Those of you who use Google Groups, instead of a real newsreader, need to
start quoting a bit of the text you are replying to. Since most newsreaders
are configured to delete previously read messages in a thread, it appears
that you are replying to something out of thin air. Please take the time to
do it right.

--
Dave
www.davebbq.com

OK,Dave!



I just couldn't resist. =8^0

Dave Bugg wrote:

> Those of you who use Google Groups, instead of a real newsreader,
> need to start quoting a bit of the text you are replying to. Since
> most newsreaders are configured to delete previously read messages in
> a thread, it appears that you are replying to something out of thin
> air. Please take the time to do it right.

Often this is a problem due to the user not being aware of the way to
do so in Google. There are some instruction in my .sig below. You can
also reference this web site: http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google for more
detailed instructions and useful links.



Brian
--
Please quote enough of the previous message for context. To do so from
Google, click "show options" and use the Reply shown in the expanded
header.

Steve Wertz wrote:

> Why not just set up your newsreader to save all message sin the
> thread. That way, when you look at the thread, you know the exact
> sequence of who replied to what in each subthread?

Because I find that to be too unwieldy, especially as a thread gets longer.
I don't find it a losing battle; I just killfile those Googleheads who
refuse to adapt to existing netiquette protocol. I guess I have issues with
acquiescing to the lowest common denominator :-)
--
Dave
www.davebbq.com

Dave Bugg wrote:
> Those of you who use Google Groups, instead of a real newsreader, need to
> start quoting a bit of the text you are replying to. Since most newsreaders
> are configured to delete previously read messages in a thread, it appears
> that you are replying to something out of thin air. Please take the time to
> do it right.
>
> --
> Dave
> www.davebbq.com


And some of us who have been using google groups because our ISP does
not want to pay extra to allow us to receive newsgroups have been doing
it all along. Next time, try to target your audience a little bit
better...

Steve Wertz wrote:
> Anyway, who posts from Google except for trolls and idiots
> anymore?

Me.

Cam

wrote:
> Dave Bugg wrote:
> > Those of you who use Google Groups, instead of a real newsreader, need to
> > start quoting a bit of the text you are replying to. Since most newsreaders
> > are configured to delete previously read messages in a thread, it appears
> > that you are replying to something out of thin air. Please take the time to
> > do it right.
> >
> > --
> > Dave
> > www.davebbq.com
>
>
> And some of us who have been using google groups because our ISP does
> not want to pay extra to allow us to receive newsgroups have been doing
> it all along. Next time, try to target your audience a little bit
> better...

Ha it works, I have been wondering how to do this, thanks a lot!

Steve Wertz wrote:
> On 28 Feb 2006 08:13:15 -0800, "Cam" > wrote:
>
> >Steve Wertz wrote:
> >> Anyway, who posts from Google except for trolls and idiots
> >> anymore?
> >
> >Me.
>
> Great - that was your second post in the last 6 months. I think
> the benefit of not seeing any Google posts far outweighs the
> benefits of seeing your _one_ post every 6 months.
>
> -sw

Good for you Steve but I count 22 posts. BTW, how is it that you can
see my posts when you advocate filtering Google posters? Whatever.

Cam

Steve Wertz wrote:

> On 28 Feb 2006 20:45:44 GMT, "Default User"
> > wrote:

> > No thanks. I have my newsreader to display ONLY unread messages.
> > That's the sensible way to do it. It's not as big a deal in this
> > newsgroup, by there are some where it's very difficult to read with
> > all message displayed.
>
> Like I said, set up one view the way you have it (just shows
> unread messages), and switch to the other view (show complete
> thread) as the need arises. You're right there at the same post
> and can view the posting history, if you so choose.


Why should I switch my view back and forth to accomodate people who
can't follow simple instructions? I certainly haven't hesitated to
provide the info as needed? Googlers need to learn to do things
properly, rather than everyone else jumping through hoops.

I don't know why we are even having this conversation, it's ridiculous.
And I'm done with it.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

Dave Bugg Wrote:
<Those of you who use Google Groups, instead of a real newsreader, need
to
start quoting a bit of the text you are replying to. Since most
newsreaders
are configured to delete previously read messages in a thread, it
appears
that you are replying to something out of thin air. Please take the
time to
do it right. >

Honestly, Dave, sometimes the text I'm responding to comes through and
sometimes it doesn't. I never know what I'm going to get.

wrote:

> And some of us who have been using google groups because our ISP does
> not want to pay extra to allow us to receive newsgroups have been
> doing it all along. Next time, try to target your audience a little
> bit better...

Since you have "been doing it all along", then my op obviously wasn't
targeted toward you, right? Which means that you were excluded from my
request, right? Perhaps you may wish to target you replies appropriately?

--
Dave
www.davebbq.com

Dave Bugg wrote:
> wrote:
>
> > And some of us who have been using google groups because our ISP does
> > not want to pay extra to allow us to receive newsgroups have been
> > doing it all along. Next time, try to target your audience a little
> > bit better...
>
> Since you have "been doing it all along", then my op obviously wasn't
> targeted toward you, right? Which means that you were excluded from my
> request, right? Perhaps you may wish to target you replies appropriately?
>
> --
> Dave
> www.davebbq.com


First of all Dave, let me say I have a lot of respect for you, unlike
some other posters who have replied. That said...

Yes, your first post was targeted at me as a user of Google Groups.
Nowhere in your OP did you say "Google group users who don't quote need
to start because..." Instead, you came off, IMHO, in a fiery manner by
saying "Those of you who use Google Groups, instead of a real
newsreader,..." To which I responded in a fiery manner.

Either way, both our points were made. Let's call it done.

Jon

wrote:

> Either way, both our points were made. Let's call it done.
>
> Jon

Sure..... plonk

--
Dave
www.davebbq.com

LC Scotty wrote:

> Honestly, Dave, sometimes the text I'm responding to comes through and
> sometimes it doesn't. I never know what I'm going to get.

Hmmm. Being web-based, there is always the possibility of
browser-dependent behavior. My own bit of anecdotal evidence is that I
used nothing but Google for four months at the start of 2005, and
occasionally even after signing up with news.individual.net (a
reasonably-priced usenet provider) and never saw such behavior. After
all, the quoted text is in your message, and can be edited. Where could
it go exactly?



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

<After
all, the quoted text is in your message, and can be edited. Where could

it go exactly? >

I deliberately cut and pasted it this time. That seems to give 100%
return, but now I'm waiting to see if the text shows up twice sometime.