Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Tue 03 Jun 2008 01:57:12p, Greg Esres told us...
>
>> a god in human form wrote:
>>
>> <<an old sheet covers the floor, and thick towels bought for the
>> purpose, cover the majority of counter space, or at least the area
>> I'm working in. >>
>>
>> I am in awe.
>>
>
> It saves me great angst. I am much too anal to contemplate the
> cleaning of a totally messed up kitchen. :-)

But then you have to wash the sheet and all those towels, don't you?

Jill

"jmcquown" wrote:
> Duh'Wayne Pinocchio Boatwright wrote:
> > Greg Esres told us...
>
> >> a god in human form wrote:
>
> >> <<an old sheet covers the floor, and thick towels bought for the
> >> purpose, cover the majority of counter space, or at least the area
> >> I'm working in. >>
>
> >> I am in awe.
>
> > It saves me great angst. �I am much too anal to contemplate the
> > cleaning of a totally messed up kitchen. :-)
>
> But then you have to wash the sheet and all those towels, don't you?

No one with a functioning brain believes that ridiculous "I can top
anything" bar room prevaricator.

On Tue 03 Jun 2008 02:21:03p, jmcquown told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Tue 03 Jun 2008 01:57:12p, Greg Esres told us...
>>
>>> a god in human form wrote:
>>>
>>> <<an old sheet covers the floor, and thick towels bought for the
>>> purpose, cover the majority of counter space, or at least the area
>>> I'm working in. >>
>>>
>>> I am in awe.
>>>
>>
>> It saves me great angst. I am much too anal to contemplate the
>> cleaning of a totally messed up kitchen. :-)
>
> But then you have to wash the sheet and all those towels, don't you?
>
> Jill
>
>
>

One load in an automatic washer and dryer beats the hell out of scrubbing.
:-)

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"Wayne Boatwright" > ha scritto nel messaggio

> Let me start by saying that I have always had a dishwasher and, on
> occasion, two. I despise having to scour things, even the counters. If
> I'm doing any major cooking, an old sheet covers the floor, and thick
> towels bought for the purpose, cover the majority of counter space, or at
> least the area I'm working in. As I use something and know I'm done with
> it, it does immediately into the dishwasher. I also use the mise en place
> method of preparation, so little is left to chance or last minute effort
> apart from the final cooking. I use a large tray to hold all the
> implements I'll be using frequently. Cleanup is a breeze. The sheet and
> towels head for the washing machine, everything else goes in the
> dishwasher, and I'm left with very little except wiping down the sink and
> range. I'd much rather take great pains to prevent a mess than to clean
> one up.
> Wayne Boatwright

Honey, you are seriously wierd! I couldn't even get through one home meal
with that arrangement, let alone do any pro cooking-- I think it would be
illegal, anyway.

This sounds like using condoms on everything cookery-wise. As far as I go
is using surgical gloves for handling raw meat. Right off the top of my
head innumerable operations that wouldn't work come to mind, like rolling
pasta, rolling pastry, kneading.

Kitchen surfaces are made impermeable and easy to clean for a reason.

On Wed 04 Jun 2008 12:34:17a, Giusi told us...

>
>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>
>> Let me start by saying that I have always had a dishwasher and, on
>> occasion, two. I despise having to scour things, even the counters.
>> If I'm doing any major cooking, an old sheet covers the floor, and
>> thick towels bought for the purpose, cover the majority of counter
>> space, or at least the area I'm working in. As I use something and
>> know I'm done with it, it does immediately into the dishwasher. I also
>> use the mise en place method of preparation, so little is left to
>> chance or last minute effort apart from the final cooking. I use a
>> large tray to hold all the implements I'll be using frequently.
>> Cleanup is a breeze. The sheet and towels head for the washing
>> machine, everything else goes in the dishwasher, and I'm left with very
>> little except wiping down the sink and range. I'd much rather take
>> great pains to prevent a mess than to clean one up.
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
> Honey, you are seriously wierd! I couldn't even get through one home
> meal with that arrangement, let alone do any pro cooking-- I think it
> would be illegal, anyway.

LOL! Yes, I am seriously wierd when it comes to preventing cleaning
problems. I couldn't agree more, but it works for me. It obviously
wouldn't work for pro cooking, but that's not what I do.

> This sounds like using condoms on everything cookery-wise. As far as I
> go is using surgical gloves for handling raw meat. Right off the top of
> my head innumerable operations that wouldn't work come to mind, like
> rolling pasta, rolling pastry, kneading.

