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When using a pH meter, do you stir the probe in your liquid, or do you hold it
still? Dumb question, but thanks. Ken |
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Ken Anderson wrote:
> When using a pH meter, do you stir the probe in your liquid, or do you hold it > still? Dumb question, but thanks. > Ken > > Being the delicate probe a pH probe is, I prefer not to stir with it. I just swish my liquid in my beaker and gently lower the probe into it. Regards, Gene |
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"gene" > wrote in message
.. . > Ken Anderson wrote: > > When using a pH meter, do you stir the probe in your liquid, or do you hold it > > still? Dumb question, but thanks. > > Ken > > > > > Being the delicate probe a pH probe is, I prefer not to stir with it. > I just swish my liquid in my beaker and gently lower the probe into it. > > Regards, > Gene > > Thank you Gene. I am trying to figure out why I got 3 different readings in a row. Tomato sauce, actually. I calibrated, tested. Recalibrated, tested. Recalibrated, tested. Even if my pH 4 and pH 7 fluids were old, I'd expect repeatability. Two place resolution, +/- .04 accuracy. I got 4.41, 4.16, and 4.30. Ken |
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![]() "Ken Anderson" > wrote in message ... > I am trying to figure out why I got 3 different readings in a > row. Tomato sauce, actually. I calibrated, tested. Recalibrated, tested. > Recalibrated, tested. Even if my pH 4 and pH 7 fluids were old, I'd expect > repeatability. Two place resolution, +/- .04 accuracy. I got 4.41, 4.16, and > 4.30. Personally, I'm from the "stir gently, wait, stir again and wait until the reading stabilizes" school. I do this when running standards too. It takes time for the reading to settle to a final value. Also, the time required to stabilize will lengthen with age of the probe. Supposedly, contact lens enzyme cleaner helps restore/clean dirty probes. BTW, I had trouble with flaky connections between the probe and body of my Hanna Piccolo, so I soldered jumper wires between the sets of contacts. That did the trick. Tom S |
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Ken Anderson wrote:
> "gene" > wrote in message > .. . > >>Ken Anderson wrote: >> >>>When using a pH meter, do you stir the probe in your liquid, or do you > > hold it > >>>still? Dumb question, but thanks. >>>Ken >>> >>> >> >>Being the delicate probe a pH probe is, I prefer not to stir with it. >>I just swish my liquid in my beaker and gently lower the probe into it. >> >>Regards, >>Gene >> >> > > Thank you Gene. I am trying to figure out why I got 3 different readings in a > row. Tomato sauce, actually. I calibrated, tested. Recalibrated, tested. > Recalibrated, tested. Even if my pH 4 and pH 7 fluids were old, I'd expect > repeatability. Two place resolution, +/- .04 accuracy. I got 4.41, 4.16, and > 4.30. > Ken > > Hmmm.... could the solids in the tomato sauce have gummed up the pH sensor electrode so that it is not being flushed adequately between readings? I wouldn't expect recalibration to get you back to the start if there's a barrier to solution transport across a tomato solids layer. You have an interesting dilemma. Any gurus out there to help? Gene |
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Do you use probe cleaning fluid to clean the probe once in a while. I find
that that will help consistence. Ray "gene" > wrote in message m... > Ken Anderson wrote: >> "gene" > wrote in message >> .. . >> >>>Ken Anderson wrote: >>> >>>>When using a pH meter, do you stir the probe in your liquid, or do you >> >> hold it >> >>>>still? Dumb question, but thanks. >>>>Ken >>>> >>>> >>> >>>Being the delicate probe a pH probe is, I prefer not to stir with it. >>>I just swish my liquid in my beaker and gently lower the probe into it. >>> >>>Regards, >>>Gene >>> >>> >> >> Thank you Gene. I am trying to figure out why I got 3 different readings >> in a >> row. Tomato sauce, actually. I calibrated, tested. Recalibrated, >> tested. >> Recalibrated, tested. Even if my pH 4 and pH 7 fluids were old, I'd >> expect >> repeatability. Two place resolution, +/- .04 accuracy. I got 4.41, 4.16, >> and >> 4.30. >> Ken >> >> > Hmmm.... could the solids in the tomato sauce have gummed up the pH sensor > electrode so that it is not being flushed adequately between readings? > I wouldn't expect recalibration to get you back to the start if there's a > barrier to solution transport across a tomato solids layer. > You have an interesting dilemma. Any gurus out there to help? > Gene |
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"Ray Calvert" > wrote in message
... > Do you use probe cleaning fluid to clean the probe once in a while. I find > that that will help consistence. > > I have only used it once, which was last season. I stored the probe in the little tip it came in, submersed in whatever solution that is (KNO3?). The instructions say to soak it in 7 pH calibration fluid for several minutes to freshen it up. I didn't do that but will next time. I did use distilled water for my probe rinsing. In truth, I must admit that the calibration solutions I used this year, were left over from LAST year, stored in little Mason jars. I have "fresh" packets of 4.0 and 7.0 from last year. I'll at least break those out and try again. Ken |
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![]() "Ken Anderson" > wrote in message ... > I am trying to figure out why I got 3 different readings in a > row. Tomato sauce, actually. I calibrated, tested. Recalibrated, tested. > Recalibrated, tested. Even if my pH 4 and pH 7 fluids were old, I'd expect > repeatability. Two place resolution, +/- .04 accuracy. I got 4.41, 4.16, and > 4.30. Personally, I'm from the "stir gently, wait, stir again and wait until the reading stabilizes" school. I do this when running standards too. It takes time for the reading to settle to a final value. Also, the time required to stabilize will lengthen with age of the probe. Supposedly, contact lens enzyme cleaner helps restore/clean dirty probes. BTW, I had trouble with flaky connections between the probe and body of my Hanna Piccolo, so I soldered jumper wires between the sets of contacts. That did the trick. Tom S |
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"gene" > wrote in message
.. . > Ken Anderson wrote: > > When using a pH meter, do you stir the probe in your liquid, or do you hold it > > still? Dumb question, but thanks. > > Ken > > > > > Being the delicate probe a pH probe is, I prefer not to stir with it. > I just swish my liquid in my beaker and gently lower the probe into it. > > Regards, > Gene > > Thank you Gene. I am trying to figure out why I got 3 different readings in a row. Tomato sauce, actually. I calibrated, tested. Recalibrated, tested. Recalibrated, tested. Even if my pH 4 and pH 7 fluids were old, I'd expect repeatability. Two place resolution, +/- .04 accuracy. I got 4.41, 4.16, and 4.30. Ken |
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Ken Anderson wrote:
> When using a pH meter, do you stir the probe in your liquid, or do you hold it > still? Dumb question, but thanks. > Ken > > Being the delicate probe a pH probe is, I prefer not to stir with it. I just swish my liquid in my beaker and gently lower the probe into it. Regards, Gene |
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