ian <spammapsglenizrainmapsspammaps@spamerolsspammaps. invalid> wrote:
> Hi -
>
> What would be a good estimate of the equivalent measure of fish sauce
> for, say, a teaspoon of salt? Is double about right? Or is it very
> variable depending on the fish sauce brand?
>
> Thanks,
>
One Tablespoon (15 g.) of the Tra Chang fish sauce that I have right now,
contains 1170 mg. of sodium. If I remember this when I'm sober, I'll figure
out how much salt that would be (1-1/2 tsp?).

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On Sun, 09 May 2004 23:25:35 -0700, ian
<spammapsglenizrainmapsspammaps@spamerolsspammaps. invalid> wrote:

>Hi -
>
>What would be a good estimate of the equivalent measure of fish sauce
>for, say, a teaspoon of salt? Is double about right? Or is it very
>variable depending on the fish sauce brand?

Fish sauce has about ~500mg of salt per teaspoon according to the
bottle I have at hand.

Another source on the internet says 27-28grams per 100ml. Which
according to my math doesn't quite work out to anywhere near what
my bottle says. My math usually sucks, though.

-sw

Steve Wertz > wrote:
> On Sun, 09 May 2004 23:25:35 -0700, ian
> <spammapsglenizrainmapsspammaps@spamerolsspammaps. invalid> wrote:
>
> >Hi -
> >
> >What would be a good estimate of the equivalent measure of fish sauce
> >for, say, a teaspoon of salt? Is double about right? Or is it very
> >variable depending on the fish sauce brand?
>
> Fish sauce has about ~500mg of salt per teaspoon according to the
> bottle I have at hand.
>
Is that salt or sodium? I'm too gone ta even find the book with the
Periodic Table and such. Manana is a distinct maybe.

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On 10 May 2004 04:17:07 GMT, wrote:

>Steve Wertz > wrote:
>> On Sun, 09 May 2004 23:25:35 -0700, ian
>> <spammapsglenizrainmapsspammaps@spamerolsspammaps. invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi -
>> >
>> >What would be a good estimate of the equivalent measure of fish sauce
>> >for, say, a teaspoon of salt? Is double about right? Or is it very
>> >variable depending on the fish sauce brand?
>>
>> Fish sauce has about ~500mg of salt per teaspoon according to the
>> bottle I have at hand.
>>
>Is that salt or sodium?

That's sodium according to the nutritional info. But I figure
99.9% of that figure is sodium chloride (AKA salt).

A teaspoon of salt contains 2,300mg of sodium, so that figures to
about 1 teaspoon of salt in 5 teaspoons of fish sauce (rounding it
out), according to my currently stocked brand.

-sw

Hi -

What would be a good estimate of the equivalent measure of fish sauce
for, say, a teaspoon of salt? Is double about right? Or is it very
variable depending on the fish sauce brand?

Thanks,

Ian

Salut/Hi Steve Wertz,

le/on Sun, 09 May 2004 23:48:47 -0500, tu disais/you said:-

>That's sodium according to the nutritional info. But I figure
>99.9% of that figure is sodium chloride (AKA salt).

Beware.

>A teaspoon of salt contains 2,300mg of sodium,

Assuming that a tsp of salt weighs 6 gms (which I wouldn't argue with).

> so that figures to about 1 teaspoon of salt in 5 teaspoons of fish sauce (rounding it
>out), according to my currently stocked brand.

I've not done the figures (too bloody lazy) but I know that sometimes salt
content is _expressed_ as sodium. By this I mean that if you add a tsp of
salt (near enough 100% for govt contract) which weighs around 6 gms, to a
litre of unsalted soup, you would reckon that the soups contains 6 gms/litre
salt, right? Wrong!! Not for many manufacturers of pre-prepared foods! They
express salt as "sodium" and therefore your (and my) 6 gms of salt becomes
23*6/58.5 = 2.66 salt expressed as sodium.

So you have to read the fine print VERY carefully to find out just how the
salt is expressed.


