I just watched One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest for the first time in 32
years. (AMC) I was 16 when I last saw it.

I expected it to be dated, and to have less of an impact, but I was just as
delighted as I was at 16 at some parts, and just as torn up at others.

The best movies can make you laugh out loud and boo hoo like a child in the
span of a few scenes.

One new thing: Jack Nicholson, at 38, was an old man to me when I first saw
the film. Now that I'm 48 he looked pretty good at that age, lol!

Another: I was originally really bothered by the portrayal of the bimbos who
MacMurphy got into the mental hospital because I saw it as really sexist and
demeaning. 32 years later I have lived long enough to realize such women
exist.

What a great film. It is my favorite film of all time, still.

On Jul 14, 10:51 pm, "cybercat" > wrote:
> I just watched One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest for the first time in 32
> years. (AMC) I was 16 when I last saw it.
>
> I expected it to be dated, and to have less of an impact, but I was just as
> delighted as I was at 16 at some parts, and just as torn up at others.
>
> The best movies can make you laugh out loud and boo hoo like a child in the
> span of a few scenes.
>
> One new thing: Jack Nicholson, at 38, was an old man to me when I first saw
> the film. Now that I'm 48 he looked pretty good at that age, lol!
>
> Another: I was originally really bothered by the portrayal of the bimbos who
> MacMurphy got into the mental hospital because I saw it as really sexist and
> demeaning. 32 years later I have lived long enough to realize such women
> exist.
>
> What a great film. It is my favorite film of all time, still.

I love that movie too--haven't seen it in years, now I know what to
rent next on Netflix!

I feel the same way about 2001--no matter how many times I see that
film, it is still just as interesting, and powerful as the first time
I saw it.

The Last Detail is another J Nickolson film (one of his earliest) that
packs quite a whollop--every time you see it.--tsr3

tsr3 wrote:
> On Jul 14, 10:51 pm, "cybercat" > wrote:
>> I just watched One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest for the first time in
>> 32 years. (AMC) I was 16 when I last saw it.
>>
>> I expected it to be dated, and to have less of an impact, but I was
>> just as delighted as I was at 16 at some parts, and just as torn up
>> at others.
>>
>> The best movies can make you laugh out loud and boo hoo like a child
>> in the span of a few scenes.
>>
>> One new thing: Jack Nicholson, at 38, was an old man to me when I
>> first saw the film. Now that I'm 48 he looked pretty good at that
>> age, lol!
>>
>> Another: I was originally really bothered by the portrayal of the
>> bimbos who MacMurphy got into the mental hospital because I saw it
>> as really sexist and demeaning. 32 years later I have lived long
>> enough to realize such women exist.
>>
>> What a great film. It is my favorite film of all time, still.
>
> I love that movie too--haven't seen it in years, now I know what to
> rent next on Netflix!
>
I, too, love that film. Sadly, seeing it the first time (at a drive-in
theater, no less) was the last time I went anywhere with my high school pal,
Ginger. She was killed in a head-on collision a couple of days later. So
for me, seeing One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is a bitter-sweet experience.

Jill

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 22:51:15 -0400, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>I just watched One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest for the first time in 32
>years. (AMC) I was 16 when I last saw it.
<snip>
>What a great film. It is my favorite film of all time, still.
>
It was OK, but I read the book first and movies are *never* as good as
the book for me.

I like SpaceBalls. I watch it once every 10 years or so. LOL



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<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 22:51:15 -0400, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
>>I just watched One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest for the first time in 32
>>years. (AMC) I was 16 when I last saw it.
> <snip>
>>What a great film. It is my favorite film of all time, still.
>>
> It was OK, but I read the book first and movies are *never* as good as
> the book for me.

We had that movie on the tube last night as well (I only watched bits and
pieces of it while I did other things). DH told me about when he was in high
school and had been assigned to read the book. He thought he'd be clever and
just watch the movie instead. Got a big fat 0 on the test because the
teacher deliberately asked questions based on events in the movie that
aren't in the book (e.g., the entire bus scene, which apparently isn't
mentioned in the book).

