This is a screwcap wine survey I created for my thesis work. It will
only take 5-10 minutes.

Take Survey He

http://tinyurl.com/winesurvey


Thanks again!

On 2009-03-21 15:39:13 -0700, said:

> This is a screwcap wine survey I created for my thesis work. It will
> only take 5-10 minutes.
> Take Survey He
> http://tinyurl.com/winesurvey
> Thanks again!

Lauren: your survey was very difficult. You asked what the price of
the wines I bought "last month." Last month was not typical. No month
is typical. When a good European vintage is being shipped, I buy high
priced wines. I am always looking for the great under $10 everyday
wine during other months. While I said my primary pusher was a
specialty shop, the grocery stores here on the West coast of the US
carry some great QPR wines, and most of the higher priced wines I get
through the internet, though I buy directly from the winery for some
favorites. I have no prejudice regarding the stelvin cap. If the
guest in your scenario brought a bottle of Annie Green Springs, I would
have one opinion, but I assumed he/she brought something from Randall
Grahm. (near Cal Poly)

Jim

"Lauren Jeter" wrote ....
>
> This is a screwcap wine survey I created for my thesis work.

Hi Lauren

I completed your survey - I am not sure if my response will be of any use.

You see, I am in New Zealand (you may not be aware that this forum is one of
the most international in stature - and you never stated that you required
participation from US residents only!)

In this country, over 80% of wine produced is sold under screwcap, and the
average consumer is now "enlightened" enough to have abandoned any prejudice
against screwcaps, and many hold suspicions of natural cork.

Good luck with the thesis.

st.helier

"Lauren Jeter" wrote ....
>
> This is a screwcap wine survey I created for my thesis work.

Hi Lauren

I completed your survey - I am not sure if my response will be of any use.

You see, I am in New Zealand (you may not be aware that this forum is one of
the most international in stature - and you never stated that you required
participation from US residents only!)

In this country, over 80% of wine produced is sold under screwcap, and the
average consumer is now "enlightened" enough to have abandoned any prejudice
against screwcaps, and many hold suspicions of natural cork.

Good luck with the thesis.

st.helier

On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:39:13 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

>This is a screwcap wine survey I created for my thesis work. It will
>only take 5-10 minutes.
>
>Take Survey He
>
>http://tinyurl.com/winesurvey
>
>
>Thanks again!

I would agree with St Helier, there is a possible difference in
perception between NZ in his case and UK in my case and the US
regarding screwcaps. They are common over here on wines of all price
points and people who appreciate wine have no problems with them.

It was the closing weekend of the Six Nations rugby competition over
here in the UK - the equivalent I suppose of Superbowl day. The wines
that my friends and I drank were

Santenay Charmes 2006 (Roger Belland) : B+/A
Obvious infanticide and quite tannic for a PN - not unpleasantly so,
just enough for the wine to be a bit tight. Qute delicate and leafy
rather than fruit driven though some pleasant red berry fruit was
there. Needs another 2-3 years at least.

Schroeder Estate Merlot 2008 : B+
Even more obvious infanticide for this unoaked Merlot made in
Patagonia by Germans. Very fruit driven but somehow less in your face
than a Merlot dominated Bordeaux produced in the "international"
style. Probably not a keeper but a good glugger for the next 3 years
or so.

Fiefs de Lagrange 2001: A
Remarkably damsony and this good if slightly fuzzy fruit lasted well
in the glass. Beautifully soft and integrated. Probably now at its
peak.

Les Tourelles de Longueville 2004 : A
Lighter, tighter, "drier" more cedary and more structured than the
Fiefs. This impression increased by it having only come out of the
"cellar" yesterday afternoon, so it was a bit colder. Once a bit
warmer showed more focus than the Fiefs with blackcurranty fruit

Veuve Cliquot NV (when the Irish won)

Which of the reds came in screwcap?

