"Evelyn" > wrote in message
...
> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you get
> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will it
> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi


Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do anything
wise in this world.
~Helen Keller

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
>> get
>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will
>> it
>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>
>
> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
> anything wise in this world.
> ~Helen Keller

This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look at
yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.

"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you get
>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will it
>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>
>>
>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>> anything wise in this world.
>> ~Helen Keller
>
> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look at
> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.


No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan that way
every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about the FOAD that
Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good look at
yourself before taking others to task.

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
>>>> get
>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will
>>>> it
>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>
>>>
>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>> anything wise in this world.
>>> ~Helen Keller
>>
>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look
>> at yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>
>
> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan
> that way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about
> the FOAD that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a
> good look at yourself before taking others to task.

Susan is not a saint and never will be. She makes unprovoked attacks at
every opportunity and she gets back what she gives out. You do know the
difference between people tit for tatting with Susan and the behaviour
of many shown towards Julie.

On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 12:01:45 +1000, "Ozgirl"
> wrote:

>
>
>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
>>>>> get
>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will
>>>>> it
>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>
>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look
>>> at yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>>
>>
>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan
>> that way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about
>> the FOAD that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a
>> good look at yourself before taking others to task.
>
>Susan is not a saint and never will be. She makes unprovoked attacks at
>every opportunity and she gets back what she gives out. You do know the
>difference between people tit for tatting with Susan and the behaviour
>of many shown towards Julie.


NONE of us are saints, neither Susan nor Julie or you or I. There is
no mistaking the term FOAD. It means **** off and die. Not nice by
any means!

I hope this nasty stuff gets settled soon!

Peace!

Evelyn

"Evelyn" > wrote in message
...

> I hope this nasty stuff gets settled soon!
>
> Peace!
>
> Evelyn

Peace to you too Evelyn xx

"Evelyn" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 12:01:45 +1000, "Ozgirl"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>>
>>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look
>>>> at yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
>>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>>>
>>>
>>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan
>>> that way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about
>>> the FOAD that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a
>>> good look at yourself before taking others to task.
>>
>>Susan is not a saint and never will be. She makes unprovoked attacks at
>>every opportunity and she gets back what she gives out. You do know the
>>difference between people tit for tatting with Susan and the behaviour
>>of many shown towards Julie.
>
>
> NONE of us are saints, neither Susan nor Julie or you or I. There is
> no mistaking the term FOAD. It means **** off and die. Not nice by
> any means!
>
> I hope this nasty stuff gets settled soon!
>
> Peace!

And it wasn't meant to be nice. I am not a doormat. And I am not here to
be verbally abused over and over again. Seems many people here seem to
think it is okay to do it to me. Ah but when I do it to them? Well!

On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:42:59 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 12:01:45 +1000, "Ozgirl"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>>>
>>>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look
>>>>> at yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
>>>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan
>>>> that way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about
>>>> the FOAD that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a
>>>> good look at yourself before taking others to task.
>>>
>>>Susan is not a saint and never will be. She makes unprovoked attacks at
>>>every opportunity and she gets back what she gives out. You do know the
>>>difference between people tit for tatting with Susan and the behaviour
>>>of many shown towards Julie.
>>
>>
>> NONE of us are saints, neither Susan nor Julie or you or I. There is
>> no mistaking the term FOAD. It means **** off and die. Not nice by
>> any means!
>>
>> I hope this nasty stuff gets settled soon!
>>
>> Peace!
>
>And it wasn't meant to be nice. I am not a doormat. And I am not here to
>be verbally abused over and over again. Seems many people here seem to
>think it is okay to do it to me. Ah but when I do it to them? Well!


Julie, we cannot possibly control other people, but if you think to
yourself, "what will be the result of telling someone to **** off and
die, will it bring peace? Will it escalate the problems? Will it
help anyone? Will it help me?"...... I think you will discover that
the answer to all of those questions is "no".

We all get on one anothers nerves from time to time. You and I had a
few words a while back and I was sorry that it happened and we both
made some effort to smooth it all over.

That needs to happen in this instance too, sooner or later.

