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Matcha in the US?
Over the past few years, a couple of Matcha products have become
available in the US, but I haven't seen much in the way of matcha powder. I was wondering if anyone could provide reviews or opinions on matcha drinks they've encountered, or advice on where to pick some up. Jamba Juice has Matcha smoothies that I think taste a bit like green tea ice cream (i.e. pretty good) Starbucks has a Matcha frappuccino, and apparently they also sell a mix of matcha, dried milk, and sugar Tully's Coffee probably has a similar frappuccino style drink, but they also have a straight matcha green tea. When I had it, it was very sweet, so I presume it was a matcha/sugar mixture Allegro Coffee (in Whole Foods stores) has a matcha/ginger/sugar mixture that sells for $42/pound. It's completely dominated by the ginger In terms of retail, the only matcha I've encountered in stores is Republic of Tea "Double Green Matcha Tea", which is a blend of matcha powder and green tea leaves, so not a very genuine experience. Where can you purchase matcha powder in the US? What is a reasonable price for unadulterated matcha? Should there be a significant price difference between thick and thin style? Thanks, Adam |
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On Jul 11, 4:06 pm, Keflavich > wrote:
> Over the past few years, a couple of Matcha products have become > available in the US, but I haven't seen much in the way of matcha > powder. I was wondering if anyone could provide reviews or opinions > on matcha drinks they've encountered, or advice on where to pick some > up. > > Jamba Juice has Matcha smoothies that I think taste a bit like green > tea ice cream (i.e. pretty good) > Starbucks has a Matcha frappuccino, and apparently they also sell a > mix of matcha, dried milk, and sugar > Tully's Coffee probably has a similar frappuccino style drink, but > they also have a straight matcha green tea. When I had it, it was > very sweet, so I presume it was a matcha/sugar mixture > Allegro Coffee (in Whole Foods stores) has a matcha/ginger/sugar > mixture that sells for $42/pound. It's completely dominated by the > ginger > > In terms of retail, the only matcha I've encountered in stores is > Republic of Tea "Double Green Matcha Tea", which is a blend of matcha > powder and green tea leaves, so not a very genuine experience. > > Where can you purchase matcha powder in the US? What is a reasonable > price for unadulterated matcha? Should there be a significant price > difference between thick and thin style? > > Thanks, > Adam The only place I have ever seen matcha in an actual store is in fancy Japanese department stores in NYC. I get matcha from the internet: http://www.o-cha.com/green-teas/matc...red-green-tea/ www.matchasource.com www.ippodo-tea.co.jp/en There is a discernable difference between kiku mukashi, from o-cha.com and $26.95 for 30g, which is billed as suitable for thick or thin, and yugen from Matcha Source, which is $25 for 40g and thin. So, there seems to be a bit of a price difference but nothing too radical. The yugen is fine, and I drank the whole tin in about a month, but I prefer the kiku mukashi. Good luck and enjoy! Alex |
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Keflavich > wrote:
> [ . . . ] I buy Matcha powder at Mitsuwa Marketplace in Little Tokyo, Los Angeles. http://www.mitsuwa.com/ To my plebian taste, thick or thin depends on the matcha/water ratio. -- Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ! ~Semper Fi~ |
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> To my plebian taste, thick or thin depends on the matcha/water ratio.
True, but lower quality matcha prepared as thick matcha can taste horribly bad, so some vendors distinguish their varieties of matcha by what style (thick/koicha vs thin/usucha) they can reasonably be used for. Matcha labeled as thick matcha is generally of higher quality. -Brent |
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On Jul 11, 1:06 pm, Keflavich > wrote:
> Over the past few years, a couple of Matcha products have become > available in the US, but I haven't seen much in the way of matcha > powder. I was wondering if anyone could provide reviews or opinions > on matcha drinks they've encountered, or advice on where to pick some > up. > > Jamba Juice has Matcha smoothies that I think taste a bit like green > tea ice cream (i.e. pretty good) > Starbucks has a Matcha frappuccino, and apparently they also sell a > mix of matcha, dried milk, and sugar > Tully's Coffee probably has a similar frappuccino style drink, but > they also have a straight matcha green tea. When I had it, it was > very sweet, so I presume it was a matcha/sugar mixture > Allegro Coffee (in Whole Foods stores) has a matcha/ginger/sugar > mixture that sells for $42/pound. It's completely dominated by the > ginger > > In terms of retail, the only matcha I've encountered in stores is > Republic of Tea "Double Green Matcha Tea", which is a blend of matcha > powder and green tea leaves, so not a very genuine experience. > > Where can you purchase matcha powder in the US? What is a reasonable > price for unadulterated matcha? Should there be a significant price > difference between thick and thin style? > > Thanks, > Adam I do ceremony occasionally and the best matcha I've used is from these guys : http://www.matchaandmore.com/matcha.htm. Shen |
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On Jul 11, 4:23 pm, Brent > wrote:
> > To my plebian taste, thick or thin depends on the matcha/water ratio. > > True, but lower quality matcha prepared as thick matcha can taste > horribly bad, so some vendors distinguish their varieties of matcha by > what style (thick/koicha vs thin/usucha) they can reasonably be used > for. Matcha labeled as thick matcha is generally of higher quality. > > -Brent I also think that good quality thick match can make a really nice thin matcha. Cheap matcha, to me, tastes like cheap matcha and I end up using it for meringues or macaroons. Shen |
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This reminds me... do you know of a good source for food grade matcha
for baking and the like? -Brent |
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On Jul 11, 5:07 pm, Brent > wrote:
> This reminds me... do you know of a good source for food grade matcha > for baking and the like? > > -Brent I got the last bag from a Japanese vendor on eBay for $10.00 (8oz.). Unfortunately, it was longer than 60days ago, so I can't look up the vendors name. Big green mylar bag. I sometimes buy it for cooking/baking from Ranch 99 Markets. You have one in L.A., I think? Monterey Park? Actually, I've found that the cheaper matchas work better for baking since the flavour is less subtle and needs to be pronounced to hold up in a recipe. Shen |