Mary

cybercat wrote:
> I just watched One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest for the first time in 32
> years. (AMC) I was 16 when I last saw it.
>
> I expected it to be dated, and to have less of an impact, but I was just as
> delighted as I was at 16 at some parts, and just as torn up at others.
>
> The best movies can make you laugh out loud and boo hoo like a child in the
> span of a few scenes.
>
> One new thing: Jack Nicholson, at 38, was an old man to me when I first saw
> the film. Now that I'm 48 he looked pretty good at that age, lol!
>
> Another: I was originally really bothered by the portrayal of the bimbos who
> MacMurphy got into the mental hospital because I saw it as really sexist and
> demeaning. 32 years later I have lived long enough to realize such women
> exist.
>
> What a great film. It is my favorite film of all time, still.
>
>
Also: Dr. Strangelove, 2001, Taxi driver, Dirty Harry & Patton.

go see "sicko"

"George" > wrote
>> What a great film. It is my favorite film of all time, still.
> Also: Dr. Strangelove, 2001, Taxi driver, Dirty Harry & Patton.

Yes indeed. You must belong to my generation!

"readandpostrosie" > wrote in message
...
> go see "sicko"
>
Why?

"MareCat" > wrote in message
news
> <sf> wrote in message ...
>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 22:51:15 -0400, "cybercat" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I just watched One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest for the first time in 32
>>>years. (AMC) I was 16 when I last saw it.
>> <snip>
>>>What a great film. It is my favorite film of all time, still.
>>>
>> It was OK, but I read the book first and movies are *never* as good as
>> the book for me.
>
> We had that movie on the tube last night as well (I only watched bits and
> pieces of it while I did other things). DH told me about when he was in
> high school and had been assigned to read the book. He thought he'd be
> clever and just watch the movie instead. Got a big fat 0 on the test
> because the teacher deliberately asked questions based on events in the
> movie that aren't in the book (e.g., the entire bus scene, which
> apparently isn't mentioned in the book).
>

I read the book after the movie, and have read all of Kesey's comments
about why he will not see the movie--mostly because the movie is not told
from the Chief's point of view, and because he really did not like Nicholson
for the part. I think he said "he smiles too much and he's too short."
(That's
what he gets for selling the movie rights so fast and not insisting on
control,
is what I say, though I would not change the movie at all. I bet he got paid
plenty.)

The most intelligent comments I have read about the movie have to be
Roger Ebert's, in both his original 1975 review and his later 2003
review. The portrayal of mental illness is the biggest flaw in the film,
he says, and I agree. FTR, I am not one who, even at 16, applauded
the "happy" side of the film (e.g. the "freeing" of the patients from
the oppression of Nurse Ratched). I just adored the character
Nicholson played and the way he played it, and what broke my
heart was the tragedy of such a funny "force of nature" ending
as he did, and for the reasons why.

I'm a major reader, and have been my whole life. It is my primary form
of entertainment.

At age 16, I cannot believe that the book would have moved me as
much as the movie, or shaped my life as strongly as it did.

In good ways, for certain but also in some bad ways from my
current point of view. (It helped entrench a strong knee-jerk,
mindless rebellion against any form of conformity or control.
And nothing "knee jerk" is good--except maybe "fight or
flight.")

cybercat wrote:
>
> I just watched One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest for the first time in 32
> years. (AMC) I was 16 when I last saw it.
>
> I expected it to be dated, and to have less of an impact, but I was just as
> delighted as I was at 16 at some parts, and just as torn up at others.
>
> The best movies can make you laugh out loud and boo hoo like a child in the
> span of a few scenes.
>
> One new thing: Jack Nicholson, at 38, was an old man to me when I first saw
> the film. Now that I'm 48 he looked pretty good at that age, lol!
>
> Another: I was originally really bothered by the portrayal of the bimbos who
> MacMurphy got into the mental hospital because I saw it as really sexist and
> demeaning. 32 years later I have lived long enough to realize such women
> exist.
>
> What a great film. It is my favorite film of all time, still.

