We are looking at the possibility of bring N.C. BBQ to the great state of
California.
Watch for the signs (Coming Soon)

--
Carolina Cuisine L.L.C.
Jerry's Pit BBQ
1239 Lewis Ave
Billings MT 59102

"jerry" > wrote:
> We are looking at the possibility of bring N.C. BBQ to the great state of
> California. Watch for the signs (Coming Soon)

Thanks, but no thanks! We've already got the worst BBQ in the country and
don't need the bar lowered! Saints preserve us from BBQd SPAM!

--
Intuitive insights from Nick, Retired in the San Fernando Valley

http://operationiraqichildren.org/

wrote:
> "jerry" > wrote:
>> We are looking at the possibility of bring N.C. BBQ to the great state of
>> California. Watch for the signs (Coming Soon)
>
> Thanks, but no thanks! We've already got the worst BBQ in the country and
> don't need the bar lowered! Saints preserve us from BBQd SPAM!
>
> --
> Intuitive insights from Nick, Retired in the San Fernando Valley
>
> http://operationiraqichildren.org/

HEY!

I unnerstand that some people (Hawaiians? [Kili?]) like BBQ SPAM!

BOB

> wrote in message
...
> "jerry" > wrote:
> > We are looking at the possibility of bring N.C. BBQ to the great state
of
> > California. Watch for the signs (Coming Soon)
>
> Thanks, but no thanks! We've already got the worst BBQ in the country and
> don't need the bar lowered! Saints preserve us from BBQd SPAM!
>
Actually, I recall having rather good Carolina style Q in Fremont when I was
out there several years ago. The guy that ran the joint came from NC. I
had been out there several months, and it was a little taste of home.

I was in CT last week and it seemed like every restaurant was offering NC
Pulled Pork. What were those Yankees thinking? Just because the stole the
recipe doesn't mean they can make it....:} Sorry, but the worst Q is
probably made somewhere in the Northeast.


> --
> Intuitive insights from Nick, Retired in the San Fernando Valley
>
> http://operationiraqichildren.org/


--
Greg Leman
Carolina Sauce Company, Inc.
http://www.carolinasauce.com
A wide variety of sauces and specialty foods over the web.

" BOB" > wrote:
> wrote:
> > "jerry" > wrote:
> >> We are looking at the possibility of bring N.C. BBQ to the great state
> >> of California. Watch for the signs (Coming Soon)
> >
> > Thanks, but no thanks! We've already got the worst BBQ in the country
> > and don't need the bar lowered! Saints preserve us from BBQd SPAM!
> >
> > --
> > Intuitive insights from Nick, Retired in the San Fernando Valley
> >
> > http://operationiraqichildren.org/
>
> HEY!
>
> I unnerstand that some people (Hawaiians? [Kili?]) like BBQ SPAM!
>
BOB, BOB! They like Spam, not SPAM!

--
Intuitive insights from Nick, Retired in the San Fernando Valley

http://operationiraqichildren.org/

"Greg Leman" > wrote in message
>
> I was in CT last week and it seemed like every restaurant was offering NC
> Pulled Pork. What were those Yankees thinking? Just because the stole
the
> recipe doesn't mean they can make it....:} Sorry, but the worst Q is
> probably made somewhere in the Northeast.


You haven't been to my house. I make better than most of what I've had in
the Carolinas. If you are talking commercial stuff, very little of it is
worth trying. We have a place right in my town. Tried most things on the
menu once but have not gone back in over a year.
Ed

http://pages.cthome.net/edhome

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "Greg Leman" > wrote in message
>>
>> I was in CT last week and it seemed like every restaurant was
>> offering NC Pulled Pork. What were those Yankees thinking? Just
>> because the stole the recipe doesn't mean they can make it....:}
>> Sorry, but the worst Q is probably made somewhere in the Northeast.
>
>
> You haven't been to my house. I make better than most of what I've
> had in the Carolinas.

