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They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind I
give her to keep the hairballs at bay. Ms P |
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On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us...
> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind I > give her to keep the hairballs at bay. > > Ms P I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as my internet address. Phone number is optional, and I don't give it. It's definitely had its benefits from time to time. -- Wayne Boatwright ------------------------------------------- Saturday, 04(IV)/19(XIX)/08(MMVIII) ------------------------------------------- Countdown till Memorial Day 5wks 1dys 14hrs 20mins ------------------------------------------- You took my breath away and now I want it back. ------------------------------------------- |
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Wayne Boatwright wrote: > > On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us... > > > They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind I > > give her to keep the hairballs at bay. > > > > Ms P > > I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as my internet address. > Phone number is optional, and I don't give it. It's definitely had its > benefits from time to time. I give bogus info or no info for practically everything. I haven't missed anything of value, and the pet supply stores have been known to give out free sample bag of stuff in the store anyway. The Albertson's all dropped their store cards as well. |
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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us... > >> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind I >> give her to keep the hairballs at bay. >> >> Ms P > > I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as my internet address. > Phone number is optional, and I don't give it. It's definitely had its > benefits from time to time. > I get a lot of coupons from Kroger because of their little keyfob card thingie. Often it will be for a few dollars off a certain amount of purchase but they often expire before I think to use them! They're only valid a couple of weeks tops. What a waste! |
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On Sat 19 Apr 2008 10:50:08a, Goomba38 told us...
> Wayne Boatwright wrote: >> On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us... >> >>> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind >>> I give her to keep the hairballs at bay. >>> >>> Ms P >> >> I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as my internet >> address. Phone number is optional, and I don't give it. It's >> definitely had its benefits from time to time. >> > I get a lot of coupons from Kroger because of their little keyfob card > thingie. Often it will be for a few dollars off a certain amount of > purchase but they often expire before I think to use them! They're only > valid a couple of weeks tops. What a waste! > Whenever I get a "dolars off" coupon from Fry's, be it $3, $5, and sometimes even $10, I make damn sure I don't go past the expirationd date. I can't afford not to. -- Wayne Boatwright ------------------------------------------- Saturday, 04(IV)/19(XIX)/08(MMVIII) ------------------------------------------- Countdown till Memorial Day 5wks 1dys 13hrs 10mins ------------------------------------------- CAT RULE #8: Add roughage to human's food by shedding on it. ------------------------------------------- |
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"Pete C." > wrote > I give bogus info or no info for practically everything. I haven't > missed anything of value, and the pet supply stores have been known to > give out free sample bag of stuff in the store anyway. The Albertson's > all dropped their store cards as well. My store is part of the Albertson's chain, I don't see signs of them getting rid of the card. Wonder if they will. nancy |
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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message 3.184... > On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us... > >> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind I >> give her to keep the hairballs at bay. >> >> Ms P > > I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as my internet > address. > Phone number is optional, and I don't give it. It's definitely had its > benefits from time to time. I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I helped them do it. Now what they will do with that info I do not know but they most definitely keep a history of everything you buy and when and where too. It's hugely valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot of money for it. I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to fill out the form to get the card. Just tell them you won't but you want the card anyway. They have to provide it. I've seen first hand the info they keep on people and it is pretty scary what they know about you. Paul |
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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message ... > > "Pete C." > wrote > >> I give bogus info or no info for practically everything. I haven't >> missed anything of value, and the pet supply stores have been known to >> give out free sample bag of stuff in the store anyway. The Albertson's >> all dropped their store cards as well. > > My store is part of the Albertson's chain, I don't see signs of them > getting rid of the card. Wonder if they will. I have a card and use it every time I go. Paul |
