A question arose. Around Vienna over the past 20 years, I remember hearing
the second word of Grüner Veltliner spoken with light stress on the first
syllable -- VELTliner, in German (like the stress of modern trade name
VELcro in English). (In English phonetic spelling, the word might be
written FELT-leener.)

Recently online, some people report another pronunciation in German,
veltLINer . Possibly these pronunciations are regional, within Austria?

Could Hr. Prónay in particular comment on this? (While it seems that many
people hold opinions, I knew of Hr. Prónay as a leading Austrian food-wine
journalist for many years before he appeared on newsgroups.)

I did, of course, first check online archives of AFW and its predecessors as
wine newsgroup (rec.food.drink and net.wines). Without luck, though I
report that the first mention of Grüner Veltliner on these newsgroups
appeared 1983 and can be currently read he

http://tinyurl.com/9r3c5

Also, an excellent thread on Grüner Veltliner's origins and variations, and
other varietal names, appeared May 2000 and can be viewed currently here
(use "show options" link to see rest of the thread):

http://tinyurl.com/cyyzo

That thread includes many contributions from The Usual Suspects.


-- Max

Max Hauser wrote in :

> A question arose. Around Vienna over the past 20 years, I
> remember hearing the second word of Gr�ner Veltliner spoken with
> light stress on the first syllable -- VELTliner, in German (like
> the stress of modern trade name VELcro in English). (In
> English phonetic spelling, the word might be written
> FELT-leener.)
>
> Recently online, some people report another pronunciation in
> German, veltLINer . Possibly these pronunciations are
> regional, within Austria?

Hello Max!
I am not Michael, but as an Austrian living in Vienna for a couple
of years I may provide some qualified input:

All I hear all the time is Veltliner with emphasis on the second
syllable - English phonetic spelling: Felt-LEE-ner.
The emphasis is not too strong but it is definitly not on the first
syllable. I would definitely pronounce it like that.

Maybe things have changed from 20 years ago - I have been living
here in Vienna only for the last 16 years :-).

Regards, Robert