Chef Bourdain Says McDonald's Is Scary

and i agree!

http://start.earthlink.net/newsartic...7U838OG0_story

> Chef Bourdain Says McDonald's Is Scary
>
> and i agree!
>
> http://start.earthlink.net/newsartic...7U838OG0_story
>
>

I think he's an idiot. If his feeble mind cannot fathom what a chicken
mcnugget is - or might be - got forbid him understanding anything more
complex, and he's *supposed* to be a chef!

NO Email wrote:
>> Chef Bourdain Says McDonald's Is Scary
>>
>> and i agree!
>>
>> http://start.earthlink.net/newsartic...7U838OG0_story
>>
>>
>
> I think he's an idiot. If his feeble mind cannot fathom what a chicken
> mcnugget is - or might be - got forbid him understanding anything more
> complex, and he's *supposed* to be a chef!

He may be an idiot (I got the distinct impression he is when I read 'Kitchen
Confidential') but IMO he's right. Chopped pressed breaded fried chicken
parts (a'la McNugget) just doesn't strike me as all that great. But then, I
can't remember the last time I went to a McDonald's. Had to have been at
least 5 years ago, if not more.

Note: 'A Cooks Tour' is a much better book.

Jill

mrs j peters wrote:

> Chef Bourdain Says McDonald's Is Scary
>
> and i agree!
>
> http://start.earthlink.net/newsartic...7U838OG0_story

I dont' know what's more disturbing or frightening: the foods he pointed
out or the fact that he's an author and he describes everything as "the
most frightening and disturbing thing". Get a thesaurus for the man,
please.

--
Darryl L. Pierce >
Visit the Infobahn Offramp - <http://bellsouthpwp.net/m/c/mcpierce>
"What do you care what other people think, Mr. Feynman?"

Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
> mrs j peters wrote:
>
>> Chef Bourdain Says McDonald's Is Scary
>>
>> and i agree!
>>
>> http://start.earthlink.net/newsartic...7U838OG0_story
>
> I dont' know what's more disturbing or frightening: the foods he
> pointed out or the fact that he's an author and he describes
> everything as "the most frightening and disturbing thing". Get a
> thesaurus for the man, please.

Ever heard of an "editor"? Apparently he can't describe anything another
way without the assistance of one

Jill

On 2003-10-17, NO Email > wrote:
>
> I think he's an idiot. If his feeble mind cannot fathom what a chicken
> mcnugget is - or might be.....

Why don't you tell us what a MacDonald's Chicken McNugget is! I sure
as Hell don't know. Near as I can tell, it's some sort of breaded
grease matrix. I dare you to find something even remotely resembling
chicken meat in one. If you think there's actually any real chicken
meat in a McNugget, you're even more feeble minded than Tony (a
condition MacDonald's very successfully exploits!).

nb

NO Email wrote:
>> Chef Bourdain Says McDonald's Is Scary
>>
>> and i agree!
>>
>> http://start.earthlink.net/newsartic...7U838OG0_story
>>
>>
>
> I think he's an idiot. If his feeble mind cannot fathom what a chicken
> mcnugget is - or might be - got forbid him understanding anything more
> complex, and he's *supposed* to be a chef!

Better than any "McNugget", try this:

4 boneless chicken breasts, cut into strips
1/2 c. Italian salad dressing (oil based)
1/4 c. breadcrumbs seasoned with dried oregano or marjoram, basil and
parsley flakes
1/2 tsp. pepper

Marinate the chicken breast strips in Italian salad dressing about 30
minutes. Dredge in seasoned breadcrumbs to evenly coat. Spray a baking
dish with cooking spray or lightly brush the pan with canola oil. Bake the
chicken at 425F about 10 minutes or until crispy and golden brown.

Those are McQuowns, not McNuggets.