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"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message news:rMtOj.224$pn4.104@trnddc03... > > "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message > 3.184... >> On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us... >> >>> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind I >>> give her to keep the hairballs at bay. >>> >>> Ms P >> >> I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as my internet >> address. >> Phone number is optional, and I don't give it. It's definitely had its >> benefits from time to time. > > > I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I helped them do it. > Now what they will do with that info I do not know but they most > definitely keep a history of everything you buy and when and where too. > It's hugely valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot of > money for it. > > I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to fill out the > form to get the card. Just tell them you won't but you want the card > anyway. They have to provide it. > > I've seen first hand the info they keep on people and it is pretty scary > what they know about you. > > Paul Well, they know I buy Purina Naturals in the smallest bag. That means they could send me a free sample of a new Purina dry cat food. They also know everything else I buy and send me targeted coupons for things like Daisy sour cream and money off frozen foods and meats. Stores and companies are going to advertize to you like it or not. Might as well let them advertize stuff to you you're actually likely to use. Ms P |
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Paul M. Cook wrote:
> > I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I helped them do it. Now > what they will do with that info I do not know but they most definitely keep > a history of everything you buy and when and where too. It's hugely > valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot of money for it. > > I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to fill out the form > to get the card. Just tell them you won't but you want the card anyway. > They have to provide it. I am not sure why they would have to provide a purchase tracking ID card to you if you decline to give them your information. I have only tried a few times and in each case they demanded identification and refused to issued the purchase tracking ID card when I refused to give them my driver's license. It really isn't a big deal anyway because we buy most of our stuff at a market that doesn't believe in all of the nonsense of "bananas $3.95/lb or $0.49/lb with purchase ID tracking card". They simply sell you the bananas (or whatever) at a good price without invading your privacy. > > I've seen first hand the info they keep on people and it is pretty scary > what they know about you. > > Paul > > Agree, you don't realize how much information is amassed on everyone until you see "behind the curtain". |
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"Ms P" > wrote in message ... > > "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message > news:rMtOj.224$pn4.104@trnddc03... >> >> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >> 3.184... >>> On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us... >>> >>>> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind >>>> I >>>> give her to keep the hairballs at bay. >>>> >>>> Ms P >>> >>> I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as my internet >>> address. >>> Phone number is optional, and I don't give it. It's definitely had its >>> benefits from time to time. >> >> >> I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I helped them do it. >> Now what they will do with that info I do not know but they most >> definitely keep a history of everything you buy and when and where too. >> It's hugely valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot of >> money for it. >> >> I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to fill out the >> form to get the card. Just tell them you won't but you want the card >> anyway. They have to provide it. >> >> I've seen first hand the info they keep on people and it is pretty scary >> what they know about you. >> >> Paul > > > Well, they know I buy Purina Naturals in the smallest bag. That means > they could send me a free sample of a new Purina dry cat food. > > They also know everything else I buy and send me targeted coupons for > things like Daisy sour cream and money off frozen foods and meats. > > Stores and companies are going to advertize to you like it or not. Might > as well let them advertize stuff to you you're actually likely to use. What you are seeing more and more of is data mining. Stores have a huge record of your purchases. What I fear is when they start supplying this info to say, insurance companies. They can use that as a basis for coverage when you are a cardiac patient and they see you buy a lot of butter. And before it gets written off as a CT, think of how banks, credit agencies and medical insures now all share common databases. Some people are being denied health care becaiuse of their less than perfect income levels and credit scores, presumably because they don't eat well either. One reason I don't do that work anymore is because it just made me ill thinking of the potential for abuse. Paul |
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"George" > wrote in message ... > Paul M. Cook wrote: > >> >> I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I helped them do it. >> Now what they will do with that info I do not know but they most >> definitely keep a history of everything you buy and when and where too. >> It's hugely valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot of >> money for it. >> >> I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to fill out the >> form to get the card. Just tell them you won't but you want the card >> anyway. They have to provide it. > > I am not sure why they would have to provide a purchase tracking ID card > to you if you decline to give them your information. I have only tried a > few times and in each case they demanded identification and refused to > issued the purchase tracking ID card when I refused to give them my > driver's license. > You can state that there is a federal law prohibiting them from doing this. They have no right to demand your ID. Period. You can legally write down that your name is Jose Cuervo or Jim Beam and make up a fake ID number. They cannot ask you for your ID. They can only ask to see proof of ID if you are writing a check and then it can only be a bank card with your name on it. When I got my Albertson's card, I simply got the card and the app, said I'd bring the app back next time, they said no, I said I am entitled to do that and they said OK. So I have an anonymous card. Paul |