But that does not invalidate his guess that Puritan decendants adverse to
flavors are more apt to make bad Q. (I know, half my blood family fits this
description, can't cook worth a damn)
Besides, Canadians arent Yankees, now are they? Or are you proclaiming your
Yankeehood here and now there Harry? Bout time, guess those men in black did
their job, have they deciphered the encoded message in your name yet?


--

On 03 Jun 2004 19:59:07 GMT, wrote:

>Damnit, Chef. I said, "SPAM", not Spam. I like Spam, too, but haven't had
>it in a while.

SPAM in all caps is the registered trademark of Hormel. They have been
very good about allowing writers to refer to unsolicited mass e-mail
and multiposted Usenet messages as spam, provided that the writers use
lower-case letters.

From http://www.spam.com/ci/ci_in.htm

"We do not object to use of this slang term to describe UCE, although
we do object to the use of the word "spam" as a trademark and to the
use of our product image in association with that term. Also, if the
term is to be used, it should be used in all lower-case letters to
distinguish it from our trademark SPAM, which should be used with all
uppercase letters."

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"Who put these fingerprints on my imagination?"

Kevin S. Wilson > wrote:
> On 03 Jun 2004 19:59:07 GMT, wrote:
>
> >Damnit, Chef. I said, "SPAM", not Spam. I like Spam, too, but haven't
> >had it in a while.
>
> SPAM in all caps is the registered trademark of Hormel. They have been
> very good about allowing writers to refer to unsolicited mass e-mail
> and multiposted Usenet messages as spam, provided that the writers use
> lower-case letters.
>
> From http://www.spam.com/ci/ci_in.htm
>[]
Well, damnit, Kevin. The only mistake I've EVER made in my entire life!
I'll bet they wish their website was http://www.SPAM.com/ci/ci_in.htm
Thanks for the info. ;~)

--
Intuitive insights from Nick, Retired in the San Fernando Valley

http://operationiraqichildren.org/

wrote:

>>From http://www.spam.com/ci/ci_in.htm
>>[]
>
> Well, damnit, Kevin. The only mistake I've EVER made in my entire life!
> I'll bet they wish their website was http://www.SPAM.com/ci/ci_in.htm

Here's your second mistake: http://www.SPAM.com/ works as
well. :-) (Domain names are case insensitive.)

David Higgins > wrote:
> wrote:
>
> >>From http://www.spam.com/ci/ci_in.htm
> >>[]
> >
> > Well, damnit, Kevin. The only mistake I've EVER made in my entire life!
> > I'll bet they wish their website was http://www.SPAM.com/ci/ci_in.htm
>
> Here's your second mistake: http://www.SPAM.com/ works as
> well. :-) (Domain names are case insensitive.)

No. My second mistake was thinking that I would get away with my feeble
attempt at humor!

--
Intuitive insights from Nick, Retired in the San Fernando Valley

http://operationiraqichildren.org/

As a current, but temporary, resident of North Carolina I can honestly say
BBQ sucks here! Why would you want to spread it?!


"jerry" > wrote in message
hlink.net...
> We are looking at the possibility of bring N.C. BBQ to the great state of
> California.
> Watch for the signs (Coming Soon)
>
> --
> Carolina Cuisine L.L.C.
> Jerry's Pit BBQ
> 1239 Lewis Ave
> Billings MT 59102
>
>
>

You must be in Cary otherwise known as the Containment Area for Relocated
Yankees.

JD


"JKL" > wrote in message
om
> As a current, but temporary, resident of North Carolina I can
> honestly say BBQ sucks here! Why would you want to spread it?!
>
>
> "jerry" > wrote in message
> hlink.net...
>> We are looking at the possibility of bring N.C. BBQ to the great
>> state of California.
>> Watch for the signs (Coming Soon)
>>
>> --
>> Carolina Cuisine L.L.C.
>> Jerry's Pit BBQ
>> 1239 Lewis Ave
>> Billings MT 59102
>>

I don't know... I use a rub and vinegar baste purportedly in the NC style that
is KILLER on chicken, ribs AND pulled pork. Has to be my fave. Mesquite on
the chicken; usually hickory/pecan on the pork - though I used apple today.