Evelyn

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you get
>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will it
>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>
>>>
>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>> anything wise in this world.
>>> ~Helen Keller
>>
>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look at
>> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>
>
> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan that
> way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about the FOAD
> that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good look at
> yourself before taking others to task.

AFAIK, Ozgirl has never said anything unkind to me. However there are quite
a few dogpilers in here who are doing it now. Including those who say they
don't. One makes bad comments about my canned chicken or canned broth and
then complains that *I* say something is disgusting? Complains about *my*
buying prepared foods and then posts on how to reuse rotisserie chicken? I
don't get it. I really don't.

And still the question remains. Which post was it that was supposed to have
been of interest to me? I have asked this repeatedly now and that is how
this all started. And yet nobody can take the time to answer.

On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:41:28 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you get
>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will it
>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>
>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look at
>>> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>>
>>
>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan that
>> way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about the FOAD
>> that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good look at
>> yourself before taking others to task.
>
>AFAIK, Ozgirl has never said anything unkind to me. However there are quite
>a few dogpilers in here who are doing it now. Including those who say they
>don't. One makes bad comments about my canned chicken or canned broth and
>then complains that *I* say something is disgusting? Complains about *my*
>buying prepared foods and then posts on how to reuse rotisserie chicken? I
>don't get it. I really don't.
>
>And still the question remains. Which post was it that was supposed to have
>been of interest to me? I have asked this repeatedly now and that is how
>this all started. And yet nobody can take the time to answer.


For your information, a rotisserie chicken is a FRESH chicken, cooked
in the store, THAT DAY as opposed to being cooked in my house.

On the other hand, canned broth may have been made a year ago. We
have no way of knowing how old it is, not to mention the very fact of
it being canned isn't really good for you. Cans are lined with
plastic containing carcinogens.

In spite of that, I occasionally will use canned broth when I am in a
hurry too. Fresh is always better than prepared foods. A FRESH
chicken (no matter where it is cooked) is not the same thing as
something in a can or a box meant to last for months on end.

Evelyn

"Evelyn" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:41:28 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>>
>>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look at
>>>> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
>>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>>>
>>>
>>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan that
>>> way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about the FOAD
>>> that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good look
>>> at
>>> yourself before taking others to task.
>>
>>AFAIK, Ozgirl has never said anything unkind to me. However there are
>>quite
>>a few dogpilers in here who are doing it now. Including those who say
>>they
>>don't. One makes bad comments about my canned chicken or canned broth and
>>then complains that *I* say something is disgusting? Complains about *my*
>>buying prepared foods and then posts on how to reuse rotisserie chicken?
>>I
>>don't get it. I really don't.
>>
>>And still the question remains. Which post was it that was supposed to
>>have
>>been of interest to me? I have asked this repeatedly now and that is how
>>this all started. And yet nobody can take the time to answer.
>
>
> For your information, a rotisserie chicken is a FRESH chicken, cooked
> in the store, THAT DAY as opposed to being cooked in my house.
>
> On the other hand, canned broth may have been made a year ago. We
> have no way of knowing how old it is, not to mention the very fact of
> it being canned isn't really good for you. Cans are lined with
> plastic containing carcinogens.
>
I buy organic boxed broth most of the time. As for cans, I have no problems
with eating canned food and I think neither do most people who live in this
country/

> In spite of that, I occasionally will use canned broth when I am in a
> hurry too. Fresh is always better than prepared foods. A FRESH
> chicken (no matter where it is cooked) is not the same thing as
> something in a can or a box meant to last for months on end.

Fresh is not always better, IMO. Obviously it is in yours. I do watch Food
Network and other cooking shows. Those chefs on there are advocates of
canned and boxed broths.

I was just pointing out how on the one hand you get upset with me for not
liking something. But you feel it is okay for you to not like something.
And it's not just you. Susan says Tom doesn't eat salmon. No, she didn't
say why. But if *I* were to say that I didn't eat salmon, someone would
sure pipe right up and call me out on it.

