I am just about to buy a parcel of land planted with a number of
untrained table grape vines. I want to replant part
of the land with wine grapes trained on trellises. I was made aware
that if I remove the old vines I would need to
let the soil rest before replanting can occur.

Should I let it rest and how long should I wait before replanting with
the new?

Cheers

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>,
fishziblu > wrote:

> I am just about to buy a parcel of land planted with a number of
> untrained table grape vines. I want to replant part
> of the land with wine grapes trained on trellises. I was made aware
> that if I remove the old vines I would need to
> let the soil rest before replanting can occur.
>
> Should I let it rest and how long should I wait before replanting with
> the new?
>
> Cheers

I don't see any reason to rest the soil. The crummier the soil, the
better the wine. What is the root stock, if any? If the vines are
labrusca, pull and plant. If the scion wood is vinifera, whack it off
the root stock, and t-bud.
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"The crummier the soil, the
better the wine."

Total myth.



On Jan 30, 9:41*pm, Wildbilly > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
> *fishziblu > wrote:
> > I am just about to buy a parcel of land planted with a number of
> > untrained table grape vines. I want to replant part
> > of the land with wine grapes trained on trellises. I was made aware
> > that if I remove the old vines I would need to
> > let the soil rest before replanting can occur.
>
> > Should I let it rest and how long should I wait before replanting with
> > the new?
>
> > Cheers
>
> I don't see any reason to rest the soil. The crummier the soil, the
> better the wine. What is the root stock, if any? If the vines are
> labrusca, pull and plant. If the scion wood is vinifera, whack it off
> the root stock, and t-bud.
> --
> "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
> merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100119/...1/19/headlines

In article
>,
wrote:

> "The crummier the soil, the
> better the wine."
>
> Total myth.

Can I get a cite on that?
Fertile soil may give a large crop (good if yo are going to sell) but,
struggling vines set small grapes.

>
>
> On Jan 30, 9:41*pm, Wildbilly > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> >
> > *fishziblu > wrote:
> > > I am just about to buy a parcel of land planted with a number of
> > > untrained table grape vines. I want to replant part
> > > of the land with wine grapes trained on trellises. I was made aware
> > > that if I remove the old vines I would need to
> > > let the soil rest before replanting can occur.
> >
> > > Should I let it rest and how long should I wait before replanting with
> > > the new?
> >
> > > Cheers
> >
> > I don't see any reason to rest the soil. The crummier the soil, the
> > better the wine. What is the root stock, if any? If the vines are
> > labrusca, pull and plant. If the scion wood is vinifera, whack it off
> > the root stock, and t-bud.
> > --
> > "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
> > merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
> >
> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100119/...rrestin...http
> > ://www.democracynow.org/2010/1/19/headlines
--
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merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.

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Hi to all,

Thanks. I got a vinegrower to look at the field, he told me that the
land loves vines.
We just pruned the existing vines and we got a year's growth averaging
12 feet from
almost all the vineplants. No irrigation. Soil mostly clay and some
limestone.

The current vines planted in the land is a local varietal grafted on
american rootstock.
Girgentina its called, thought to be imported by the knights from
France. (i.e. 450yrs ago)

I intend to plant syrah or cabernet sauv. also grafted on american
stock.

In article
>,
fishziblu > wrote:

> Hi to all,
>
> Thanks. I got a vinegrower to look at the field, he told me that the
> land loves vines.
> We just pruned the existing vines and we got a year's growth averaging
> 12 feet from
> almost all the vineplants. No irrigation. Soil mostly clay and some
> limestone.
>
> The current vines planted in the land is a local varietal grafted on
> american rootstock.
> Girgentina its called, thought to be imported by the knights from
> France. (i.e. 450yrs ago)
>
> I intend to plant syrah or cabernet sauv. also grafted on american
> stock.

If you remove the European fruit wood, and "T-bud" graft onto the stump,
you'll save yourself 2 to 3 years before you can get a crop out.

Knights from France? Chevalier du Cep? Where the hell are you? In a
viticultural region 3 to 5 I hope. These puppies don't like snow or 100F
temps.
--
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.

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http://www.democracynow.org/2010/1/19/headlines

No rest is required especially when you consider the soil isn't
"working" when you grow a plant.


On Jan 30, 4:50*am, fishziblu > wrote:
> I am just about to buy a parcel of land planted with a number of
> untrained table grape vines. I want to replant part
> of the land with wine grapes trained on trellises. I was made aware
> that if I remove the old vines I would need to
> let the soil rest before replanting can occur.
>
> Should I let it rest and how long should I wait before replanting with
> the new?
>
> Cheers

On Jan 30, 3:50*am, fishziblu > wrote:
> I am just about to buy a parcel of land planted with a number of
> untrained table grape vines. I want to replant part
> of the land with wine grapes trained on trellises. I was made aware
> that if I remove the old vines I would need to
> let the soil rest before replanting can occur.
>
> Should I let it rest and how long should I wait before replanting with
> the new?
>
> Cheers


It is not necessarily letting the soil "rest", but replanted vines
*can* suffer lack of vigor if they aren't a strong rooted type. This
is believed to be due to soil pathogens (nematodes, fungus, etc.). At
least one year is recommended. You may or may not see any problems if
you immediately replant. A vigorous variety or rootstock will have
less risk.

Stephen

DON'T do it, just plow it all under and plant walnut trees or olive
trees. Grapes are too much trouble when you can buy them very cheap

fishziblu wrote:

> I am just about to buy a parcel of land planted with a number of
> untrained table grape vines. I want to replant part
> of the land with wine grapes trained on trellises. I was made aware
> that if I remove the old vines I would need to
> let the soil rest before replanting can occur.
>
> Should I let it rest and how long should I wait before replanting with
> the new?
>
> Cheers
I know that some say let it rest but I really don't know if it is necessary.
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