Jill

mrs j peters wrote:
> Chef Bourdain Says McDonald's Is Scary
>
> and i agree!
>
> http://start.earthlink.net/newsartic...7U838OG0_story

lol ... so true !
Later in the interview, Bourdain thought of another scary dining experience:
"Walking into Planet Hollywood and seeing Bruce Willis' underwear hanging
over your plate. I mean that to me is the most disturbing and frightening."



--
Gold ODDY Winner, 2002

!
>
>You need tostoptaking things so literally. PLease come up with more
>intelligent rants in the future, whoever you are.
>
>-sw

Maybe you need to take your own advice? Idiot.

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:10:36 +1000, "lea" > wrote:

>lol ... so true !
>Later in the interview, Bourdain thought of another scary dining experience:
>"Walking into Planet Hollywood and seeing Bruce Willis' underwear hanging
>over your plate. I mean that to me is the most disturbing and frightening."
>
So perhaps neither is the "most" disturbing, but going to Planet
Hollywood and eating McDonalds Chicken Mcnuggets under Bruce Willis'
underwear _would_ be <shudder>.

Bob

I eagerly look forward to each episode of Cooks Tour. I consider it one
of the better shows on the TV Network. I enjoy his dry, warped sense of
humour. He definitely shows extremes of emotion. One week he is in some
third world toilet bowl consuming absolute shit only to be followed by some
of the finest cuisine in the world cooked by fabulous chefs. He looks like a
burned out rock star. His comparison of the reproductive practices of
oysters and club med members was brilliant. Oh, by the way, chicken
McFuggits are made from compressed chicken skin.

Farmer John

"mrs j peters" > wrote in message
k.net...
>
> Chef Bourdain Says McDonald's Is Scary
>
> and i agree!
>
> http://start.earthlink.net/newsartic...7U838OG0_story
>
>

On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:13:50 GMT, "mrs j peters"
> wrote:

>
>Chef Bourdain Says McDonald's Is Scary
>and i agree!
>
>http://start.earthlink.net/newsartic...7U838OG0_story

McDonald's may produce qualms, but the article quotes Bourdain as
saying "When I go to a tiny little town in Morocco in the middle of
nowhere and there's a damn KFC or a Planet Hollywood or a Hard Rock
Cafe, that to me is the most frightening and disturbing." According to
their web site, there isn't a Planet Hollywood in Morocco. KFC plans
to expand there, but their efforts in the 70s were unsuccessful. There
is no listing for a Hard Rock Cafe in Morocco. These restaurants *are*
present in many exotic locations (large cities), but scarcely "in the
middle of nowhere." US fast food, like McDonald's, has been welcomed
in many parts of the world -- partly from the 'American' association,
and partly because of providing standardized, sanitary, good-tasting
food. Millions of Americans like McDonald's fries -- why not the rest
of the world? America has a zillion Chinese, Thai, Italian, and
"Mexican" restaurants, as well as those specializing in the cuisine of
every country and continent. Just because Dubai hasn't developed a
successful chain restaurant to export doesn't mean if it does, it will
be an insult everywhere.

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 06:08:03 -0400, "Fudge" > Blurted out
the following for cryin'outloud!: :

> I eagerly look forward to each episode of Cooks Tour. I consider it one
> of the better shows on the TV Network. I enjoy his dry, warped sense of
> humour. He definitely shows extremes of emotion. One week he is in some
> third world toilet bowl consuming absolute shit only to be followed by some
> of the finest cuisine in the world cooked by fabulous chefs. He looks like a
> burned out rock star. His comparison of the reproductive practices of
> oysters and club med members was brilliant. Oh, by the way, chicken
> McFuggits are made from compressed chicken skin.
>
> Farmer John
>

Yikes. I hate that visual that lasts line gave me. Piles of chicken skin
pressed in a trash compressor then formed into nuggets. And I do believe
this is done. Yikes again.

I had forbidden my family to eat at McDonalds. I make the McNuggets at
home from chicken breast pieces rolled in Panko. Once my family got used to
it, my daughter told me she will never touch one from McDonalds again.



