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Decent Sicilian Whites
Hi,
A friend of mine is off to Sicily on Monday, and has asked me - rather at the last minute - if I know of an whites from Sicily Well, given that there's a positive SEA of whites made from the Cattarratto grape, I was a little suprised at her question. Then I noticed the key word "decent". I've seen good things said of Bianca di Valguarnera, but can anyone - Mike T perhaps, help out with one or two others. Gill much prefers whites to reds, and I don't think she counts dessert wines amongst them. I'd be most grateful. ATB Ian |
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Ian,
not from the grape you mention, but Benanti Pietramarina is a very interesting wine made from Carricante. Loved by the Press, etc. http://tinyurl.com/cgq23v From the same grape, Benanti also makes a white called Bianco di Caselle, which is lighter, cheaper and easier to understand. Valle dell'Acate Zagra has also quite some personality, made from Insolia and Grillo in a very different part of the island. http://tinyurl.com/dkk2y2 All the best, s. |
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santiago ha scritto:
> Ian, > > not from the grape you mention, but Benanti Pietramarina is a very > interesting wine made from Carricante. Loved by the Press, etc. > > http://tinyurl.com/cgq23v > Pietramarina is among the best italian withes, non only sicilian. Also Caricanti from Gulfi is very good. Moreover Sicily is full of oaked-californian style chardonnay. Try Planeta or Donnafugata as examples. Some good withes can be found also among dessert wines. Donnafugata BenRye should be easy to find. ....and also some good Marsala are not that bad. Luk |
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Salute Luk
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:08:48 +0100, Luk > wrote: >santiago ha scritto: >> Ian, >> >> not from the grape you mention, but Benanti Pietramarina is a very >> interesting wine made from Carricante. Loved by the Press, etc. >> >> http://tinyurl.com/cgq23v [snip] >Some good withes can be found also among dessert wines. Donnafugata >BenRye should be easy to find. >...and also some good Marsala are not that bad. >Luk Luk, thank you so much for your reply. Thanks also VERY much to Santiago and Mike (not necessarily in that order). I've forwarded your replies, and I'm sure she'll find your ideas and suggestions very useful. You know, it's exchanges like this, that made me see red when I saw that trollish nonsense from zara. I apologise to all forbeing so silly as to dignifying him/her with areply. |
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On Mar 20, 6:02*am, Ian Hoare > wrote:
> Salute Luk > On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:08:48 +0100, Luk > > > wrote: > >santiago ha scritto: > >> Ian, > > >> not from the grape you mention, but Benanti Pietramarina is a very > >> interesting wine made from Carricante. Loved by the Press, etc. > > >>http://tinyurl.com/cgq23v > > [snip] > > >Some good withes can be found also among dessert wines. Donnafugata > >BenRye should be easy to find. > >...and also some good Marsala are not that bad. > >Luk > > Luk, thank you so much for your reply. Thanks also VERY much to > Santiago and Mike (not necessarily in that order). I've forwarded your > replies, and I'm sure she'll find your ideas and suggestions very > useful. > > You know, it's exchanges like this, that made me see red when I saw > that trollish nonsense from zara. I apologise to all forbeing so silly > as to dignifying *him/her with areply. Don't know a lot about Sicily, but most interesting Sicilian whites I've had have been Etna Biancos made mostly from Carricante (though I don't like as much as the best Etna Rossos). I've liked Biondi,and heard good things about the Tenuta delle Terre Nere (sp?) white. |
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> You know, it's exchanges like this, that made me see red when I saw > that trollish nonsense from ****. I apologise to all forbeing so silly > as to dignifying him/her with areply. In the words of I Ching, "No blame, no regret". You simply beat me to it. BTW, in case I haven't mentioned it already - it sure is good to have you back. Cheers Nils |
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On Mar 19, 8:59*pm, wrote:
> Hi, > > A friend of mine is off to Sicily on Monday, and has asked me - rather > at the last minute - if I know of an whites from Sicily Well, given > that there's a positive SEA of whites made from the *Cattarratto > grape, I was a little suprised at her question. Then I noticed the key > word "decent". > > I've seen good things said of Bianca di Valguarnera, but can anyone - > Mike T perhaps, help out with one or two others. Gill much prefers > whites to reds, and I don't think she counts dessert wines amongst > them. If I went to Sicily, I would look for some of the wines from surrounding islands. For instance I have had the Malvasia delli Lipari 1987 from Carlo Hauner in the past. I believe Carlo died many years ago, but wines still are made by members of his family. I do not know anything about the quality of more recent vintages from this source. The wine I had was not very sweet and was very aromatic. A very sweet version of the wine also was available, but I have not had it. There are other producers. There are several other "island" wines from Sicily, but many are very difficult to find and some may be nearly extinct. |