Mike in St. Louis
(where the BBQ style REALLY sucks - give me NC ANY day)



In article >, lid
eloquently stated...
>
>On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 01:52:18 GMT, "JKL" > wrote:
>
>>As a current, but temporary, resident of North Carolina I can honestly say
>>BBQ sucks here! Why would you want to spread it?!
>
>That was my opinion of South Carolina BBQ when I lived there as
>well. There was one place that was pretty good, but most downright
>sucked. Tasted like it was cooked in an oven - who cares about
>any regional sauces if you can't get the meat right.
>
>-sw

On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 21:16:40 -0500, Steve Wertz
> wrote:

>On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 01:52:18 GMT, "JKL" > wrote:
>
>>As a current, but temporary, resident of North Carolina I can honestly say
>>BBQ sucks here! Why would you want to spread it?!
>
>That was my opinion of South Carolina BBQ when I lived there as
>well. There was one place that was pretty good, but most downright
>sucked. Tasted like it was cooked in an oven - who cares about
>any regional sauces if you can't get the meat right.
>
That was my experience, as well, while staying a few days in the
Research Triangle area. I had some good ribs at a couple places, but I
wasn't impressed by the pulled pork. It lacked any serious smoke
flavor, and its texture was unappealing. It was mushy, as if it had
been steamed. I like my pulled pork a bit more stringy, with some
bite.

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile."
--Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology

"JD" > wrote in message
...
> You must be in Cary otherwise known as the Containment Area for Relocated
> Yankees.
>

There's good and bad BBQ most places, but there's lots of excellent Q here
if you know where to look.

The only place I can think of in Cary that would be acceptable is Danny's.
IMHO, the better Q in the area is to be found in Durham.


--
Greg Leman
Carolina Sauce Company, Inc.
http://www.carolinasauce.com
A wide variety of sauces and specialty foods over the web.

> There's good and bad BBQ most places, but there's lots of excellent Q here
> if you know where to look.

Like Greg said, with so many BBQ joints in the Carolina's odds are good that
you're going to get BAD BBQ. Here in Charlotte I can't think of any that I
would recommend where you can sit down and eat, however, there are lots of
really good trailer 'Q - guys that park their rigs in a gas station parking
lot and server passersby.

My favorite time of year is when the Vol Fire Depts. and Churches start
roasting the pig for their fund raisers. That's usually the best BBQ you'll
get all year - 'cepting what you make in your own backyard.

"Scott Randolph" > wrote in message
. ..
> > There's good and bad BBQ most places, but there's lots of excellent Q
here
> > if you know where to look.
>
> Like Greg said, with so many BBQ joints in the Carolina's odds are good
that
> you're going to get BAD BBQ. Here in Charlotte I can't think of any that I
> would recommend where you can sit down and eat, however, there are lots of
> really good trailer 'Q - guys that park their rigs in a gas station
parking
> lot and server passersby.

Got to agree. I'm a native Charlotean (very rare) and can attest that there
are no good Q restaurants here. The parking lot guys do a real good job but
Q died in Charlotte when Duck closed Old Original BBQ on Camp Greene Street
many years ago.

>
> My favorite time of year is when the Vol Fire Depts. and Churches start
> roasting the pig for their fund raisers. That's usually the best BBQ
you'll
> get all year - 'cepting what you make in your own backyard.
>

Mallard Creek Church BBQ in October and the Poplar Tent Prebyterian BBQ in
March are to die for. Thousands of pounds of Q cooked over hickory and oak
coals by the church members is just great. These pits are hundreds of feet
long and the burn down pits are huge.
>

Michael wrote:
> "Scott Randolph" > wrote in message
> . ..
>>> There's good and bad BBQ most places, but there's lots of excellent
>>> Q here if you know where to look.