Robocheese

Food is good. Eat.

Frogleg wrote:

> McDonald's may produce qualms, but the article quotes Bourdain as
> saying "When I go to a tiny little town in Morocco in the middle of
> nowhere and there's a damn KFC or a Planet Hollywood or a Hard Rock
> Cafe, that to me is the most frightening and disturbing." According to
> their web site, there isn't a Planet Hollywood in Morocco. KFC plans
> to expand there, but their efforts in the 70s were unsuccessful. There
> is no listing for a Hard Rock Cafe in Morocco.


I believe his "example" was *not* to be taken literally... but to prove
a point...


> Millions of Americans like McDonald's fries -- why not the rest
> of the world? America has a zillion *AMERICANIZED* Chinese,
> *AMERICANIZED* Thai, *AMERICANIZED* Italian, and *AMERICANIZED*
> "Mexican" restaurants, as well as those specializing in the cuisine of
> every country and continent.


I agree 100% with Mr. Bourdain... The last thing I want to see in a
foreign country is any remnants of Western Culture... America has
already fallen victim to the "Individually Wrapped Prepackaged Single
Serving" plague... and I don't want to see the rest of the world follow
suit...

~john!

--
What was it like to see - the face of your own stability - suddenly look
away...

Fudge wrote:

> I eagerly look forward to each episode of Cooks Tour. I consider it =
one
> of the better shows on the TV Network. I enjoy his dry, warped sense of=

> humour. He definitely shows extremes of emotion. One week he is in some=

> third world toilet bowl consuming absolute shit only to be followed by =
some
> of the finest cuisine in the world cooked by fabulous chefs. He looks l=
ike a
> burned out rock star. His comparison of the reproductive practices of
> oysters and club med members was brilliant.

Up to here, I agreed completely.

> Oh, by the way, chicken
> McFuggits are made from compressed chicken skin.

Puhleeze. It's white meat chicken, "chopped and formed" (as the=20
industry tech talk goes). Not gourmet stuff, but certainly not=20
"compressed chicken skin." But even if it were, chicken skin is still=20
food that most people would consider perfectly edible. Think fried or=20
roasted chicken.

Here's the legal description from McD.

Chicken McNuggets=AE:
Chicken, water, salt, modified corn starch, sodium phosphates, chicken=20
broth powder [chicken broth, salt, and natural flavoring (chicken=20
source)], seasoning (vegetable oil, extracts of rosemary, mono, di-=20
and triglycerides, lecithin).

Battered and breaded with water, enriched bleached wheat flour=20
(niacin, iron, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), yellow=20
corn flour, bleached wheat flour, modified corn starch, salt,=20
leavening (baking soda, sodium acid pyrophosphate, sodium aluminum=20
phosphate, monocalcium phosphate, calcium lactate), spices, wheat=20
starch, dried whey, corn starch. Batter set in vegetable shortening.

Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils, (may contain=20
partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn=20
oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil=20
and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). TBHQ and citric acid added to=20
help preserve freshness. Dimethylpolysiloxane added as an anti-foaming=20
agent.

Pastorio

Bob Pastorio wrote:

> Chicken McNuggets®:
> Chicken, water, salt, modified corn starch, <snip>


Is the term "chicken" regulated in any way?... If only chicken rectums
are used can they still legally just list "chicken"?...

~john!



--
What was it like to see - the face of your own stability - suddenly look
away...

>
>So perhaps neither is the "most" disturbing, but going to Planet
>Hollywood and eating McDonalds Chicken Mcnuggets under Bruce Willis'
>underwear _would_ be <shudder>.
>
>Bob
>

This is very very scary... but I need to add that one of their dinners at
Planet Hollywood , features chicken rolled in mashed up Captain Crunch
cereal... I find this pretty scary.
Rosie

Rosie Miller wrote:
>> So perhaps neither is the "most" disturbing, but going to Planet
>> Hollywood and eating McDonalds Chicken Mcnuggets under Bruce Willis'
>> underwear _would_ be <shudder>.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>
> This is very very scary... but I need to add that one of their
> dinners at Planet Hollywood , features chicken rolled in mashed up
> Captain Crunch cereal... I find this pretty scary.
> Rosie

Captain Crunch?! OH UGH. I never even liked that as a child, let alone on
my chicken!