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Ms P > wrote:
> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind I > give her to keep the hairballs at bay. So how is the grocery store selling your address and buying habits to marketers an advantage? I'd bet it wasn't the grocery store that sent you that sample of cat food. (And how do you know it's close to the same stuff you currently buy - did you taste them?) -sw |
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George wrote:
> Paul M. Cook wrote: > > >> I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I helped them do it. >> Now what they will do with that info I do not know but they most >> definitely keep a history of everything you buy and when and where too. >> It's hugely valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot of >> money for it. >> >> I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to fill out the >> form to get the card. Just tell them you won't but you want the card >> anyway. They have to provide it. > > I am not sure why they would have to provide a purchase tracking ID card > to you if you decline to give them your information. I doubt that they have to. I think when they do it's simply to keep from ****ing off a customer (remember the "customer is always right" bullshit), even it's one they can't identify; even an anonymous customer's money is money. > I have only tried a few times and in each case they demanded > identification and refused to issued the purchase tracking ID card when > I refused to give them my driver's license. Seems like that's their right; it's their program -- their offer to give you reduced prices. Same idea as Coscto: Want this? Trade us for that. In the cases at hand, it's information. In the Costco case, it's that information *and cash*. If one's afraid of the grocery club card idea, they should also be refusing to be a Costco member; but most probably don't think that far into the idea. -- Blinky Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org Blinky: http://blinkynet.net |
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"Blinky the Shark" > wrote in message ynet.net... > George wrote: > >> Paul M. Cook wrote: >> >> >>> I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I helped them do it. >>> Now what they will do with that info I do not know but they most >>> definitely keep a history of everything you buy and when and where too. >>> It's hugely valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot of >>> money for it. >>> >>> I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to fill out the >>> form to get the card. Just tell them you won't but you want the card >>> anyway. They have to provide it. >> >> I am not sure why they would have to provide a purchase tracking ID card >> to you if you decline to give them your information. > > I doubt that they have to. I think when they do it's simply to keep from > ****ing off a customer (remember the "customer is always right" bullshit), > even it's one they can't identify; even an anonymous customer's money is > money. > >> I have only tried a few times and in each case they demanded >> identification and refused to issued the purchase tracking ID card when >> I refused to give them my driver's license. > > Seems like that's their right; it's their program -- their offer to give > you reduced prices. Same idea as Coscto: Want this? Trade us for that. > In the cases at hand, it's information. In the Costco case, it's that > information *and cash*. If one's afraid of the grocery club card idea, > they should also be refusing to be a Costco member; but most probably > don't think that far into the idea. Last I heard they wanted to merge their ATM purchase records with your club card purchases. That way they could attach a person to the purchase. So they get you one way or another. But trust me, they want that info and you have to wonder why. Paul |
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George > wrote:
> It really isn't a big deal anyway because we buy most of our stuff at a > market that doesn't believe in all of the nonsense of "bananas $3.95/lb > or $0.49/lb with purchase ID tracking card". They simply sell you the > bananas (or whatever) at a good price without invading your privacy. We have one store in town that uses the cards (the other went out of business). While I'm using a card I found out in the parking lot that does not print a name on the receipt, they are getting valuable feedback from my use of the card: That I spend less than $60/year there and think their store sucks. The rest of my shopping is done at a real store. BTW: All research shows that you pay *more* for groceries at a Loyalty Card store. These programs are not free to initiate and maintain. The ROI by selling your spending habits to marketers is never reflected back into the price of your groceries. Even with the $.21 worth of cat food. -sw |
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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message ... > Ms P > wrote: > >> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind I >> give her to keep the hairballs at bay. > > So how is the grocery store selling your address and buying habits > to marketers an advantage? > > I'd bet it wasn't the grocery store that sent you that sample of cat > food. > > (And how do you know it's close to the same stuff you currently buy > - did you taste them?) > > -sw The box said "a free gift from Dillon's" that's how I know it was from the grocery store. I know it's close to the same stuff I already buy because I read the label. Ms P |
