I've been buying the same 1cuft bags of hickory and pecan from the store
for years. I wrap them in HD foil, put a tiny little 1cm slit in the
middle and all is usuallay OK. Sometimes I had a problem with them
catching on fire, but I assume that was too much airflow though the unit
(usually when I popped the lid).

But my problem lately is too much smoke. The smoke is just POURING...
BILLOWING out of that little hole. Way too much smoke. And then it starts
coming out of the folds in the foil, too, which were crimped and smashed
pretty well.

It is a new smoker - about 6-7 cooks on it. But it's the same model I
always use. And the bag of wood chunks were bought at the same time. I
figure the wood is just too dry, right? Anyway to tame it other than
trying to soak some of the smoker pieces? Large chunks of wood really don't
"absorb"" water, do they?

I finally found some of that those 40lb bags of Lazarri lump for $12. It
was a no-brainer to decide to but some. Oops, I forgot I wasn't supposed
to buy anything taxable at Restaurant Depot... but they ended up charging
me tax anyway. That's fine with me! I highly recommended restaurant depot
or any other restaurant wholesale outfit for anyone on a budget. Most of
the stuff is sold in small enough quantities and the savings are
incredible.

-sw

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> I've been buying the same 1cuft bags of hickory and pecan from the store
> for years. I wrap them in HD foil, put a tiny little 1cm slit in the
> middle and all is usuallay OK. Sometimes I had a problem with them
> catching on fire, but I assume that was too much airflow though the unit
> (usually when I popped the lid).
>
> But my problem lately is too much smoke. The smoke is just POURING...
> BILLOWING out of that little hole. Way too much smoke. And then it
> starts
> coming out of the folds in the foil, too, which were crimped and smashed
> pretty well.
>
> It is a new smoker - about 6-7 cooks on it. But it's the same model I
> always use. And the bag of wood chunks were bought at the same time. I
> figure the wood is just too dry, right? Anyway to tame it other than
> trying to soak some of the smoker pieces? Large chunks of wood really
> don't
> "absorb"" water, do they?
>
> I finally found some of that those 40lb bags of Lazarri lump for $12. It
> was a no-brainer to decide to but some. Oops, I forgot I wasn't supposed
> to buy anything taxable at Restaurant Depot... but they ended up charging
> me tax anyway. That's fine with me! I highly recommended restaurant
> depot
> or any other restaurant wholesale outfit for anyone on a budget. Most of
> the stuff is sold in small enough quantities and the savings are
> incredible.
>
> -sw
>
>
? Does the new El Cheapo Brinkmann have more air leak outside to in than
your old one? Measure your temp. at the lower grate.
Lazarri can burn pretty hot, and can vary from bag to bag, and as you
well know, from the size of the charcoal chunk.

Kent

On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:54:32 -0500 in alt.food.barbecue, Sqwertz
> wrote,
>But my problem lately is too much smoke. The smoke is just POURING...
>BILLOWING out of that little hole. Way too much smoke.

Put less wood in.

On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:47:43 -0700, Kent wrote:

> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I've been buying the same 1cuft bags of hickory and pecan from the store
>> for years. I wrap them in HD foil, put a tiny little 1cm slit in the
>> middle and all is usuallay OK. Sometimes I had a problem with them
>> catching on fire, but I assume that was too much airflow though the unit
>> (usually when I popped the lid).
>>
>> But my problem lately is too much smoke. The smoke is just POURING...
>> BILLOWING out of that little hole. Way too much smoke. And then it
>> starts
>> coming out of the folds in the foil, too, which were crimped and smashed
>> pretty well.
>>
>> It is a new smoker - about 6-7 cooks on it. But it's the same model I
>> always use. And the bag of wood chunks were bought at the same time. I
>> figure the wood is just too dry, right? Anyway to tame it other than
>> trying to soak some of the smoker pieces? Large chunks of wood really
>> don't
>> "absorb"" water, do they?
>>
>> I finally found some of that those 40lb bags of Lazarri lump for $12. It
>> was a no-brainer to decide to but some. Oops, I forgot I wasn't supposed
>> to buy anything taxable at Restaurant Depot... but they ended up charging
>> me tax anyway. That's fine with me! I highly recommended restaurant
>> depot
>> or any other restaurant wholesale outfit for anyone on a budget. Most of
>> the stuff is sold in small enough quantities and the savings are
>> incredible.
>
> ? Does the new El Cheapo Brinkmann have more air leak outside to in than
> your old one? Measure your temp. at the lower grate.

