My wife and I are planning a kitchen remodeling, so I am reading this
newsgroup and doing research.

We plan to get the GE Profile electric double ovens (Model JT955) in
stainless steel and also a microwave (undecided at the moment).

My wife is suggesting we stack the double ovens and microwave with the
microwave on top. From the dimensions (almost 53 inches for the ovens),
it seems like it might work.

Anyone stacked the ovens with a microwave? Does it work for you?

Anyone think stacking makes sense?

While I think the GE Profile double ovens is the way we will go, I
certainly would be interested in the experience anyone has had with them.

Also, any suggestions for a microwave?

Thanks.

Bill

Bill Hogsett wrote:
> While I think the GE Profile double ovens is the way we will go, I
> certainly would be interested in the experience anyone has had with them.
>
> Also, any suggestions for a microwave?
>

I've never had that layout but I don't see why it wouldn't
work. As for the microwave, we have a GE Profile Performance
micro/convection unit that I love. We've had it for five or
six years. Even when used as a regular oven it doesn't
throw heat into the kitchen.

If you stay with a GE Profile or Sharp Carousel you'll have
no problems. (or shouldn't anyhow. ;-) ) Go with the one
that has the features that you'll use.


--
Steve

If the double oven is 53" high, and you put the MW on top, the bottm
of the MW will be be 5 feet off the floor. That seems pretty high--
about neck level for me at 6'+. Hot stuff, that high, hard to
control, scary.........

Bill Hogsett wrote:
> My wife and I are planning a kitchen remodeling, so I am reading this
> newsgroup and doing research.
>
> We plan to get the GE Profile electric double ovens (Model JT955) in
> stainless steel and also a microwave (undecided at the moment).
>
> My wife is suggesting we stack the double ovens and microwave with the
> microwave on top. From the dimensions (almost 53 inches for the ovens),
> it seems like it might work.
>
> Anyone stacked the ovens with a microwave? Does it work for you?
>
> Anyone think stacking makes sense?
>
> While I think the GE Profile double ovens is the way we will go, I
> certainly would be interested in the experience anyone has had with them.
>
> Also, any suggestions for a microwave?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bill

That scares the bejeepers out of me too!

My nephew was seriously burned removing something too hot from a microwave
that was mounted over a stove...


Rina


"Dean" > wrote in message
...
> If the double oven is 53" high, and you put the MW on top, the bottm of
> the MW will be be 5 feet off the floor. That seems pretty high--
> about neck level for me at 6'+. Hot stuff, that high, hard to control,
> scary.........

Rina wrote:
> That scares the bejeepers out of me too!
>
> My nephew was seriously burned removing something too hot from a microwave
> that was mounted over a stove...
>
>
> Rina
>
>
> "Dean" > wrote in message
> ...
>> If the double oven is 53" high, and you put the MW on top, the bottm of
>> the MW will be be 5 feet off the floor. That seems pretty high--
>> about neck level for me at 6'+. Hot stuff, that high, hard to control,
>> scary.........
>
>

I just measured mine setup after reading the prior two
posts. I don't understand why the MW would be 5 feet off of
the floor. That would be 60". I'd guess realistically the
bottom of the microwave would end up at about 55" which is
4'6" from the floor. That's 2" higher than mine. Anyone who
can't get something out of it without burning themselves has
no business in the kitchen in the first place.

I'm 6'0" and have to bend to look into the glass. Nancy's
probably around 5'6 and she has absolutely no problem
getting anything in or out of our unit.

You'll be fine Bill, unless you're EXTREMELY small.

--
Steve

OK I stand corrected, according to the Installation Quick Specs from
the GE website, the oven unit is just under 53" over all outside high
and it requires a minimum 12" above the floor. Allow another 1" above
it for a shelf to install the MW on, and assume the floor of the MW is
only 1" thick -->53+12+1+1=67" above the floor. On me that's my nose.

Even if you install lower than the instruction sheet directs, standard
cabinets will have the lowest shelf about 6" off the floor, so MW oven
floor is at 61". The only way it's any lower is if the oven sits on
the kitchen floor.

Normal for a over-the-range MW would be about 52-54" with 18" to the
stove top. I'd avoid anything higher.

But I don't like burning myself.

Sorry for the confusion.