Jill

Cian O'Donnell wrote:

> How much do you know about chicken rectums...?


Well... after violating your whoring mother's rectum I'd say I know
quite a bit...

~john!




--
What was it like to see - the face of your own stability - suddenly look
away...

Cian O'Donnell wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:38:59 -0400, levelwave >
> said
>
>> Frogleg wrote:
>>
> What's your problem with the "Individually Wrapped Prepackaged Single
> Serving"...? Or is pretension just your nature...?
> ________________
> Cian O'Donnell

Generally speaking, "individually wrapped prepackaged single serving" refers
to something that pretends to be American cheese, but is in fact listed as
"cheese food". Now, you may like such things but a large number of people
do not. I, for one, would like a real slice of cheddar rather than "cheese
food". Ditto not liking Kraft Mac & Cheese; powdered reconstituted cheese
holds no appeal for me. There's nothing pretentious about it.

I will say I use plenty of boxed mixes, including Uncle Bens white & wild
rice. When I have time and aforethought, I make my own white & wild rice.
I try to keep the "cheese food" to a bare minimum

White & Wild Rice

1/4 c. raw wild rice
3/4 c. long grain white rice, uncooked
2 Tbs. butter
1 Tbs. dried parsley
1/2 tsp. bottled Kitchen Bouquet sauce
1/4 tsp. dried basil
1 small onion, minced
1/4 c. diced celery
2-1/2 c. chicken stock or broth
1/2 tsp. salt
1/4 tsp. rubbed sage
4 oz. sliced mushrooms

Preheat the oven to 350F degrees. In a saucepan, melt butter and cook and
stir wild rice, celery and unions until vegetables are tender. Pour into a
2 quart casserole dish sprayed with vegetable cooking spray. Heat the stock
to boiling. Pour over wild rice mixture; stir in salt, bouquet garni, sage,
basil and mushrooms. Cover and bake foir 45 minutes. Stir in white rice.
Cover and bake until all liquid is absorbed, about 40 minutes longer.
Remove from oven and let stand 5 minutes. Stir well before serving. Serves
8

Jill

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:38:59 -0400, levelwave >
wrote:

>Frogleg wrote:

>> Millions of Americans like McDonald's fries -- why not the rest
>> of the world? America has a zillion *AMERICANIZED* Chinese,
>> *AMERICANIZED* Thai, *AMERICANIZED* Italian, and *AMERICANIZED*
>> "Mexican" restaurants, as well as those specializing in the cuisine of
>> every country and continent.
>
>
>I agree 100% with Mr. Bourdain... The last thing I want to see in a
>foreign country is any remnants of Western Culture... America has
>already fallen victim to the "Individually Wrapped Prepackaged Single
>Serving" plague... and I don't want to see the rest of the world follow
>suit...
>
>~john!

You (and Bourdain) don't want to see remnants of Western culture in a
foreign country? Of course not, it ruins the TV show!

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

Cian O'Donnell wrote:
>>>Chicken McNuggets®:
>>>Chicken, water, salt, modified corn starch, <snip>
>>
>>
>>Is the term "chicken" regulated in any way?... If only chicken rectums
>>are used can they still legally just list "chicken"?...
>>
>>~john!
>
>
> So, why don't you tell us why chicken rectums would be considered
> inedible...? How much do you know about chicken rectums...?

Begs the question "Did you eat it's hole" :-)

James.

"levelwave" > wrote in message
...
> Bob Pastorio wrote:
>
> > Chicken McNuggets®:
> > Chicken, water, salt, modified corn starch, <snip>
>
>
> Is the term "chicken" regulated in any way?... If only chicken rectums
> are used can they still legally just list "chicken"?...

lmao! Thanks, I needed a good laugh today...

