How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?

What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
Secret with Spiderman on the box.

On Jul 4, 5:43 pm, Richard Fangnail >
wrote:
> How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
> popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?
>
> What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
> Secret with Spiderman on the box.

It's not butter. Troll.

--Bryan

On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 16:27:42 -0700, BOBOBOnoBO® >
wrote:

>On Jul 4, 5:43 pm, Richard Fangnail >
>wrote:
>> How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
>> popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?
>>
>> What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
>> Secret with Spiderman on the box.
>
>It's not butter. Troll.
>
>--Bryan

There sure are some rude people on usenet. When they dont like the
question or know the answer they shout "troll". I always wonder why
they dont just skip on to the next message and shutup, rather than
waste their time replying and waste everyone elses time who opens
their useless reply.

Now to answer the question. The "butter" is unlikely actual butter.
(I said unlikely because there may be a brand that does contain actual
butter). The ones I have tried all say "Butter Flavor".

This stuff is actually a mixture of oil and artificial flavoring.
It's not placed inside the popcorn seed, it's inside the bag as a semi
hard grease. As the popcorn pops, heat melts this flavored oil, which
spreads it to the popped corn. They also sell some other flavored
varieties these days. I tried a spicey hot pepper variety which we
just stumbled across while travelling. That stuff was really good.
Too bad we cant find it locally. There again, the flavor is just
added to the oils in the bag. I suppose the stuff is all trans-fats
and unhealthy as heck, but these days almost everything is bad for us.

I still like home popped (on the stove) popcorn with real better
poured over it, the best. But when one is on the go and in a hurry,
many of the microwave popcorns are not all that bad.

Julie

On Jul 5, 2:21 pm, wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 16:27:42 -0700, BOBOBOnoBO® >
> wrote:
>
> >On Jul 4, 5:43 pm, Richard Fangnail >
> >wrote:
> >> How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
> >> popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?
>
> >> What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
> >> Secret with Spiderman on the box.
>
> >It's not butter. Troll.
>
> >--Bryan
>
> There sure are some rude people on usenet. When they dont like the
> question or know the answer they shout "troll". I always wonder why
> they dont just skip on to the next message and shutup, rather than
> waste their time replying and waste everyone elses time who opens
> their useless reply.
>
> Now to answer the question. The "butter" is unlikely actual butter.
> (I said unlikely because there may be a brand that does contain actual
> butter). The ones I have tried all say "Butter Flavor".
>
> This stuff is actually a mixture of oil and artificial flavoring.
> It's not placed inside the popcorn seed, it's inside the bag as a semi
> hard grease. As the popcorn pops, heat melts this flavored oil, which
> spreads it to the popped corn. They also sell some other flavored
> varieties these days. I tried a spicey hot pepper variety which we
> just stumbled across while travelling. That stuff was really good.
> Too bad we cant find it locally. There again, the flavor is just
> added to the oils in the bag. I suppose the stuff is all trans-fats
> and unhealthy as heck, but these days almost everything is bad for us.
>
> I still like home popped (on the stove) popcorn with real better
> poured over it, the best. But when one is on the go and in a hurry,
> many of the microwave popcorns are not all that bad.
>
> Julie

We use the Whirlypop from Wabash Valley? I think that is the name...
making it on our own and knowing all of the ingredients we are putting
into
it is the only way to go!

Tom
www.itspuresoap.com
www.seo9oneone.com

Richard Fangnail > wrote:
>How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
>popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?

They put the grease in the bag with the unpopped corn.

When the corn pops, it gets the grease on it.

>What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
>Secret with Spiderman on the box.

The kind without butter is the best.

--Blair

Blair P. Houghton wrote:
> Richard Fangnail > wrote:
>> How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
>> popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?
>
> They put the grease in the bag with the unpopped corn.
>
> When the corn pops, it gets the grease on it.
>
>> What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
>> Secret with Spiderman on the box.
>
> The kind without butter is the best.
>
It's quite obvious school is out. Spiderman popcorn! Maybe his mommy will
teach him how to make real popcorn that doesn't require a microwave or
spiderman. Nawww, that would mean she's paying *attention* rather than
paying for him to go to the movies and letting him eat crap popcorn. Heaven
forbid.

Jill

On Jul 4, 7:08 pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> Blair P. Houghton wrote:
> > Richard Fangnail > wrote:
> >> How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
> >> popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?
>
> > They put the grease in the bag with the unpopped corn.
>
> > When the corn pops, it gets the grease on it.
>
> >> What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
> >> Secret with Spiderman on the box.
>
> > The kind without butter is the best.
>
> It's quite obvious school is out. Spiderman popcorn! Maybe his mommy will
> teach him how to make real popcorn that doesn't require a microwave or
> spiderman. Nawww, that would mean she's paying *attention* rather than
> paying for him to go to the movies and letting him eat crap popcorn. Heaven
> forbid.

