you know I luv ya but you can see its a slippery slope to go nuts over "wah
lah" and stand firm when we all say its meaningless here but defend your put
of of its misery when it means something bad here?

as Wendy said dont let your hatred of Susan take you off the rails..

I say we from now on state if something has a different meaning to people
and try to respect that.

to me wah lah is perfectly fine but I would avoid saying it if it offends
you..simple as that

it is a fact that if you told a person her to put their injured animal out
of its misery you'd get a VERY negative reaction..or worse their kid or
loved one.

"Oh your grandmas sick?..put her out of her misery"...

that would be bad

imagine if "bright faced" here was a compliment and a insult there and
people kept saying what a bright faced family you have

KROM


"Ozgirl" wrote in message ...



"Evelyn" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:45:59 +1000, "Ozgirl"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"BlueBrooke" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 10:34:31 +1000, "Ozgirl"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>Anyone still want to tell me the phase ONLY means to euthanise?
>>>
>>> As applied to animals? Yes.
>>
>>And the proof of that statement is where?
>
>
> That is the only way I have ever heard it used...... in the USA. I
> grant you that it might be used differently where you are from, but
> here, that is the only way it would be interpreted. And by the way,
> you know I have no part in this argument, but I felt I should explain
> the usage here in the USA.
>
> Evelyn

Thank you and yes I do understand that you and others might have only
had experience with that but I have explained that was not my intent and
yet it isn't good enough. If I was nasty enough to suggest someone put
their pet down I wouldn't back away from my views. The statement would
still stand. And I definitely wouldn't have suggested ways and means to
relieve the pet's misery or discomfort.

"KROM" > wrote in message
...
> you know I luv ya but you can see its a slippery slope to go nuts
> over "wah lah" and stand firm when we all say its meaningless here but
> defend your put of of its misery when it means something bad here?

Krom I am not disputing that it means something different, I am saying
it has two meanings, both of which are in every dictionary online I have
looked at. Bottom line is, do you think I meant Susan should put Jasper
down, given the rest of the post was about treatment and followed a
number of posts dating back until at least August where I talked about
probiotics as a worthwhile thing to try for Jasper?

> as Wendy said dont let your hatred of Susan take you off the rails..

Not off the rails but when someone announces to all and sundry that
"Ozgirl wants to kill my cat" you don't think that worthy of defending?
I provided reputable sources and posted my history of suggestions, none
of which were malevolent posts. I don't know many people who wouldn't
defend themselves in those circumstances.

> I say we from now on state if something has a different meaning to
> people and try to respect that.

One has to know that before they write something, quite impossible. More
mature like behaviour would have been to ask me if I really meant the
cat should be put down as the idiom had, in their experience just one
meaning. Even after I explained the two meanings most wanted to believe
I really wanted to kill Susan's cat. How am I supposed to know most here
only have experience with one meaning before I write? I find it hard to
imagine that even after explanation a lot wanted to totally disregard
any other explanation about the while thing other than what they
personally wanted to believe.

> to me wah lah is perfectly fine but I would avoid saying it if it
> offends you..simple as that
>
> it is a fact that if you told a person her to put their injured animal
> out of its misery you'd get a VERY negative reaction..or worse their
> kid or loved one.
>
> "Oh your grandmas sick?..put her out of her misery"...
>
> that would be bad

It would be but I didn't say it in that context, I suggested ways of how
to put Jasper out of his misery and none of those reasons were death.

> imagine if "bright faced" here was a compliment and a insult there and
> people kept saying what a bright faced family you have

Not sure what bright faced means so I won't comment.

Thanks for the level headed response.

