information, that's a really good idea bacteria wise,
but I do it because I like fresh food.

Soups and stews are often better the second day. They are still gone by the
fourth.

What else is there? Condiments are kept until the "use by" date, unless I
feel they've been in there too long. Fruit juices, used within four days.
Eggs keep forever, but if I break one in the pan and it is too flat I might
toss it.

My sainted MIL sent over some oatmeal bars, allegedly to help with her son's
high cholesterol. The "use by" date had expired over a year earlier.

Keeping stuff too long is just musty old lady crap. Or for old geezers with
pee stains in their underwear. Or idiots like Goomba who don't know any
better and think they have a God-given right to be right.

Well, I guess that about covers it. I'm off to brighten some more lives.


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On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 12:54:45 -0400, "cybercat" >
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>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:07:06 -0400, "cybercat" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"The Ranger" > wrote
>>>>
>>>> She's _never_ been sick or made someone sick from something she
>>>> considers
>>>> questionable. I'd say that's a pretty admirable track record. Also, if
>>>> it
>>>> worries her, it's not perfectly good food; she wouldn't be able to enjoy
>>>> the food "wondering" throughout the entire meal if she was going to get
>>>> sick or cause someone to get sick. <shrug>
>>>>
>>>
>>>"Never making someone sick" from one's cooking is not
>>>a "pretty admirable track record," it is a requirement.
>>>
>>>Jesus. Who wants to eat or serve ANYTHING that is not fresh?
>>>

>>
>> you don't eat all the meat you make for sandwiches on the day you cook
>> it, do you?
>>

>
>Already covered this, had you read the entire thread or at the very least my
>other comment in it. (Please pass this on to Goomba the Mouthbreather, too.)
>
>If it is a dish I cooked, after four days max, it's gone. If you look at any
>reputable food saftey information, that's a really good idea bacteria wise,
>but I do it because I like fresh food.
>
>Soups and stews are often better the second day. They are still gone by the
>fourth.
>


well, o.k., then. i might push it to six days, but same thing.

>What else is there? Condiments are kept until the "use by" date, unless I
>feel they've been in there too long. Fruit juices, used within four days.
>Eggs keep forever, but if I break one in the pan and it is too flat I might
>toss it.
>

condiments vary. stuff that's mostly salt or vinegar might live past
the 'use by' if they look o.k. usually those dates say '*best* if
used by,' not 'you're gonna die.' they're usually stuffed with
preservatives anyway.

>My sainted MIL sent over some oatmeal bars, allegedly to help with her son's
>high cholesterol. The "use by" date had expired over a year earlier.
>


yeah, stuff like that just gets nasty.

your pal,
blake
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