> Got to agree. I'm a native Charlotean (very rare) and can attest
> that there are no good Q restaurants here. The parking lot guys do a
> real good job but Q died in Charlotte when Duck closed Old Original
> BBQ on Camp Greene Street many years ago.
>
>>
>> My favorite time of year is when the Vol Fire Depts. and Churches
>> start roasting the pig for their fund raisers. That's usually the
>> best BBQ you'll get all year - 'cepting what you make in your own
>> backyard.
>>
>
> Mallard Creek Church BBQ in October and the Poplar Tent Prebyterian
> BBQ in March are to die for. Thousands of pounds of Q cooked over
> hickory and oak coals by the church members is just great. These
> pits are hundreds of feet long and the burn down pits are huge.

Hey you two, want an assignment? Take pictures at one of these and post them
on A.B.F. ? I for one would love to see something like that. DAMN. Hey, I'm
willing to wait till October, can any of us remember to though?


--

No, Fayetteville. The big small town. You've got BBQ joints (along with
Chinese/Thai joints) every block or so (along with the other stuff) and so
far (after a year and half of trying) all of them suck! But I'm a military
spouse originally from Seattle. I've traveled all over the nation including
bits and pieces of the South. Alabama, Georgia, Virginia, North Carolina,
Florida... am I a Yankee? Not as far as I know I'm only living here
temporarily.

Jenn

"JD" > wrote in message
...
> You must be in Cary otherwise known as the Containment Area for Relocated
> Yankees.
>
> JD
>
>
> "JKL" > wrote in message
> om
> > As a current, but temporary, resident of North Carolina I can
> > honestly say BBQ sucks here! Why would you want to spread it?!
> >
> >
> > "jerry" > wrote in message
> > hlink.net...
> >> We are looking at the possibility of bring N.C. BBQ to the great
> >> state of California.
> >> Watch for the signs (Coming Soon)
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carolina Cuisine L.L.C.
> >> Jerry's Pit BBQ
> >> 1239 Lewis Ave
> >> Billings MT 59102
> >>
>
>

"Duwop" > wrote in message
...
> Michael wrote:
> > "Scott Randolph" > wrote in message
>> >> My favorite time of year is when the Vol Fire Depts. and Churches
> >> start roasting the pig for their fund raisers. That's usually the
> >> best BBQ you'll get all year - 'cepting what you make in your own
> >> backyard.
> >>
> >
> > Mallard Creek Church BBQ in October and the Poplar Tent Prebyterian
> > BBQ in March are to die for. Thousands of pounds of Q cooked over
> > hickory and oak coals by the church members is just great. These
> > pits are hundreds of feet long and the burn down pits are huge.
>
> Hey you two, want an assignment? Take pictures at one of these and post
them
> on A.B.F. ? I for one would love to see something like that. DAMN. Hey,
I'm
> willing to wait till October, can any of us remember to though?

A quick google resulted in some photos of the '99 event.

http://www.mallardcreekpresbyterian....e=bbq_pix_1999

Poplar Tent Church is just slightly smaller and only about five miles (two
exits on I-85) away.

Poplar Tent Church was organized in 1751.

Michael wrote:
> "Duwop" > wrote in message

>> Hey you two, want an assignment? Take pictures at one of these and
>> post them on A.B.F. ? I for one would love to see something like
>> that. DAMN. Hey, I'm willing to wait till October, can any of us
>> remember to though?
>
> A quick google resulted in some photos of the '99 event.
>
> http://www.mallardcreekpresbyterian....e=bbq_pix_1999
>
> Poplar Tent Church is just slightly smaller and only about five miles
> (two exits on I-85) away.
>

Well damn! Didnt even think to look. Thank you sir, it looks like quite an
event. Loved the pics with all the cookers going. That must be quite a smell
they put off.