Ever since I saw Jaws in the early '70s, I won't swim in any body of
water where sharks are located. I was rather traumatized <g>! Didn't
help either to see a large hammerhead cruising the (Alabama) Gulf within
six feet of the shore line a few years after watching that movie. I
think I'll stick with swimming pools instead (can't remember when that
last was!).

Sky

P.S. More than lik

Sky

<sf> wrote :
>
> I like SpaceBalls. I watch it once every 10 years or so. LOL
>

Never saw that one! I'll have to check it out.

Most profound and thoughtful movie I've seen;

Saving Private Ryan

The opening scenes during the landing,
bullets zinging all around.... people being blown to bits.

All I could think was; "Those poor *******s... those poor *******s"

I still get uncomfortable when I think of it.

<rj>

sf wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 22:51:15 -0400, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
>
>>I just watched One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest for the first time in 32
>>years. (AMC) I was 16 when I last saw it.
>
> <snip>
>
>>What a great film. It is my favorite film of all time, still.
>>
>
> It was OK, but I read the book first and movies are *never* as good as
> the book for me.
>
> I like SpaceBalls. I watch it once every 10 years or so. LOL
>
>
>
Brokeback Mountain, and not for the obvious reasons, i had completely
lost touch with my rural roots and that movie brought it back in a very
compelling way for me.

I actually at one point considered getting the cowboy hat & boots out of
storage and moving to Montana.

"This Property is Condemned" with Shelly Winters and Natali Wood had a
big impact on me. But then so did "The Great Race" with Tony Curtis and
Jack Lemon.

Jadorowski's "The Holy Mountain" is another that i was very impressed by.

East of Eden, Grapes of Wrath, sometimes its difficult to think a comedy
can be profound but Mel Brooks "to be or not to be" is one of my
favourite films and is a comedic re make of a "true story" that was
originally done as a drama. Not exactly "Schindlers List" but a close
second.
--
JL

cybercat wrote:

> <sf> wrote :
>
>>I like SpaceBalls. I watch it once every 10 years or so. LOL
>>
>
>
> Never saw that one! I'll have to check it out.
>
>
It's hilarious, what mell brooks film is not? but its even better if you
are familiar with the "star wars" films its a satire of.

I love the scene in "High Anxiety" where the Nurse Ratchet type
character says on the phone that the Dr. is all tied up at the moment
and so cant come to the phone, puts down the phone, goes to the closet,
opens the door and there's the Dr. literally all tied up and waiting for
his B&D session to begin.
--
JL

Sky wrote:

> cybercat wrote:
>
>>I just watched One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest for the first time in 32
>>years. (AMC) I was 16 when I last saw it.
>>
>>I expected it to be dated, and to have less of an impact, but I was just as
>>delighted as I was at 16 at some parts, and just as torn up at others.
>>
>>The best movies can make you laugh out loud and boo hoo like a child in the
>>span of a few scenes.
>>
>>One new thing: Jack Nicholson, at 38, was an old man to me when I first saw
>>the film. Now that I'm 48 he looked pretty good at that age, lol!
>>
>>Another: I was originally really bothered by the portrayal of the bimbos who
>>MacMurphy got into the mental hospital because I saw it as really sexist and
>>demeaning. 32 years later I have lived long enough to realize such women
>>exist.
>>
>>What a great film. It is my favorite film of all time, still.
>
>
> Ever since I saw Jaws in the early '70s, I won't swim in any body of
> water where sharks are located. I was rather traumatized <g>! Didn't
> help either to see a large hammerhead cruising the (Alabama) Gulf within
> six feet of the shore line a few years after watching that movie. I
> think I'll stick with swimming pools instead (can't remember when that
> last was!).
>
> Sky
>
> P.S. More than lik
>
> Sky

I couldn't take a shower for years after seeing Hitckocks "Psycho" ...
not an unusual reaction i have herd.
--
JL

Abe wrote:

>><sf> wrote :
>>
>>>I like SpaceBalls. I watch it once every 10 years or so. LOL
>>>
>>
>>Never saw that one! I'll have to check it out.
>>
>
> Also check out another Mel Brooks film, History of the world Pt. 1.
> Great stuff.