As Blair wrote, it is "grease," and none of us are going to equate
grease with butter, right? Margarine/shortening are grease. Nearly
all the microwave popcorns have been made with hydrogenated oils
(grease). True, some of them are now made with healthier
"shortening," mostly palm oil, but God, that's only in response to
some really vocal folks who have been screaming about trans-fats,
while most others were willing to accept that stuff as OK.
Millions of Americans will die earlier of heart disease because
hydrogenated oils have stayed LEGAL for years after they should have
been banned.

>
> Jill

--Bryan

In om>, BOBOBOnoBO® wrote:
>On Jul 4, 7:08 pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>> Blair P. Houghton wrote:
>> > Richard Fangnail > wrote:
>> >> How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
>> >> popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?
>>
>> > They put the grease in the bag with the unpopped corn.
>>
>> > When the corn pops, it gets the grease on it.
>>
>> >> What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
>> >> Secret with Spiderman on the box.
>>
>> > The kind without butter is the best.
>>
>> It's quite obvious school is out. Spiderman popcorn! Maybe his mommy will
>> teach him how to make real popcorn that doesn't require a microwave or
>> spiderman. Nawww, that would mean she's paying *attention* rather than
>> paying for him to go to the movies and letting him eat crap popcorn. Heaven
>> forbid.
>
>As Blair wrote, it is "grease," and none of us are going to equate
>grease with butter, right? Margarine/shortening are grease. Nearly
>all the microwave popcorns have been made with hydrogenated oils
>(grease). True, some of them are now made with healthier
>"shortening," mostly palm oil, but God, that's only in response to
>some really vocal folks who have been screaming about trans-fats,
>while most others were willing to accept that stuff as OK.
>Millions of Americans will die earlier of heart disease because
>hydrogenated oils have stayed LEGAL for years after they should have
>been banned.

True...

Meanwhile, despite any hype, palm and coconut oils are very highly
saturated, hardly behind the few "fully saturated" ones such as
"fully hydrogenated" (which are trans-fat-free - trans is a bad kind of
unsaturated fat).

Trans is worst and saturated is second-worst. Fats of warm blooded
animals rank behind those, by being roughly or a little over 50% saturated
with little trans. Unhydrogenated non-tropical vegetable oils and oils of
cold water fishes do better by being low in both trans and saturated fats.

- Don Klipstein )

On Jul 4, 8:03 pm, (Don Klipstein) wrote:
> In om>, BOBOBOnoBO® wrote:
> >On Jul 4, 7:08 pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> >> Blair P. Houghton wrote:
> >> > Richard Fangnail > wrote:
> >> >> How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
> >> >> popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?
>
> >> > They put the grease in the bag with the unpopped corn.
>
> >> > When the corn pops, it gets the grease on it.
>
> >> >> What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
> >> >> Secret with Spiderman on the box.
>
> >> > The kind without butter is the best.
>
> >> It's quite obvious school is out. Spiderman popcorn! Maybe his mommy will
> >> teach him how to make real popcorn that doesn't require a microwave or
> >> spiderman. Nawww, that would mean she's paying *attention* rather than
> >> paying for him to go to the movies and letting him eat crap popcorn. Heaven
> >> forbid.
>
> >As Blair wrote, it is "grease," and none of us are going to equate
> >grease with butter, right? Margarine/shortening are grease. Nearly
> >all the microwave popcorns have been made with hydrogenated oils
> >(grease). True, some of them are now made with healthier
> >"shortening," mostly palm oil, but God, that's only in response to
> >some really vocal folks who have been screaming about trans-fats,
> >while most others were willing to accept that stuff as OK.
> >Millions of Americans will die earlier of heart disease because
> >hydrogenated oils have stayed LEGAL for years after they should have
> >been banned.
>
> True...
>
> Meanwhile, despite any hype, palm and coconut oils are very highly
> saturated, hardly behind the few "fully saturated" ones such as
> "fully hydrogenated" (which are trans-fat-free - trans is a bad kind of
> unsaturated fat).