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Nancy Young wrote: > > "Pete C." > wrote > > > I give bogus info or no info for practically everything. I haven't > > missed anything of value, and the pet supply stores have been known to > > give out free sample bag of stuff in the store anyway. The Albertson's > > all dropped their store cards as well. > > My store is part of the Albertson's chain, I don't see signs of them > getting rid of the card. Wonder if they will. > > nancy Interesting, here the two Albertsons I frequent both dropped the cards, and they have little promo signs around that say "No cards - No hassles" or something like that. I expected it was a corporate thing and covered all of them. |
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Goomba38 wrote: > > Wayne Boatwright wrote: > > On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us... > > > >> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind I > >> give her to keep the hairballs at bay. > >> > >> Ms P > > > > I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as my internet address. > > Phone number is optional, and I don't give it. It's definitely had its > > benefits from time to time. > > > I get a lot of coupons from Kroger because of their little keyfob card > thingie. Often it will be for a few dollars off a certain amount of > purchase but they often expire before I think to use them! They're only > valid a couple of weeks tops. What a waste! I often get coupons like that from the coupon printer at the checkout. |
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Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Ms P" > wrote in message > ... >> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message >> news:rMtOj.224$pn4.104@trnddc03... >>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >>> 3.184... >>>> On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us... >>>> >>>>> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind >>>>> I >>>>> give her to keep the hairballs at bay. >>>>> >>>>> Ms P >>>> I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as my internet >>>> address. >>>> Phone number is optional, and I don't give it. It's definitely had its >>>> benefits from time to time. >>> >>> I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I helped them do it. >>> Now what they will do with that info I do not know but they most >>> definitely keep a history of everything you buy and when and where too. >>> It's hugely valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot of >>> money for it. >>> >>> I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to fill out the >>> form to get the card. Just tell them you won't but you want the card >>> anyway. They have to provide it. >>> >>> I've seen first hand the info they keep on people and it is pretty scary >>> what they know about you. >>> >>> Paul >> >> Well, they know I buy Purina Naturals in the smallest bag. That means >> they could send me a free sample of a new Purina dry cat food. >> >> They also know everything else I buy and send me targeted coupons for >> things like Daisy sour cream and money off frozen foods and meats. >> >> Stores and companies are going to advertize to you like it or not. Might >> as well let them advertize stuff to you you're actually likely to use. > > > What you are seeing more and more of is data mining. Stores have a huge > record of your purchases. What I fear is when they start supplying this > info to say, insurance companies. They can use that as a basis for > coverage when you are a cardiac patient and they see you buy a lot of > butter. > > And before it gets written off as a CT, think of how banks, credit agencies > and medical insures now all share common databases. Some people are being > denied health care becaiuse of their less than perfect income levels and > credit scores, presumably because they don't eat well either. > > One reason I don't do that work anymore is because it just made me ill > thinking of the potential for abuse. > > Paul > > Have a look at this "fusion center" doew sound nicer than "big brother": http://it.ojp.gov/documents/fusion_c...nforcement.pdf |
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Sqwertz wrote:
> George > wrote: > >> It really isn't a big deal anyway because we buy most of our stuff at a >> market that doesn't believe in all of the nonsense of "bananas $3.95/lb >> or $0.49/lb with purchase ID tracking card". They simply sell you the >> bananas (or whatever) at a good price without invading your privacy. > > We have one store in town that uses the cards (the other went out of > business). While I'm using a card I found out in the parking lot > that does not print a name on the receipt, they are getting valuable > feedback from my use of the card: > > That I spend less than $60/year there and think their store sucks. > The rest of my shopping is done at a real store. > > BTW: All research shows that you pay *more* for groceries at a > Loyalty Card store. These programs are not free to initiate and > maintain. The ROI by selling your spending habits to marketers is > never reflected back into the price of your groceries. Even with > the $.21 worth of cat food. > > -sw The only reason I even tried to apply is that the one place is close by. It used to be part of a small group of stores owned by a local family. They sold out to a big box outfit and one of the new features was the purchase tracking ID card. Their prices aren't good anymore and now a lot of their meat is the walmart style embalmed "fresh" meat. I did mention to the manager why he lost our business so now we only purchase the occasional jug of milk. |
