Does anyone have a Rival stoneware slow cooker? I replaced my old Hamilton
Beach with a nice new Rival. It had some features that I liked and some I
didn't. I have used it about a year, maybe less and it died. It wouldn't
turn on. I had to dig out my old 30 yr. old cooker, which still works. I of
course can't find my receiptbut I am still going to let them know what I
think about their slow cooker. I was wondering if anyone else has had a
problem like this. I probably will avoid Rival stuff from now on.

Phyllis Stone > wrote:

> Does anyone have a Rival stoneware slow cooker? I replaced my
> old Hamilton Beach with a nice new Rival. It had some features
> that I liked and some I didn't. I have used it about a year,
> maybe less and it died.

Blame Walmart, for forcing manufacturers to cheapen their products
to the point they are all pieces of junk anymore.

Steve

Phyllis Stone wrote:
>
> Does anyone have a Rival stoneware slow cooker? I replaced my old Hamilton
> Beach with a nice new Rival. It had some features that I liked and some I
> didn't. I have used it about a year, maybe less and it died. It wouldn't
> turn on. I had to dig out my old 30 yr. old cooker, which still works. I of
> course can't find my receiptbut I am still going to let them know what I
> think about their slow cooker. I was wondering if anyone else has had a
> problem like this. I probably will avoid Rival stuff from now on.

My crockpot is a Rival, one of the last ones made
in the U.S. Now, they're made in China. Thank
Warren Buffet for that. Berkshire Hathaway bought
Rival, and moved the manufacturing to China.
That's his _modus_operandi_ -- buy companies with
great names earned by producing great products,
then keep the name but replace the products
with the cheapest possible crap.

Unfortunately, it works. It takes some time
for people to realize that the name no longer
stands for quality. Warren Buffet has made
tons of money off of this scheme. It's a
form of legal looting. To me, it seems
like treason to do this to your own country.

On Apr 6, 6:07*pm, "Phyllis Stone" > wrote:
> Does anyone have a Rival stoneware slow cooker? I replaced my old *Hamilton
> Beach with a nice new Rival. It had some features that I liked and some I
> didn't. I have used it about a year, maybe less and it died. It wouldn't
> turn on. I had to dig out my old 30 yr. old cooker, which still works. I of
> course can't find my receiptbut I am still going to let them know what I
> think about their slow cooker. I was wondering if anyone else has had a
> problem like this. I probably will avoid Rival stuff from now on.


I bought a GE to add to my crockpot collection last Autumn. I own a
total of 5, of various sizes, and brands. Why 5 you ask! I have a
large family and when holidays are at my home, I use them for various
things - Mashed Potatoes, Gravy, Stuffing, etc.

This newer GE drove me insane at first. It is one of those you
program in digitally. . .What is wrong with "On - Off - Who needs a
man?"

Myrl Jeffcoat

"Myrl Jeffcoat" > wrote in message
...


I bought a GE to add to my crockpot collection last Autumn. I own a
total of 5, of various sizes, and brands. Why 5 you ask! I have a
large family and when holidays are at my home, I use them for various
things - Mashed Potatoes, Gravy, Stuffing, etc.


I am going to see if Hamilton Beach even makes them anymore or even still in
business. My Rival that died, it sat directly on the counter and seemed to
get very hot. I liked the programinng but maybe I used it too much or for
too long periods. The last thing it did was make turkey broth from some
turkey parts.

This newer GE drove me insane at first. It is one of those you
program in digitally. . .What is wrong with "On - Off - Who needs a
man?"

Myrl Jeffcoat

"Phyllis Stone" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Myrl Jeffcoat" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>
> I bought a GE to add to my crockpot collection last Autumn. I own a
> total of 5, of various sizes, and brands. Why 5 you ask! I have a
> large family and when holidays are at my home, I use them for various
> things - Mashed Potatoes, Gravy, Stuffing, etc.
>
>
> I am going to see if Hamilton Beach even makes them anymore or even still
> in business. My Rival that died, it sat directly on the counter and seemed
> to get very hot. I liked the programinng but maybe I used it too much or
> for too long periods. The last thing it did was make turkey broth from
> some turkey parts.
>


I am following up on my own post. I went to Amazon and it seems to be a
Rival or a Rival. They have captured the slow cooking industry.

On Mon 07 Apr 2008 04:15:24a, Phyllis Stone told us...