Coconut oil IS bad. Palm KERNEL oil is bad. Palm oil (as opposed to
palm kernel oil) is not. Not all saturated fatty acids have the same
effects on blood lipoproteins.
Cocoa butter, which is highly saturated, has been shown to have a good
effect on lipoproteins. citation below:

Dark chocolate consumption increases HDL cholesterol concentration
and chocolate fatty acids may inhibit lipid peroxidation in healthy
humans.
Mursu J, Voutilainen S, Nurmi T, Rissanen TH, Virtanen JK,
Kaikkonen J, Nyyssönen K, Salonen JT.
Free Radic Biol Med. 2004 Nov 1;37(9):1351-9

Also, "Stearic acid, found in cocoa butter...has a neutral effect on
the plasma lipid profile." citation below:
Effects of antioxidants and fatty acids on low-density-lipoprotein
oxidation
CJ Fuller and I Jialal
American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, Vol 60, 1010S-1013S

Stearic acid is a fully saturated fatty acid.
The short chain saturated fats are also fine.
All trans fats are very bad, but saturated fats are far more
complicated than you described.
>
> - Don Klipstein )

--Bryan

On Jul 4, 8:37 pm, BOBOBOnoBO® > wrote:
> On Jul 4, 7:08 pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Blair P. Houghton wrote:
> > > Richard Fangnail > wrote:
> > >> How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
> > >> popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?
>
> > > They put the grease in the bag with the unpopped corn.
>
> > > When the corn pops, it gets the grease on it.
>
> > >> What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
> > >> Secret with Spiderman on the box.
>
> > > The kind without butter is the best.
>
> > It's quite obvious school is out. Spiderman popcorn! Maybe his mommy will
> > teach him how to make real popcorn that doesn't require a microwave or
> > spiderman. Nawww, that would mean she's paying *attention* rather than
> > paying for him to go to the movies and letting him eat crap popcorn. Heaven
> > forbid.
>
> As Blair wrote, it is "grease," and none of us are going to equate
> grease with butter, right? Margarine/shortening are grease. Nearly
> all the microwave popcorns have been made with hydrogenated oils
> (grease). True, some of them are now made with healthier
> "shortening," mostly palm oil, but God, that's only in response to
> some really vocal folks who have been screaming about trans-fats,
> while most others were willing to accept that stuff as OK.
> Millions of Americans will die earlier of heart disease because
> hydrogenated oils have stayed LEGAL for years after they should have
> been banned.

People will die "early" (early compared to what, BTW?) for all sorts
of things. Who are you to tell me what I can and cannot injest?

As I understand it, on Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:22:10 -0700, Larry Bud
> wrote:

[...]

>> As Blair wrote, it is "grease," and none of us are going to equate
>> grease with butter, right? Margarine/shortening are grease. Nearly
>> all the microwave popcorns have been made with hydrogenated oils
>> (grease). True, some of them are now made with healthier
>> "shortening," mostly palm oil, but God, that's only in response to
>> some really vocal folks who have been screaming about trans-fats,
>> while most others were willing to accept that stuff as OK.
>> Millions of Americans will die earlier of heart disease because
>> hydrogenated oils have stayed LEGAL for years after they should have
>> been banned.
>
>People will die "early" (early compared to what, BTW?) for all sorts
>of things. Who are you to tell me what I can and cannot injest?

Why Larry, don't you understand? There are those out there
who know all there is to know about everything. These people want to
make certain NO ONE has any enjoyment in life, ever.
Sadly, I'm only being half sarcastic.

--
Kent
The irony of life is that, by the time
you're old enough to know your way
around, you're not going anywhere.

On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 19:08:10 -0500, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>Blair P. Houghton wrote:
>> Richard Fangnail > wrote:
>>> How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
>>> popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?
>>
>> They put the grease in the bag with the unpopped corn.
>>
>> When the corn pops, it gets the grease on it.
>>
>>> What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
>>> Secret with Spiderman on the box.
>>
>> The kind without butter is the best.
>>
>It's quite obvious school is out. Spiderman popcorn! Maybe his mommy will
>teach him how to make real popcorn that doesn't require a microwave or
>spiderman. Nawww, that would mean she's paying *attention* rather than
>paying for him to go to the movies and letting him eat crap popcorn. Heaven
>forbid.
>
>Jill
>

i thought it was september when all those nasty college students got
their internet accounts that the goofballs came out. gosh, it's hard
to keep these usenet clichés straight.

but keep bitching about it, jill. that will send them scurrying
behind mama's skirts!

your pal,
blake

Richard Fangnail wrote:
> How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
> popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?
>
> What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
> Secret with Spiderman on the box.
>

My favorite is the one with the trolls on the box...

As I understand it, on Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:43:09 -0700, Richard
Fangnail > wrote:

>How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
>popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?
>
>What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
>Secret with Spiderman on the box.

I've never thought about it before, but my GUESS is that the
oil inside the bag is butter flavor. As the corn pops, the butter
flavored oil gets on the corn.