I'm not sure what you're asking, but the answer is No.

> Lazarri can burn pretty hot, and can vary from bag to bag, and as you
> well know, from the size of the charcoal chunk.

I haven't even opened the Lazzari yet.

-sw

On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:58:46 -0700, David Harmon wrote:

> On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:54:32 -0500 in alt.food.barbecue, Sqwertz
> > wrote,
>>But my problem lately is too much smoke. The smoke is just POURING...
>>BILLOWING out of that little hole. Way too much smoke.
>
> Put less wood in.

Uh, yeah. It doesn't matter how much I put it, it's put out too much at a
time. On the last cook I used 2/3" x 2/3rd" x 3" chunks wrapped in foil
and even one of those was too much at one time. It simply smokes too
quickly.

-sw

On Aug 22, 11:29*am, Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:58:46 -0700, David Harmon wrote:
> > On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:54:32 -0500 in alt.food.barbecue, Sqwertz
> > > wrote,
> >>But my problem lately is too much smoke. *The smoke is just POURING....
> >>BILLOWING out of that little hole. *Way too much smoke.
>
> > Put less wood in.
>
> Uh, yeah. *It doesn't matter how much I put it, it's put out too much at a
> time. *On the last cook I used 2/3" x 2/3rd" x 3" chunks wrapped in foil
> and even one of those was too much at one time. *It simply smokes too
> quickly.
>
> -sw

This doesn't help you with the immediate problem, but you probably
won't want to add wood chunks when you use the Lazzari (hardwood or
mesquite?) as the wood content is fairly high and you'll get plenty of
smoke from the lump.

"tutall" > wrote in message
...
On Aug 22, 11:29 am, Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:58:46 -0700, David Harmon wrote:
> > On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:54:32 -0500 in alt.food.barbecue, Sqwertz
> > > wrote,
> >>But my problem lately is too much smoke. The smoke is just POURING...
> >>BILLOWING out of that little hole. Way too much smoke.
>
> > Put less wood in.
>
> Uh, yeah. It doesn't matter how much I put it, it's put out too much at a
> time. On the last cook I used 2/3" x 2/3rd" x 3" chunks wrapped in foil
> and even one of those was too much at one time. It simply smokes too
> quickly.
>
> -sw

>This doesn't help you with the immediate problem, but you probably
>won't want to add wood chunks when you use the Lazzari (hardwood or
>mesquite?) as the wood content is fairly high and you'll get plenty of
>smoke from the lump.

You don't get enough smoke from the "lump"

On 22-Aug-2010, Sqwertz > wrote:

.. . .

>
> I finally found some of that those 40lb bags of Lazarri lump for $12. It
> was a no-brainer to decide to but some. Oops, I forgot I wasn't supposed
> to buy anything taxable at Restaurant Depot... but they ended up charging
> me tax anyway. That's fine with me! I highly recommended restaurant
> depot
> or any other restaurant wholesale outfit for anyone on a budget. Most of
> the stuff is sold in small enough quantities and the savings are
> incredible.
>
> -sw

Now that's a buy I would jump on. I pay about that amount for Royal Oak
briquettes at the Air Force Commissary. We used to get lump for that
price until the do gooders voted the Ocala, FL., Royal Oak Kiln out of
business. *******s bought up all the undeveloped land around the kiln
cause it was dirt cheap. Then they built houses on it and started bitching
abut the fallout from the kiln. It's the American way. Kill the steel mills,
the coal mines, the great lakes shipping and then bitch about all the
jobs going overseas. Oh, I almost forgot, raise the taxes on all the rich
people so they can't afford to hire any new workers and are forced to
pass the burden on to comsumers in the form of higher prices.

Pardon my soapbox.

--
Brick (Kinky is using a feather.
Perverted is using the whole chicken.)