On 18 Oct 2003 16:05:22 GMT, (Rosie Miller) wrote:

>>
>>So perhaps neither is the "most" disturbing, but going to Planet
>>Hollywood and eating McDonalds Chicken Mcnuggets under Bruce Willis'
>>underwear _would_ be <shudder>.
>>
>>Bob
>>
>
>This is very very scary... but I need to add that one of their dinners at
>Planet Hollywood , features chicken rolled in mashed up Captain Crunch
>cereal... I find this pretty scary.
>Rosie

They were actually pretty good as an appetizer :>

Seriously. People cook chicken and put sweet stuff on it; jellies,
fruits, etc. why not a sweetened crunch cereal?

Fortunately I missed Bruce Willis' underwear, but Planet Hollywood is
a fun place for an occasional meal with out-of-town guests of a
certain age group.

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

>
>
>They were actually pretty good as an appetizer :>
>
>Seriously. People cook chicken and put sweet stuff on it; jellies,
>fruits, etc. why not a sweetened crunch cereal?
>
>Fortunately I missed Bruce Willis' underwear, but Planet Hollywood is
>a fun place for an occasional meal with out-of-town guests of a
>certain age group.
>
>Sue(tm)
>Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!
>
>
>My younger son thinks the Captain Crunch chicken thingys are WONDERFUL, but
then he liked the cereal when he was a kid, to me it was never good tasting at
all.
Rosie
>

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:54:28 -0500, "jmcquown"
> wrote:

>Cian O'Donnell wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:38:59 -0400, levelwave >
>> said
>>
>>> Frogleg wrote:
>>>
>> What's your problem with the "Individually Wrapped Prepackaged Single
>> Serving"...? Or is pretension just your nature...?
>> ________________
>> Cian O'Donnell

Well, evidently levelwave wrote something in response to *my* post,
and M. O'Donnell replied to that, but I do *not* cast nasturtiums on
others' opinions and ideas. Except when they're definitely nuts. :-)

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:38:59 -0400, levelwave >
wrote:

>Frogleg wrote:
>
>> McDonald's may produce qualms, but the article quotes Bourdain as
>> saying "When I go to a tiny little town in Morocco in the middle of
>> nowhere and there's a damn KFC or a Planet Hollywood or a Hard Rock
>> Cafe, that to me is the most frightening and disturbing." According to
>> their web site, there isn't a Planet Hollywood in Morocco. KFC plans
>> to expand there, but their efforts in the 70s were unsuccessful. There
>> is no listing for a Hard Rock Cafe in Morocco.
>
>I believe his "example" was *not* to be taken literally... but to prove
>a point...

You can't "prove a point" with fictional evidence. Mr. Bourdain
appears to be objecting to American-brand restaurants in places other
than the USA. He probably doesn't care to see Coke or Pampers or
RightGuard in 'foreign' countries, either.

>I agree 100% with Mr. Bourdain... The last thing I want to see in a
>foreign country is any remnants of Western Culture... America has
>already fallen victim to the "Individually Wrapped Prepackaged Single
>Serving" plague... and I don't want to see the rest of the world follow
>suit...

I don't think "individually wrapped" can be characterized as a
"plague." What I gather you (and perhaps Mr. Bourdain) are objecting
to is a homogenization of world culture and food. I think there's
little danger of this simply because a Big Mac is available in Paris
and there's a Disney World in Tokyo. It doesn't mean that France is
going to abandon careful cuisine, nor that the Japanese will give up
noodles and pachinko. The rest of the world doesn't have to be
maintained as a series of "authentic"theme parks to retain its
individuality.

