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Pichon Lalande
Notes from a Pichon Lalande dinner.
Very interesting evening. I sat across the table from Gildas d’Ollone, the general director of the excellent second growth Pauillac, Pichon Lalande. He is also the nephew of May de Lencquesaing, the owner. He explained that the property was founded in 1689 and that it encompassed the area that includes Pichon Baron today. The properties were split in 1840 among 5 children, with the boys inheriting Pichon Baron and the girls, Pichon Lalande. We shared a wide ranging conversation about many wine and non-wine subjects. He is an excellent ambassador for the chateau. we started with a champagne on its own followed by another one with a course of squid stuffed with lobster, in a lobster brandy sauce. Moutardier Champagne Brut Rose – nice pink colour, a nose that included peach, crisp and clean. 80% pinot meunier, 20% chardonnay. Boizel Champagne Brut Reserve - 30 % Chardonnay, 55 % Pinot Noir and 15 % Pinot Meunier. A nice clean citrus nose, clean entry, excellent acidity and crisp finish. Undoubtedly the better bubbly with the food. Pichon bought Ch. Bernadotte a cru bourgeois in 1997 and carried out a badly needed restoration of the property in the ensuing years. The next course was accompanied by wines from that property. The course was a wild mushroom terrine. 2001 Bernadotte – good medium colour, a fair bit of vanilla in this nose, mellow and smooth in the mouth with soft tannins. A nice bourgeois. 2005 Bernadotte – less vanilla and more fruit on this nose, almost perfumed. Less bright on the palate, in fact almost a bit dull in comparison with lots of softening tannins. It needs time, which will hopefully bring it to life, but right now the 2001 drank much better. The next course was a duck confit as we got into the grand vin. 1983 Pichon Lalande – many of the wines from this vintage are now going into decline, but the top ones are still in good shape with time to go. This was one of the best wine of the vintage, handily surpassing all of the first growths except Margaux. You get black currant and a hint of cedar in the nose, a sweet entry and long smooth journey over the palate and a nice long finish. No rush on this one. 1985 Pichon Lalande – another lovely nose with a bit more vanilla, but in the mouth, lower tannin and acidity. Very nice, but needs drinking. Do not hold. Served as a mystery wine: 1975 Pichon Lalande – browning at the edges, and with nice garnet notes deep in the wine, this is now mature and has softened enough to enjoy, while retaining sufficient fruit to make it interesting. Leather and spice in the nose, the tannins still lurking, and decent acidity. Now a pleasant 1975. Do not hold. With lamb chops: 2003 Pichon Lalande – an immediate impression of prune in this nose, very ripe, and a big sweet but well balanced wine with a certain earthy character. Not at this point an elegant wine, this should pick up some polish with a few more years in bottle. 2004 Pichon Lalande – a pleasant dark fruit nose with a hint of green and also of cocoa and a fair bit of tannin. Needs time to really evaluate – not drinking as well as the 2003 at this point. Another mystery wine: 1986 Pichon Lalande – deep colour, medium to full weight, good acidity, an example of this firm vintage that I’d give more time, although I admit that it drinks pretty well now despite still significant tannin. With cheese: 2007 Pichon Lalande – this one was quite dark with a big dusty earthy currant nose, lots of tannin and a slightly astringent note in the finish. needs time! 2006 Reserve de la Comtesse – I should explain that some chateau create second wines from young vines replanted in areas of their vineyards but too young to be used in the grand vin. This isn’t the case with Pichon – the grapes from the second wine come off the same vines as the grand vin does, but they are what is left after the blend for the Pichon Lalande has been finalized. Thus if it was a heavy cabernet vintage for the grand vin, the second wine will be the opposite, with more merlot. In this particular vintage, all the petit verdot and a lot of cab franc went into this and I think that was all to the good in terms of the aromatics, which showed a quite delightful spice/herbal aspect. Fairly tannin and with very good fruit levels, this warrants aging a decade or so to see what happens. Very nice. With dessert: 2003 Ch. d’Armajan des Ormes – I knew nothing of this Sauternes house with the rococo label, but it turned out quite well. Decent shot of botrytis in the rather sweet nose, light lemon in colour, sweet in the mouth but reasonably well balanced a decent serviceable inexpensive wine. great event, and a lot of very good wines. |
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On Oct 30, 7:45*pm, "Bill S." > wrote:
> Notes from a Pichon Lalande dinner. > > Very interesting evening. *I sat across the table from Gildas > d’Ollone, the general director of the excellent second growth > Pauillac, Pichon Lalande. He is also the nephew of May de > Lencquesaing, the owner. * He explained that the property was founded > in 1689 and that it encompassed the area that includes Pichon Baron > today. The properties were split in 1840 among 5 children, with the > boys inheriting Pichon Baron and the girls, Pichon Lalande. *We shared > a wide ranging conversation about many wine and non-wine subjects. He > is an excellent ambassador for the chateau. > > we started with a champagne on its own followed by another one with a > course of squid stuffed with lobster, in a lobster brandy sauce. > > Moutardier Champagne Brut Rose – nice pink colour, a nose that > included peach, crisp and clean. *80% pinot meunier, 20% chardonnay. > > Boizel Champagne Brut Reserve - *30 % Chardonnay, 55 % Pinot Noir and > 15 % Pinot Meunier. *A nice clean citrus nose, clean entry, excellent > acidity and crisp finish. *Undoubtedly the better bubbly with the > food. > > Pichon bought Ch. Bernadotte a cru bourgeois in 1997 and carried out a > badly needed restoration of the property in the ensuing years. *The > next course was accompanied by wines from that property. * The course > was a wild mushroom terrine. > > 2001 Bernadotte – good medium colour, a fair bit of vanilla in this > nose, mellow and smooth in the mouth with soft tannins. A nice > bourgeois. > > 2005 Bernadotte – less vanilla and more fruit on this nose, almost > perfumed. Less bright on the palate, in fact almost a bit dull in > comparison with lots of softening tannins. It needs time, which will > hopefully bring it to life, but right now the 2001 drank much better. > > The next course was a duck confit as we got into the grand vin. > > 1983 Pichon Lalande – many of the wines from this vintage are now > going into decline, but the top ones are still in good shape with time > to go. This was one of *the best wine of the vintage, handily > surpassing all of the first growths except Margaux. *You get black > currant and a hint of cedar in the nose, a sweet entry and long smooth > journey over the palate and a nice long finish. No rush on this one. > > 1985 Pichon Lalande – another lovely nose with a bit more vanilla, but > in the mouth, lower tannin and acidity. Very nice, but needs drinking. > Do not hold. > > Served as a mystery wine: > > 1975 Pichon Lalande – browning at the edges, and with nice garnet > notes deep in the wine, this is now mature and has softened enough to > enjoy, while retaining sufficient fruit to make it interesting. > Leather and spice in the nose, the tannins still lurking, and decent > acidity. *Now a pleasant 1975. Do not hold. > > With lamb chops: > > 2003 Pichon Lalande – an immediate impression of prune in this nose, > very ripe, and a big sweet but well balanced wine with a certain > earthy character. Not at this point an elegant wine, this should pick > up some polish with a few more years in bottle. > > 2004 Pichon Lalande – a pleasant dark fruit nose with a hint of green > and also of cocoa and a fair bit of tannin. Needs time to really > evaluate – not drinking as well as the 2003 at this point. > > Another mystery wine: > > 1986 Pichon Lalande – deep colour, medium to full weight, good > acidity, an example of this firm vintage that I’d give more time, > although I admit that it drinks pretty well now despite still > significant tannin. > With cheese: > > 2007 Pichon Lalande – this one was quite dark with a big dusty earthy > currant nose, lots of tannin and a slightly astringent note in the > finish. needs time! > > 2006 Reserve de la Comtesse – I should explain that some chateau > create second wines from young vines replanted in areas of their > vineyards but too young to be used in the grand vin. This isn’t the > case with Pichon – the grapes from the second wine come off the same > vines as the grand vin does, but they are what is left after the blend > for the Pichon Lalande has been finalized. Thus if it was a heavy > cabernet vintage for the grand vin, the second wine will be the > opposite, with more merlot. *In this particular vintage, all the petit > verdot and a lot of cab franc went into this and I think that was all > to the good in terms of the aromatics, which showed a quite delightful > spice/herbal aspect. Fairly tannin and with very good fruit levels, > this warrants aging a decade or so to see what happens. Very nice. > > With dessert: > > 2003 Ch. d’Armajan des Ormes – I knew nothing of this Sauternes house > with the rococo label, but it turned out quite well. *Decent shot of > botrytis in the rather sweet nose, light lemon in colour, sweet in the > mouth but reasonably well balanced a decent serviceable inexpensive > wine. > > great event, and a lot of very good wines. Wonderful notes sounds like an exceptional evening. I have a number of Pichon Lalande's from '82 through '00 that I skhould probably start drinkng. Thanks for the reminder. I've visited the Chateau a number of times over theyears...nice place. I thought it was owned by an Insurance conglomerate. |
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On Nov 1, 9:42*am, "Bi!!" > wrote:
Pichon Lalande's from '82 through '00 that I skhould probably start > drinkng. *Thanks for the reminder. *I've visited the Chateau a number > of times over theyears...nice place. *I thought it was owned by an > Insurance conglomerate. It's Pichon Baron that is owned by AXA. Pichon Lalande was recently purchased by family that owns Roederer Champagne, I believe Nice notes Bill S! |
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On Nov 1, 11:51*am, DaleW > wrote:
> On Nov 1, 9:42*am, "Bi!!" > wrote: > Pichon Lalande's from '82 through '00 that I skhould probably start > > > drinkng. *Thanks for the reminder. *I've visited the Chateau a number > > of times over theyears...nice place. *I thought it was owned by an > > Insurance conglomerate. > > It's Pichon Baron that is owned by AXA. Pichon Lalande was recently > purchased by family that owns Roederer Champagne, I believe > Nice notes Bill S! Right, not sure where my head is these days. I was badly injured on labor day in a horseback accident and I'm just now getting on my feet and off of the pain meds, etc. so if i make silly errors it's due to the meds. |
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On 10/31/2010 01:45 AM, Bill S. wrote:
> 2005 Bernadotte – less vanilla and more fruit on this nose, almost > perfumed. Less bright on the palate, in fact almost a bit dull in > comparison with lots of softening tannins. It needs time, which will > hopefully bring it to life, but right now the 2001 drank much better. > We drank this only a couple of days ago. It was very closed, quite tight in the mouth even with air. Hopefully will come around in a few years, indeed. Still planning the trip to Chateauneuf, Bill? -E |
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> Right, not sure where my head is these days. *I was badly injured on
> labor day in a horseback accident and I'm just now getting on my feet > and off of the pain meds, etc. so if i make silly errors it's due to > the meds. No worries, I make worse errors than that all of the time, and I have no excuses! Hope your recovery continues! |
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On Nov 1, 9:31*pm, DaleW > wrote:
> > Right, not sure where my head is these days. *I was badly injured on > > labor day in a horseback accident and I'm just now getting on my feet > > and off of the pain meds, etc. so if i make silly errors it's due to > > the meds. > > No worries, I make worse errors than that all of the time, and I have > no excuses! Hope your recovery continues! Slowly. Four broken ribs, torn rib cartlidge, three compression fractures T-4,5,6, cracked pelvis, dislocated shoulder with torn rotator cuff, concussion, torn ankle ligaments. Very badly bruised ego. |
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On 11/02/2010 01:46 PM, Bi!! wrote:
> On Nov 1, 9:31 pm, DaleW > wrote: >>> Right, not sure where my head is these days. I was badly injured on >>> labor day in a horseback accident and I'm just now getting on my feet >>> and off of the pain meds, etc. so if i make silly errors it's due to >>> the meds. >> >> No worries, I make worse errors than that all of the time, and I have >> no excuses! Hope your recovery continues! > > Slowly. Four broken ribs, torn rib cartlidge, three compression > fractures T-4,5,6, cracked pelvis, dislocated shoulder with torn > rotator cuff, concussion, torn ankle ligaments. Very badly bruised > ego. Double ouch. Best wishes, Bill. -E |
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Emery Davis wrote:
>> Slowly. Four broken ribs, torn rib cartlidge, three >> compression fractures T-4,5,6, cracked pelvis, dislocated >> shoulder with torn rotator cuff, concussion, torn ankle >> ligaments. Very badly bruised ego. > Double ouch. Best wishes, Bill. +1 M. |
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Bi!! wrote:
> Slowly. Four broken ribs, torn rib cartlidge, three compression > fractures T-4,5,6, cracked pelvis, dislocated shoulder with torn > rotator cuff, concussion, torn ankle ligaments. Very badly bruised > ego. Ouch!! Damn, Bill, that sounds awful and I wish you a speedy recovery. Do keep in mind the outstanding anti-inflammatory properties of red wine .... and much easier on the stomach than Aleve! ;-) Mark Lipton |
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On Nov 2, 11:52*pm, Mark Lipton > wrote:
> Bi!! wrote: > > Slowly. *Four broken ribs, torn rib cartlidge, three compression > > fractures T-4,5,6, cracked pelvis, dislocated shoulder with torn > > rotator cuff, concussion, torn ankle ligaments. *Very badly bruised > > ego. > > Ouch!! Damn, Bill, that sounds awful and I wish you a speedy recovery. > Do keep in mind the outstanding anti-inflammatory properties of red wine > ... and much easier on the stomach than Aleve! ;-) > > Mark Lipton Thanks to all for your well wishes. I am getting better...actually rode again this past weekend and was able to walk 3 miles today for the first time since the accident. I was gifted a "get well" gift by a dear friend of a bottle of 2007 O. Leflaive Batard Montrachet that will be drank tonight with my wifes lobster mac and cheese. Report to follow. |
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