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In article >,
wrote:

> Steve Wertz > wrote:
> > On Sun, 09 May 2004 23:25:35 -0700, ian
> > <spammapsglenizrainmapsspammaps@spamerolsspammaps. invalid> wrote:
> >
> > >Hi -
> > >
> > >What would be a good estimate of the equivalent measure of fish sauce
> > >for, say, a teaspoon of salt? Is double about right? Or is it very
> > >variable depending on the fish sauce brand?
> >
> > Fish sauce has about ~500mg of salt per teaspoon according to the
> > bottle I have at hand.
> >
> Is that salt or sodium? I'm too gone ta even find the book with the
> Periodic Table and such. Manana is a distinct maybe.

Table salt is sodium chloride. Fish sauce is going to have other sodium
salts and such besides the chloride. Could be the difference in
Steve's calculations, as well.
Might be better to consult a recipe for prahoc or somesuch. That'll
tell you a salt:fish ratio to work with.
Don't forget that this is a solid versus liquid thing and density does
figure in there.

monroe(this is more like an essay test question)

On Mon, 10 May 2004 14:52:38 GMT, "Monroe, of course..."
> wrote:

>In article >,
wrote:
>
>> Steve Wertz > wrote:
>> > On Sun, 09 May 2004 23:25:35 -0700, ian
>> > <spammapsglenizrainmapsspammaps@spamerolsspammaps. invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> > >Hi -
>> > >
>> > >What would be a good estimate of the equivalent measure of fish sauce
>> > >for, say, a teaspoon of salt? Is double about right? Or is it very
>> > >variable depending on the fish sauce brand?
>> >
>> > Fish sauce has about ~500mg of salt per teaspoon according to the
>> > bottle I have at hand.
>> >
>> Is that salt or sodium? I'm too gone ta even find the book with the
>> Periodic Table and such. Manana is a distinct maybe.
>
>Table salt is sodium chloride. Fish sauce is going to have other sodium
>salts and such besides the chloride. Could be the difference in
>Steve's calculations, as well.

Some of it might actually be MSG (still a sodium), so I was
probably wrong about the 99.9% NaCl.

Perhaps this needs to be crossposted to sci.chemistry, or you
could just use 1tsp salt per 4ts fish sauce ;-)

To the OP, what you got against fish sauce? Good stuff. I can't
think of any recipe that calls for FS that I'd try and leave it
out.

-sw

Steve Wertz > wrote:
> On 10 May 2004 04:17:07 GMT, wrote:
>
> >Steve Wertz > wrote:
> >> On Sun, 09 May 2004 23:25:35 -0700, ian
> >> <spammapsglenizrainmapsspammaps@spamerolsspammaps. invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Hi -
> >> >
> >> >What would be a good estimate of the equivalent measure of fish sauce
> >> >for, say, a teaspoon of salt? Is double about right? Or is it very
> >> >variable depending on the fish sauce brand?
> >>
> >> Fish sauce has about ~500mg of salt per teaspoon according to the
> >> bottle I have at hand.
> >>
> >Is that salt or sodium?
>
> That's sodium according to the nutritional info. But I figure
> 99.9% of that figure is sodium chloride (AKA salt).
>
> A teaspoon of salt contains 2,300mg of sodium, so that figures to
> about 1 teaspoon of salt in 5 teaspoons of fish sauce (rounding it
> out), according to my currently stocked brand.
>
OK. The reason I asked is that salt, NaCl, is 40% sodium by weight, 60%
chlorine. If one tsp. (5 ml.) of table salt contains 2,360 mg sodium, the
total amount of salt would be 5.9 gms.

So the 'Tra Chang' fish sauce I have is 5 gms/tsp. and contains 390 mg.
sodium/tsp., equivalent to 1/6 tsp. (about 1 gm.) of table salt as near as
I can tell.

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ian wrote:

> Hi -
>
> What would be a good estimate of the equivalent measure of fish sauce
> for, say, a teaspoon of salt? Is double about right? Or is it very
> variable depending on the fish sauce brand?