>
> "Phyllis Stone" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Myrl Jeffcoat" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>
>> I bought a GE to add to my crockpot collection last Autumn. I own a
>> total of 5, of various sizes, and brands. Why 5 you ask! I have a
>> large family and when holidays are at my home, I use them for various
>> things - Mashed Potatoes, Gravy, Stuffing, etc.
>>
>>
>> I am going to see if Hamilton Beach even makes them anymore or even
>> still in business. My Rival that died, it sat directly on the counter
>> and seemed to get very hot. I liked the programinng but maybe I used it
>> too much or for too long periods. The last thing it did was make turkey
>> broth from some turkey parts.
>>
>
>
> I am following up on my own post. I went to Amazon and it seems to be a
> Rival or a Rival. They have captured the slow cooking industry.


Are you saying tht this Hamilton Beach slow cooker is made by Rival?

http://tinyurl.com/5h3grs

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Mark Thorson wrote:

> Unfortunately, it works. It takes some time
> for people to realize that the name no longer
> stands for quality. Warren Buffet has made
> tons of money off of this scheme. It's a
> form of legal looting. To me, it seems
> like treason to do this to your own country.

Good grief.. while it isn't great, it is *hardly* treason.
Aren't they *Americans* who keep shopping at Walmart and wanting cheap,
cheap, cheap goods?

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
3.184...
> >>> ...
..
>>>
>>
>>
>> I am following up on my own post. I went to Amazon and it seems to be a
>> Rival or a Rival. They have captured the slow cooking industry.
>
>
> Are you saying tht this Hamilton Beach slow cooker is made by Rival?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5h3grs
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright
> -------------------------------------------
>
>


No, what I meant was there is a whole lot of Rivals. That HB looks good. Do
you have it and does it have a non-stick pot? I have read tons of reviews
from amazon and there was a kitcheaid I liked but people kept saying the pot
cracked. So I called customer service and he explained why the pot would
crack.

In article >, Phyllis Stone
> wrote:

> Does anyone have a Rival stoneware slow cooker? I replaced my old Hamilton
> Beach with a nice new Rival. It had some features that I liked and some I
> didn't. I have used it about a year, maybe less and it died. It wouldn't
> turn on. I had to dig out my old 30 yr. old cooker, which still works. I of
> course can't find my receiptbut I am still going to let them know what I
> think about their slow cooker. I was wondering if anyone else has had a
> problem like this. I probably will avoid Rival stuff from now on.

The Rival I have is made in China and it's worked just fine for the
past couple of years.

On the other hand... for about a year I've been avoiding products made
in China for economic reasons, and lately for political reasons. Now I
have a case of buyer's remorse for having bought it. I guess there's
no use in crying over spilt dollars. Or is there?

=-=-=-=-= Disclaimer: very little about cooking follows =-=-=-=-=

Rant switch to the on position:

What most people forget or ignore is the fact that manufacturing is one
of only two ways to create new wealth, the other is to take something
out of the ground, like crops or minerals. Everything else is bean
shuffling.

We have exported the means by which an economy grows. Whatever we buy
that's manufactured overseas will be junk in a few short years (whether
5 or 10 or 15 years, that's the short term). What we exchange for this
junk is capital, and capital lasts forever. Not only that, but capital
earns interest, which we are finding out in spades since we now send
hundreds of billions of dollars in interest overseas each year. We
have made the worst bargain in history and the price for it will not be
easy to stomach.

I, personally, am getting ready for hard times. My father (d. 2003)
always warned me that we would have a depression as soon as the people
(like him) who remember the last depression have died off. Bernanke &
Co. have been expanding the money supply by 15% a year trying to avoid
a depression, or even the balance-sheet-type recession the Japanese
have had for a decade-and-a-half now. The currency has lost 1/3 of its
value since Frank Burns... er, did I say Frank Burns? sorry, George
Bush and his NeoCon wizards (NOT!) have taken over. And gold bullion
has quadrupled.

The answer to this is to buy gold... er, no, wait a minute, to get out
of debt and learn to farm whatever land you have available; learn to
cook what you grow or can trade your surplus to get. I'm on the
lookout, casually, for recipes and stories of coping from the Great
Depression.

I'm still hesitant to arm myself, although I must admit that I've
looked for a handgun. I carried the military Colt .45 in my three
Vietnam tours, so that's what I'm looking for since I know it will
knock a man right off his feet.