On Aug 22, 3:10*pm, wrote:
> Oh, I almost forgot, raise the taxes on all the rich
> people so they can't afford to hire any new workers and are forced to
> pass the burden on to comsumers in the form of higher prices.
>
> Pardon my soapbox.
>

You're proof about the saying on repeating a lie till people beleive
it. Even conservatives knowledgable about economics have been putting
down this meme specfically and Reaganomics and trickle down theory in
general. You are supporting policies that hurt you and your kin Brick.
You've been lied to so many times that you can't believe that all
these people (paid to say what's put in front of them) could be
wrong.


Just to clarify . . . .

Just because Senate Republicans have now unanimously filibustered
a TAX CUTTING JOBS BILL four times in the last month - doesn't
mean they are playing politics with peoples lives -- to simply
make things worse - to better position themselves for the November
elections.

Nope. That would be an inaccurate depiction.

The Republican have been very clear that they will lift their
filibuster if Harry Reid will agree to a number of amendments.
One is to extend the Bush tax cuts for the well-to-do. Another
is to permanently eliminate the estate tax for the benefit of
extremely well-to- do.

So to be fair it would be more accurate to say:
They are filibustering to serve the interests of people receiving
inheritances of more than $3,000,000 -- people making more than
$300,000 a year AND to play politics with peoples lives - - to
make things worse - to better position themselves for the
November elections.

Hope that's clear.

Come November be sure to pull that Republican lever. You'll get
exactly what you deserve.




Aug. 19, 2010, 12:35 p.m. EDT

Obama Urges Passage of Small Business Jobs Bill
WASHINGTON (Marke****ch) - President Barack Obama on Thursday urged
passage of a
package of provisions including legislation that would set up a $30
billion fund that would help
community banks offer loans to small businesses. "The jobs bill would
eliminate taxes on
key investments in small businesses and allow small business owners to
write off more expenses and
it would make it easier for community banks to do more lending to
small businesses," Obama
said. "This small business jobs bill is based on ideas made by both
Democrats and
Republicans." The bill is stalled in the Senate after Democrats in
July failed to obtain a filibuster-
proof 60 votes needed to end debate on the bill. Legislators are
tentatively scheduled to consider
the bill on Sept. 14.


Obama Urges Republicans To Drop Small Business Bill Filibuster

Staff USA Today Tuesday, August 17, 2010 at 5:51PM

Describing them as a “partisan minority,” President Barack Obama urged
Senate Republicans
Tuesday to lift the fillibuster on legislation aimed at helping small
businesses receive loans.
“There will be plenty of time between now and November to play
politics, but the small business
owners … around the country don’t have time for political games,”
Obama said during brief
remarks at a Seattle Bakery. “I ask Senate Republicans to drop their
efforts to block it.”
The Small Business Jobs and Credit Act will provide a $30 billion fund
for community banks to
spur lending at the local level.

Republicans Filibuster Tax-Cutting Jobs Bill
Brian Beutler | July 30, 2010, 9:43AM

All 41 Senate Republicans yesterday filibustered a jobs package
comprised largely of tax
cuts. You read that right. Republicans filibustered tax cuts.

By the GOP's own admission, the underlying legislation has broad
bipartisan support. It
would create a $30 billion Treasury-backed fund to help community
banks issue loans to
small businesses and provide entrepreneurs with $12 billion in tax
cuts -- a Republican
kind of bill if ever there was one.

But Republicans had been threatening for weeks to stop it, unless they
were offered a
chance to offer amendments on issues like border security, extending
all of the Bush
tax cuts , and the estate tax -- all of which Senate Majority Leader
Harry Reid held to be non-
germane to the issue of job creation.

Many of the Republicans have also objected to a provision added to the
bill that would
have provided disaster and agriculture relief funding.

On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:50:32 -0700 (PDT), tutall wrote:

> This doesn't help you with the immediate problem, but you probably
> won't want to add wood chunks when you use the Lazzari (hardwood or
> mesquite?) as the wood content is fairly high and you'll get plenty of
> smoke from the lump.

The Lazzari is mesquite. I'll open it and take a look at it tomorrow when
I get some meat. Mmmm. Meeeaaaat.

-sw

On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:10:32 GMT, wrote:

> On 22-Aug-2010, Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>> I finally found some of that those 40lb bags of Lazarri lump for $12.
>
> Now that's a buy I would jump on.

I should have bought 2 of them since I had a ride and won't get up there
very often. It was 12.23 + $1 tax exactly. So that comes out to $.33/lb
exactly. I don't think I've ever paid less than $.48/lb except when that
Ranchers Reserve was on sale for $5/bag.

