"Edwin Pawlowski" < & Cyndi"
: > Must be nice! No such animal here. As far as disposal -
not
: > a problem in this case because my 13 cf works just fine..
:
:
: You must be out in the booonies someplace. I've heard of
charges from $25
: to $50 to get rid of refrigerators and AC's with Freon. You
can't just
: dump them in the landfill any more.
:
: White goods of all types have no scrap value as compared to 10
or more years
: ago.
: Ed
:
: ----------

Surprisingly not...just within a very greedy section! We're
actually right in between 2 very large towns: Bloomington/Normal,
Ill and Peoria, Ill. Both towns have around 100 k people... but
you would think that since they weren't supersized like Chicago
or St. Louis... that they'd maintain some small town
friendliness and service. No such luck! That's why I refer to
this area as Armpit, Illinois.

I've never encountered such a large percentage of people as
consistantly rude, greedy, or aloof in any other section of the
lower 48, as I have right here, within a 20 mile radius. If DH
didn't have seniority going for him at work and several of his
relatives nearby... we'd be gone in a heartbeat.

Our specific neighborhood is friendly and kind... but drive 1
mile out of the town's limit... oh lawdy! Our little town has
less than 10 K of people within it's outer boundries but the
township probably has less than 3K within the actual "city
limits". We even have a couple of stop lights! But since our
proximity to larger cities is so close and our town so small...
we just don't have that many stores (ie, appliance stores) so we
have to rely on whatever Peoria or Bloomington have to offer...
which means even though distance-wise, we're only as far away as
'across town' for most larger cities... we're 'long distance'
where these two cities are concerned.

I double checked the delivery fee for Sears - $ 45.00 if we
waited for them to deliver at their convenience. There was no
mention of haul-away fees... but we're keeping our other freezer
anyway; so that wasn't an issue anyway. For curiosity sake, I
may call them tomorrow just to see what they would have charged.
Due to all of the pollution charges and freon fees (Illinois has
gotten VERY stringent in these areas)... chances are, Sears
probably wouldn't have even picked up an old freezer. <shrug> .
Gosh, this is depressing just writing this!

"Rick & Cyndi" > wrote in message
>
> Surprisingly not...just within a very greedy section! We're
> actually right in between 2 very large towns: Bloomington/Normal,
> Ill and Peoria, Ill. Both towns have around 100 k people... but
> you would think that since they weren't supersized like Chicago
> or St. Louis... that they'd maintain some small town
> friendliness and service. No such luck! That's why I refer to
> this area as Armpit, Illinois.


I've been to Chicago and found the people there to be rather nice for a
large city. I'd secribe it as New York, but with manners.


>
> Our specific neighborhood is friendly and kind... but drive 1
> mile out of the town's limit... oh lawdy! Our little town has
> less than 10 K of people within it's outer boundries but the
> township probably has less than 3K within the actual "city
> limits". We even have a couple of stop lights! But since our
> proximity to larger cities is so close and our town so small...
> we just don't have that many stores (ie, appliance stores) so we
> have to rely on whatever Peoria or Bloomington have to offer...
> which means even though distance-wise, we're only as far away as
> 'across town' for most larger cities... we're 'long distance'
> where these two cities are concerned.


We get a similar reaction fromt he cities around us. I'm in Putnam CT, in
the northeast corner of the state. Population 10k, next town south about
15k. That puts us tiny comapred to Hartford CT, Worcester MA, Providence
RI, all of which are 35 miles away. We do, however, have a few appliance
dealers. They offer very competitive prices now that most belong to buying
co-ops. Service is outstanding. When our old freezer dies, the nearby dealer
did not have the one we wanted in stock and it would be 2 days. So, he
brough another freezer, helped my wife transfer the food. Two days later
brought he one we wanted and set it up, helped again witht he transfer and
took everything away. Total cost was maybe $25 more than the big
discounters for the same new freezer. .

We had a 22 year old Maytag washer. It was not working right so I bought
new belts. That was not the problem so I went back to the dealer to look at
new machines. He had what we wanted in stock, he took back the belts at the
price I paid for them, delivered and set up the new machine and took away
the old one. All of this in two hours from the time we visited the store.
And the price was still compeitive with the stores in the cities
surrounding us. Maybe we are just lucky to have a few good dealers.
Ed

"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
m...
:
: "Rick & Cyndi" > wrote in message
: >
: > Surprisingly not...just within a very greedy section! We're
: > actually right in between 2 very large towns:
Bloomington/Normal,
: > Ill and Peoria, Ill. Both towns have around 100 k people...
but
: > you would think that since they weren't supersized like
Chicago
: > or St. Louis... that they'd maintain some small town
: > friendliness and service. No such luck! That's why I refer
to
: > this area as Armpit, Illinois.


: I've been to Chicago and found the people there to be rather
nice for a
: large city. I'd secribe it as New York, but with manners.