I don't make homemade pasta, but I do make a lot of various pastries and
breads. In that event, I have one large work area that's uncovered for the
purpose of rolling pastry dough and kneading bread. I expect to have to
scrub the counter after those operations. I also use surgical gloves for
handling raw meat.

> Kitchen surfaces are made impermeable and easy to clean for a reason.

Absolutely true. I'd just rather throw a load of things in the washer than
scrub all the surfaces in the kitchen after cooking a major meal.



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Of *COURSE* I'm on topic. (Which echo
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"Wayne Boatwright" > ha scritto

>> Kitchen surfaces are made impermeable and easy to clean for a reason.
>
> Absolutely true. I'd just rather throw a load of things in the washer
> than
> scrub all the surfaces in the kitchen after cooking a major meal.
> Wayne Boatwright

I don't have to scrub surfaces much. Dough sticks, but I use the dough
scraper and then wash with a cloth. The rest is pretty easy washup. I
work on lots of different surfaces in the various kitchens I find myself in,
and the only ones I find difficult are shiny stainless and black glass.

On Wed 04 Jun 2008 05:32:22a, Giusi told us...

> "Wayne Boatwright" > ha scritto
>
>>> Kitchen surfaces are made impermeable and easy to clean for a reason.
>>
>> Absolutely true. I'd just rather throw a load of things in the washer
>> than scrub all the surfaces in the kitchen after cooking a major meal.
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
> I don't have to scrub surfaces much. Dough sticks, but I use the dough
> scraper and then wash with a cloth. The rest is pretty easy washup. I
> work on lots of different surfaces in the various kitchens I find myself
> in, and the only ones I find difficult are shiny stainless and black
> glass.

I would guess that your own cooking situation(s) is far different from
mine. I rarely cook for more than two people and it's always in the same
kitchen.

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ChattyCathy wrote:
> While I was putting dinner on tonight it made me think about 'messy

>
> So what kind of cook are you? The 'clean up as you go along' type or the
> 'do it all in one go when you're finished' type? Or somewhere in between?
> Just wonderin'.
>

I agree with Dimitri--stopping after each item needs washing is brain
damage and I'd never get a meal on the table that way.

It depends on what I'm cooking, how long it takes, what the sides are,
etc. If it's a big holiday meal, I'm definitely in chaos trying to get
everything done at once and on the table while it's still hot and fresh.
Luckily my daughter (who is NOT a messy cook) cleans up after me while
I'm preparing if she and her family are among the guests. This works
very, very well.

Except for holiday meals or entertaining, I do clean up immediately
after the last item is prepped and cooking, all at once.

gloria p

"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
...
> While I was putting dinner on tonight it made me think about 'messy
> cooks'...
>
> I clean up as I go along, and so does DH - however, when Dad gets 'let
> loose' in the kitchen he seems to use every pot, pan, dish, knife, fork
> spoon in the place - in fact the kitchen usually looks like a 'war zone'
> to me by the time the food is ready. Even tho' he always 'washes up'
> afterwards, it still drives me nuts.
>
> So what kind of cook are you? The 'clean up as you go along' type or the
> 'do it all in one go when you're finished' type? Or somewhere in between?
> Just wonderin'.
>
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy
>
> Egg tastes better when it's not on your face...

Clean as I go. My kitchen is very small....Sharon

On Tue 03 Jun 2008 01:49:37p, biig told us...

>
> "ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> While I was putting dinner on tonight it made me think about 'messy
>> cooks'...
>>
>> I clean up as I go along, and so does DH - however, when Dad gets 'let
>> loose' in the kitchen he seems to use every pot, pan, dish, knife, fork
>> spoon in the place - in fact the kitchen usually looks like a 'war zone'
>> to me by the time the food is ready. Even tho' he always 'washes up'
>> afterwards, it still drives me nuts.
>>
>> So what kind of cook are you? The 'clean up as you go along' type or the
>> 'do it all in one go when you're finished' type? Or somewhere in
between?
>> Just wonderin'.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers
>> Chatty Cathy
>>
>> Egg tastes better when it's not on your face...
>
> Clean as I go. My kitchen is very small....Sharon
>
>
>

Hence,you could only create a very small mess? :-)

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Friends often desert you in time of
need. Enemies can be found anytime you
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ChattyCathy wrote:

> While I was putting dinner on tonight it made me think about 'messy
> cooks'...
>
> I clean up as I go along, and so does DH - however, when Dad gets 'let
> loose' in the kitchen he seems to use every pot, pan, dish, knife, fork
> spoon in the place - in fact the kitchen usually looks like a 'war zone'
> to me by the time the food is ready. Even tho' he always 'washes up'
> afterwards, it still drives me nuts.
>
> So what kind of cook are you? The 'clean up as you go along' type or the
> 'do it all in one go when you're finished' type? Or somewhere in between?
> Just wonderin'.