On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:03:08 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:41:28 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>>>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>>>>> anything wise in this world.
>>>>>> ~Helen Keller
>>>>>
>>>>> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look at
>>>>> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
>>>>> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan that
>>>> way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about the FOAD
>>>> that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good look
>>>> at
>>>> yourself before taking others to task.
>>>
>>>AFAIK, Ozgirl has never said anything unkind to me. However there are
>>>quite
>>>a few dogpilers in here who are doing it now. Including those who say
>>>they
>>>don't. One makes bad comments about my canned chicken or canned broth and
>>>then complains that *I* say something is disgusting? Complains about *my*
>>>buying prepared foods and then posts on how to reuse rotisserie chicken?
>>>I
>>>don't get it. I really don't.
>>>
>>>And still the question remains. Which post was it that was supposed to
>>>have
>>>been of interest to me? I have asked this repeatedly now and that is how
>>>this all started. And yet nobody can take the time to answer.
>>
>>
>> For your information, a rotisserie chicken is a FRESH chicken, cooked
>> in the store, THAT DAY as opposed to being cooked in my house.
>>
>> On the other hand, canned broth may have been made a year ago. We
>> have no way of knowing how old it is, not to mention the very fact of
>> it being canned isn't really good for you. Cans are lined with
>> plastic containing carcinogens.
>>
>I buy organic boxed broth most of the time. As for cans, I have no problems
>with eating canned food and I think neither do most people who live in this
>country/
>
>> In spite of that, I occasionally will use canned broth when I am in a
>> hurry too. Fresh is always better than prepared foods. A FRESH
>> chicken (no matter where it is cooked) is not the same thing as
>> something in a can or a box meant to last for months on end.
>
>Fresh is not always better, IMO. Obviously it is in yours. I do watch Food
>Network and other cooking shows. Those chefs on there are advocates of
>canned and boxed broths.
>
>I was just pointing out how on the one hand you get upset with me for not
>liking something. But you feel it is okay for you to not like something.
>And it's not just you. Susan says Tom doesn't eat salmon. No, she didn't
>say why. But if *I* were to say that I didn't eat salmon, someone would
>sure pipe right up and call me out on it.


That's the way life is......

Notice that my recipe which had one very small potato for a whole pot
of soup, and a quarter of a cup of rice, got jumped on too.

So what?

Anyone who doesn't like those items can just leave them out.

Evelyn

On 1/4/2012 7:55 PM, Evelyn wrote:
> For your information, a rotisserie chicken is a FRESH chicken, cooked
> in the store, THAT DAY as opposed to being cooked in my house.
>
> On the other hand, canned broth may have been made a year ago. We
> have no way of knowing how old it is, not to mention the very fact of
> it being canned isn't really good for you. Cans are lined with
> plastic containing carcinogens.
>
> In spite of that, I occasionally will use canned broth when I am in a
> hurry too. Fresh is always better than prepared foods. A FRESH
> chicken (no matter where it is cooked) is not the same thing as
> something in a can or a box meant to last for months on end.
>
> Evelyn


grin, i do believe we have a conceptual problem here, most likely not
fixable

Evelyn, i use the broth in the 'boxes' for lack of better word, only
because those contain less salt............ is there plastic to worry
about there too? (i make most chicken broth, this is for those 'oops'
situations)

i think i'm going to have some highly process Hawkin's Cheesies right
now, i have 15 min more that i'm allowed to eat

or maybe ...........



kate

On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:43:02 -0700, Tiger Lily > wrote:

>On 1/4/2012 7:55 PM, Evelyn wrote:
>> For your information, a rotisserie chicken is a FRESH chicken, cooked
>> in the store, THAT DAY as opposed to being cooked in my house.
>>
>> On the other hand, canned broth may have been made a year ago. We
>> have no way of knowing how old it is, not to mention the very fact of
>> it being canned isn't really good for you. Cans are lined with
>> plastic containing carcinogens.
>>
>> In spite of that, I occasionally will use canned broth when I am in a
>> hurry too. Fresh is always better than prepared foods. A FRESH
>> chicken (no matter where it is cooked) is not the same thing as
>> something in a can or a box meant to last for months on end.
>>
>> Evelyn
>
>
>grin, i do believe we have a conceptual problem here, most likely not
>fixable
>
>Evelyn, i use the broth in the 'boxes' for lack of better word, only
>because those contain less salt............ is there plastic to worry
>about there too? (i make most chicken broth, this is for those 'oops'
>situations)
>
>i think i'm going to have some highly process Hawkin's Cheesies right
>now, i have 15 min more that i'm allowed to eat
>
>or maybe ...........
>
>
>
>kate


The liners in boxes and in cans is turning out to be a bigger problem
than anyone is overtly admitting. EVERYTHING comes in plastic of
some kind these days.