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Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "George" > wrote in message > ... >> Paul M. Cook wrote: >> >>> I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I helped them do it. >>> Now what they will do with that info I do not know but they most >>> definitely keep a history of everything you buy and when and where too. >>> It's hugely valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot of >>> money for it. >>> >>> I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to fill out the >>> form to get the card. Just tell them you won't but you want the card >>> anyway. They have to provide it. >> I am not sure why they would have to provide a purchase tracking ID card >> to you if you decline to give them your information. I have only tried a >> few times and in each case they demanded identification and refused to >> issued the purchase tracking ID card when I refused to give them my >> driver's license. >> > > You can state that there is a federal law prohibiting them from doing this. > They have no right to demand your ID. Period. You can legally write down > that your name is Jose Cuervo or Jim Beam and make up a fake ID number. > They cannot ask you for your ID. They can only ask to see proof of ID if > you are writing a check and then it can only be a bank card with your name > on it. When I got my Albertson's card, I simply got the card and the app, > said I'd bring the app back next time, they said no, I said I am entitled to > do that and they said OK. So I have an anonymous card. > > Paul > > I can't imagine what federal law might apply. Does it have something to do with discrimination or something like that? |
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"Pete C." > wrote > Nancy Young wrote: >> My store is part of the Albertson's chain, I don't see signs of them >> getting rid of the card. Wonder if they will. > Interesting, here the two Albertsons I frequent both dropped the cards, > and they have little promo signs around that say "No cards - No hassles" > or something like that. I expected it was a corporate thing and covered > all of them. I wonder if it's geographical. There are no supermarket chains around here that do not have a card. Every single one does. Even the drug stores. But when I was in Florida a couple months ago, we stopped at a Publix ... I picked up some stuff and stopped at the customer counter to sign up for a card so I would get the sale price. I'd like to sign up for a card? Huh? You mean a college card? Snicker, no, that wouldn't be the one. Oh, we don't have cards. Didn't I feel silly. Heh. nancy |
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Ms wrote on Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:03:00 -0500:
MP> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message MP> news:rMtOj.224$pn4.104@trnddc03... ??>> ??>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote ??>> in message 3.184... ??>>> On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us... ??>>> ??>>>> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to ??>>>> the same kind I give her to keep the hairballs at bay. ??>>>> ??>>>> Ms P ??>>> ??>>> I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as ??>>> my internet address. Phone number is optional, and I ??>>> don't give it. It's definitely had its benefits from ??>>> time to time. ??>> ??>> I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I ??>> helped them do it. Now what they will do with that info I ??>> do not know but they most definitely keep a history of ??>> everything you buy and when and where too. It's hugely ??>> valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot ??>> of money for it. ??>> ??>> I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to ??>> fill out the form to get the card. Just tell them you ??>> won't but you want the card anyway. They have to provide ??>> it. ??>> ??>> I've seen first hand the info they keep on people and it ??>> is pretty scary what they know about you. ??>> ??>> Paul MP> Well, they know I buy Purina Naturals in the smallest bag. MP> That means they could send me a free sample of a new Purina MP> dry cat food. MP> They also know everything else I buy and send me targeted MP> coupons for things like Daisy sour cream and money off MP> frozen foods and meats. MP> Stores and companies are going to advertize to you like it MP> or not. Might as well let them advertize stuff to you MP> you're actually likely to use. The local supermarket chain, Giant, has real sales that you need the card or a registered phone number to get the sale price. I try not to use the card unless necessary but it's disconcerting how many little discounts you can miss without it and the prices are worthwhile. James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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On Sat 19 Apr 2008 02:00:07p, Nancy Young told us...
> > "Pete C." > wrote > >> I give bogus info or no info for practically everything. I haven't >> missed anything of value, and the pet supply stores have been known to >> give out free sample bag of stuff in the store anyway. The Albertson's >> all dropped their store cards as well. > > My store is part of the Albertson's chain, I don't see signs of them > getting rid of the card. Wonder if they will. > > nancy > > Perhaps a regional thing, Nancy. They gave up the card here in Arizona last year. -- Wayne Boatwright ------------------------------------------- Saturday, 04(IV)/19(XIX)/08(MMVIII) ------------------------------------------- Countdown till Memorial Day 5wks 1dys 5hrs 50mins ------------------------------------------- A girl and a boy bump into each other -- surely an accident. A girl and a boy bump and her handkerchief drops -- surely another accident! |
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On Sat 19 Apr 2008 05:45:16p, Nancy Young told us...
