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rec.food.sourdough FAQ Questions and Answers
Darrell,
I believe that there is a small error or typo in the FAQ on "What is the relationship between temperature and activity?" The activity level table entry for 16 deg C under C. milleri is 0.011 and I belive it should be 0.11 (just plot the data to see). I know this has been out there a while as I have an archived copy from a few years back that shows the same value. Perhaps you can edit it for your next posting. Cheers, Doc Darrell Greenwood wrote: > Archive-name: food/sourdough/faq > Posting-Frequency: 18 days > Last-modified: 2003/02/09 > URL: http://www.nyx.net/~dgreenw/sourdoughfaqs.html > > Dear Dick Adams > > Please find attached the growth rates of L. sanfranciscensis and C. > milleri as function of temperature. Growth rate is ln2/generation > time, i.e. a growth rate of 0.7 is a generation (doubling time) of > about 1 h. > > The generation times measured in laboratory media are different from > that in rye / wheat / white wheat dough, however, if the generation > time at 20 C is 1/2 of that at 30 C in my medium, the organism will > also grow 1/2 as fast at 20 C compared to 30 C in dough (we checked). > So, it's not the absolute numbers that matter, but the ratio of > growth rate to growth rate at optimum temperature. > > > > Temp L. sf I L. sf II Yeast (C. milleri) > 2 0.019 0.016 0.004 > 4 0.026 0.022 0.008 > 6 0.035 0.031 0.013 > 8 0.047 0.043 0.021 > 10 0.063 0.060 0.033 > 12 0.084 0.08 0.052 > 14 0.11 0.11 0.078 > 16 0.14 0.15 0.011 > 18 0.19 0.20 0.16 > 20 0.24 0.26 0.23 > 22 0.30 0.29 0.30 > 24 0.37 0.37 0.37 > 26 0.45 0.46 0.42 > 28 0.49 0.55 0.42 > 30 0.61 0.64 0.35 > 32 0.66 0.70 0.20 > 34 0.66 0.70 0.05 > 36 0.58 0.54 0.00 > 38 0.39 0.31 > 40 0.1 0.055 > 41 0.00 0.00 > > The curves were generated by fitting the following curve to experimental data: > > growth rate = a (x^b)(e^cx) > for lactobacilli, x is (41-temperature), all temperatures are in deg. > centigrade > for the yeast, x is (36-temperature), all temperatures are in deg. centigrade > > A, b and c were calculated as follows for the three organisms: > > L. sf I L. sf II Yeast > > a 0.1267 0.0682 0.0124 > b 1.5404 1.9782 2.9810 > c -0.1931 -0.2233 -0.3355 > > > > If I didn't make a typing error this equation should generate the > curve described above. The curve does not give the best approximation > at temperatures below 10C, though. > > Transfer of the curves from our strains to your starter may change > things a bit, but nevertheless I think that it may serve as guideline > for many sourdough starters. > > Let me know if you think it works (or not). > > - Michael > Edited by Darrell Greenwood -- darrell.web (at) telus.net |
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