--

Kevin S. Wilson > wrote in message >. ..
> On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 21:16:40 -0500, Steve Wertz
> > wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 01:52:18 GMT, "JKL" > wrote:
> >
> >>As a current, but temporary, resident of North Carolina I can honestly say
> >>BBQ sucks here! Why would you want to spread it?!
> >
> >That was my opinion of South Carolina BBQ when I lived there as
> >well. There was one place that was pretty good, but most downright
> >sucked. Tasted like it was cooked in an oven - who cares about
> >any regional sauces if you can't get the meat right.
> >
> That was my experience, as well, while staying a few days in the
> Research Triangle area. I had some good ribs at a couple places, but I
> wasn't impressed by the pulled pork. It lacked any serious smoke
> flavor, and its texture was unappealing. It was mushy, as if it had
> been steamed. I like my pulled pork a bit more stringy, with some
> bite.

What about Brunswick stew? A BBQ cannot take place in
North Carolina without serving Brunswick stew. In fact,
it seems that Brunswick stew cooked in the backyard and
served up by itself is called "BBQ".

-- Yip

> Got to agree. I'm a native Charlotean (very rare) and can attest that
there
> are no good Q restaurants here. The parking lot guys do a real good job
but
> Q died in Charlotte when Duck closed Old Original BBQ on Camp Greene
Street
> many years ago.

My wife's father was a volunteer for the Pineville Fire Dept years ago. They
had the best BBQ I can recall ever having. Last time I had any though was
almost 20 years ago.

> Mallard Creek Church BBQ in October and the Poplar Tent Prebyterian BBQ in
> March are to die for. Thousands of pounds of Q cooked over hickory and
oak
> coals by the church members is just great. These pits are hundreds of
feet
> long and the burn down pits are huge.

I hear about Mallard Creek every year and haven't been yet. I need to go
this year!

"Scott Randolph" > wrote in message
...
> > > Mallard Creek Church BBQ in October and the Poplar Tent Prebyterian
BBQ in
> > March are to die for. Thousands of pounds of Q cooked over hickory and
> oak
> > coals by the church members is just great. These pits are hundreds of
> feet
> > long and the burn down pits are huge.
>
> I hear about Mallard Creek every year and haven't been yet. I need to go
> this year!

I recommend that the first time you go you actually get out of your car
(many people don't want to put up with the hassle and just get plates at the
drive in area) and face the gauntlet of politicians. A true sight to see,
all these guys in suits wanting your vote and all you want is some good Q.

Just remember that it was Rufus Edminston who is reputed to have lost the
race for governor because he was overheard saying he was sick of BBQ from
all the fund raisers and church BBQ's. Sick of BBQ? That man isn't
qualified to run this state!

"Michael" > wrote in message

> "Scott Randolph" > wrote in message
> ...
<snip>
> Just remember that it was Rufus Edminston who is reputed to have lost
> the race for governor because he was overheard saying he was sick of
> BBQ from all the fund raisers and church BBQ's. Sick of BBQ? That
> man isn't qualified to run this state!

Worse than that, he must be some Yankee carpetbagger.

JD

Scott Randolph wrote:
SNIP
> however, there are lots of really good trailer 'Q - guys that park
> their rigs in a gas station parking lot and server passersby.

I saw one of them last August, can't remember the name, couldn't stop and
sample at the time.

>
> My favorite time of year is when the Vol Fire Depts. and Churches
> start roasting the pig for their fund raisers. That's usually the
> best BBQ you'll get all year - 'cepting what you make in your own
> backyard.

Down here in Lancaster, SC (35 miles south of Charlotte) we tried the local
FD fund raiser. Taste was similar to pig we had at Lexington in Lex. NC, not
much different than if you cooked it in the oven, I wasn't excited. The best
was the outer meat which had a bit o bark.

--
"Piedmont", from Northern, South Carolina!

IN REVERSE: MOC DOT OOHAY AT 4201LIWMA

Michael wrote:
SNIP
> Mallard Creek Church BBQ in October and the Poplar Tent Prebyterian
> BBQ in March are to die for. Thousands of pounds of Q cooked over
> hickory and oak coals by the church members is just great. These
> pits are hundreds of feet long and the burn down pits are huge.

Is this Mallard Creek Church in the phone book? I'd like to try them out.
Dang, I missed the March/PTP Q!