Steve Calvin wrote:
> Rina wrote:
>> That scares the bejeepers out of me too!
>>
>> My nephew was seriously burned removing something too hot from a
>> microwave that was mounted over a stove...
>>
>>
>> Rina
>>
>>
>> "Dean" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> If the double oven is 53" high, and you put the MW on top, the bottm
>>> of the MW will be be 5 feet off the floor. That seems pretty high--
>>> about neck level for me at 6'+. Hot stuff, that high, hard to
>>> control, scary.........
>>
>>
>
> I just measured mine setup after reading the prior two posts. I don't
> understand why the MW would be 5 feet off of the floor. That would be
> 60". I'd guess realistically the bottom of the microwave would end up at
> about 55" which is 4'6" from the floor. That's 2" higher than mine.
> Anyone who can't get something out of it without burning themselves has
> no business in the kitchen in the first place.
>
> I'm 6'0" and have to bend to look into the glass. Nancy's probably
> around 5'6 and she has absolutely no problem getting anything in or out
> of our unit.
>
> You'll be fine Bill, unless you're EXTREMELY small.
>

Dean wrote:
> OK I stand corrected, according to the Installation Quick Specs from
> the GE website, the oven unit is just under 53" over all outside high
> and it requires a minimum 12" above the floor. Allow another 1" above
> it for a shelf to install the MW on, and assume the floor of the MW is
> only 1" thick -->53+12+1+1=67" above the floor. On me that's my nose.
>
> Even if you install lower than the instruction sheet directs, standard
> cabinets will have the lowest shelf about 6" off the floor, so MW oven
> floor is at 61". The only way it's any lower is if the oven sits on
> the kitchen floor.
>
> Normal for a over-the-range MW would be about 52-54" with 18" to the
> stove top. I'd avoid anything higher.
>
> But I don't like burning myself.
>
> Sorry for the confusion.
>

ok, with the new numbers, I wouldn't do 67". The original
numbers would not have been a problem. How 'bout putting the
microwave over the cooktop?

--
Steve

Bill Hogsett said...

> Anyone think stacking makes sense?
>
> While I think the GE Profile double ovens is the way we will go, I
> certainly would be interested in the experience anyone has had with them.
>
> Also, any suggestions for a microwave?


I'm looking for ideas, too.

I've got an old 1967 GE Hotpoint Hallmark electric oven/cooktop system:

http://www.tinyurl.com/y2688r

It's old and tired and it's about time I plant both feet into the 21st
century!

The two features I will try to reproduce will be side by side (low-profile)
ovens above a cooktop with the doors that lift up/out of the way so they
don't present a red-hot obstacle to reach over like regular oven doors do.
It was a truly effective design. It's been very kind to my back, not having
to bend over to tend the ovens.

Haven't seen a similar design in a modern ovens though. Side hinged-oven
doors will be acceptable.

Good luck,

Andy

"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
> I'm looking for ideas, too.
>
> I've got an old 1967 GE Hotpoint Hallmark electric oven/cooktop system:
>
> http://www.tinyurl.com/y2688r
>
> It's old and tired and it's about time I plant both feet into the 21st
> century!
>
> The two features I will try to reproduce will be side by side
> (low-profile)
> ovens above a cooktop with the doors that lift up/out of the way so they
> don't present a red-hot obstacle to reach over like regular oven doors do.
> It was a truly effective design. It's been very kind to my back, not
> having
> to bend over to tend the ovens.
>
> Haven't seen a similar design in a modern ovens though. Side hinged-oven
> doors will be acceptable.

I think you are going to be looking for a long, long time! ;-)

I'm surprised that model you show was still made as late as 1967. That side
by side oven configuration was somewhat popular (but quite expensive)
starting sometime in the late 1950s, but was already out of favor by the mid
1960s. By then, the stoves with small upper (above the surface burners) oven
and big lower oven, in a 30 inch width had taken over. Even this two oven
(upper and lower) 30 inch model pretty much disappeared in the early 1980s.

My parents used to have one of those side by side top oven configurations, a
Tappan Fabulous 400:

http://www.plan59.com/decor/decor056.htm

It had oven doors that swung sideways, rather than lifted up.

I think the microwave essentially killed the market for the double oven
stove. A kitchen's second oven was now going to be a microwave. I even saw a
30 inch, upper and lower oven stove in a friend's house made in the 1970s
with an electric lower oven and surface elements, and a microwave upper
oven, all part of the same stove. I don't recall the manufacturer. That
configuration wasn't around for long.

Any of those double oven stoves (side by side or upper and lower) were high
end stoves in their time. The high end market moved on to "professional
style" models since then. The only market for two ovens are the standalone
ones, some wide "professional style" stoves with two side by side lower
ovens, and the Maytag Gemini with two lower stacked ovens.

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wff_ng_7 said...

> I think you are going to be looking for a long, long time! ;-)


Yep. I'll be doing plenty of re-thinking!



> I'm surprised that model you show was still made as late as 1967. That
> side by side oven configuration was somewhat popular (but quite
> expensive) starting sometime in the late 1950s, but was already out of
> favor by the mid 1960s. By then, the stoves with small upper (above the
> surface burners) oven and big lower oven, in a 30 inch width had taken
> over. Even this two oven (upper and lower) 30 inch model pretty much
> disappeared in the early 1980s.
>
> My parents used to have one of those side by side top oven
> configurations, a Tappan Fabulous 400:
>
> http://www.plan59.com/decor/decor056.htm
>
> It had oven doors that swung sideways, rather than lifted up.


That's a funny picture. For a split second I thought there was a tiny
"fairy" standing on the edge of the oven!!!


