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Does anyone know whether it is safe to eat those stuff via cooking the
way the SE Asians cook? I have a friend from Thailand syaing that she
doesn't cook the fish paste because there are parasite in those
products. Don't those parasite die when you cook?


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Amanda wrote:

Steve Wertz wrote:

On 15 Jun 2006 11:20:23 -0700, Amanda wrote:


Does anyone know whether it is safe to eat those stuff via cooking the
way the SE Asians cook? I have a friend from Thailand syaing that she
doesn't cook the fish paste because there are parasite in those
products. Don't those parasite die when you cook?


It is a well-established fact that many people who post using
Google are gullible and susceptible to all sorts of parasites.
Millions of people eat that stuff every day and don't get
parasites, but I would stay away from it if I were you.



Growing up in an SE Asian country - we are not SE Asian indeginous , my
family didn't use any of those. In US, we, the siblinsg, at least
started using fish sauce in a few certain ethnic dishes partly because
we can make what Mom made to replace that ingredient. Lately, after
becoming friends with some people who love those fish paste dishes, I
tried it (when I visted them) and liked some of the ways it was made
but not enough to make it at my place. Smell is too strong. Also, it
only goes with rice and I can't eat too much rice.

Recently, when asking a friend who is from Thailand but Chinese
ethnically how people cook it in Thailand, I was surprised at her
comment abpot the parasite. She did say that it was when some people
eat it raw. These people did have health problem from it. But
parasite is not just in that thing (bottled raw fish paste) only and so
I guess it is not a dangerous food source such that those parasite
would not get killed.

What is your reason of suggesting me to stay away from it? Smell or
other reasons?


Amanda - he's playing with you. As long as the thing is cooked properly
there is no reason why it should be unsafe. As he said, why would
millions of people be using something if it was so unhealthy?

Also, some things, such as fish sauce, don't smell very good, but they
combine deliciously with other spices and sauces.

Ian





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Amanda wrote:
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In US, we, the siblinsg, at least
started using fish sauce in a few certain ethnic dishes partly because
we can make what Mom made to replace that ingredient.


We can't make...

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ian wrote:
Amanda wrote:

Steve Wertz wrote:

[..]


What is your reason of suggesting me to stay away from it? Smell or
other reasons?


Amanda - he's playing with you.


I see.

As long as the thing is cooked properly there is no reason why it should be unsafe.


Good. What about the preservatives? Did they put too much of it in
those bottles? The one I got to look at was from Laos and it says
"snakehead" on the bottle. We grew up with that fish - fresh version.
It's a very tasty fish. Oh, I have another friend (from my country) who
said that he uses a particular brand from Thailand. I told him to buy
me a bottle when he visits us so that I would get the brand name.

I like the way those people were eating their steam veges with that
fish paste dish with rice. Gee, my friend shouldn't have talked me out
of it. I was planning to get those people show me which bottle to buy
sot hat I could try coking like them but only in the back yard outside
the house. I have a hot plate.

BTW, do you think there is still protein in those fish paste (raw)?
Does protein in fish denatured when treated like that? I guess this is
sci.bio.* question but i doubt that they jave info on this item.

As he said, why would millions of people be using something if it was so unhealthy?

Also, some things, such as fish sauce, don't smell very good, but they
combine deliciously with other spices and sauces.


Yes, I use fish sauce - just a few drop - in one dish but I can't eat
it frequently cus the sauce (made with "boiled fish meat cooked with
spice" and roasted rice powder in fish broth made with with lemon
grass, etc. ) they make is not high enough in protein for me.

I use noodle made from wheat flour but kind of looks like rice noodle
(but now I realized that it doesn't taste the same at all) and I made
my version using yellow split peas - boiled - instead of roasted rice
powder but nobody, not even my siblings, would say it's that dish- I
used to be satisfied with mine but now, I realized how far off it was
from the authentic version and don't feel too motivated to make.

Ian


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Amanda wrote:
ian wrote:

Amanda wrote:


Steve Wertz wrote:


[..]


What is your reason of suggesting me to stay away from it? Smell or
other reasons?


Amanda - he's playing with you.



I see.


As long as the thing is cooked properly there is no reason why it should be unsafe.



Good. What about the preservatives? Did they put too much of it in
those bottles? The one I got to look at was from Laos and it says
"snakehead" on the bottle. We grew up with that fish - fresh version.
It's a very tasty fish. Oh, I have another friend (from my country) who
said that he uses a particular brand from Thailand. I told him to buy
me a bottle when he visits us so that I would get the brand name.

I like the way those people were eating their steam veges with that
fish paste dish with rice. Gee, my friend shouldn't have talked me out
of it. I was planning to get those people show me which bottle to buy
sot hat I could try coking like them but only in the back yard outside
the house. I have a hot plate.

BTW, do you think there is still protein in those fish paste (raw)?
Does protein in fish denatured when treated like that? I guess this is
sci.bio.* question but i doubt that they jave info on this item.


Sorry - I'm no expert.




As he said, why would millions of people be using something if it was so unhealthy?

Also, some things, such as fish sauce, don't smell very good, but they
combine deliciously with other spices and sauces.



Yes, I use fish sauce - just a few drop - in one dish but I can't eat
it frequently cus the sauce (made with "boiled fish meat cooked with
spice" and roasted rice powder in fish broth made with with lemon
grass, etc. ) they make is not high enough in protein for me.

I use noodle made from wheat flour but kind of looks like rice noodle
(but now I realized that it doesn't taste the same at all) and I made
my version using yellow split peas - boiled - instead of roasted rice
powder but nobody, not even my siblings, would say it's that dish- I
used to be satisfied with mine but now, I realized how far off it was
from the authentic version and don't feel too motivated to make.


I don't know where you live, but 'rice stick' noodles are widely
available (well, here in VA, anyway). You can even buy them on the web
if you have no local store.

ian


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