Even bottled water....

Evelyn

Julie Bove > wrote:

: "Cheri" > wrote in message
: ...
: > "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
: > ...
: >>
: >>
: >> "Cheri" > wrote in message
: >> ...
: >>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
: >>> ...
: >>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
: >>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
: >>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you get
: >>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will it
: >>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
: >>> anything wise in this world.
: >>> ~Helen Keller
: >>
: >> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look at
: >> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
: >> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
: >
: >
: > No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan that
: > way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about the FOAD
: > that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good look at
: > yourself before taking others to task.

: AFAIK, Ozgirl has never said anything unkind to me. However there are quite
: a few dogpilers in here who are doing it now. Including those who say they
: don't. One makes bad comments about my canned chicken or canned broth and
: then complains that *I* say something is disgusting? Complains about *my*
: buying prepared foods and then posts on how to reuse rotisserie chicken? I
: don't get it. I really don't.

: And still the question remains. Which post was it that was supposed to have
: been of interest to me? I have asked this repeatedly now and that is how
: this all started. And yet nobody can take the time to answer.

I just wrote about that on the other thread. I believe it was the use of
pureed meat and vegetables like ozgirls's friend even if you are supposed
to be past that stage. If it works to eat soupy pureed meat adn veggie
soup, try it.

Less strain on your digestive system.

Wendy

"W. Baker" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove > wrote:
>
> : "Cheri" > wrote in message
> : ...
> : > "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
> : > ...
> : >>
> : >>
> : >> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> : >> ...
> : >>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
> : >>> ...
> : >>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
> : >>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
> : >>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
> get
> : >>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will
> it
> : >>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
> : >>>
> : >>>
> : >>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
> : >>> anything wise in this world.
> : >>> ~Helen Keller
> : >>
> : >> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look
> at
> : >> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
> : >> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
> : >
> : >
> : > No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan
> that
> : > way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about the
> FOAD
> : > that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good look
> at
> : > yourself before taking others to task.
>
> : AFAIK, Ozgirl has never said anything unkind to me. However there are
> quite
> : a few dogpilers in here who are doing it now. Including those who say
> they
> : don't. One makes bad comments about my canned chicken or canned broth
> and
> : then complains that *I* say something is disgusting? Complains about
> *my*
> : buying prepared foods and then posts on how to reuse rotisserie chicken?
> I
> : don't get it. I really don't.

That's part of your pattern Julie, you say outrageous things at times, and
keep saying them until you **** people off enough that they respond in
kind...and then Jan rushes to your defense with the "poor little Julie"
thing, and all of a sudden you're playing the victim with a bunch of old
"meanie heads" attacking you for no reason. As another poster said, it's
predictable, and will probably happen again sooner or later...when you get
bored with no attention.