If anybody in Austin wants some (or anything else from Restaurant depot),
I'm easy :-)

-sw

On Aug 22, 4:12*pm, tutall > wrote:
> On Aug 22, 3:10*pm, wrote:
>
> > Oh, I almost forgot, raise the taxes on all the rich
> > people so they can't afford to hire any new workers and are forced to
> > pass the burden on to comsumers in the form of higher prices.
>
> > Pardon my soapbox.
>
> You're proof about the saying on repeating a lie till people beleive
> it. Even conservatives knowledgable about economics have been putting
> down this meme specfically and Reaganomics and trickle down theory in
> general. You are supporting policies that hurt you and your kin Brick.

David Stockman (and Alan Greenspan have both come out against
rescinding the tax cuts for the rich.

Greenspan is quoted as saying it would be "disastrous". Yet despite
experts opinions to the contrary, our paid for "representatives" keep
on blowing the same old dog whistle.

ARROYO GRANDE, Calif. (Marke****ch) -- "How my G.O.P. destroyed the
U.S. economy." Yes, that is exactly what David Stockman, President
Ronald Reagan's director of the Office of Management and Budget, wrote
in a recent New York Times op-ed piece, "Four Deformations of the
Apocalypse."

Get it? Not "destroying." The GOP has already "destroyed" the U.S.
economy, setting up an "American Apocalypse."

Stockman rushes into the ring swinging like a boxer: "If there were
such a thing as Chapter 11 for politicians, the Republican push to
extend the unaffordable Bush tax cuts would amount to a bankruptcy
filing. The nation's public debt ... will soon reach $18 trillion." It
screams "out for austerity and sacrifice." But instead, the GOP
insists "that the nation's wealthiest taxpayers be spared even a three-
percentage-point rate increase."

It goes on, but you can google it yourself if your interested.

On Aug 22, 4:42*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:10:32 GMT, wrote:
> > On 22-Aug-2010, Sqwertz > wrote:
>
> >> I finally found some of that those 40lb bags of Lazarri lump for $12.
>
> > Now that's a buy I would jump on.
>
> I should have bought 2 of them since I had a ride and won't get up there
> very often. *It was 12.23 + $1 tax exactly. *So that comes out to $.33/lb
> exactly. *I don't think I've ever paid less than $.48/lb except when that
> Ranchers Reserve was on sale for $5/bag.
>
> If anybody in Austin wants some (or anything else from Restaurant depot),
> I'm easy :-)
>
> -sw

That's cheaper than I get it in Brisbane Worldwide HQ of Lazzari Fuel
(snicker, I need to take some pictures of that decrepit warehouse
before it falls down or is torn down as a danger) , even by the pallet
I think. Am assuming that the mesquite price is the same as the
hardwood. The hardwood lump is $14 and change. Am going to restock
this week.

"tutall" > wrote in message
...
On Aug 22, 4:12 pm, tutall > wrote:
> On Aug 22, 3:10 pm, wrote:
>
> > Oh, I almost forgot, raise the taxes on all the rich
> > people so they can't afford to hire any new workers and are forced to
> > pass the burden on to comsumers in the form of higher prices.
>
> > Pardon my soapbox.
>
> You're proof about the saying on repeating a lie till people beleive
> it. Even conservatives knowledgable about economics have been putting
> down this meme specfically and Reaganomics and trickle down theory in
> general. You are supporting policies that hurt you and your kin Brick.

David Stockman (and Alan Greenspan have both come out against
rescinding the tax cuts for the rich.

Greenspan is quoted as saying it would be "disastrous". Yet despite
experts opinions to the contrary, our paid for "representatives" keep
on blowing the same old dog whistle.

ARROYO GRANDE, Calif. (Marke****ch) -- "How my G.O.P. destroyed the
U.S. economy." Yes, that is exactly what David Stockman, President
Ronald Reagan's director of the Office of Management and Budget, wrote
in a recent New York Times op-ed piece, "Four Deformations of the
Apocalypse."

Get it? Not "destroying." The GOP has already "destroyed" the U.S.
economy, setting up an "American Apocalypse."