> > "Pete C." > wrote > >> Nancy Young wrote: > >>> My store is part of the Albertson's chain, I don't see signs of them >>> getting rid of the card. Wonder if they will. >> Interesting, here the two Albertsons I frequent both dropped the cards, >> and they have little promo signs around that say "No cards - No >> hassles" or something like that. I expected it was a corporate thing >> and covered all of them. > > I wonder if it's geographical. There are no supermarket chains > around here that do not have a card. Every single one does. > Even the drug stores. Every store chain in the Phoenix area, except Albertson's, has given up the card. The drug stores have them, too. > But when I was in Florida a couple months ago, we stopped at > a Publix ... I picked up some stuff and stopped at the customer > counter to sign up for a card so I would get the sale price. I'd > like to sign up for a card? Huh? You mean a college card? Snicker, > no, that wouldn't be the one. Oh, we don't have cards. > > Didn't I feel silly. Heh. > > nancy -- Wayne Boatwright ------------------------------------------- Saturday, 04(IV)/19(XIX)/08(MMVIII) ------------------------------------------- Countdown till Memorial Day 5wks 1dys 5hrs 50mins ------------------------------------------- A girl and a boy bump into each other -- surely an accident. A girl and a boy bump and her handkerchief drops -- surely another accident! |
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On Sat 19 Apr 2008 02:48:07p, Paul M. Cook told us...
> > "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message > 3.184... >> On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us... >> >>> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to the same kind >>> I give her to keep the hairballs at bay. >>> >>> Ms P >> >> I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as my internet >> address. Phone number is optional, and I don't give it. It's >> definitely had its benefits from time to time. > > > I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I helped them do it. > Now what they will do with that info I do not know but they most > definitely keep a history of everything you buy and when and where too. > It's hugely valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot of > money for it. I don't really care if they do. > I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to fill out the > form to get the card. Just tell them you won't but you want the card > anyway. They have to provide it. > > I've seen first hand the info they keep on people and it is pretty scary > what they know about you. :-) I have absolutely nothing to hide, especially my purchasing habits. -- Wayne Boatwright ------------------------------------------- Saturday, 04(IV)/19(XIX)/08(MMVIII) ------------------------------------------- Countdown till Memorial Day 5wks 1dys 5hrs 50mins ------------------------------------------- A girl and a boy bump into each other -- surely an accident. A girl and a boy bump and her handkerchief drops -- surely another accident! |
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Nancy Young > wrote:
> I wonder if it's geographical. There are no supermarket chains > around here that do not have a card. Every single one does. > Even the drug stores. CVS uses cards here, Walgreen doesn't. I shop at Walgreens for just that reason. And I shop at HEB and Central Market over Randall's (Safeway) because of that. -sw |
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Goomba38 wrote:
> > I get a lot of coupons from Kroger because of their little keyfob card > thingie. Often it will be for a few dollars off a certain amount of > purchase but they often expire before I think to use them! They're only > valid a couple of weeks tops. What a waste! I have one of those key chain fobs, the old Grand Union in town issues them. They scan the card before scanning my order and` I get some pretty good discounts. That card also gives me a 6pct senior discont off my entire order on Wednesdays. I really don't care if they have my address, it's such a small town that everyone in town knows where everyone lives anyway. Do I really think the Grand Union manager is going to race me to my driveway and mug me for my groceries. |
advantage to giving your real address to the store card
James Silverton > wrote:
> The local supermarket chain, Giant, has real sales that you need > the card or a registered phone number to get the sale price. I > try not to use the card unless necessary but it's disconcerting > how many little discounts you can miss without it and the prices > are worthwhile. And other non-card stores have the same sales, and at lower prices on average. The stores want you to show the card at every visit, so they switch 'sales' around so that something you buy will be attached to a loyalty card discount. -sw |
advantage to giving your real address to the store card
On Sat 19 Apr 2008 06:09:30p, James Silverton told us...