Call me a sentimental romantic fool but Striesands "Funny Girl" is one
of my favourites, i saw it on a hugh old big screen in a preserved
"movie palace" a few months ago, and even the opening credits were
impressive, i thought to my self, "now this is a movie" they just don't
make them like that any more.
--
JL

<RJ> wrote:

> Most profound and thoughtful movie I've seen;
>
> Saving Private Ryan
>
> The opening scenes during the landing,
> bullets zinging all around.... people being blown to bits.
>
> All I could think was; "Those poor *******s... those poor *******s"
>
> I still get uncomfortable when I think of it.
>
> <rj>

Aargh! yes that was such a good film i wish i had never seen it.
--
JL

On 2007-07-15, <RJ> > wrote:

> I still get uncomfortable when I think of it.

Bloodcurdling in its realism. I still choke up watching those opening
scenes.

Hitler's Buzzsaw. See scene 1:

http://www.efour4ever.com/machineguns_germany.htm

nb

"Joseph Littleshoes" > wrote in message
.. .
> <RJ> wrote:
>
>> Most profound and thoughtful movie I've seen;
>>
>> Saving Private Ryan
>>
>> The opening scenes during the landing,
>> bullets zinging all around.... people being blown to bits.
>>
>> All I could think was; "Those poor *******s... those poor *******s"
>>
>> I still get uncomfortable when I think of it.
>>
>> <rj>
>
> Aargh! yes that was such a good film i wish i had never seen it.



I walked out of the theatre in the first few minutes, when it was all
bullets slamming into meat. If you can't tell me something without
that, you can keep it to yourself.




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"Joseph Littleshoes" > wrote in message
.. .
> cybercat wrote:
>
>> <sf> wrote :
>>
>>>I like SpaceBalls. I watch it once every 10 years or so. LOL
>>>
>>
>>
>> Never saw that one! I'll have to check it out.
> It's hilarious, what mell brooks film is not? but its even better if you
> are familiar with the "star wars" films its a satire of.
>
> I love the scene in "High Anxiety" where the Nurse Ratchet type character
> says on the phone that the Dr. is all tied up at the moment and so cant
> come to the phone, puts down the phone, goes to the closet, opens the door
> and there's the Dr. literally all tied up and waiting for his B&D session
> to begin.
> --

SpaceBalls must be the only Mel Brooks film I missed! High Anxiety was
so good.



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Sky wrote:


>
> Ever since I saw Jaws in the early '70s, I won't swim in any body of
> water where sharks are located.


SNAP!


--
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A Clockwork Orange

My best bud and I got let into the original release (X-Rated for a few
weeks). We were 13-years-old.

Made us worry about our future!!!

The William Tell Overture never made any sense until...

One of the few films where the book and the movie were equally great!!!

Andy

Chatty Cathy wrote:
>
> Sky wrote:
>
> >
> > Ever since I saw Jaws in the early '70s, I won't swim in any body of
> > water where sharks are located.
>
> SNAP!
>
>
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy

VBG! hehehe

Sky

"Sky" > wrote in message
...
> Chatty Cathy wrote:
>>
>> Sky wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Ever since I saw Jaws in the early '70s, I won't swim in any body of
>> > water where sharks are located.
>>
>> SNAP!

>
> VBG! hehehe
>

I meant to post to you, that the same thing happened to me, and I bet it
saved me some problems. If I could not go into the water, I was not going to
the beach. Saved me some bad sunburns!