My father said that a modern depression would be quite different than
the last one. People today don't have or practice the values of old,
basically agrarian values of a century ago (be stoic in the face of
adversity, be accepting of your fate, don't complain, etc.). He said
that despite 25% unemployment (a government figure, the real level of
unemployment was higher), a person could walk down most streets in
America and feel safe. The next depression, he said, would bring out
the worst in some people, like family men who will do anything, legal
or not, to feed their families.

Sorry for getting off on a tangent. Like I said, a cornerstone of my
learning to cook is to be ready for hard times by being able to use
cooking's basic tools. And be able to cook things like beet tops,
bread, and borshch, because I may not be able to buy the kinds of meats
and other foods I've taken for granted in the past but do so less and
less all the time as I see prices go through the roof (they say we've
only seen the beginning of this).

My view is the price and availability of food and fuel will be issues
in _my_ future. Not the future I imagined. Not the future I went to
Vietnam for, either. I'm not happy about the government collecting so
much data about us either. Last year, the VA exposed my data on on a
laptop. Based on past and current experience, it's not a stretch to
say that when the government knows everything about us then everyone
will know everything about us.

Rant switch to the off position.

Goomba38 wrote:
>
> Mark Thorson wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately, it works. It takes some time
> > for people to realize that the name no longer
> > stands for quality. Warren Buffet has made
> > tons of money off of this scheme. It's a
> > form of legal looting. To me, it seems
> > like treason to do this to your own country.
>
> Good grief.. while it isn't great, it is *hardly* treason.
> Aren't they *Americans* who keep shopping at Walmart and
> wanting cheap, cheap, cheap goods?

That's like blaming American drug users for the
Colombian drug mafia.

On Mon 07 Apr 2008 08:21:20a, Phyllis Stone told us...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 3.184...
>> >>>
>> >>> ... .
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am following up on my own post. I went to Amazon and it seems to be
>>> a Rival or a Rival. They have captured the slow cooking industry.
>>
>>
>> Are you saying tht this Hamilton Beach slow cooker is made by Rival?
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/5h3grs
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>> -------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>
>
> No, what I meant was there is a whole lot of Rivals. That HB looks
> good. Do you have it and does it have a non-stick pot? I have read tons
> of reviews from amazon and there was a kitcheaid I liked but people kept
> saying the pot cracked. So I called customer service and he explained
> why the pot would crack.

Rival CrockPots have flooded the market for years. I think quality control
is more to blame, as some of the units are perfectly fine and last for
years, while others cook too hot or too cool or break down within a short
time. The last one I bought was an 8 qt. Rival CrockPot and I've had very
good luck with it, and the temperature seems to be accurate. I had one
previously that gave up the ghost after 3 uses.

No, I don't have a Hamilton Beach, but that looks like a nice unit. I had
misunderstood what you wrote and thought you were saying that perhaps the
Hamilton Beach units were being made by Rival. My mistake.

--
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6wks 6dys 11hrs 20mins
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arranges itself for our convenience
into those paltry little squares they
print on calendars?

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
3.184...
> On Mon 07 Apr 2008 08:21:20a, Phyllis Stone told us...



>
> Rival CrockPots have flooded the market for years. I think quality
> control
> is more to blame, as some of the units are perfectly fine and last for
> years, while others cook too hot or too cool or break down within a short
> time. The last one I bought was an 8 qt. Rival CrockPot and I've had very
> good luck with it, and the temperature seems to be accurate. I had one
> previously that gave up the ghost after 3 uses.
>
> No, I don't have a Hamilton Beach, but that looks like a nice unit. I had
> misunderstood what you wrote and thought you were saying that perhaps the
> Hamilton Beach units were being made by Rival. My mistake.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright


I have put the Kitchenaid in my cart at amazon. I am one of those people who
dither and delay but I may go ahead and get it and just hope it doesn't
crack. That seems to be the only real drawback to it.

On Mon 07 Apr 2008 02:00:47p, Phyllis Stone told us...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 3.184...
>> On Mon 07 Apr 2008 08:21:20a, Phyllis Stone told us...
>
>
>
>>
>> Rival CrockPots have flooded the market for years. I think quality
>> control is more to blame, as some of the units are perfectly fine and
>> last for years, while others cook too hot or too cool or break down
>> within a short time. The last one I bought was an 8 qt. Rival CrockPot
>> and I've had very good luck with it, and the temperature seems to be
>> accurate. I had one previously that gave up the ghost after 3 uses.
>>
>> No, I don't have a Hamilton Beach, but that looks like a nice unit. I
>> had misunderstood what you wrote and thought you were saying that
>> perhaps the Hamilton Beach units were being made by Rival. My mistake.
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
>
> I have put the Kitchenaid in my cart at amazon. I am one of those people
> who dither and delay but I may go ahead and get it and just hope it
> doesn't crack. That seems to be the only real drawback to it.
>
>

What was the reason Kitchenaid gave for their crocks cracking?