> Ms wrote on Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:03:00 -0500: > > > MP> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message > MP> news:rMtOj.224$pn4.104@trnddc03... > ??>> > ??>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote > ??>> in message > 3.184... > ??>>> On Sat 19 Apr 2008 09:28:11a, Ms P told us... > ??>>> > ??>>>> They sent me a dry cat food sample today. It's close to > ??>>>> the same kind I give her to keep the hairballs at bay. > ??>>>> > ??>>>> Ms P > ??>>> > ??>>> I use my real address for all my store cards, as well as > ??>>> my internet address. Phone number is optional, and I > ??>>> don't give it. It's definitely had its benefits from > ??>>> time to time. > ??>> > ??>> I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I > ??>> helped them do it. Now what they will do with that info I > ??>> do not know but they most definitely keep a history of > ??>> everything you buy and when and where too. It's hugely > ??>> valuable information for advertisers who would pay a lot > ??>> of money for it. > ??>> > ??>> I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to > ??>> fill out the form to get the card. Just tell them you > ??>> won't but you want the card anyway. They have to provide > ??>> it. > ??>> > ??>> I've seen first hand the info they keep on people and it > ??>> is pretty scary what they know about you. > ??>> > ??>> Paul > > MP> Well, they know I buy Purina Naturals in the smallest bag. > MP> That means they could send me a free sample of a new Purina > MP> dry cat food. > > MP> They also know everything else I buy and send me targeted > MP> coupons for things like Daisy sour cream and money off > MP> frozen foods and meats. > > MP> Stores and companies are going to advertize to you like it > MP> or not. Might as well let them advertize stuff to you > MP> you're actually likely to use. > > The local supermarket chain, Giant, has real sales that you need > the card or a registered phone number to get the sale price. I > try not to use the card unless necessary but it's disconcerting > how many little discounts you can miss without it and the prices > are worthwhile. That's very true, at least around here. We made the shopping rounds today at Safeway, Fry's, and Basha's (local, but also uses a card). We saved over $75 at one place, over $45 at another, and $27 and some odd cents at the third. In my mind, it just doesn't make sense not to use them. The only chain in greater Phoenix that doesn't use a card is Albertson's, and it's also my least favorite store to shop in, even when they used the card. > James Silverton > Potomac, Maryland > > E-mail, with obvious alterations: > not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not > > -- Wayne Boatwright ------------------------------------------- Saturday, 04(IV)/19(XIX)/08(MMVIII) ------------------------------------------- Countdown till Memorial Day 5wks 1dys 5hrs 30mins ------------------------------------------- Pessimism means never having to be disappointed. A pessimist only receives *pleasant* surprises. ------------------------------------------- |
advantage to giving your real address to the store card
"Sqwertz" > wrote > Nancy Young > wrote: > >> I wonder if it's geographical. There are no supermarket chains >> around here that do not have a card. Every single one does. >> Even the drug stores. > > CVS uses cards here, Walgreen doesn't. I shop at Walgreens for just > that reason. And I shop at HEB and Central Market over Randall's > (Safeway) because of that. Agreed about Walgreen's, I didn't think of them because there aren't many around here. They always seem to be very convenient to wherever I vacation, which comes in very handy. But CVS and Rite Aid, the only two drug stores around here, both have cards. nancy |
advantage to giving your real address to the store card
Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
> Every store chain in the Phoenix area, except Albertson's, has given up the > card. The drug stores have them, too. Yeah - and look how well Albertson's is doing. Honestly, I don't how the Randall's in TX stay in business. They're the only place left that do the card thing, and their prices are through the roof. Often times I'll be one of only 5-8 customers in the whole store. On sale this week at Randall's: "Save $5.99 on Oscar Meyer Bacon - Buy One for $5.99 and get one Free!!!" - with your club card. Price at HEB: $2.79 every day for the same 16oz package. -sw |
advantage to giving your real address to the store card
Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
> We made the shopping rounds today > at Safeway, Fry's, and Basha's (local, but also uses a card). We saved > over $75 at one place, over $45 at another, and $27 and some odd cents at > the third. You didn't "save" anything. You paid slightly more than normal retail prices. -sw |
advantage to giving your real address to the store card
On Sat 19 Apr 2008 06:42:48p, Nancy Young told us...