James

Lauren,

being a Phd myself, I know how difficult is to get responses in a survey, I
followed it.

Best of lucks,

s.

wrote in news:8c45f1e2-bb73-4564-815d-7a5c6d071be8
@d25g2000prn.googlegroups.com:

> This is a screwcap wine survey I created for my thesis work. It will
> only take 5-10 minutes.
>
> Take Survey He
>
> http://tinyurl.com/winesurvey
>
>
> Thanks again!

"st.helier" > wrote:

>> This is a screwcap wine survey I created for my thesis work.

> I completed your survey - I am not sure if my response will be
> of any use.

So did I.

> You see, I am in New Zealand (you may not be aware that this
> forum is one of the most international in stature - and you
> never stated that you required participation from US residents
> only!)

Same for me, I am in Austria, I am a full-time wine-writer, and
I was the first to publish a pro-screw-cap article back in 2003.
Meanwhile Austria is the European champion with a screwcap market
share well over 70%, second on the planet only to New Zealand.

My last tasting (Austrian whites and rosés 2008, maximum alcohol
12% according to label), over 300 wines, showed a stunning 94%
figure for screwcaps.

M.

In article >, Michael Pronay
> writes
>"st.helier" > wrote:
>
>>> This is a screwcap wine survey I created for my thesis work.
>
>> I completed your survey - I am not sure if my response will be
>> of any use.
>
>So did I.
>
>> You see, I am in New Zealand (you may not be aware that this
>> forum is one of the most international in stature - and you
>> never stated that you required participation from US residents
>> only!)
>
>Same for me, I am in Austria, I am a full-time wine-writer, and
>I was the first to publish a pro-screw-cap article back in 2003.
>Meanwhile Austria is the European champion with a screwcap market
>share well over 70%, second on the planet only to New Zealand.
>
>My last tasting (Austrian whites and rosés 2008, maximum alcohol
>12% according to label), over 300 wines, showed a stunning 94%
>figure for screwcaps.
>
>M.

I agree with the others that screw-caps are too normal to have general
opinions about.
For many of the questions, it is not possible to answer 'it is
irrelevant', but that would be my answer to all those about what is
appropriate or my opinion of people who bring screw-caps.

Sheila

On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 07:51:44 +0000, James Dempster
> wrote:


>Which of the reds came in screwcap?

That would sure be my question. Austria and New Zealand are renowned
for their whites, which tend to be consumed early on. Same with reds
designed to be consumed young. So I can see where screwcaps might not
be an issue. But long-lived reds?

Jef

James Dempster > wrote:

> Santenay Charmes 2006 (Roger Belland) : B+/A
> ...
> Schroeder Estate Merlot 2008 : B+
> ...
> Fiefs de Lagrange 2001: A
> ...
> Les Tourelles de Longueville 2004 : A
> ...
>
> Which of the reds came in screwcap?

That was an easy one: Tourelles de Longueville.

That's the second wine of Pichon Baron. (I won't follow
suit and call it "Pichon Longueville" as they themselves
do.) Quite apparently the screwcapped version not only
made it to the British market, but also to Austria, since
I have such a bottle here in the rack.

The screwcap brand, btw, is "STELVIN® Lux+". "Lux" stands
for the inside screw thread (so from the outside it looks
like a normal capsule, at least to those not familiar with
it). The "+" stands for an embossing on top.

M.