> KROM

On 12/01/2012 9:36 AM, Ozgirl wrote:
>
>
> "KROM" > wrote in message
> ...
>> you know I luv ya but you can see its a slippery slope to go nuts
>> over "wah lah" and stand firm when we all say its meaningless here but
>> defend your put of of its misery when it means something bad here?
>
> Krom I am not disputing that it means something different, I am saying
> it has two meanings, both of which are in every dictionary online I have
> looked at. Bottom line is, do you think I meant Susan should put Jasper
> down, given the rest of the post was about treatment and followed a
> number of posts dating back until at least August where I talked about
> probiotics as a worthwhile thing to try for Jasper?
>
>> as Wendy said dont let your hatred of Susan take you off the rails..
>
> Not off the rails but when someone announces to all and sundry that
> "Ozgirl wants to kill my cat" you don't think that worthy of defending?
> I provided reputable sources and posted my history of suggestions, none
> of which were malevolent posts. I don't know many people who wouldn't
> defend themselves in those circumstances.
>
>> I say we from now on state if something has a different meaning to
>> people and try to respect that.
>
> One has to know that before they write something, quite impossible. More
> mature like behaviour would have been to ask me if I really meant the
> cat should be put down as the idiom had, in their experience just one
> meaning. Even after I explained the two meanings most wanted to believe
> I really wanted to kill Susan's cat. How am I supposed to know most here
> only have experience with one meaning before I write? I find it hard to
> imagine that even after explanation a lot wanted to totally disregard
> any other explanation about the while thing other than what they
> personally wanted to believe.
>
>> to me wah lah is perfectly fine but I would avoid saying it if it
>> offends you..simple as that
>>
>> it is a fact that if you told a person her to put their injured animal
>> out of its misery you'd get a VERY negative reaction..or worse their
>> kid or loved one.
>>
>> "Oh your grandmas sick?..put her out of her misery"...
>>
>> that would be bad
>
> It would be but I didn't say it in that context, I suggested ways of how
> to put Jasper out of his misery and none of those reasons were death.
>
>> imagine if "bright faced" here was a compliment and a insult there and
>> people kept saying what a bright faced family you have
>
> Not sure what bright faced means so I won't comment.
>
> Thanks for the level headed response.
>
>> KROM
>
>

Problem is those that decided it was a great opportunity to attack Jan
on this occasion and others on other occasions just don't want the truth
to stand in the way of an argument regardless.

Try he

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppK6sxz6epk

Go for the full half hour and get it out of your system.

:-)

(- -)
=m=(_)=m=
RodS T2
Australia

yes I wasnt arguing about the argument..lol..I was simply stating the first
reaction pretty much 99 percent of all Americans would have to that
statement.
I was barely skimming the fight as that holds no interest for me..but saw
that statement and the back and forth on it.

Google by the way has regional filters.

its sort of crappy but true..in a southern state they may promote a result
different then a northern state...a rich area different then a poor.

So when I Google that statement I get zero results of it having a meaning
other then kill

you very well could have meant kill as a human last resort..again I wasnt
paying attention..

if she had said my cat so sick it is in constant pain and the vet said I
should put it to sleep but I dont want to and it is blind and unable to eat
and howling in pain constantly etc etc etc.

a reasonable person would say "for god sakes woman put the animal down/to
sleep because your being cruel to it keeping it suffering."

that would be perfectly reasonable..but even if that was the case the debate
was on the meaning to 99 percent of us here of that statement...not its
context

so to answer no I dont think your a cat serial killer..lol

KROM


"Ozgirl" wrote in message ...



"KROM" > wrote in message
...
> you know I luv ya but you can see its a slippery slope to go nuts over
> "wah lah" and stand firm when we all say its meaningless here but defend
> your put of of its misery when it means something bad here?

Krom I am not disputing that it means something different, I am saying
it has two meanings, both of which are in every dictionary online I have
looked at. Bottom line is, do you think I meant Susan should put Jasper
down, given the rest of the post was about treatment and followed a
number of posts dating back until at least August where I talked about
probiotics as a worthwhile thing to try for Jasper?

> as Wendy said dont let your hatred of Susan take you off the rails..

Not off the rails but when someone announces to all and sundry that
"Ozgirl wants to kill my cat" you don't think that worthy of defending?
I provided reputable sources and posted my history of suggestions, none
of which were malevolent posts. I don't know many people who wouldn't
defend themselves in those circumstances.

> I say we from now on state if something has a different meaning to people
> and try to respect that.

One has to know that before they write something, quite impossible. More
mature like behaviour would have been to ask me if I really meant the
cat should be put down as the idiom had, in their experience just one
meaning. Even after I explained the two meanings most wanted to believe
I really wanted to kill Susan's cat. How am I supposed to know most here
only have experience with one meaning before I write? I find it hard to
imagine that even after explanation a lot wanted to totally disregard
any other explanation about the while thing other than what they
personally wanted to believe.

> to me wah lah is perfectly fine but I would avoid saying it if it offends
> you..simple as that
>
> it is a fact that if you told a person her to put their injured animal out
> of its misery you'd get a VERY negative reaction..or worse their kid or
> loved one.
>
> "Oh your grandmas sick?..put her out of her misery"...
>
> that would be bad

It would be but I didn't say it in that context, I suggested ways of how
to put Jasper out of his misery and none of those reasons were death.

> imagine if "bright faced" here was a compliment and a insult there and
> people kept saying what a bright faced family you have

Not sure what bright faced means so I won't comment.

Thanks for the level headed response.

> KROM