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:48:14 GMT, (Curly
Sue) wrote:

>On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:38:59 -0400, levelwave >
>wrote:
>
>>Frogleg wrote:
>
>>> Millions of Americans like McDonald's fries -- why not the rest
>>> of the world? America has a zillion *AMERICANIZED* Chinese,
>>> *AMERICANIZED* Thai, *AMERICANIZED* Italian, and *AMERICANIZED*
>>> "Mexican" restaurants, as well as those specializing in the cuisine of
>>> every country and continent.

Once again, I did *not* write the above. Or rather, what I wrote was
altered without attribution.

In article >,
Frogleg > wrote:

> I don't think "individually wrapped" can be characterized as a
> "plague."

From an environmental standpoint all that unnecessary packaging can.

Miche

--
If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud.
-- Arlo Guthrie, "Alice's Restaurant"

levelwave wrote:

> Bob Pastorio wrote:
>=20
>> Chicken McNuggets=AE:
>> Chicken, water, salt, modified corn starch, <snip>
> =20
> Is the term "chicken" regulated in any way?... If only chicken rectums =

> are used can they still legally just list "chicken"?...

Yes, it is regulated. Have you ever seen "mechanically separated=20
chicken" on a label?

They only use rectums for the top of the line nuggets. When only the=20
very best will do.

The rest are just made with ordinary white meat and dark meat.

Pastorio

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:49:49 GMT, Frogleg > wrote:

>On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:48:14 GMT, (Curly
>Sue) wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:38:59 -0400, levelwave >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Frogleg wrote:
>>
>>>> Millions of Americans like McDonald's fries -- why not the rest
>>>> of the world? America has a zillion *AMERICANIZED* Chinese,
>>>> *AMERICANIZED* Thai, *AMERICANIZED* Italian, and *AMERICANIZED*
>>>> "Mexican" restaurants, as well as those specializing in the cuisine of
>>>> every country and continent.
>
>Once again, I did *not* write the above. Or rather, what I wrote was
>altered without attribution.

I am sorry that I didn't notice that what you had written had been
altered.

"Once again?" I saw nowhere and still don't see anywhere you have
placed a protest against the person who actually altered your words.

OTOH, you apparently think it's OK for you to imply that *I* had
altered your writing and then to leave out what I had written, despite
leaving my name on the top of the post?

Mine quotation error obviously an inadvertant mistake due to not
comparing the post I quoted with your original post; yours is just
plain nasty.

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

Bob Pastorio > wrote:
>levelwave wrote:
>> Bob Pastorio wrote:
>>> Chicken McNuggets®:
>>> Chicken, water, salt, modified corn starch, <snip>

Ewww. *Modified* corn starch. That is the most
disturbing and frightening thing--uh, what?

>> Is the term "chicken" regulated in any way?... If only chicken rectums
>> are used can they still legally just list "chicken"?...
>
>Yes, it is regulated. Have you ever seen "mechanically separated
>chicken" on a label?
>
>They only use rectums for the top of the line nuggets. When only the
>very best will do.

Here's a source for more information on the parameters
delineating quality in the given item:

"Some membrane properties of the circular muscle of chicken
rectum and its non-adrenergic non-cholinergic innervation",
S Komori and H Ohashi, Department of Veterinary Science,
Faculty of Agriculture, Gifu University, Japan,
in The Journal of Physiology, Vol 401, Issue 1 417-435, Copyright
© 1988 by The Physiological Society
http://www.jphysiol.org/cgi/content/abstract/401/1/417

--Blair
"And they say the Internet is dying."

On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:55:48 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

>> I dont' know what's more disturbing or frightening: the foods he
>> pointed out or the fact that he's an author and he describes
>> everything as "the most frightening and disturbing thing". Get a
>> thesaurus for the man, please.
>
> Ever heard of an "editor"? Apparently he can't describe anything another
> way without the assistance of one

That's the most frightening and disturbing thing I've ever read in rfc...