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Hi Nils,
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:56:40 GMT, "Nils Gustaf Lindgren" > wrote: >In the words of I Ching, "No blame, no regret". You simply beat me to it. You're very generous >BTW, in case I haven't mentioned it already - it sure is good to have you >back. You did, and i was embarrassed and grateful - so I made no reply iirc. ========== To Lawrence and cwd, Thanks very much to you too. To everyone. I've been asked by Gill to pass on her heartfelt thanks. She's printed out your various comments and they are safely packed away in her suitcase already, so they don't get left behind in the last minute rush to finalise preparations. She's what might be called an inexperienced by fairly enthusiastic amateur who's asked for my help on a number of occasions, and - more by luck than good judgement - I've been able to help, so she asked again. This time, you were able to save me from the embarrassement of letting her down!! ATB Ian |
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On Mar 21, 8:04*am, Mike Tommasi > wrote:
> I only lived in Sicily for 1 year when I was 7, and despite my Venetian > origins it somehow affected me, I am very fond of this place, it is > probably one of the culturally densest and most varied destination I can > think of, with better Greek ruins than in modern Hellas, and tons of > Arab, Schwabian, Byzantine, medieval and Roman things to see, plus some > incredible natural wonders... > > While on the island, I recommend seeing the towns of Enna (off the > beaten path), beautiful medieval Erice, the greek temple of Segesta, the > amazing byzantine church at Monreale near Palermo, byzantine Cefalù, the > incredible roman villa at Piazza Armerina, the old town of Syracuse > (Ortigia), the high baroque towns of Noto, and Modica, the fishing town > of Aci Trezza with its breathtaking sea views, and Taormina which, > despite its jetsetty reputation is truly beautiful and remarkable, and > of course go as far up mount Etna as you can it is stunning. Palermo ca > nbe very interesting but it is a little rough, there are even inhabited > neighbourhoods that have been left untouched since WW2 bombings, that in > itself is kind of interesting... > > The islands are among the most naturally beautiful of the entire > Mediterranean, in particular Lipari, Salina, and incredible Stromboli, > do take the night boat trip and the climb to see the eruptions! > > Places to avoid: Panarea, an island paradise ruined by the obnoxious > yacht crowd and turned into a shopping town for moneyed Milanese and > Moscovite mafiosi. > > The food is excellent, you will easily make it a habit to sip on an > almond granita every morning, ice cream was invented here and you can > find some excellent gelaterie. In Noto, visit Caffé Sicilia, paradise if > you have a sweet tooth! > > -- > Mike Tommasi - Six Fours, France > email linkhttp://www.tommasi.org/mymail thanks for this. Dave is going to Sicily on his next break, I copied this to him. |
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On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 06:16:11 -0700 (PDT), DaleW >
wrote: >On Mar 21, 8:04*am, Mike Tommasi > wrote: >>... it is >> probably one of the culturally densest and most varied destination I can >> think of, with better Greek ruins than in modern Hellas, and tons of >> Arab, Schwabian, Byzantine, medieval and Roman things to see, plus some >> incredible natural wonders... >> >> While on the island, I recommend seeing the towns of Enna (off the >> beaten path), beautiful medieval Erice, the greek temple of Segesta, the >> amazing byzantine church at Monreale near Palermo, byzantine Cefalù, the >> incredible roman villa at Piazza Armerina, the old town of Syracuse >> (Ortigia), the high baroque towns of Noto, and Modica, the fishing town >> of Aci Trezza with its breathtaking sea views, and Taormina which, >> despite its jetsetty reputation is truly beautiful and remarkable, and >> of course go as far up mount Etna as you can it is stunning. Palermo ca >> nbe very interesting but it is a little rough, there are even inhabited >> neighbourhoods that have been left untouched since WW2 bombings, that in >> itself is kind of interesting... >> >> The islands are among the most naturally beautiful of the entire >> Mediterranean, in particular Lipari, Salina, and incredible Stromboli, >> do take the night boat trip and the climb to see the eruptions! >> >> >> The food is excellent, you will easily make it a habit to sip on an >> almond granita every morning, ice cream was invented here and you can >> find some excellent gelaterie. In Noto, visit Caffé Sicilia, paradise if >> you have a sweet tooth! >> >> -- >> Mike Tommasi - Six Fours, France >> email linkhttp://www.tommasi.org/mymail > >thanks for this. Dave is going to Sicily on his next break, I copied >this to him. If anything, I think Mike understates Sicily's charms. My wife's parents were born in Sicily, and we try to visit every few years. I look forward to those trips more than any other. Mike's listof attractions is pretty comprehensive (maybe over inclusive in some respects). Personally, I prefer the western part of the island. It is wilder, less traveled, incredibly beautiful, less hectic (?). But if your son has limited time he will probably be better staying in the east. That is where most of the major attractions a Etna, Agrigento, Taormina, Siracusa, Piazza Armerina). He will be told that Agrigento is a must-see, and it is worth a visit, both for the ruins and for the medieval town above the ruins. To me, though, nothing approaches Segesta as the Greek ruin not-to-miss. Segesta is a short drive to Erice, which is in turn just a short drive from Marsala. It is also near a nature preserve (Zingaro) which abuts a fairly grotesque (by Sicilian standards) beach resort at Lo Capo San Vito. Of all the things Mike suggested, I would strongly urge him to visit Enna. He will get a glimpse of life in an interior hill town that most tourists miss. As Mike also says, there really isn't much appeal in Palermo (other than the church in the suburb of Monreale). Gert out as quickly as possible. It's a great place to visit, even for a short period. No matter how long he stays, I bet he will want to return. |
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On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 06:16:11 -0700 (PDT), DaleW >
wrote: >On Mar 21, 8:04*am, Mike Tommasi > wrote: >> I only lived in Sicily for 1 year when I was 7, and despite my Venetian >> origins it somehow affected me, I am very fond of this place, it is >> probably one of the culturally densest and most varied destination I can >> think of, with better Greek ruins than in modern Hellas, and tons of >> Arab, Schwabian, Byzantine, medieval and Roman things to see, plus some >> incredible natural wonders... >> >> While on the island, I recommend seeing the towns of Enna (off the >> beaten path), beautiful medieval Erice, the greek temple of Segesta, the >> amazing byzantine church at Monreale near Palermo, byzantine Cefalù, the >> incredible roman villa at Piazza Armerina, the old town of Syracuse >> (Ortigia), the high baroque towns of Noto, and Modica, the fishing town >> of Aci Trezza with its breathtaking sea views, and Taormina which, >> despite its jetsetty reputation is truly beautiful and remarkable, and >> of course go as far up mount Etna as you can it is stunning. Palermo ca >> nbe very interesting but it is a little rough, there are even inhabited >> neighbourhoods that have been left untouched since WW2 bombings, that in >> itself is kind of interesting... >> >> The islands are among the most naturally beautiful of the entire >> Mediterranean, in particular Lipari, Salina, and incredible Stromboli, >> do take the night boat trip and the climb to see the eruptions! >> >> Places to avoid: Panarea, an island paradise ruined by the obnoxious >> yacht crowd and turned into a shopping town for moneyed Milanese and >> Moscovite mafiosi. >> >> The food is excellent, you will easily make it a habit to sip on an >> almond granita every morning, ice cream was invented here and you can >> find some excellent gelaterie. In Noto, visit Caffé Sicilia, paradise if >> you have a sweet tooth! >> >> -- >> Mike Tommasi - Six Fours, France >> email linkhttp://www.tommasi.org/mymail > >thanks for this. Dave is going to Sicily on his next break, I copied >this to him. P.S. Sicily also has the most beautiful women in the world, my wife included. |
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"Ian Hoare" > wrote in message ... > Salute Luk > On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:08:48 +0100, Luk > > wrote: > >>santiago ha scritto: >>> Ian, >>> >>> not from the grape you mention, but Benanti Pietramarina is a very >>> interesting wine made from Carricante. Loved by the Press, etc. >>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/cgq23v > > > [snip] > [snip] > You know, it's exchanges like this, that made me see red when I saw > that trollish nonsense from zara. I apologise to all forbeing so silly > as to dignifying him/her with areply. Got under your thin skin? Did you toss and turn these last few nights? What did Zara say to you to put your panties in such a bind? |
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Ian Hoare > writes:
> Salute Luk > On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:08:48 +0100, Luk > > wrote: > > >santiago ha scritto: > >> Ian, > >> > >> not from the grape you mention, but Benanti Pietramarina is a very > >> interesting wine made from Carricante. Loved by the Press, etc. > >> > >> http://tinyurl.com/cgq23v > > > [snip] > >Some good withes can be found also among dessert wines. Donnafugata > >BenRye should be easy to find. > >...and also some good Marsala are not that bad. > >Luk > > Luk, thank you so much for your reply. Thanks also VERY much to > Santiago and Mike (not necessarily in that order). I've forwarded your > replies, and I'm sure she'll find your ideas and suggestions very > useful. > > You know, it's exchanges like this, that made me see red when I saw > that trollish nonsense from zara. I apologise to all forbeing so silly > as to dignifying him/her with areply. It is probably redundant to make this warning, but just in case it isn't, one should know that zara loves sock puppets. |
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