Stockman rushes into the ring swinging like a boxer: "If there were
such a thing as Chapter 11 for politicians, the Republican push to
extend the unaffordable Bush tax cuts would amount to a bankruptcy
filing. The nation's public debt ... will soon reach $18 trillion." It
screams "out for austerity and sacrifice." But instead, the GOP
insists "that the nation's wealthiest taxpayers be spared even a three-
percentage-point rate increase."

It goes on, but you can google it yourself if your interested.

might it be too much spending that is the problem? when taxes were higher,
the spending continued unchecked. They can never have enough money, so we
need to stop giving it to them.

On Aug 22, 6:05*pm, "Wallace" > wrote:

>
> might it be too much spending that is the problem? *when taxes were higher,
> the spending continued unchecked. *They can never have enough money, so we
> need to stop giving it to them.

Sure, there needs to be a balance though wouldn't you agree? There is
such a thing as "too little" for gawds sake, police, fire, education,
roads, parks, etc.. And if you look around you, you would probably
agree the balance has tilted a bit too far the other way. Saw this
tidbit a few times recently: Overall tax rates are the lowest since
WWII.

"tutall" > wrote in message
...
On Aug 22, 6:05 pm, "Wallace" > wrote:

>
> might it be too much spending that is the problem? when taxes were higher,
> the spending continued unchecked. They can never have enough money, so we
> need to stop giving it to them.

Sure, there needs to be a balance though wouldn't you agree? There is
such a thing as "too little" for gawds sake, police, fire, education,
roads, parks, etc.. And if you look around you, you would probably
agree the balance has tilted a bit too far the other way. Saw this
tidbit a few times recently: Overall tax rates are the lowest since
WWII.

no, I would not agree. the goverment take of GDP is probably higher than it
has ever been. And the number of people paying income taxes, for example, is
the lowest in decades. We have reached a tipping point, where more than 50%
of the people take more from the goverment than they contribute. This is
unsustainable.

Wallace wrote:
>
>
> google tax tipping point. Do your own damn research. get educated.
>
Please. The first few Google hits are from the Wall Street Journal
opinion page from 2008, a law professor's blog, Limbaugh's an expert as
well. Sheeit. I doubt that I'd get good UNBIASED information from these
right wing assholes, or their acolytes. What information is withheld to
support their view?

And you mother ****ers think *I'M* crazy?

I don't s'pose y'any know how to tame the smoke on my wood chunks, do
you....?

You god damned psychos.

-sw

On 25 Aug 2010 18:59:37 GMT, Charly Horse wrote:

> Sperts > wrote in
> :
>
>> First time with Lazzari lump. Maybe I'll try somebody's
>> suggestion of no smoking wood - just the lump. We'll see when I open
>> the bag. The bag does feel kinda heavy for it's size, which would led
>> credence to that theory.
>
> Since you bought a 40# bag ,, do you mean the bag is small for it's
> weight??

Yes, that too.

This lump is certainly denser than what I'm used to. And it burns quick
and hot out in the open (I left it warming up for 15 minutes without a body
on the smoker it was totally ashed over and pretty hot.

But with the lid on it performs well. I'm using less lump than my normal
brand.

-sw

On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:37:07 -0700 (PDT), tutall wrote:

> That's cheaper than I get it in Brisbane Worldwide HQ of Lazzari Fuel
> (snicker, I need to take some pictures of that decrepit warehouse
> before it falls down or is torn down as a danger)

Somebody from ba.food took these pics.

<http://portfolio.jcdill.com/Landscapes/Abandonment/12894795_SkndC#931221239_ioyuV>

-sw

On Oct 21, 10:43*pm, squirtz > wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:37:07 -0700 (PDT), tutall wrote:
> > *That's cheaper than I get it in Brisbane Worldwide HQ of Lazzari Fuel
> > (snicker, I need to take some pictures of that decrepit warehouse
> > before it falls down or is torn down as a danger)
>
> Somebody from ba.food took these pics.
>
> <http://portfolio.jcdill.com/Landscapes/Abandonment/12894795_SkndC#931...>
>
> -sw

Those are great. Thank you for sharing the link.

Can you imagine the inside of that warehouse, having housed wood and
coal products for however many years now? Semi open to the elements
and decrepit like it is?

Pictures 3 and 4 give an inkling, just.