I confess that I am not good at cleaning up as I go along, but I have a good
arrangement with my wife. She is willing to clean up if I do the cooking.
However, I am economical in the use of tools and utensils. I will wipe of
knives and rwipe out pots and bowls and use them for something else. I
cannot do the reverse for my wife. It is too frustrating. If she has three
different things to cut she uses at least three different knives and three
different cutting boards. Anything required to prepare a dish, she will use
at least two. It results in a hell of a lot of extra stuff to wash and loss
of counter space and room in the sink. Arghh!!!!

ChattyCathy > wrote in
:

> So what kind of cook are you? The 'clean up as you go along' type or
> the 'do it all in one go when you're finished' type? Or somewhere in
> between? Just wonderin'.

I tend to clean what needs to be cleaned to make space (we have a
restricted counter area) but when I'm finished serving, the last thing
may remain where it was last placed.

My wife, on the other hand, needs the entire space of the kitchen to
make a simple cake for which she needs her standard cookbook.
Afterwards, the sink will be filled with dirty bowls, pots, and a few
things that really are not needed for mixing ingredients for a cake but
which she can never actually explain...but this is the person who thinks
the pasta fork is a great salad fork too because she wants to serve
salad with only one hand (don't ask).

The mess she can deal with, but I can't hack it when she gets an idea to
bake a cake when I'm in the middle of preparing a meal for six. A few
years ago, facing a Christmas dinner for eight, I told her she had to
get her baking done the day before. She did and that worked out
beautifully. Unfortunately, that isn't always the case.

Me, I make a cake from a mix of organic wheat free ingredients, add an
egg and a cup of soy milk, mix, pour into a greased round pan used for
that only and Bob's yer uncle. Good enough for folk music, and I only
need to clean one bowl and a wooden spoon. I don't get why it's
necessary to make such a mess. One of these days, I should get her to
walk me through it.

ChattyCathy > wrote in
:

> While I was putting dinner on tonight it made me think about
> 'messy cooks'...
>
> I clean up as I go along, and so does DH - however, when Dad
> gets 'let loose' in the kitchen he seems to use every pot,
> pan, dish, knife, fork spoon in the place - in fact the
> kitchen usually looks like a 'war zone' to me by the time the
> food is ready. Even tho' he always 'washes up' afterwards, it
> still drives me nuts.
>
> So what kind of cook are you? The 'clean up as you go along'
> type or the 'do it all in one go when you're finished' type?
> Or somewhere in between? Just wonderin'.

Clean up as I go. If I had a big kitchen, I would be a slob.

sandi wrote:
> ChattyCathy wrote:
> >
> > While I was putting dinner on tonight it made me think about
> > 'messy cooks'...
>
> > I clean up as I go along, and so does DH - however, when Dad
> > gets 'let loose' in the kitchen he seems to use every pot,
> > pan, dish, knife, fork spoon in the place - in fact the
> > kitchen usually looks like a 'war zone' to me by the time the
> > food is ready. Even tho' he always 'washes up' afterwards, it
> > still drives me nuts.
>
> > So what kind of cook are you? The 'clean up as you go along'
> > type or the 'do it all in one go when you're finished' type?
> > Or somewhere in between? Just wonderin'.
>
> Clean up as I go. �If I had a big kitchen, I would be a slob.

Nope... if you're essentially neat that means you're organized... if
you had a larger kithen you'd become even more organized, therefore
you'd become an even neater cook.

People who cook slovenly are slobs in all aspects of their lives and
are notoriously disorganized in all aspects of their lives. The
disorganized slobs can no more suddenly become organized and neat than
you can suddenly become disorganized and a slob.

Crud outside the pot is highly indicative of crud inside the pot...
it's best not to eat food prepared in a messy kitchen.

It's real easy to tell who are the filthy dirty cooks from how they
don't trim and neaten their posts.... leopards don't change their
spots, once a slob always a slob.... there are very few posters here
who I'd want to eat from their kitchen.

TrenchMouth > wrote:
> The message
> >
> from Sheldon > contains these words:
>
> > It's real easy to tell who are the filthy dirty cooks from how they
> > don't trim and neaten their posts....
>
> � So, what �about the cookery skills of �an author whose posts are
> filthy and tasteless?
>
> � �Janet

You obviously never learned to flush, lookit all that excretia you
left up there... Janet, you are a filthy dirty slob... and being in
the UK I'm positive you're a sewer mouth -- literally -- you've never
been to a dentist and you don't own a toothbrush... all UKers have
miserable maws, even your Queen Bitch has a rotten fetid mouth.

