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The myth of food production "efficiency" in the "ar" debate
"Anybody" > wrote in message
oups.com... > On May 31, 3:03 pm, Rudy Canoza > wrote: >> On May 31, 1:26 pm, "Dutch" > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Rudy Canoza" > wrote in message >> >> oups.com... >> >> > > On May 31, 11:50 am, "Dutch" > wrote: >> > >> <dh@.> wrote in >> > >> messagenews:kq2u53hktgjepn7dq0sr3edheqhk2esgs5@4ax .com... >> > >> > On 30 May 2007 12:41:47 -0700, Goo wrote: >> >> > >> >>They have no intrinsic moral meaning until and unless >> > >> >>the livestock exist. >> >> > >> > If you think you have any clue about any of this Goo, >> > >> > then attempt to explain any sort of meaning you're able >> > >> > to comprehend and appreciate regarding livestock who >> > >> > do exist. Don't even refer to your imaginary nonexistent >> > >> > "entities" Goobs, just try to tell us about the real ones. >> >> > >> Livestock who exist only need us to pay attention to their welfare. >> > >> What >> > >> benefit do you imagine your "appreciation" gives them? I'll tell >> > >> you, >> > >> Zero. >> >> > > Exactly right. That was a great comment you made about the welfare >> > > in >> > > their lives, rather than "their lives", that merits any >> > > consideration. >> >> > > ****wit is still trying to get people to think the livestock "ought" >> > > to exist, for moral reasons, and he just can't do it. He has wasted >> > > eight years of his life - but no big loss, because his time is >> > > worthless - trying to get people on board with him, and so far no one >> > > has. No one ever will. >> >> > >> It's your misguided, blundering way to deal with the accusations of >> > >> ARAs >> > >> who >> > >> say that it's cruel to raise livestock. >> >> > > Yep. ****wit is too stupid to realize it, but he is essentially >> > > acknowledging that "aras" are right. He is so ****ing stupid... >> >> > He arrogantly believes that he has discovered a clever way to turn >> > their own >> > argument back on them. >> >> I told him that back in 1999. >> >> > He thinks that it's inconsistent to wish for the >> > liberation of animals when that liberation would result in the >> > elimination >> > of the very species of animals you are liberating. He can't understand >> > that >> > it simply doesn't matter if livestock species exist or not, apart from >> > their >> > utility, nobody cares. >> >> Certainly not the "prevented" livestock themselves. >> >> > You're right, by imparting this false importance to >> > their existence he is unwittingly supporting the AR position. I >> > emphasize >> > *unwittingly* because that characterizes him to a tee. He needs to get >> > a >> > clue in order to be a half-wit. >> >> Even as a half-wit, he'd still be ****wit. > > > When are you and Douche going into your Net-cop routine Goo? > > Surely there must be some spelling felons you're just itchin' to ream > out. Why do you keep changing your nym Ronnie? Nobody cares enough to killfile you. |
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The myth of food production "efficiency" in the "ar" debate
On May 31, 4:13 pm, "Dutch" > wrote:
> "Anybody" > wrote in message > > oups.com... > > > > > > > On May 31, 3:03 pm, Rudy Canoza > wrote: > >> On May 31, 1:26 pm, "Dutch" > wrote: > > >> > "Rudy Canoza" > wrote in message > > >> oups.com... > > >> > > On May 31, 11:50 am, "Dutch" > wrote: > >> > >> <dh@.> wrote in > >> > >> messagenews:kq2u53hktgjepn7dq0sr3edheqhk2esgs5@4ax .com... > >> > >> > On 30 May 2007 12:41:47 -0700, Goo wrote: > > >> > >> >>They have no intrinsic moral meaning until and unless > >> > >> >>the livestock exist. > > >> > >> > If you think you have any clue about any of this Goo, > >> > >> > then attempt to explain any sort of meaning you're able > >> > >> > to comprehend and appreciate regarding livestock who > >> > >> > do exist. Don't even refer to your imaginary nonexistent > >> > >> > "entities" Goobs, just try to tell us about the real ones. > > >> > >> Livestock who exist only need us to pay attention to their welfare. > >> > >> What > >> > >> benefit do you imagine your "appreciation" gives them? I'll tell > >> > >> you, > >> > >> Zero. > > >> > > Exactly right. That was a great comment you made about the welfare > >> > > in > >> > > their lives, rather than "their lives", that merits any > >> > > consideration. > > >> > > ****wit is still trying to get people to think the livestock "ought" > >> > > to exist, for moral reasons, and he just can't do it. He has wasted > >> > > eight years of his life - but no big loss, because his time is > >> > > worthless - trying to get people on board with him, and so far no one > >> > > has. No one ever will. > > >> > >> It's your misguided, blundering way to deal with the accusations of > >> > >> ARAs > >> > >> who > >> > >> say that it's cruel to raise livestock. > > >> > > Yep. ****wit is too stupid to realize it, but he is essentially > >> > > acknowledging that "aras" are right. He is so ****ing stupid... > > >> > He arrogantly believes that he has discovered a clever way to turn > >> > their own > >> > argument back on them. > > >> I told him that back in 1999. > > >> > He thinks that it's inconsistent to wish for the > >> > liberation of animals when that liberation would result in the > >> > elimination > >> > of the very species of animals you are liberating. He can't understand > >> > that > >> > it simply doesn't matter if livestock species exist or not, apart from > >> > their > >> > utility, nobody cares. > > >> Certainly not the "prevented" livestock themselves. > > >> > You're right, by imparting this false importance to > >> > their existence he is unwittingly supporting the AR position. I > >> > emphasize > >> > *unwittingly* because that characterizes him to a tee. He needs to get > >> > a > >> > clue in order to be a half-wit. > > >> Even as a half-wit, he'd still be ****wit. > > > When are you and Douche going into your Net-cop routine Goo? > > > Surely there must be some spelling felons you're just itchin' to ream > > out. > > Why do you keep changing your nym Ronnie? Nobody cares enough to killfile > you. Flags of convenience Douche. - Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - |
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