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
> "W. Baker" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove > wrote:
>>
>> : "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> : ...
>> : > "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>> : > ...
>> : >>
>> : >>
>> : >> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> : >> ...
>> : >>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>> : >>> ...
>> : >>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your
>> trouble.
>> : >>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>> : >>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
>> get
>> : >>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long
>> will it
>> : >>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>> : >>>
>> : >>>
>> : >>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>> : >>> anything wise in this world.
>> : >>> ~Helen Keller
>> : >>
>> : >> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look
>> at
>> : >> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
>> : >> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>> : >
>> : >
>> : > No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan
>> that
>> : > way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about the
>> FOAD
>> : > that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good
>> look at
>> : > yourself before taking others to task.
>>
>> : AFAIK, Ozgirl has never said anything unkind to me. However there are
>> quite
>> : a few dogpilers in here who are doing it now. Including those who say
>> they
>> : don't. One makes bad comments about my canned chicken or canned broth
>> and
>> : then complains that *I* say something is disgusting? Complains about
>> *my*
>> : buying prepared foods and then posts on how to reuse rotisserie
>> chicken? I
>> : don't get it. I really don't.
>
> That's part of your pattern Julie, you say outrageous things at times, and
> keep saying them until you **** people off enough that they respond in
> kind...and then Jan rushes to your defense with the "poor little Julie"
> thing, and all of a sudden you're playing the victim with a bunch of old
> "meanie heads" attacking you for no reason. As another poster said, it's
> predictable, and will probably happen again sooner or later...when you get
> bored with no attention.

You don't even know the whole story Cheri. One of the people here sent me
an e-mail that was very weird, didn't make any sense and told me to tell her
to FOAD via e-mail. And no, I am not going to repost it here. This on the
very day that Robert made the post to me. Whether or not there is a
connection I do not know. I was trying to sort that out but I have given up
on that now! This whole thing has blown up in a bad way.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
> "W. Baker" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove > wrote:
>>
>> : "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> : ...
>> : > "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>> : > ...
>> : >>
>> : >>
>> : >> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> : >> ...
>> : >>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>> : >>> ...
>> : >>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your
>> trouble.
>> : >>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life
>> the
>> : >>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can
>> you get
>> : >>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long
>> will it
>> : >>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>> : >>>
>> : >>>
>> : >>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can
>> never do
>> : >>> anything wise in this world.
>> : >>> ~Helen Keller
>> : >>
>> : >> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good
>> look at
>> : >> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being
>> is
>> : >> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>> : >
>> : >
>> : > No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat
>> Susan that
>> : > way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about
>> the FOAD
>> : > that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good
>> look at
>> : > yourself before taking others to task.
>>
>> : AFAIK, Ozgirl has never said anything unkind to me. However there
>> are quite
>> : a few dogpilers in here who are doing it now. Including those who
>> say they
>> : don't. One makes bad comments about my canned chicken or canned
>> broth and
>> : then complains that *I* say something is disgusting? Complains
>> about *my*
>> : buying prepared foods and then posts on how to reuse rotisserie
>> chicken? I
>> : don't get it. I really don't.
>
> That's part of your pattern Julie, you say outrageous things at times,
> and keep saying them until you **** people off enough that they
> respond in kind...and then Jan rushes to your defense with the "poor
> little Julie" thing,

That is not true. I object to people pushing advice on someone who
doesn't want it then getting hostile and insulting when their
unsolicited offered are rebuffed. If Julie just randomly started telling
people off in unprovoked attacks then she would deserve to be abused
back.

and all of a sudden you're playing the victim with a bunch of old
> "meanie heads" attacking you for no reason. As another poster said,
> it's predictable, and will probably happen again sooner or
> later...when you get bored with no attention.

She posts a huge amount of stuff and the only stuff that gets commented
on are her personal dislikes and things she says are yewww, vile,
disgusting, whatever. If it was about attention she would be demanding
it in every subject she posts about.

Susan mentioned the past post about what Dorothy posted to Julie (in a
response to a post from Evelyn). What you said at the time follows:

"Meanness alert !!!!
You have put the facts as gently and kindly as possible.
However, this silly bitch just doesn't deserve that kind of
consideration from me.
She denies spoiling her daughter. But goes out in foul weather to buy
knitting needles ? All the while, whining endlessly about driving
conditions. She feeds an overweight gal french fries and I'm sure buys
her precious
darling other unhealthy treats.
Her callous disregard and obvious disdain for any constructive
suggestions
should be a clue to all as to the sort of person she is, and the
attitudes she espouses.
Most of us have or have had health problems, and yet do not feel the
need
to burden newsgroups with totally unrelated / off topic crap about our
personal lives. Yet - not a day goes by without some half wit post or
posts from this silly article. Still, some people seem to dote on
her as though she were a damaged child, and not a selfish, if clueless
adult.
I have her filtered, to avoid wasting time and space on her vapid
drivel.
And I agree, she needs professional, mental counseling."