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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
.184...
> On Mon 07 Apr 2008 02:00:47p, Phyllis Stone told us...
>
>>
>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>> 3.184...
>>> On Mon 07 Apr 2008 08:21:20a, Phyllis Stone told us...
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Rival CrockPots have flooded the market for years. I think quality
>>> control is more to blame, as some of the units are perfectly fine and
>>> last for years, while others cook too hot or too cool or break down
>>> within a short time. The last one I bought was an 8 qt. Rival CrockPot
>>> and I've had very good luck with it, and the temperature seems to be
>>> accurate. I had one previously that gave up the ghost after 3 uses.
>>>
>>> No, I don't have a Hamilton Beach, but that looks like a nice unit. I
>>> had misunderstood what you wrote and thought you were saying that
>>> perhaps the Hamilton Beach units were being made by Rival. My mistake.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Wayne Boatwright
>>
>>
>> I have put the Kitchenaid in my cart at amazon. I am one of those people
>> who dither and delay but I may go ahead and get it and just hope it
>> doesn't crack. That seems to be the only real drawback to it.
>>
>>
>
> What was the reason Kitchenaid gave for their crocks cracking?
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright


After I had read several reviews of people saying theirs had cracked I
called the customer service number and asked. He said that Kitchenaid's
heating element was different in that when you turn it on it heats all over
instead of just from the bottom. If you put something cold or frozen in the
pot it can crack. It could be BS but I want to believe that it won't happen
to me because I liked the cooker the best. I actually liked my Rival until
it quit working so maybe I'm easy. I will be very mad and sad if mine
cracks. I can't say I wasn't warned.

On Mon 07 Apr 2008 05:59:21p, Phyllis Stone told us...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> .184...
>> On Mon 07 Apr 2008 02:00:47p, Phyllis Stone told us...
>>
>>>
>>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>>> 3.184...
>>>> On Mon 07 Apr 2008 08:21:20a, Phyllis Stone told us...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rival CrockPots have flooded the market for years. I think quality
>>>> control is more to blame, as some of the units are perfectly fine and
>>>> last for years, while others cook too hot or too cool or break down
>>>> within a short time. The last one I bought was an 8 qt. Rival
>>>> CrockPot and I've had very good luck with it, and the temperature
>>>> seems to be accurate. I had one previously that gave up the ghost
>>>> after 3 uses.
>>>>
>>>> No, I don't have a Hamilton Beach, but that looks like a nice unit.
>>>> I had misunderstood what you wrote and thought you were saying that
>>>> perhaps the Hamilton Beach units were being made by Rival. My
>>>> mistake.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Wayne Boatwright
>>>
>>>
>>> I have put the Kitchenaid in my cart at amazon. I am one of those
>>> people who dither and delay but I may go ahead and get it and just
>>> hope it doesn't crack. That seems to be the only real drawback to it.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> What was the reason Kitchenaid gave for their crocks cracking?
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
>
> After I had read several reviews of people saying theirs had cracked I
> called the customer service number and asked. He said that Kitchenaid's
> heating element was different in that when you turn it on it heats all
> over instead of just from the bottom. If you put something cold or
> frozen in the pot it can crack. It could be BS but I want to believe
> that it won't happen to me because I liked the cooker the best. I
> actually liked my Rival until it quit working so maybe I'm easy. I will
> be very mad and sad if mine cracks. I can't say I wasn't warned.

Their explanation makes sense. I guess room temperature ingredients or at
least not straight out of the fridge or freezer would be the best thing to
put in it. FWIW, the early Rival CrockPots did not heat from the bottom at
all, just around the sides. I don't know if they're still made that way.
I've never checked that out on my new one.