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On Jul 14, 9:51?pm, "cybercat" > wrote:
> I just watched One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest for the first time in 32
> years. (AMC) I was 16 when I last saw it.

> exist.
>
> What a great film. It is my favorite film of all time, still.

Oh !! Thank you for reminding me of it. I will have to get it out and
watch it again.

One of those movies I hated to see end.

Rosie

Sky wrote:

> Ever since I saw Jaws in the early '70s, I won't swim in any body of
> water where sharks are located. I was rather traumatized <g>! Didn't
> help either to see a large hammerhead cruising the (Alabama) Gulf within
> six feet of the shore line a few years after watching that movie. I
> think I'll stick with swimming pools instead (can't remember when that
> last was!).
>
> Sky

The witch in the Wizard of Oz frightened me. As an adult, I know she
was playing a character in the movie, but I would avoid her if she was
near me.<g>

Nothing is absolute, but it is doubtful that hammerheads would hurt you.
There are almost 400 species of sharks, yet only 4 are known for
unprovoked attacks; bull sharks, great white sharks, tiger sharks and
oceanic whitetip sharks. Still, you will probably avoid sharks, just
like I would avoid that actress from the Wizard of Oz. She is probably
dead, by now, so I know I'm safe. LOL

Becca

I've read the book "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" but have never seen
the movie. One movie I have seen and which made an impact on my life was
the old black-and-white version of "Flight of the Phoenix" with Jimmy
Stewart. It was done cheaply but with a good plot and acting.
A man died making that movie, and in the end scenes there are some
obvious edits attempting to cover for that, but it was deeply inspiring
nonetheless. And I've never since forgotten what a Kaufmann starter is...
The previews for the newer color version of that movie make it look as
though the writers had "gone Hollywood".

cybercat > wrote:
>I walked out of the theatre in the first few minutes, when it was all
>bullets slamming into meat. If you can't tell me something without
>that, you can keep it to yourself.

He was telling you "hello, welcome to war; if you can't
keep your seat, why would you ever vote for one?"

--Blair

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 13:19:49 -0700, Joseph Littleshoes
> wrote:

><RJ> wrote:
>
>> Most profound and thoughtful movie I've seen;
>>
>> Saving Private Ryan
>>
>> The opening scenes during the landing,
>> bullets zinging all around.... people being blown to bits.
>>
>> All I could think was; "Those poor *******s... those poor *******s"
>>
>> I still get uncomfortable when I think of it.
>>
>> <rj>
>
>Aargh! yes that was such a good film i wish i had never seen it.

Maybe it's because I have the xx gene.... but it didn't move me like
it seems to move men. Sure I remember the fighting scenes, but I
remember them because of the volume and only because I was bored to
death. Someone mentioned Patton earlier. The only scene I can
remember about it is the one him in front of the American flag giving
a speech. That's it.


--

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On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 09:59:41 -0700, Abe > wrote:

>>
>><sf> wrote :
>>>
>>> I like SpaceBalls. I watch it once every 10 years or so. LOL
>>>
>>
>>Never saw that one! I'll have to check it out.
>>
>Also check out another Mel Brooks film, History of the world Pt. 1.
>Great stuff.

Ah, yes... another classic! There are sooo many laugh out loud funny
scenes to enumerate, but here is my favorite
The Old Testament: Moses
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CB1r...elated&search=



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On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 13:10:10 -0700, Joseph Littleshoes
> wrote:

>But then so did "The Great Race" with Tony Curtis and Jack Lemon.

Ah.... the Great Race! That movie was my first date with hubby of
almost 33 years. I forgot my glasses and we sat far enough back that
I had to squint to see. I put my head on his shoulder so he wouldn't
see me squinting. Do you think I gave him the wrong message?


--

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On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:12:41 GMT, Steve Wertz
> wrote:

>On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 23:18:44 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>> It was OK, but I read the book first and movies are *never* as good as
>> the book for me.
>
>There are a few exceptions to that rule. Forest Gump, for
>example.
>
Which came first... the movie or the book?