Cheri:

"What purpose does the meaness serve though?

> You have put the facts as gently and kindly as possible.

That's what support groups do, and Evelyn is always kind, even when
she's
frustrated.

> However, this silly bitch just doesn't deserve that kind of
> consideration from me.

What she doesn't deserve is to be called names like that.

> She denies spoiling her daughter. But goes out in foul weather to buy
> knitting needles ? All the while, whining endlessly about driving
> conditions. She feeds an overweight gal french fries and I'm sure
> buys her precious darling other unhealthy treats.

Which is her own business IMO.

> Her callous disregard and obvious disdain for any constructive
> suggestions should be a clue to all as to the sort of person she is,
> and the attitudes she espouses.

For many, many years...Julie has said that she mostly needs to vent, and
that she's NOT at all interested in advice in most cases. I take her at
her
word, and allowing a diabetic to vent without harsh judgment is support
too
IMO.

> Most of us have or have had health problems, and yet do not feel the
> need to burden newsgroups with totally unrelated / off topic crap
> about our personal lives. Yet - not a day goes by without some half
> wit post or posts from this silly article. Still, some people seem to
> dote on her as though she were a damaged child, and not a selfish, if
> clueless adult.

I don't see her that way at all, and certainly not as a burden to the
newsgroup. We are more than just diabetics, we're people who sometimes
need an ear.

> I have her filtered, to avoid wasting time and space on her vapid
> drivel.

Filtering somebody beats the Heck out of beating up on a long time
poster
IMO."

That post of yours could pretty much have been me speaking. Yet you said
this about me today??:

> That's part of your pattern Julie, you say outrageous things at times,
> and keep saying them until you **** people off enough that they
> respond in kind...and then Jan rushes to your defense with the "poor
> little Julie" thing,

"W. Baker" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove > wrote:
>
> : "Cheri" > wrote in message
> : ...
> : > "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
> : > ...
> : >>
> : >>
> : >> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> : >> ...
> : >>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
> : >>> ...
> : >>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
> : >>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
> : >>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
> get
> : >>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will
> it
> : >>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
> : >>>
> : >>>
> : >>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
> : >>> anything wise in this world.
> : >>> ~Helen Keller
> : >>
> : >> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good look
> at
> : >> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being is
> : >> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
> : >
> : >
> : > No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat Susan
> that
> : > way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about the
> FOAD
> : > that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good look
> at
> : > yourself before taking others to task.
>
> : AFAIK, Ozgirl has never said anything unkind to me. However there are
> quite
> : a few dogpilers in here who are doing it now. Including those who say
> they
> : don't. One makes bad comments about my canned chicken or canned broth
> and
> : then complains that *I* say something is disgusting? Complains about
> *my*
> : buying prepared foods and then posts on how to reuse rotisserie chicken?
> I
> : don't get it. I really don't.
>
> : And still the question remains. Which post was it that was supposed to
> have
> : been of interest to me? I have asked this repeatedly now and that is
> how
> : this all started. And yet nobody can take the time to answer.
>
> I just wrote about that on the other thread. I believe it was the use of
> pureed meat and vegetables like ozgirls's friend even if you are supposed
> to be past that stage. If it works to eat soupy pureed meat adn veggie
> soup, try it.
>
> Less strain on your digestive system.

But it is only to be used after an acute attack. If you continue to eat
like that, you will never get any better. Yes, some people never get
better. Some even have to be on a feeding tube. Thankfully that is not me!