Try this: eat a teaspoon of salt. Remember that feeling that it gives
you. Then drink a quantity of fish sauce, increasing "dosage" until you
get the same feeling, or you pass out. <BEG>

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Nathan Lau
San Jose, CA

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Nathan Lau > wrote:
> ian wrote:
>
> > Hi -
> >
> > What would be a good estimate of the equivalent measure of fish sauce
> > for, say, a teaspoon of salt? Is double about right? Or is it very
> > variable depending on the fish sauce brand?
>
> Try this: eat a teaspoon of salt. Remember that feeling that it gives
> you. Then drink a quantity of fish sauce, increasing "dosage" until you
> get the same feeling, or you pass out. <BEG>

Nate,

Have you been into the cooking Sherry this early in the day? LMAO

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"Giving violent criminals a government guarantee that their intended
victims are defenseless is bad public policy."
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If you can read this, thank a teacher.
If you can read it in English, THANK A VETERAN!

On Mon, 10 May 2004 18:31:25 GMT, Nathan Lau
> wrote:

>ian wrote:
>
>> Hi -
>>
>> What would be a good estimate of the equivalent measure of fish sauce
>> for, say, a teaspoon of salt? Is double about right? Or is it very
>> variable depending on the fish sauce brand?
>
>Try this: eat a teaspoon of salt. Remember that feeling that it gives
>you. Then drink a quantity of fish sauce, increasing "dosage" until you
>get the same feeling, or you pass out. <BEG>

That gives me idea - Fish Sauce Breath Freshener! Great for
smokers!

Actuually, you could probably dehydrate dome fish sauce and assume
90% of what you have left in solids is salt.

-sw

Steve Wertz > wrote:
> On Mon, 10 May 2004 18:31:25 GMT, Nathan Lau
> > wrote:
>
> >ian wrote:
> >
> >> Hi -
> >>
> >> What would be a good estimate of the equivalent measure of fish sauce
> >> for, say, a teaspoon of salt? Is double about right? Or is it very
> >> variable depending on the fish sauce brand?
> >
> >Try this: eat a teaspoon of salt. Remember that feeling that it gives
> >you. Then drink a quantity of fish sauce, increasing "dosage" until you
> >get the same feeling, or you pass out. <BEG>
>
> That gives me idea - Fish Sauce Breath Freshener! Great for
> smokers!
>
And Garlic! Definitely add lots of garlic! Perhaps a touch of Peat?

--
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"Giving violent criminals a government guarantee that their intended
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If you can read it in English, THANK A VETERAN!

wrote:
> Nathan Lau > wrote:
>
>>ian wrote:
>>>
>>>What would be a good estimate of the equivalent measure of fish sauce
>>>for, say, a teaspoon of salt? Is double about right? Or is it very
>>>variable depending on the fish sauce brand?
>>
>>Try this: eat a teaspoon of salt. Remember that feeling that it gives
>>you. Then drink a quantity of fish sauce, increasing "dosage" until you
>>get the same feeling, or you pass out. <BEG>
>
> Nate,
>
> Have you been into the cooking Sherry this early in the day? LMAO

No, just trying my hand at being a smartass like Wertz here (no offense,
Steve. Love you! :-x ). How'm I doing?

--
Aloha,

Nathan Lau
San Jose, CA

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> wrote in message
...
> Steve Wertz > wrote:
> > On Mon, 10 May 2004 18:31:25 GMT, Nathan Lau
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >ian wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi -
> > >>
> > >> What would be a good estimate of the equivalent measure of fish sauce
> > >> for, say, a teaspoon of salt? Is double about right? Or is it very
> > >> variable depending on the fish sauce brand?
> > >
> > >Try this: eat a teaspoon of salt. Remember that feeling that it gives
> > >you. Then drink a quantity of fish sauce, increasing "dosage" until
you
> > >get the same feeling, or you pass out. <BEG>
> >
> > That gives me idea - Fish Sauce Breath Freshener! Great for
> > smokers!
> >
> And Garlic! Definitely add lots of garlic! Perhaps a touch of Peat?
>
> --
> Intuitive insights from Nick, Retired in the San Fernando Valley
> "Giving violent criminals a government guarantee that their intended
> victims are defenseless is bad public policy."
> - John Ross, "Unintended Consequences"
> If you can read this, thank a teacher.
> If you can read it in English, THANK A VETERAN!
Steve-Nick
Tried it, the so-ju still came through-it least to people that could get
close enough( i.e. in the same room<g>)
John

On Mon, 10 May 2004 21:11:55 GMT, Nathan Lau
> wrote:

>No, just trying my hand at being a smartass like Wertz here (no offense,
>Steve. Love you! :-x ). How'm I doing?