--
Kent
"I most stonger than Darth Vapor!"
-- Zladko "Zlad" Vladcik

In article >,
Kent Wills > wrote:

> As I understand it, on Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:43:09 -0700, Richard
> Fangnail > wrote:
>
> >How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
> >popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?
> >
> >What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
> >Secret with Spiderman on the box.
>
> I've never thought about it before, but my GUESS is that the
> oil inside the bag is butter flavor. As the corn pops, the butter
> flavored oil gets on the corn.

The butter flavor in microwave popcorn comes from a chemical called
diacetyl. This chemical is the subject of several lung injury lawsuits
by popcorn factory workers. Some workers have scaring of the lungs to
the point of needing lung transplants. This is also know as "popcorn
workers lung". These law suits have been much in the news lately, so I
am surprised that you haven't heard of them (and the chemical that gives
the butter flavor to microwave popcorn).

Just google for 'diacetyl' and you will get all kinds of information.

--
-Ernie-

As I understand it, on Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:45:59 -0700, Ernie Klein
> wrote:

>In article >,
> Kent Wills > wrote:
>
>> As I understand it, on Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:43:09 -0700, Richard
>> Fangnail > wrote:
>>
>> >How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
>> >popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?
>> >
>> >What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
>> >Secret with Spiderman on the box.
>>
>> I've never thought about it before, but my GUESS is that the
>> oil inside the bag is butter flavor. As the corn pops, the butter
>> flavored oil gets on the corn.
>
>The butter flavor in microwave popcorn comes from a chemical called
>diacetyl. This chemical is the subject of several lung injury lawsuits
>by popcorn factory workers. Some workers have scaring of the lungs to
>the point of needing lung transplants. This is also know as "popcorn
>workers lung". These law suits have been much in the news lately, so I
>am surprised that you haven't heard of them (and the chemical that gives
>the butter flavor to microwave popcorn).
>

Popcorn isn't a major interest of mine, so I haven't paid any
attention. On those rare occasions when I enjoy any, it's air popped.

>Just google for 'diacetyl' and you will get all kinds of information.
--
Kent
Recuerdo del Fin Del Mundo!

In >, Ernie Klein wrote:
>In article >,
> Kent Wills > wrote:
>
>> As I understand it, on Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:43:09 -0700, Richard
>> Fangnail > wrote:
>>
>> >How do they get the butter onto the popcorn? The edible part of the
>> >popcorn is inside the kernel before popping, isn't it?
>> >
>> >What is the best type of microwave popcorn with butter? I like Pop
>> >Secret with Spiderman on the box.
>>
>> I've never thought about it before, but my GUESS is that the
>> oil inside the bag is butter flavor. As the corn pops, the butter
>> flavored oil gets on the corn.
>
>The butter flavor in microwave popcorn comes from a chemical called
>diacetyl. This chemical is the subject of several lung injury lawsuits
>by popcorn factory workers. Some workers have scaring of the lungs to
>the point of needing lung transplants. This is also know as "popcorn
>workers lung". These law suits have been much in the news lately, so I
>am surprised that you haven't heard of them (and the chemical that gives
>the butter flavor to microwave popcorn).
>
>Just google for 'diacetyl' and you will get all kinds of information.

2,3-butanedione. Liquid that is miscible with water (mixes in any
ratio), and has a boiling point of 88 degrees C.

The molecule looks related to acetone and MEK. I know those permeate
through the body easily. In fact,

http://www.inchem.org/documents/icsc/icsc/eics1168.htm says it is absorbed
into the body through inhalation and skin.

I suspect that any vapor inhalation damaging only or mainly the lungs,
if possible, would be caused by very acute very severe exposure.

I am aware that its MSDS, at:

http://www.physchem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/BU...tanedione.html

mentions:

"Note that there is some evidence that chronic exposure to this compound
may contribute to the development of the potentially fatal condition
bronchiolitis obliterans. See, for example Eur. Respir. J., 24: 298-302
(2004)"

I suspect that if this was true, then it would take some fairly
concentrated vapors to do such a thing and that other ketones would also
do it.

I suspect popcorn workers actually injured by popcorn flavor fumes could
have been injured by something else but went after what appeared to them
or their lawyers to be the harshest chemical around.

If diacetyl does indeed have this lung hazard, some fairly ordinary
amount of ventillation should be enough to take care of it.

Diacetyl is not some Frankensteinish stuff not found in nature, but
exists in nature as a natural fermentation product. Some alcoholic
beverages are even made in ways that enhance content of diacetyl for its
flavor, notably some chardonnays.

- Don Klipstein )