--
Darryl L. Pierce >
Visit the Infobahn Offramp - <http://bellsouthpwp.net/m/c/mcpierce>
"What do you care what other people think, Mr. Feynman?"

wrote:
> "lea" > wrote:
>
>> lol ... so true !
>> Later in the interview, Bourdain thought of another scary dining
>> experience: "Walking into Planet Hollywood and seeing Bruce Willis'
>> underwear hanging over your plate. I mean that to me is the most
>> disturbing and frightening."
>>
> So perhaps neither is the "most" disturbing, but going to Planet
> Hollywood and eating McDonalds Chicken Mcnuggets under Bruce Willis'
> underwear _would_ be <shudder>.

heh


--
Gold ODDY Winner, 2002

Curly Sue wrote:

> OTOH, you apparently think it's OK for you to imply that *I* had
> altered your writing and then to leave out what I had written, despite
> leaving my name on the top of the post?


He never said you altered his writing... he said you quoted him *with*
altered writing... I changed his quote to prove a point without proper
acknowledgement (sorry)...

....and Jill quoted *two* people for the same passage...

~john!

On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 01:30:51 -0400, levelwave >
wrote:

>Curly Sue wrote:
>
>> OTOH, you apparently think it's OK for you to imply that *I* had
>> altered your writing and then to leave out what I had written, despite
>> leaving my name on the top of the post?
>
>
>He never said you altered his writing... he said you quoted him *with*
>altered writing... I changed his quote to prove a point without proper
>acknowledgement (sorry)...

Right. No problem. It just made nonesense of my point of view to have
the meaning changed.

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:17:25 GMT, (Curly
Sue) wrote:

>On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:49:49 GMT, Frogleg > wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:48:14 GMT, (Curly
>>Sue) wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:38:59 -0400, levelwave >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Frogleg wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Millions of Americans like McDonald's fries -- why not the rest
>>>>> of the world? America has a zillion *AMERICANIZED* Chinese,
>>
>>Once again, I did *not* write the above. Or rather, what I wrote was
>>altered without attribution.
>
>I am sorry that I didn't notice that what you had written had been
>altered.
>
>"Once again?" I saw nowhere and still don't see anywhere you have
>placed a protest against the person who actually altered your words.

An earlier post in this thread also left my name in a msg that
contained nothing I'd written, but *did* have a barb (the
uncapitalized kind :-) against another poster. I will go back and beat
on Levelwave now. Although he *wasn't* the miscreant in the first
instance.

All these >>>'s get hard to follow sometimes. I was not scolding you;
just pointing out that I'd been misquoted/altered (whoof!)

On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:23:18 +1300, Miche >
wrote:

> Frogleg > wrote:
>
>> I don't think "individually wrapped" can be characterized as a
>> "plague."
>
>From an environmental standpoint all that unnecessary packaging can.

Well, perhaps. But that wasn't the poster's point that I was replying
to.

On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 01:30:51 -0400, levelwave >
wrote:

>Curly Sue wrote:
>
>> OTOH, you apparently think it's OK for you to imply that *I* had
>> altered your writing and then to leave out what I had written, despite
>> leaving my name on the top of the post?
>
>
>He never said you altered his writing... he said you quoted him *with*
>altered writing... I changed his quote to prove a point without proper
>acknowledgement (sorry)...

He wrote in response to my post:
>Once again, I did *not* write the above. Or rather, what I wrote was
>altered without attribution.

The clear impression was that I was the one who altered his words.
"With" has nothing to do with who is responsible.

I was responding to you and only kept his passage to make the flow of
conversation clear to readers. At least, if he had what I had
actually written it would have been clear that I was making comments
to you.

>...and Jill quoted *two* people for the same passage...
>
>~john!

What Jill does is not my responsibility. Any complaints should be
addressed directly to her.

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

Robocheese > wrote:

>
> Yikes. I hate that visual that lasts line gave me. Piles of chicken skin
> pressed in a trash compressor then formed into nuggets. And I do believe
> this is done. Yikes again.

Well, I hear this is at least how the reputable producers do it ;-)