> > "Sqwertz" > wrote > >> Nancy Young > wrote: >> >>> I wonder if it's geographical. There are no supermarket chains >>> around here that do not have a card. Every single one does. >>> Even the drug stores. >> >> CVS uses cards here, Walgreen doesn't. I shop at Walgreens for just >> that reason. And I shop at HEB and Central Market over Randall's >> (Safeway) because of that. > > Agreed about Walgreen's, I didn't think of them because there aren't > many around here. They always seem to be very convenient to wherever > I vacation, which comes in very handy. But CVS and Rite Aid, the only > two drug stores around here, both have cards. > > nancy Walgreen's and CVS are the two major drugstore chains here. I shop at Walgreen's simply by preference. CVS uses a card, but I can't stand their stores. The card wouldn't be a deterrent if I liked the place. -- Wayne Boatwright ------------------------------------------- Saturday, 04(IV)/19(XIX)/08(MMVIII) ------------------------------------------- Countdown till Memorial Day 5wks 1dys 5hrs 10mins ------------------------------------------- Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati - Possum Lodge Motto ------------------------------------------- |
advantage to giving your real address to the store card
The Kat > wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:20:29 GMT, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote: > >>You can state that there is a federal law prohibiting them from doing this. >>They have no right to demand your ID. Period. > > Bullshit. At least in the case of a person under the age of 18, it would be illegal for stores not to sell them merchandise at the discounted card price without being issued a card. A person under the age of 18 cannot enter into contracts accompanying the loyalty card agreements. I don't know of any other law that would prevent a private organization asking for identification to subscribe to their 'club'. I suspect that Paul is full of shit. But if he can cite such a law, I'll be the first to kiss his ass (virtually, of course). -sw |
advantage to giving your real address to the store card
Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
> I have absolutely nothing to hide, especially my purchasing habits. It's attitudes like this that the government uses to gradually rip away our personal freedoms. How would you feel if They wanted to put cameras in your bedroom? You have nothing to hide there, either. Where do you draw the line? -sw |
advantage to giving your real address to the store card
The Kat > wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:48:07 GMT, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote: > >> but they most definitely keep >>a history of everything you buy and when and where too. > > They keep records ONLY of what you buy FROM them, AND when using your card. Wait until they start widely using RFID in loyalty cards. Several stores have already implemented it. as soon as you walk through the door, your personal info appears on their screens. And since these loyalty cards are already outsourced, it won't be long before once company has control over all the information linked to the RFID tags in your wallet. -sw |
advantage to giving your real address to the store card
Paul M. Cook wrote:
> > "Blinky the Shark" > wrote in message > ynet.net... >> George wrote: >> >>> Paul M. Cook wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I can assure you they keep those records. I know, I helped them do >>>> it. Now what they will do with that info I do not know but they most >>>> definitely keep a history of everything you buy and when and where >>>> too. It's hugely valuable information for advertisers who would pay a >>>> lot of money for it. >>>> >>>> I keep all my cards anonymous. You simply do not have to fill out the >>>> form to get the card. Just tell them you won't but you want the card >>>> anyway. They have to provide it. >>> >>> I am not sure why they would have to provide a purchase tracking ID >>> card to you if you decline to give them your information. >> >> I doubt that they have to. I think when they do it's simply to keep >> from ****ing off a customer (remember the "customer is always right" >> bullshit), even it's one they can't identify; even an anonymous >> customer's money is money. >> >>> I have only tried a few times and in each case they demanded >>> identification and refused to issued the purchase tracking ID card when >>> I refused to give them my driver's license. >> >> Seems like that's their right; it's their program -- their offer to give >> you reduced prices. Same idea as Coscto: Want this? Trade us for >> that. In the cases at hand, it's information. In the Costco case, it's >> that information *and cash*. If one's afraid of the grocery club card >> idea, they should also be refusing to be a Costco member; but most >> probably don't think that far into the idea. > > Last I heard they wanted to merge their ATM purchase records with your > club card purchases. That way they could attach a person to the purchase. > So they get you one way or another. But trust me, they want that info > and you have to wonder why. Well, no, actually I don't. :) -- Blinky Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org Blinky: http://blinkynet.net |
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