The original owners did a 1969 kitchen remodel and they put in that stove.
But the 1950s stuff they had landed in the basement.

Pink art deco influenced floor to ceiling dual oven, matching dishwasher
and fridge (still on the basement wall) and STILL WORKING (if I turn it
on), a "Generous Electric" three door side-by-side pink wall mounted
refrigerator! Two doors open for the fridge and the right end door opens to
the freezer. Maybe 12 and 4 square feet respectively.

During football season it serves "overflow" beer and frozen mug duties!

I tossed the dishwasher and oven right off after moving in. They were bums
and left that crap.

All the best,

Andy

"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>> My parents used to have one of those side by side top oven
>> configurations, a Tappan Fabulous 400:
>>
>> http://www.plan59.com/decor/decor056.htm
>>
>> It had oven doors that swung sideways, rather than lifted up.
>
>
> That's a funny picture. For a split second I thought there was a tiny
> "fairy" standing on the edge of the oven!!!

I don't think Tappan would have been using men in drag at that early date!
;-)

An awful lot of 1950s to mid 1960s ads used women dressed to the nines in
their cocktail dresses. Things changed after that. Ever see the GE "Carousel
of Progress", particularly as the last "scene" got updated to reflect
current trends? As originally done for the 1964 New York World's Fair, it
reflected a time similar to those in the above ad. I saw it again when it
first opened at Disneyworld in Florida. It had been updated to reflect
things such as "women's lib" and environmentalism.

> The original owners did a 1969 kitchen remodel and they put in that stove.
> But the 1950s stuff they had landed in the basement.
>
> Pink art deco influenced floor to ceiling dual oven, matching dishwasher
> and fridge (still on the basement wall) and STILL WORKING (if I turn it
> on), a "Generous Electric" three door side-by-side pink wall mounted
> refrigerator! Two doors open for the fridge and the right end door opens
> to
> the freezer. Maybe 12 and 4 square feet respectively.

It's amazing all the color schemes they've used in kitchens over the years.
I'm not sure exactly when pink was popular. I think it was around for a very
long time, but never one of the really dominant colors. Ones that I do
remember being very popular in the 1960s and into the 1970s were turquoise,
coppertone, avocado green, and harvest gold.

My refrigerator is 1973 General Electric in almond, which was just coming
into favor as a color at that time. Nothing unusual, just a builders model
top freezer frost free unit. My ISE garbage disposal and Magic Chef stove
are also of that same vintage. The GE dishwasher from that same remodel
lasted until last spring. It's unbelievable how long some things can last.

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wff_ng_7 said...

> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>>> My parents used to have one of those side by side top oven
>>> configurations, a Tappan Fabulous 400:
>>>
>>> http://www.plan59.com/decor/decor056.htm
>>>
>>> It had oven doors that swung sideways, rather than lifted up.
>>
>>
>> That's a funny picture. For a split second I thought there was a tiny
>> "fairy" standing on the edge of the oven!!!
>
> I don't think Tappan would have been using men in drag at that early
> date! ;-)
>
> An awful lot of 1950s to mid 1960s ads used women dressed to the nines
> in their cocktail dresses. Things changed after that. Ever see the GE
> "Carousel of Progress", particularly as the last "scene" got updated to
> reflect current trends? As originally done for the 1964 New York World's
> Fair, it reflected a time similar to those in the above ad. I saw it
> again when it first opened at Disneyworld in Florida. It had been
> updated to reflect things such as "women's lib" and environmentalism.
>
>> The original owners did a 1969 kitchen remodel and they put in that
>> stove. But the 1950s stuff they had landed in the basement.
>>
>> Pink art deco influenced floor to ceiling dual oven, matching
>> dishwasher and fridge (still on the basement wall) and STILL WORKING
>> (if I turn it on), a "Generous Electric" three door side-by-side pink
>> wall mounted refrigerator! Two doors open for the fridge and the right
>> end door opens to
>> the freezer. Maybe 12 and 4 square feet respectively.
>
> It's amazing all the color schemes they've used in kitchens over the
> years. I'm not sure exactly when pink was popular. I think it was around
> for a very long time, but never one of the really dominant colors. Ones
> that I do remember being very popular in the 1960s and into the 1970s
> were turquoise, coppertone, avocado green, and harvest gold.
>
> My refrigerator is 1973 General Electric in almond, which was just
> coming into favor as a color at that time. Nothing unusual, just a
> builders model top freezer frost free unit. My ISE garbage disposal and
> Magic Chef stove are also of that same vintage. The GE dishwasher from
> that same remodel lasted until last spring. It's unbelievable how long
> some things can last.


wff_ng_7,

Where ARE my manners?!!

Here's the timecapsule of a refrigerator...

http://www.tinypic.com/2q2hc7t.jpg


Thanks for all the fun info!

Andy

Thanks for all the replies.

It sure seems that stacking the microwave on top of the double ovens is not
practical since the microwave bottom would be at least 68 inches high which
is about the top of my wife's and my heads.

Bill