I thought I managed to be fairly complaint in this group.
Granted, I'm a smart-ass most everywhere else. I still have
moments of clarity, though. I think.

-sw

Nathan Lau > wrote:
> wrote:
> >[]
> > Have you been into the cooking Sherry this early in the day? LMAO
>
> No, just trying my hand at being a smartass like Wertz here (no offense,
> Steve. Love you! :-x ). How'm I doing?

Love you! :-x ? Nate, you mahu?

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"Giving violent criminals a government guarantee that their intended
victims are defenseless is bad public policy."
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Steve Wertz > wrote:
> []
> I still have moments of clarity, though. I think.
>
Yeah. We can see right through you!

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In article >, Steve Wertz
> wrote:

> Perhaps this needs to be crossposted to sci.chemistry, or you
> could just use 1tsp salt per 4ts fish sauce ;-)

Yeah probably-it does my heart ill to see the OP disparaging our
'circle-geek-out' (to coin as phrase)
My own personal 'oral salinimeter' is calibrated to 2:1
FS:NaCl - It's about half as salty as salt (I'm using Squid brand at
the moment)

> To the OP, what you got against fish sauce? Good stuff. I can't
> think of any recipe that calls for FS that I'd try and leave it
> out.

No sh*t - I'm constantly seeking new ways to use the stuff - hell it
even adds to Blue Box mac&cheese...
I even snuck some into the local sushi bar last time I went.

monroe(nore nouc mam less kook mom)

In article >, Steve Wertz
> wrote:

> I thought I managed to be fairly complaint in this group.
^^^^^^^
Freudian Slip Alert!

monroe(LOL)

On Tue, 11 May 2004 02:31:28 GMT, "Monroe, of course..."
> wrote:

>In article >, Steve Wertz
> wrote:
>
>> I thought I managed to be fairly complaint in this group.
> ^^^^^^^
>Freudian Slip Alert!

If you referring to "complaint" (can't tell since you don't use a
fixed-width font - hint!) that was supposed to say "compliant", as
in: "A good little boy". So screw you, OK?

:-P

-sw

Steve Wertz wrote:

> On Mon, 10 May 2004 14:52:38 GMT, "Monroe, of course..."
> > wrote:
>
>
>>In article >,
wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Steve Wertz > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 09 May 2004 23:25:35 -0700, ian
>>>><spammapsglenizrainmapsspammaps@spamerolsspamm aps.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi -
>>>>>
>>>>>What would be a good estimate of the equivalent measure of fish sauce
>>>>>for, say, a teaspoon of salt? Is double about right? Or is it very
>>>>>variable depending on the fish sauce brand?
>>>>
>>>>Fish sauce has about ~500mg of salt per teaspoon according to the
>>>>bottle I have at hand.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Is that salt or sodium? I'm too gone ta even find the book with the
>>>Periodic Table and such. Manana is a distinct maybe.
>>
>>Table salt is sodium chloride. Fish sauce is going to have other sodium
>>salts and such besides the chloride. Could be the difference in
>>Steve's calculations, as well.
>
>
> Some of it might actually be MSG (still a sodium), so I was
> probably wrong about the 99.9% NaCl.
>
> Perhaps this needs to be crossposted to sci.chemistry, or you
> could just use 1tsp salt per 4ts fish sauce ;-)
>
> To the OP, what you got against fish sauce? Good stuff. I can't
> think of any recipe that calls for FS that I'd try and leave it
> out.
>
> -sw

Actually, I was trying to go the other way - use fish sauce where a
Chinese recipe called for salt. I thought, like you it seems, that it
would make it tastier. I knew one of my books had an equivalence
statement, but of course, when you want the info, its nowhere to be found.

Ian

ian wrote:

> Hi -
>
> What would be a good estimate of the equivalent measure of fish sauce
> for, say, a teaspoon of salt? Is double about right? Or is it very
> variable depending on the fish sauce brand?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ian
>

Well, thanks everybody, you are all a bunch of comedians when you're not
being chemists. I guess the equivalent amount of fish sauce is as long
as a piece of string.

I think I'll start out assuming my fish sauce is about half as potent as
salt, then add more until it seems ok.

Ian