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Phyllis Stone wrote:
> Does anyone have a Rival stoneware slow cooker? I replaced my old Hamilton
> Beach with a nice new Rival. It had some features that I liked and some I
> didn't. I have used it about a year, maybe less and it died. It wouldn't
> turn on. I had to dig out my old 30 yr. old cooker, which still works. I of
> course can't find my receiptbut I am still going to let them know what I
> think about their slow cooker. I was wondering if anyone else has had a
> problem like this. I probably will avoid Rival stuff from now on.
>
>
My daughter bought me a Rival a few years ago. Someone with a bad sense
of humor called it a "smart cooker" It was a piece of junk. Even on
"warm" it ran too hot. One day it killed a pot of beans that I had made
from scratch and that was the last straw. I threw the cooker with the
beans in it into the trash.

I bought a Hamilton Beach slow cooker to replace it and I just love it!

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Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

Phyllis Stone wrote:
> "Phyllis Stone" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Myrl Jeffcoat" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>
>> I bought a GE to add to my crockpot collection last Autumn. I own a
>> total of 5, of various sizes, and brands. Why 5 you ask! I have a
>> large family and when holidays are at my home, I use them for various
>> things - Mashed Potatoes, Gravy, Stuffing, etc.
>>
>>
>> I am going to see if Hamilton Beach even makes them anymore or even still
>> in business. My Rival that died, it sat directly on the counter and seemed
>> to get very hot. I liked the programinng but maybe I used it too much or
>> for too long periods. The last thing it did was make turkey broth from
>> some turkey parts.
>>
>
>
> I am following up on my own post. I went to Amazon and it seems to be a
> Rival or a Rival. They have captured the slow cooking industry.
>
>
I bought my Hamilton Beach in Target. Did you check their site?

--
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Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

Phyllis Stone wrote:
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 3.184...
>> On Mon 07 Apr 2008 08:21:20a, Phyllis Stone told us...
>
>
>
>> Rival CrockPots have flooded the market for years. I think quality
>> control
>> is more to blame, as some of the units are perfectly fine and last for
>> years, while others cook too hot or too cool or break down within a short
>> time. The last one I bought was an 8 qt. Rival CrockPot and I've had very
>> good luck with it, and the temperature seems to be accurate. I had one
>> previously that gave up the ghost after 3 uses.
>>
>> No, I don't have a Hamilton Beach, but that looks like a nice unit. I had
>> misunderstood what you wrote and thought you were saying that perhaps the
>> Hamilton Beach units were being made by Rival. My mistake.
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
>
> I have put the Kitchenaid in my cart at amazon. I am one of those people who
> dither and delay but I may go ahead and get it and just hope it doesn't
> crack. That seems to be the only real drawback to it.
>
>


This is the one I bought. http://tinyurl.com/4stq27

I got mine at Target and it was about $40 there. I really like it.

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

In article >, Phyllis Stone
> wrote:

> After I had read several reviews of people saying theirs had cracked I
> called the customer service number and asked. He said that Kitchenaid's
> heating element was different in that when you turn it on it heats all over
> instead of just from the bottom. If you put something cold or frozen in the
> pot it can crack. It could be BS but I want to believe that it won't happen
> to me because I liked the cooker the best. I actually liked my Rival until
> it quit working so maybe I'm easy. I will be very mad and sad if mine
> cracks. I can't say I wasn't warned.

My practice is to warm the crockpot with water from the tap and then
add warm ingredients. For instance, I will brown the meat and then add
some liquid to get all of the flavors from the pan. I sometimes put
vegetables, meat and liquid in a large pot and heat them to the same
temperature as the warmed crock. This allows me to start on the lower
temperature to reduce stress on the crock.

On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:21:20 GMT, "Phyllis Stone" >
wrote:

>
>"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
73.184...
>> >>> ...
>.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am following up on my own post. I went to Amazon and it seems to be a
>>> Rival or a Rival. They have captured the slow cooking industry.
>>
>>
>> Are you saying tht this Hamilton Beach slow cooker is made by Rival?
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/5h3grs
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>> -------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>
>
>No, what I meant was there is a whole lot of Rivals. That HB looks good. Do
>you have it and does it have a non-stick pot? I have read tons of reviews
>from amazon and there was a kitcheaid I liked but people kept saying the pot
>cracked. So I called customer service and he explained why the pot would
>crack.
>

i love the customer review feature at amazon, but sometimes you have
to take them with a grain of salt.

your pal,
blake

>
> i love the customer review feature at amazon, but sometimes you have
> to take them with a grain of salt.
>
> your pal,
> blake


i also like Amazon's customer reviews for starters

but i usually add 99 grains of salt to my recipes

waterboy