On Mar 22, 3:51*am, James Dempster > wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:39:13 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
> >This is a screwcap wine survey I created for my thesis work. *It will
> >only take 5-10 minutes.
>
> >Take Survey He
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/winesurvey
>
> >Thanks again!
>
> I would agree with St Helier, there is a possible difference in
> perception between NZ in his case and UK in my case and the US
> regarding screwcaps. They are common over here on wines of all price
> points and people who appreciate wine have no problems with them.
>
> It was the closing weekend of the Six Nations rugby competition over
> here in the UK - the equivalent I suppose of Superbowl day. The wines
> that my friends and I drank were
>
> Santenay Charmes 2006 (Roger Belland) : B+/A
> Obvious infanticide and quite tannic for a PN - not unpleasantly so,
> just enough for the wine to be a bit tight. Qute delicate and leafy
> rather than fruit driven though some pleasant red berry fruit was
> there. Needs another 2-3 years at least.
>
> Schroeder Estate Merlot 2008 : B+
> Even more obvious infanticide for this unoaked Merlot made in
> Patagonia by Germans. Very fruit driven but somehow less in your face
> than a Merlot dominated Bordeaux produced in the "international"
> style. Probably not a keeper but a good glugger for the next 3 years
> or so.
>
> Fiefs de Lagrange 2001: A
> Remarkably damsony and this good if slightly fuzzy fruit lasted well
> in the glass. Beautifully soft and integrated. Probably now at its
> peak.
>
> Les Tourelles de Longueville 2004 : A
> Lighter, tighter, "drier" more cedary and more structured than the
> Fiefs. This impression increased by it having only come out of the
> "cellar" yesterday afternoon, so it was a bit colder. Once a bit
> warmer showed more focus than the Fiefs with blackcurranty fruit
>
> Veuve Cliquot NV (when the Irish won)
>
> Which of the reds came in screwcap?
>
> James

besides screwcap issue (see Michael Pronay already answered), thanks
for the notes of the '01 Fiefs, I'll visit my bottles soon

> wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 07:51:44 +0000, James Dempster
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Which of the reds came in screwcap?
>
> That would sure be my question. Austria and New Zealand are renowned
> for their whites, which tend to be consumed early on. Same with reds
> designed to be consumed young. So I can see where screwcaps might not
> be an issue. But long-lived reds?
>
> Jef


Jury is still to decide. I have a number of NZ reds that I consider
suitable for aging. Some are coming upto 5-6 years in bottle now
but I'm not opening them yet, still plenty of older, cork closed examples
to work through.
Several wineries have done some testing and claim screwcaps are
OK for long lived wine. Like I say, still to be tested by me.

cheers greybeard.

writes:

> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 07:51:44 +0000, James Dempster
> > wrote:
>
>
> >Which of the reds came in screwcap?
>
> That would sure be my question. Austria and New Zealand are renowned
> for their whites, which tend to be consumed early on. Same with reds
> designed to be consumed young. So I can see where screwcaps might not
> be an issue. But long-lived reds?

NZ makes some pretty nice pinot noirs. Some of them are getting screw
caps. Boisset is also under screw cap, including some wines that are
meant to have some age.

Other winemakers are putting things like age-worthy cabs under
screw-caps also. I don't think anyone has been able to make a
convincing case that the wines don't age as well.

When you are ready to compare that 1961 cos under screw cap with the
same wine under a cork, let us all know!

st.helier wrote on Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:49:10 +1300:

> "Lauren Jeter" wrote ....
>>
>> This is a screwcap wine survey I created for my thesis work.

> Hi Lauren

> I completed your survey - I am not sure if my response will be
> of any use.

> You see, I am in New Zealand (you may not be aware that this
> forum is one of the most international in stature - and you
> never stated that you required participation from US residents
> only!)

> In this country, over 80% of wine produced is sold under
> screwcap, and the average consumer is now "enlightened" enough
> to have abandoned any prejudice against screwcaps, and many
> hold suspicions of natural cork.

Just for interest's sake. About 4 days ago, I opened a McWilliam's
Riesling (2006, NZ). It was a pleasant, slightly flinty, drinkable wine
without much hint of sweetness. I can't say there were many esoteric
tastes but, for reasons I won't go into, I have kept it in the fridge,
drinking perhaps one glass a day. The bottle had a screw-top seal and I
finished it tonight. It was still very drinkable and there was only a
very slight taste of "hardness" at the back of my mouth.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not