--
"Piedmont", from Northern, South Carolina!

IN REVERSE: MOC DOT OOHAY AT 4201LIWMA

On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 01:52:18 GMT, "JKL" > wrote:

>As a current, but temporary, resident of North Carolina I can honestly say
>BBQ sucks here! Why would you want to spread it?!
>
>
>"jerry" > wrote in message
thlink.net...
>> We are looking at the possibility of bring N.C. BBQ to the great state of
>> California.
>> Watch for the signs (Coming Soon)
>>
>> --
>> Carolina Cuisine L.L.C.
>> Jerry's Pit BBQ
>> 1239 Lewis Ave
>> Billings MT 59102
>>
>>
>>
>

Any North Carolinian knows that the best BBQ is in the eastern part of
the state (Clinton, Kinston, Goldsboro, Greenville) far away from the
urban areas in the old cinder block buildings. Lexington has great
BBQ. But, let's not confuse the famed eastern NC BBQ with that of any
other part of the state. I'm speaking of the spots where the grease
pours off the roof and you can hear the pigs squeal out back.

Most relocated yankees would never be able to find a real BBQ joint in
this state. Even fewer would actually eat in one if they did. Most
of the crap west of the triangle is just a Yankees' strip mall version
of Texas BBQ.

I can only think of three places that even have the eastern NC style
of BBQ in the triangle... Don Murray's, The BBQ Lodge, and Coopers.

FWIW, Danny's is not NC BBQ.

"Ben" > wrote in message
news <snip>
> I can only think of three places that even have the eastern NC style
> of BBQ in the triangle... Don Murray's, The BBQ Lodge, and Coopers.
>
> FWIW, Danny's is not NC BBQ.

I'd have to add Ole Time BBQ in Raleigh to that list. And Smithfields in
Garner probably counts as the Triangle, although it seems more like a chain
than a joint.

Western Style NC Q has its merits, it's just different. It's like comparing
a Cabernet to a Chardonnay.

--
Greg Leman
Carolina Sauce Company, Inc.
http://www.carolinasauce.com
A wide variety of sauces and specialty foods over the web.

Ben wrote:
> Most relocated yankees would never be able to find a real BBQ joint in
> this state. Even fewer would actually eat in one if they did. Most
> of the crap west of the triangle is just a Yankees' strip mall version
> of Texas BBQ.

Well a Yankee from Chicago just might...a couple of what are reputed to
be the best joints in town, on the South Side, are little take-out-only
holes-in-the-wall in neighborhoods where you could be pardoned for
refusing to get out of your car without a phalanx of armed guards.

"Most of the crap west of the triangle is just a Yankees' strip mall
version
of Texas BBQ."

You are WAY outta line! I haven't seen ANYTHING remotely like Texas Q
west of the Triangle or for that matter ANYWHERE in North Carolina!

When it comes to NC "Q" most of what I've seen around here isn't Q
anyway. The "pits" I see hauled around on catering trucks are nothing
but, propane fired roasting ovens. No smoke, no wood, no flavor!

But, there are a few places that still use wood! Stamey's in
Greensboro and most of the well known establishments in Lexington are
some fine examples of what you call "crap west of the triangle" .

So stick with what you THINK you know EAST of Raleigh and STFU about
stuff you don't!

Rob (who thinks this might just be troll bait anyways)

On 9 Jun 2004 20:59:06 -0500, Ben > wrote:

>I can only think of three places that even have the eastern NC style
>of BBQ in the triangle... Don Murray's, The BBQ Lodge, and Coopers.

What about Allen & Son? It was closed when I was visiting the Triangle
area.

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile."
--Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology

Has anyone tried Courtney's in Clover, SC? I drove down there one weekend
trying to locate the place. I couldn't find it and ending up stopping by
Ron's Pig Palace (trailer Q).

Ron does a pretty good job and two days a week he parks his trailer up in my
neck of the woods (Huntersville). For somebody that obviously works so hard
at his craft I try to stop by once a week to buy some pork or beef.

Scott