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sf wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:12:41 GMT, Steve Wertz
> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 23:18:44 -0700, sf wrote:
>>
>>> It was OK, but I read the book first and movies are *never* as good
>>> as the book for me.
>>
>>There are a few exceptions to that rule. Forest Gump, for example.
>>
> Which came first... the movie or the book?

I dunno. But I read the book first, then saw the film (at the theatre;
I don't mean 10 years later on DVD). I enjoyed the book; I was
disappointed in the film.


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On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 13:10:10 -0700, Joseph Littleshoes
> wrote:
>
>East of Eden, Grapes of Wrath, sometimes its difficult to think a comedy
>can be profound but Mel Brooks "to be or not to be" is one of my
>favourite films and is a comedic re make of a "true story" that was
>originally done as a drama. Not exactly "Schindlers List" but a close
>second.

huh? mel's 'to be or not to be' was a remake of an ernst lubitsch
movie of the same name starring jack benny, which was unquestionably
great. i refused to see mel's because i was sure he'd make a hash of
it. if you ever have a chance to the original, do it.

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" > wrote
>
> huh? mel's 'to be or not to be' was a remake of an ernst lubitsch
> movie of the same name starring jack benny, which was unquestionably
> great. i refused to see mel's because i was sure he'd make a hash of
> it. if you ever have a chance to the original, do it.
>

You have many hats.

your stalker, cybercat



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cybercat wrote:
> "Joseph Littleshoes" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> <RJ> wrote:
>>
>>> Most profound and thoughtful movie I've seen;
>>>
>>> Saving Private Ryan
>>>
>>> The opening scenes during the landing,
>>> bullets zinging all around.... people being blown to bits.
>>>
>>> All I could think was; "Those poor *******s... those poor *******s"
>>>
>>> I still get uncomfortable when I think of it.
>>>
>>> <rj>
>> Aargh! yes that was such a good film i wish i had never seen it.
>
>
>
> I walked out of the theatre in the first few minutes, when it was all
> bullets slamming into meat. If you can't tell me something without
> that, you can keep it to yourself.
>
>

From everything I read it was a faithful portrayal of actual events
and was necessary to tell the story.

It wasn't a make believe "reality" show where people pretend to be
stranded somewhere with a camera crew, medics and a helicopter on hand.

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:51:28 -0400, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>
>"George" > wrote
>>> What a great film. It is my favorite film of all time, still.
>> Also: Dr. Strangelove, 2001, Taxi driver, Dirty Harry & Patton.
>
>Yes indeed. You must belong to my generation!
>
any fans of 'a thousand clowns'?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059798/

i like jason robards, and barry gordon as the kid was excellent.
gene saks as t.v.'s chuckles the chipmunk is very funny. just a great
flick.

your pal,
blake

<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 13:10:10 -0700, Joseph Littleshoes
> > wrote:
>
>>But then so did "The Great Race" with Tony Curtis and Jack Lemon.
>
> Ah.... the Great Race! That movie was my first date with hubby of
> almost 33 years. I forgot my glasses and we sat far enough back that
> I had to squint to see. I put my head on his shoulder so he wouldn't
> see me squinting. Do you think I gave him the wrong message?
>
haha! Apparently not! Congrats on your long and successful relationship.



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<sf> wrote
> Someone mentioned Patton earlier. The only scene I can
> remember about it is the one him in front of the American flag giving
> a speech. That's it.
>

The movie Patton f*cked me up. As did the song "Impossible Dream,"
which I wrote was my favorite song in the third grade. Those who know
me would say that this, plus being 4 when JFK was killed (insert the
stats for Bobby, MLK Jr., and Gandhi here) and the massive public
movement against the VietNam war. Squoze, shaped, fired and
glazed.

But it could have been worse. I could have been a child during the
80s. Although, I might have more money now if I had been.



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