> wrote:
>
>
> � � Sheldon is a shit cook.
> � �Janet Hide

I cooked you.

Sheldon wrote:

> > wrote:
>
> > � � Sheldon is a shit cook.
> > � �Janet Hide
>
> I cooked you.


Madame BaraCOUGH aka Madame Pants - Without - Sin prolly gets her
water supply from the sewer mains emitting from O' Feel Up's caravan
aka trailor park...thus her rotten teeth - and *mind*...!!!

In any case we have some real "flowers" of English womanhood here...if
they were roses they'd be a bunch of dead thorns...

<chuckle>


--
Best
Greg

On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 19:35:23 +0100, Janet Baraclough
> wrote:

>The message
>
>from Sheldon > contains these words:
>
>> TrenchMouth > wrote:
>> > The message
>> > >
>> > from Sheldon > contains these words:
>> >
>> > > It's real easy to tell who are the filthy dirty cooks from how they
>> > > don't trim and neaten their posts....
>> >
>> > So, what about the cookery skills of an author whose posts are
>> > filthy and tasteless?
>> >
>> >Janet
>
>> You obviously never learned to flush, lookit all that excretia you
>> left up there... Janet, you are a filthy dirty slob... and being in
>> the UK I'm positive you're a sewer mouth -- literally -- you've never
>> been to a dentist and you don't own a toothbrush... all UKers have
>> miserable maws, even your Queen Bitch has a rotten fetid mouth.
>
> Sheldon is a shit cook. Q.E.D
>
> Janet

no. i heard he eats it raw.

your pal,
blake

On Wed 04 Jun 2008 08:44:35a, Janet Baraclough told us...

> The message
> >
> from Sheldon > contains these words:
>
>
>> It's real easy to tell who are the filthy dirty cooks from how they
>> don't trim and neaten their posts....
>
> So, what about the cookery skills of an author whose posts are
> filthy and tasteless?
>
> Janet

Considering the source, probably filthy and tasteless.

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ChattyCathy wrote:
>
> While I was putting dinner on tonight it made me think about 'messy
> cooks'...
>
> I clean up as I go along, and so does DH - however, when Dad gets 'let
> loose' in the kitchen he seems to use every pot, pan, dish, knife, fork
> spoon in the place - in fact the kitchen usually looks like a 'war zone'
> to me by the time the food is ready. Even tho' he always 'washes up'
> afterwards, it still drives me nuts.
>
> So what kind of cook are you? The 'clean up as you go along' type or the
> 'do it all in one go when you're finished' type? Or somewhere in between?
> Just wonderin'.
>
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy

Clean as I go. Having worked in restaurants and doing private catering,
there wasn't ever anyone else to clean up after me
>
> Egg tastes better when it's not on your face...

"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
...
> While I was putting dinner on tonight it made me think about 'messy
> cooks'...
> So what kind of cook are you? The 'clean up as you go along' type or the
> 'do it all in one go when you're finished' type? Or somewhere in between?
> Just wonderin'.
>
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy

I don't clean as I go but I'm not a messy cook to start with. If I'm
cooking, I'm cooking. When I'm cleaning, I'm cleaning.

Ms P

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:27:33 +0200, ChattyCathy
> fired up random neurons and synapses to
opine:

>While I was putting dinner on tonight it made me think about 'messy
>cooks'...
>
>I clean up as I go along, and so does DH - however, when Dad gets 'let
>loose' in the kitchen he seems to use every pot, pan, dish, knife, fork
>spoon in the place - in fact the kitchen usually looks like a 'war zone'
>to me by the time the food is ready. Even tho' he always 'washes up'
>afterwards, it still drives me nuts.
>
>So what kind of cook are you? The 'clean up as you go along' type or the
>'do it all in one go when you're finished' type? Or somewhere in between?
>Just wonderin'.

This is going to sound absolutely hilarious, but if I don't need to
reuse a utensil, pot, whatever during the preparation of whatever it
is I'm preparing, I pretty much wait until the end for one big
cleaning push and for a strange/vain reason: having my nails go from
wet to dry and wet to dry and wet to dry ruins my manicure :-)

--

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

"Some weasel took the cork out of my lunch!"

-- W.C. Fields

Michael "Dog3" wrote:

> ROFL. I'm a clean as you go person. To me there is almost nothing worse
> than preparing a nice meal and for dessert having to clean the kitchen

My mother taught me the clean as you go method. It works well for me.
Otherwise I lose stuff in the clutter.


--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life