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On Jul 11, 1:06 pm, Keflavich > wrote:
> Over the past few years, a couple of Matcha products have become > available in the US, but I haven't seen much in the way of matcha > powder. I was wondering if anyone could provide reviews or opinions > on matcha drinks they've encountered, or advice on where to pick some > up. > > Jamba Juice has Matcha smoothies that I think taste a bit like green > tea ice cream (i.e. pretty good) > Starbucks has a Matcha frappuccino, and apparently they also sell a > mix of matcha, dried milk, and sugar > Tully's Coffee probably has a similar frappuccino style drink, but > they also have a straight matcha green tea. When I had it, it was > very sweet, so I presume it was a matcha/sugar mixture > Allegro Coffee (in Whole Foods stores) has a matcha/ginger/sugar > mixture that sells for $42/pound. It's completely dominated by the > ginger > > In terms of retail, the only matcha I've encountered in stores is > Republic of Tea "Double Green Matcha Tea", which is a blend of matcha > powder and green tea leaves, so not a very genuine experience. > > Where can you purchase matcha powder in the US? What is a reasonable > price for unadulterated matcha? Should there be a significant price > difference between thick and thin style? > > Thanks, > Adam BTW, on warm days, since we're in Berkeley, I stop at the Imperial Tea Court for a cool matcha. They throw it into a blender with chilled water and it's quite refreshing with a squeeze of lemon. Shen |
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I'm actually from south bay, Los Altos/Palo Alto area. I'll take a
look in a couple of the nicer grocery stores around here, but I guess I can always fall back on good ol' eBay. I can't believe I still haven't made it up to SF for the tea houses. I'll get around to it eventually, heh. Is it true that the Chinatown ITC is better than the one near Union Square? |
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You can find it in Asian supermarkets, the more Japanese the better.
It is considered a seasonal item and will unstock quickly. My experience you have to be there when it arrives. There will be a store providing the ceremony groups the quality they require so you'll have to check with them. The last time I was in a store which was recently I saw some for $10/30g. You can also find powdered green tea from China which is much cheaper but probably flavored with jasmine. It is easy to grind your own with a light leaf like Long Jing. Jim Keflavich wrote: > Where can you purchase matcha powder in the US? What is a reasonable > price for unadulterated matcha? Should there be a significant price > difference between thick and thin style? > > Thanks, > Adam |
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Brent > wrote:
>This reminds me... do you know of a good source for food grade matcha >for baking and the like? I use the stuff from Upton's for ice cream and cookies. It's very good. I have also bought Matcha Matutotoyu from a local Japanese store, which was about the same grade and a little bit more money. ---scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On Jul 11, 6:13 pm, Brent > wrote:
> I'm actually from south bay, Los Altos/Palo Alto area. I'll take a > look in a couple of the nicer grocery stores around here, but I guess > I can always fall back on good ol' eBay. > > I can't believe I still haven't made it up to SF for the tea houses. > I'll get around to it eventually, heh. Is it true that the Chinatown > ITC is better than the one near Union Square? Actually, there's none near Union Square. One is in the remodelled Ferry Building which is quite lovely, although touristy. The newest (not a lot of tea knowlege - mostly really good food) is in Berkeley (Gourmet Ghetto) and the oldest ("first authentic Chinese tea house in America", according to Roy Fong), and my favourite, is still the Chinatown shop on Powell Street. If you come on a Sunday afternoon, you'll likely see the competitive old men who bring their canaries in fancy cages while they have tea. If you get up this way, email and we'll be happy to join you for some yum cha and tea! Shen |
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On Jul 11, 8:07 pm, Brent > wrote:
> This reminds me... do you know of a good source for food grade matcha > for baking and the like? > > -Brent Matcha Source has two grades of food grade, including some that is pretty cheap - $12 for 100g. |
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-- I was wondering if anyone could provide reviews or opinions on
matcha drinks they've encountered, or advice on where to --- pick some up. Upton - www.uptontea.com |
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On Jul 14, 9:48 pm, Jabba the **** > wrote:
> -- I was wondering if anyone could provide reviews or opinions on > matcha drinks they've encountered, or advice on where to --- pick some > up. > > Upton -www.uptontea.com I'm sure you might get a response and may be taken seriously if you changed your user name to something less offensive to the posters on this list, especially the women. Your user name to most women is just as offensive as the porno-spam that occasionally appears here. Shen |
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On Jul 15, 9:34 pm, Shen > wrote:
> On Jul 14, 9:48 pm, Jabba the **** > wrote: > > > -- I was wondering if anyone could provide reviews or opinions on > > matcha drinks they've encountered, or advice on where to --- pick some > > up. > > > Upton -www.uptontea.com > > I'm sure you might get a response and may be taken seriously if you > changed your user name to something less offensive to the posters on > this list, especially the women. > Your user name to most women is just as offensive as the porno-spam > that occasionally appears here. > Shen Boohoo. |
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> Boohoo.
What makes you think you deserve any help when you give us this kind of attitude? -Brent |
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On Jul 16, 11:24 am, Brent > wrote:
> > Boohoo. > > What makes you think you deserve any help when you give us this kind > of attitude? > > -Brent Hi, Brent, Don't bother. I've already received two profoundly obscene emails from this (she says she's a "broad") person. As Alex, on our list, so kindly warned me - don't feed the trolls. This person doesn't want tea information; just a rise from us. And she got it. Happy sipping! Shen |
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