On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 12:02:46 +0200, Michael Pronay >
wrote:

>Michael Pronay > wrote:
>
>> Why should a plain AOC "Bordeaux" wine not be able to mention
>> "Merlot" or "Sauvignon Blanc"?
>
>Btw, I just found a label reading "Bordeaux Sauvignon":
>
><http://www.chateau-
>ziltener.com/z_weine/angebot.php?show=show_next&id=107&lang=de>
>
>or
>
><http://snipurl.com/gw87>
>
>In theory, this should be illegal?

And if you click the "Next" link on that URL you will see an illegally
labelled Burg. These are not uncommon in the UK.
--
Steve Slatcher
http://pobox.com/~steve.slatcher

Steve Slatcher > wrote in
:

> On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 12:02:46 +0200, Michael Pronay >
> wrote:
>
>>Michael Pronay > wrote:
>>
>>> Why should a plain AOC "Bordeaux" wine not be able to mention
>>> "Merlot" or "Sauvignon Blanc"?
>>
>>Btw, I just found a label reading "Bordeaux Sauvignon":
>>
>><http://www.chateau-
>>ziltener.com/z_weine/angebot.php?show=show_next&id=107&lang=de>
>>
>>or
>>
>><http://snipurl.com/gw87>
>>
>>In theory, this should be illegal?
>
> And if you click the "Next" link on that URL you will see an illegally
> labelled Burg. These are not uncommon in the UK.

Hi, I have a question, then. Is this "legal"?

http://www.louisjadot.com/vins/pinot_uk.html

I have to say I don't remember what this is like, it's been a while since
I tasted it...

enoavidh > wrote in
. 40:



>
> Hi, I have a question, then. Is this "legal"?
>
> http://www.louisjadot.com/vins/pinot_uk.html
>
> I have to say I don't remember what this is like, it's been a while
> since I tasted it...
>
IIRC a rather mediocre PN for the price. the similarly labeled Chardonnay
is fairly oaky as opposed to their non varietal labeled white Burg which is
superior at a slightly lower price. It seems that varietal also describes a
style of manufacture in some peoples minds. if it is Chard it must be oaky,
if Burgundy it is allowed a certain native elegance.


--
Joseph Coulter
Cruises and Vacations
http://www.josephcoulter.com/

jcoulter > wrote in
:

> IIRC a rather mediocre PN for the price. the similarly labeled
> Chardonnay is fairly oaky as opposed to their non varietal labeled
> white Burg which is superior at a slightly lower price. It seems that
> varietal also describes a style of manufacture in some peoples minds.
> if it is Chard it must be oaky, if Burgundy it is allowed a certain
> native elegance.
>
>


Yeah, I was thinking it wasn't particularly memorable. Either of them. I
think I paid $13.99US in Pennsylvania for the PN, and it looks like the
Chardonnay is $12.99; the Macon Villages is $10.99 here and I can get it at
the tiny store up the street, so it's okay for everyday use

enoavidh > wrote in
. 40:



>
> Yeah, I was thinking it wasn't particularly memorable. Either of
> them. I think I paid $13.99US in Pennsylvania for the PN, and it
> looks like the Chardonnay is $12.99; the Macon Villages is $10.99 here
> and I can get it at the tiny store up the street, so it's okay for
> everyday use
It is the Macon that I prefer! but since I am currently working on a supply
of La Vignee 2001 at @ $5 a bottle . . .everyay expectations are pretty
high (the 2003 is available at my local supermarket for $14.99)


--
Joseph Coulter
Cruises and Vacations
http://www.josephcoulter.com/

"jcoulter" in :
> enoavidh > wrote in
> . 40:
>>
>> Hi, I have a question, then. Is this "legal"?
>>
>> http://www.louisjadot.com/vins/pinot_uk.html

That's a widely known label (available throughout the US and elsewhere, and
likely is some people's introduction to red Burgundy).

BTW it varies a lot with the vintage, as wines sometimes do. The 1996
available in the US was relatively stunning: weight and balance and
minerality like a village AC wine or better, and as I expected it matured
well in a few years. (At USD $12 or so.) At least one subsequent vintage
has been very good also.


These atypical labelings for export market still reflect much improvement
over the scandal in (?) 1976 when some cheap bulk red wine was found at
dockside in France (as I recall the story), marked "can be sold as
Beaujolais in USA."

-- Max

"Max Hauser" > wrote in
:

>
> That's a widely known label (available throughout the US and
> elsewhere, and likely is some people's introduction to red Burgundy).
>
> BTW it varies a lot with the vintage, as wines sometimes do. The 1996
> available in the US was relatively stunning: weight and balance and
> minerality like a village AC wine or better, and as I expected it
> matured well in a few years. (At USD $12 or so.) At least one
> subsequent vintage has been very good also.
>
>
> These atypical labelings for export market still reflect much
> improvement over the scandal in (?) 1976 when some cheap bulk red wine
> was found at dockside in France (as I recall the story), marked "can
> be sold as Beaujolais in USA."
>

Well, I guess I was confused when I saw it on Jadot's site, on the French
side...I've certainly had the basic Bourgogne before, but I think they
have changed the label somewhat. I know the words "Pinot Noir" weren't
red before...I'll have to snoop around and see what I can find.