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Leo Bueno
 
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Default New Jersey = 5th US wine producing state


We know that California, New York, Washington and Oregon are the top 4
US wine producing states. So, which is the 5th? I was shocked to
learn that New Jersey is the 5th wine producing state in the US.

http://www.americanwineries.org/wine...se%2003-04.mht

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Leo Bueno wrote:
> We know that California, New York, Washington and Oregon are the top 4
> US wine producing states. So, which is the 5th? I was shocked to
> learn that New Jersey is the 5th wine producing state in the US.
>
> http://www.americanwineries.org/wine...se%2003-04.mht
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and i was shocked to see that Alaska produces any wine at all! Is there
anyone ever tried some alaskan wine?
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It's on the internet, so it must be accurate. :-) Yeah, I'm suspicious
of these stats. For example, I know that Hawaii produces some wine --
maybe not enough to count here, but still.... Also, I wonder what is
counted as wine. Fruit (other than grape) wines? Mead? Fortified wines?
Andy

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"Leo Bueno" > wrote in message
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>
> We know that California, New York, Washington and Oregon are the top 4
> US wine producing states. So, which is the 5th? I was shocked to
> learn that New Jersey is the 5th wine producing state in the US.
>
> http://www.americanwineries.org/wine...se%2003-04.mht


I'm suspicious of these data. I would have expected Missouri, Ohio and
Virginia to be higher. I also find zero to not be credible for Hawaii,
which has two wineries that I know of.

Tom S




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Tom S wrote:
> "Leo Bueno" > wrote in message
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>>We know that California, New York, Washington and Oregon are the top 4
>>US wine producing states. So, which is the 5th? I was shocked to
>>learn that New Jersey is the 5th wine producing state in the US.
>>
>>http://www.americanwineries.org/wine...se%2003-04.mht

>
>
> I'm suspicious of these data. I would have expected Missouri, Ohio and
> Virginia to be higher. I also find zero to not be credible for Hawaii,
> which has two wineries that I know of.
>
> Tom S
>
>


I have a hard time believing any of the data. The first three states on
the chart that don't have any wineries are Delaware, Hawaii, and Kansas.
However, looking at the organization's own membership list shows
wineries in all of those states. After this discovery, I didn't bother
checking the rest of the data.
<http://www.americanwineries.org/memberdirectory/roster.cfm>

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In article > ,
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>"Leo Bueno" > wrote in message
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>>
>> We know that California, New York, Washington and Oregon are the top 4
>> US wine producing states. So, which is the 5th? I was shocked to
>> learn that New Jersey is the 5th wine producing state in the US.
>>
>>
http://www.americanwineries.org/wine...0Release%2003-
04.m
>ht
>
>I'm suspicious of these data. I would have expected Missouri, Ohio and
>Virginia to be higher. I also find zero to not be credible for Hawaii,
>which has two wineries that I know of.
>
>Tom S


Yes Tom, the last time that I checked (or toured) there was Tedeschi Vineyards
(Maui's Winery at Ulupalakua Ranch) and Volcano Winery on Hawai'i. While I
have only done a quick tasting at Tedeschi, I can say that Volcano does a nice
job with the Symphony grape, as well as some locally interesting "fruit-based"
wines. Theirs is one of the better examples of Symphony that I've tasted.
While the products of both are more in the "curiosity" arena, they are serious
about what they do. When I last toured Volcano, Randall Grahm was there on a
tasting vacation. Even back then (~1996) he was espousing Stelvin-type
closuress.

Hunt

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Tedeschi makes a pineapple wine and assorted others. At one time, I bought
in a palette(56 cases) of it for Maryland. It cost about $10 to get to
Grozingers or some other West Coast warehouse. We sold through the first
shipment to a handful of stores. No reorders. The other wines they sent as
samples were forgettable.

One enterprising store had a sign up that suggested that it was a great wine
to drink with Maui Wowie. The store was located near a concert venue and
some roadie came in and wanted 5 cases, which I hand delivered to the store.
I won't say whether I inhaled or not the little gift the roadie gave me and
the store's wine guy, but I remember doing serious damage to the store's
deli department.......

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"Hunt" > wrote in message
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> In article > ,
> says...
> >
> >
> >"Leo Bueno" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >>
> >> We know that California, New York, Washington and Oregon are the top 4
> >> US wine producing states. So, which is the 5th? I was shocked to
> >> learn that New Jersey is the 5th wine producing state in the US.
> >>
> >>

http://www.americanwineries.org/wine...0Release%2003-
> 04.m
> >ht
> >
> >I'm suspicious of these data. I would have expected Missouri, Ohio and
> >Virginia to be higher. I also find zero to not be credible for Hawaii,
> >which has two wineries that I know of.
> >
> >Tom S

>
> Yes Tom, the last time that I checked (or toured) there was Tedeschi

Vineyards
> (Maui's Winery at Ulupalakua Ranch) and Volcano Winery on Hawai'i. While I
> have only done a quick tasting at Tedeschi, I can say that Volcano does a

nice
> job with the Symphony grape, as well as some locally interesting

"fruit-based"
> wines. Theirs is one of the better examples of Symphony that I've tasted.
> While the products of both are more in the "curiosity" arena, they are

serious
> about what they do. When I last toured Volcano, Randall Grahm was there on

a
> tasting vacation. Even back then (~1996) he was espousing Stelvin-type
> closuress.
>
> Hunt
>



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Leo Bueno wrote:
> We know that California, New York, Washington and Oregon are the top

4
> US wine producing states. So, which is the 5th? I was shocked to
> learn that New Jersey is the 5th wine producing state in the US.
>
>

http://www.americanwineries.org/wine...se%2003-04.mht
>
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> Visit the MIAMI WINE TASTERS group at
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It's possible that New Jersey is fifth, but on the Fine Living Network
show, "Simply Wine", host Andrea Immer once claimed that Texas is
actually the fifth largest.

Dan-O

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Leo Bueno wrote:
> We know that California, New York, Washington and Oregon are the top

4
> US wine producing states. So, which is the 5th? I was shocked to
> learn that New Jersey is the 5th wine producing state in the US.
>
>

http://www.americanwineries.org/wine...se%2003-04.mht
>
> --
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> Do you like wine? Do you live in South Florida?
> Visit the MIAMI WINE TASTERS group at
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/miamiWINE
> =================================================


It's possible that New Jersey is fifth, but on the Fine Living Network
show, "Simply Wine", host Andrea Immer once claimed that Texas is
actually the fifth largest.

Dan-O



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My question is: does wine producing mean making of the wine and not
necessarily growing of the grapes? If that is the meaning, sure NJ may
be the 5th biggest wine making state, the tax breaks may be cheaper to
grow it in NY or VA and make it in NJ. This would not be the first
industry to play the tax break game ;-)

I have heard Missouri grows a lot of grapes (was ranked #4 or 5 in wine
grapes grown about 2 or 3 years back) but it is turned into wine in the
surrounding states.

I guess until we can find a reliable source, it is very debatable.

J~
( In Oregon #3 on list for now)

Leo Bueno wrote:
> We know that California, New York, Washington and Oregon are the top 4
> US wine producing states. So, which is the 5th? I was shocked to
> learn that New Jersey is the 5th wine producing state in the US.
>
> http://www.americanwineries.org/wine...se%2003-04.mht
>
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