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "W. Baker" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove > wrote:
>>
>> : "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> : ...
>> : > "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>> : > ...
>> : >>
>> : >>
>> : >> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> : >> ...
>> : >>> "Evelyn" > wrote in message
>> : >>> ...
>> : >>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your
>> trouble.
>> : >>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life
>> the
>> : >>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can
>> you get
>> : >>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long
>> will it
>> : >>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>> : >>>
>> : >>>
>> : >>> Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can
>> never do
>> : >>> anything wise in this world.
>> : >>> ~Helen Keller
>> : >>
>> : >> This is all getting beyond a joke, you all need to take a good
>> look at
>> : >> yourselves, this kind of behaviour towards a fellow human being
>> is
>> : >> shameful. I wouldn't treat a dog in this manner.
>> : >
>> : >
>> : > No you wouldn't treat a dog that way, but you and Julie treat
>> Susan that
>> : > way every chance you get, and I never see a word from you about
>> the FOAD
>> : > that Julie is throwing around all the time. Preacher, take a good
>> look at
>> : > yourself before taking others to task.
>>
>> : AFAIK, Ozgirl has never said anything unkind to me. However there
>> are quite
>> : a few dogpilers in here who are doing it now. Including those who
>> say they
>> : don't. One makes bad comments about my canned chicken or canned
>> broth and
>> : then complains that *I* say something is disgusting? Complains
>> about *my*
>> : buying prepared foods and then posts on how to reuse rotisserie
>> chicken? I
>> : don't get it. I really don't.
>>
>> : And still the question remains. Which post was it that was
>> supposed to have
>> : been of interest to me? I have asked this repeatedly now and that
>> is how
>> : this all started. And yet nobody can take the time to answer.
>>
>> I just wrote about that on the other thread. I believe it was the
>> use of
>> pureed meat and vegetables like ozgirls's friend even if you are
>> supposed
>> to be past that stage. If it works to eat soupy pureed meat adn
>> veggie
>> soup, try it.
>>

On another note. My daughter's MIL that I spoke about has been told they
will be taking about 1/3 of her bowel out for the cancer op on the 10th.

"BlueBrooke" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 07:22:28 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you
>>> get
>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will
>>> it
>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>
>>
>>Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>anything
>>wise in this world.
>>~Helen Keller
>
> Blast it all -- the invitations for the Pity Party already went out!
> Now what?! I guess I'll have to re-work the *menu* and come up with
> different *food* to serve at the new Anti-Pity Party! What kind of
> *diabetic* friendly *food* would you suggest? :-D
>
> For me? I think I'll throw together some Deviled Eggs! :-D
>

And yet another, what has happened to good decent people.

"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "BlueBrooke" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 07:22:28 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
...
>>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you get
>>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will it
>>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>>
>>>
>>>Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>>anything
>>>wise in this world.
>>>~Helen Keller
>>
>> Blast it all -- the invitations for the Pity Party already went out!
>> Now what?! I guess I'll have to re-work the *menu* and come up with
>> different *food* to serve at the new Anti-Pity Party! What kind of
>> *diabetic* friendly *food* would you suggest? :-D
>>
>> For me? I think I'll throw together some Deviled Eggs! :-D
>>
>
> And yet another, what has happened to good decent people.

I am very thankful that I have never encountered such people in my real
life. But I wonder... Do they walk about talking to others like this? I
hope not.

As for me... If someone did in real life talk to me or about me so that I
could hear it, I most likely would tell them to FOAD, or something similar
but a bit toned down if there were children present. I'm nobody's doormat.

"BlueBrooke" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 07:22:28 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Evelyn" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> "All unhappiness is due to the ego; with it comes all your trouble.
>>> What does it avail you to attribute to the happenings in life the
>>> cause of misery which is really within you? What happiness can you get
>>> from things extraneous to yourself ? When you get it, how long will it
>>> last ?" -- Ramana Maharshi
>>
>>
>>Self-pity is our worst enemy and if we yield to it, we can never do
>>anything
>>wise in this world.
>>~Helen Keller
>
> Blast it all -- the invitations for the Pity Party already went out!
> Now what?! I guess I'll have to re-work the *menu* and come up with
> different *food* to serve at the new Anti-Pity Party! What kind of
> *diabetic* friendly *food* would you suggest? :-D
>
> For me? I think I'll throw together some Deviled Eggs! :-D
>
> A lame attempt, I know, to bring diabetic food into the thread. :-D

Please stop trying to push your low carb food on me!!! Damnit, I don't like
anything, never have liked anything, and never will like anything! It's all
disgusting and it makes me gag. ;-)

Cheri