Hmmm. And I've found the two cities the opposite. Everytime
I've been in and through New York I've always had the best
time... everyone seemed pleasant, polite, friendly... Chicago
was "luck of the draw" depending upon who I asked/encountered for
what... FYI we're 2 1/2 hours away from Chicago and 3 hours away
from St. Louis (very friendly large city!).

: >
: > Our specific neighborhood is friendly and kind... but drive 1
: > mile out of the town's limit... oh lawdy! Our little town
has
: > less than 10 K of people within it's outer boundries but the
: > township probably has less than 3K within the actual "city
: > limits". We even have a couple of stop lights! But since
our
: > proximity to larger cities is so close and our town so
small...
: > we just don't have that many stores (ie, appliance stores) so
we
: > have to rely on whatever Peoria or Bloomington have to
offer...
: > which means even though distance-wise, we're only as far away
as
: > 'across town' for most larger cities... we're 'long distance'
: > where these two cities are concerned.


: We get a similar reaction fromt he cities around us. I'm in
Putnam CT, in
: the northeast corner of the state. Population 10k, next town
south about
: 15k. That puts us tiny comapred to Hartford CT, Worcester MA,
Providence
: RI, all of which are 35 miles away. We do, however, have a few
appliance
: dealers. They offer very competitive prices now that most
belong to buying
: co-ops. Service is outstanding. When our old freezer dies, the
nearby dealer
: did not have the one we wanted in stock and it would be 2 days.
So, he
: brough another freezer, helped my wife transfer the food. Two
days later
: brought he one we wanted and set it up, helped again witht he
transfer and
: took everything away. Total cost was maybe $25 more than the
big
: discounters for the same new freezer. .

Nice neck of the woods! It's been a while since I've been around
there. Not since the mid 90s, I reckon.


:
: We had a 22 year old Maytag washer. It was not working right
so I bought
: new belts. That was not the problem so I went back to the
dealer to look at
: new machines. He had what we wanted in stock, he took back the
belts at the
: price I paid for them, delivered and set up the new machine and
took away
: the old one. All of this in two hours from the time we visited
the store.
: And the price was still compeitive with the stores in the
cities
: surrounding us. Maybe we are just lucky to have a few good
dealers.
: Ed
:
Wow. Good dealers and 'good' people!

Bloomington is a friendlier town than Peoria because it's more
transient (my guess, anyway)... there's more money spent there,
due to the colleges and a few other nearby things. It also has a
couple of Interstates going through it which helps a lot...
Peoria, OTOH, is a wannabe Chicago but doesn't have the trade,
commerce or the necessities to do so! IIRC, back around 1800, or
so, Peoria was actually larger than Chicago and to talk with some
of the city's Powers-that-be... nah, Not going there....
nevermind. <snort> Here's a link about Peoria:
http://www.villageprofile.com/illino...a/peoria3.html Since
that site was done, they've built a super stadium (!) for their
little baseball team... they had another little ball field that
the team played at... attendence was so low that it was amazing
that the team stayed in Peoria or was disbanded; meanwhile, the
mysterious "they" decide (it actually started from a 'dream' of
one of the city's more affluent...blah, blah...) that all of a
sudden, Peoria NEEDS a new stadium, as in one like Major leaguers
play at... (why? game attendence was usually less than *50*
people! Seriously!)... In their defense, for the first couple
of games they did have maybe a couple thousand but that has since
dwindled - again - Surprise!... oh, and guess what, they planted
*Palm Trees*, from Florida... <shakes head>.... Hello,
Illinois, zone 5... snow, ice...

Sorry Ed, I said I wasn't gonna go there.

Anyway, the freezer is home and cold and I'll be moving things
into it today! Yay!!

"Rick & Cyndi" > wrote in message

> oh, and guess what, they planted
> *Palm Trees*, from Florida... <shakes head>.... Hello,
> Illinois, zone 5... snow, ice...

Wow, I can't top that one. The wonders of the town fathers and tax
dollars.
Ed

"Rick & Cyndi" > wrote in message news:<H0ufb.672427> :
> : ----------
>
> >
> I double checked the delivery fee for Sears - $ 45.00 if we
> waited for them to deliver at their convenience. There was no
> mention of haul-away fees... but we're keeping our other freezer
> anyway; so that wasn't an issue anyway. For curiosity sake, I
> may call them tomorrow just to see what they would have charged.
> Due to all of the pollution charges and freon fees (Illinois has
> gotten VERY stringent in these areas)... chances are, Sears
> probably wouldn't have even picked up an old freezer. <shrug> .
> Gosh, this is depressing just writing this!


Our Sears store is only about a mile away. They also charge for
delivery, but I'm not sure how much. We have no motivation to buy
from them, when a mile in the other direction, the appliance/furniture
store will deliver for free and take the old one away.

When we bought a new microwave oven in 1999, we carried the new one
home and were allowed to bring the old one to the store for disposal.
What could be easier. Nearly everyone we know buys new appliances at
the appliance/furniture store.

In the 10 years we have lived here, we have bought a dryer, a
dishwasher, a refrigerator, a stove, 2 tv-s, a vcr and a microwave
oven.

Dawn